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MTG Obuun, Mul Daya Ancestor Deck Tech Commander EDH - The Internet Is Wrong
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- čas přidán 17. 10. 2020
- The Legendary Creature of Obuun, Mul Daya Ancestor, can make for a fun #MTG #Commander but don't get trapped into thinking that this is a landfall deck. Watch the video and then checkout the full #EDH decklist:
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FINALLY someone calls out Seer's Sundial.
Yeah, the first thing I did, even as a newer EDH player, was taking the card out of the deck. It's honestly sad how bad it is.
On these dire times, your voice and advice is a blessing, dear baron.
Kind of weird the fallback for the preconstructed fresh out of the box was elemental late game and not just boon elves to begin with. First time I saw the deck I scratched my head at how poorly efficient the synergies were. Glad to see there's still people who have common sense and know how to build decks! Cheers mate!
Great decktech, Baron. Now I shall have more respect for this elf spirit legend. Elvish landfall, here we go.
As good as this strategy sounds...I’m still sticking with Elemental/Landfall tribal :) First time watching this channel. Cool video.
I totally agree with you that anthems are more powerful in Obuun than simply a landfall theme, the only difference that I use is that I try to use landfall token generators like scute swarm, Avenger of zendikar, Phylath, Omnath and felidar Retreat in order to have a board pressence. Great deck as always! Cheers!
My favorite thing about Obuun are it's colors. Naya is the perfect combo for this kind of deck. There are some suggestions I'd like to make because there of my favorite elves fit right into these colors. It's Mirror Entity, Chameleon Colossus, and Taurean Mauler. Changelings!
The deck is pretty stacked already so it might be tough to find space for them but I think they would be fun includes, Mirror Entity especially. Being able to pay a relatively small amount of mana to boost your entire team of Elves base power and toughness to stack your anthems and counters on top of, plus turning your awakened lands onto elves themselves so they can pick up those anthems as well seems pretty strong to me. The other two serve to be really strong beaters. The Colossus can pump itself to really high numbers (even higher with mirari's wake) and even has protection from black; the Mauler is a great spot for +1/+1 counters and maybe a bit of early bait for whatever removal our opponents could have.
A final suggestion would be The Ozolith. Being able to save your counters and redistribute them later seems pretty strong, but maybe not enough in a deck more focused on anthems.
That's some outside of the box thinking. I loved the concept! Looks pretty powerful
BRO THANK YOU.
Finally a CZcams video saying this is not a LANDFALL commander.
That was a breathe of fresh air.
I've built Obuun up as an absolute beast of a Landfall deck. It has massive creature token generation with Omnath, Baloths and several others. But I actually love how quickly i am able to build Obuun's counters up and swing with a massive Trampler every turn. Thats because i have built up the mana base to get more and more landfall triggers every turn. Its not a tricky deck or fancy, but it is effective. Lands matter!
*Baron calls out seers sundial crappiness*
*My seer sundial investment value drops dramatically*
There are so many Boardwipes that hit nonland permanents. Also possibilities to make my lands creatures and also make my creatures lands. That's how I play Obuun and it's getting better and better (still working on the deck) .
This Elf tribal idea seems very interesting... Obuun was the first deck I bought, and although out of the box it's very fun, even in casual games it's a lackluster deck. The fact that it is so easily removable doesn't help. The other idea I had of building him was in a kind of voltron deck, but hitting with the lands, but I think it would end up being an expensive deck in CMC terms. This Elf tribal makes his combat ability matter and makes his landfall ability still have a purpose. I might test it someday.
I like making land tokens and populating them. As well as flickering them for extra landfall, and using the moth to have them come back after you sac them
700-900$ deck! I’ll stick with the 15$ Precon and put 20$ in it thanks.
Excellent take on this commander Baron!
Dont know if it would really fit, but i think Ashaya, Soul of the wild could be a nice card to include as it would let you trigger Obuun with creatures, will be a big threat itself and protects your board from some removal spells like cyclonic rift.
Not only that, it protects your board from anything that specifies nonland permanents like Hour of Revelation.
That's a good point. 👍👍
Thanks for this. I, like you, realized that an elf strategy was probably the best way to take Obuun, but I didn't think of anthems; and so my builds kept falling flat. This should fix things, quite nicely.
Beautiful take on this deck, might have to make a 2nd version of your style just to see how it pilots but I love this concept.
Never thought of Naya Elf Anthems for Obuun. Sounds super fun! My Obuun deck is more focused on turning my lands into creatures and, thanks to Ashaya, turning my creatures into lands and abusing some interactions that were never really intended.
