The Hottest Bikes & Tech We Found At the Tour De France 2024!
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
- Le Tour de France 2024 is finally upon us!
Dan and Ollie fly out to sunny Florence to check out some of the cool tech that is going to be used by the pro cycling teams!
00:00 New tech at the 2024 Tour de France
00:25 Team Lotto Destiny: Orbea
01:55 Team Uno-X Mobility: Dare
03:18 Team