I'm considering adding Ashaya into this deck as well.
Eldrazi Displacer would be cool card for that style of deck in my opinion
VERY INSIGHTFUL WILL BE COMING BACK
I can't believe you didn't mention Warlord Rhada. Each elf we control attacking gives us 1 mana, that in turn we can use to play more elves!
Well I definitely agree with you that it is not a landfall deck. But in terms of an elf creature land deck yeah maybe that's a way to go
I see this working but at a significantly higher cost than landfall.
Hey I like your video and I'll print your list for a test play.
However I went all the landfall way and it works really well. I added some key equipment like the sunforger (adds protection too) then some indestructible lands and things like needle spires and and awakening of vitu gazi which puts 9 counters on a land. (its a valid strategy to get the landfall after combat and put counters on a land which is much harder to remove than obuun himself and can attack right after board wipes when you play obuun).
Then there is moraug and other extra combat rounds. Colossification is another nice finisher... It will tap obuun but the land can attack with 23/23 + counters.
And ofc scute swarm and felidar retreat and all other fun landfall things are there..
My mind is blown! What a exquisite way of building Obuun, I still don't think he is a powerhouse of a commander but who cares? That deck looks very interesting
I didn't realize that Obuun was an elf! But as far as the deck goes I think I would consider Skyshroud Elf instead of Birds of Paradise just to keep with the tribal theme. I realize that he's one more mana to cast, but in the long run I don't think that it matters that much
Plus skyshroud gives you color fixing if you need more than 1 red or white. I've run a green/white deck with no white Mana with him.
Indestructible lands, something to target with his living land ability, a removal spell sucks even more when they kill your man land.
Your obuun and mine lean in a similar direction. Thanks for all the elven recommendations, time to compile another list
Loved it! Super stoked to see another video.
Cheers!
That was a real treat to watch. Very nice!
Response/Resurgence good budget option with options. Blink/ Inkmoth nexus are great cheap mana-cost evasive "man" lands. Greater Good is a sac outlet that lets you turn lands into card draw.
Baron! Baron! With all the sites filled with complaints, we need your wisdom!
My build involves equipment Voltron and Dragon Throne of Tarikir as its "anthem" effect.
I’ve built this with a ton of landfall things and it sometimes does good and is relatively fun but this looks better to me I hate that I didn’t think of it. Welp I guess it’s time for bulk and beer night.
Oh man. I should have watched this months ago. This makes soooooo much more sense! Thank you, this requires a Like and Subscribe.
Dear Baron, I must admit as a simple commoner I initially bought this deck and started to make a +1/+1 synergies deck altough upon finding this video I think I will use it to convert my old gruul elves to something more interesting
This called to attention for me that despite landfall being my second favorite playstyle, the commander has been my least favorite part of the deck
With the advent of Chishiro and modified Gruul, I'm considering combining the decks. Even though Obuun will only put one counter on something per trigger, that seems to be all it needs with the modified strategy.
My Obuun deck was vehicles and hate bears. Make lands drive cars. Stupid fun.
I was really thinking you were going to go another direction. Elves are powerful. Have you considered going greater good and focusing on getting a high powered elemental and either sacing to greater good, momentous fall, or drawing cards based on power? Then playing more of a good stuff deck? Or a hybrid of elves and this type of approach?
I like cards such as greater good and momentous fall quite a bit but I would rather use those in a golgari deck.
Please correct me if I am wrong. If you were to put Omnath, Locus of rage into the Obuun deck without changing anything, the plains and other spells that use plains would be OK to use because Omnath's colorless mana would allow for it? I'm having trouble with understanding what you can use.
Great elf tribal deck it would of been nice if the precon was closer to this good. You could also build a deck that's all lands
I agree on the part about the anthems, but I'm not entirely sold on the elf tribal part.
Nice take, indeed.
I do want to go elf tribal, but I have a lot of other cards that let me animate lands and just go to town with them that synergies well with Obuun.
Seers sundial really only gives you that momentum if u need it in the moment but do rarely do actually use the payout for it on this deck
The deck should always be combo landfall and +1 counter shenanigans
It's an elf worker-co-op
Aristocards@ how would u build meren clan of nel toth? Your decks are always so interesting and well thought out
Man, wheres your "Internet is wrong" video for Sygg, the River Cutthroat?
My first deck build im excited
Ok I have a question. I've watched multiple videos cause my friends and I were debating something. Replacing sporemound in the deck with Spike Tiller. Is that a yay or nay
Spike Tiller seems really expensive in CMC for the utility it gives. There are better uses for the mana at that cost.
I'm totally trying this in Tabletop Simulator ASAP
colossification is fun in obuun
Out of odd curiosity, how effective would Rhys the Redeemed be in this, and if he was to go in what should he replace?
Dark steel citadel only attack with it problem solved
Would not Ashaya allow the elves to affect Obuun's Landfall ability as you cast them?
Not as you cast them, but as they enter the battlefield. Here's the ruling: "You can’t play creature cards as lands; you’ll still have to cast them as spells, and they’ll enter the battlefield as lands (in addition to their other types)."
@@Aristocards Very cool ;P
Genius!
Lanowar Scout might be a splendid Idea because it can suprise opponents with infinit combat steps. Thanks to Moraug and Mina and Denn in play this meak card will allow the deck to get additional combat steps for RG. And as far as I've seen the deck already included ways to provide RG with each combat step.
What cards that where to taken out
What's your opinion on having quartz wood crusher in the deck? There isn't much trample synergy but I like the fact you can create a creature x power just by attacking creatures with trample
I'm not sure I could find a place for it because elves are already so good at creating elf tokens.
@@Aristocards yeah your build sounds solid. I was going more Voltron build with him, but the elf build is a lot more versatile
someone know what is the card in the background?
You can also just go full - on voltron and make big ass land creatures just by pumping ur commander XD
It's too many eggs in one basket - if you spend a lot of resources on a single creature and it dies to removal, now you have nothing to fall back on.
@@Aristocards tbh i think this commander is a go wide kind of commander anyhow. BUT if i were to make it a voltronish commander. I would use anthem effects to pump all my creatures and thus lands. Voltron is kind of vulnerable to that in general.
I like these ideas
I'm not sure on this one Baron... I think smashing your opponents with land critters and plusing off of +1/+1 counters maybe better.
I respect your perspective but +1 counters are done infinitely better by Golgari or Simic commanders. He also only gets to make one creature per turn and that does not persist beyond the end of the turn. You are welcome to your opinion, but I respectfully disagree. Thank you for watching.
@@Aristocards
I appreciate the input. Must be something I'm not seeing. I'll give both versions a try and go from there. Stellar video as always sir.
@@Aristocards I agree as I have an Ezuri, Claw of progress deck, and dump way more +1/+1 counters than any amount of landfall triggers could hope to compete with. I have it also playing subtheme of Elf tribal, so my list has many of the same cards as this deck tech. Simic and Golgari do far more work in this regard than a naya deck when it comes to +1/+1 counters. There isn't enough value in focusing purely on +1/+1 counters and landfall to justify the investment of time and resources with Obuun.(He could fit into a landfall deck of another commander's 99 better than helming his own.) I'd build an Obuun elf tribal version over a landfall/counter version if I didn't already do Elf Tribal in my arsenal.
Best on 1.5 x ?!
Where you been? All ok? Any new videos?
The social obligations of the aristocracy are demanding but take heart, The Baron shall return...
There are no words that could possibly warm the heart more than those ... long live the Baron!!
Animate an Inkmoth Nexus and win via poison.
Easy.
If actually pulling this off is easy for you, your playgroup isn't playing enough instant speed removal.
you know for anthem like effects, arent you forgetting crusade?
I am on the fence about Cathars crusade considering that you need 5 mana for it. However, if you try it out and it works for you, please let me know.
I don't think the deck would have enough white creatures to get enough advantage out of Crusade or Honor of the Pure.
@@waltercardcollector I feel like there's quite alot of white creatures tbh, but aristocards suggestion of cathars' crusade looks quite promising aswell, since its permanent buffing instead of anthem. 5 mana in commander isn't THAT much of a stretch and since it was what aristocards first thought he'd already had it on his mind.
@@unraveki Oh yeah Cathars' Crusade would be good considering the number of creature ETBs
This commander is busted if you have the land throning grazier
the deck costs 900 hundred fucking dollars
This is awesome! Shame the deck costs a grand to get lmao
At least I didn't include Gaea's Cradle in the decklist 😁
@@Aristocards True
but with Elves as his focus we just get another underwhelming commander again. He is just lacking something special (untap, defense or activated ability). Just because you didn't compare him to other lords doesn't make him any more viable sadly.
I thought +1/+1 could be' cool As well
Think
Golgari and Simic colors are vastly superior for +1/+1 counter decks
@@Aristocards i saw a list focusing only on landcreature not landfall
Too bad locus of creation is banned.
Seers sundial is trash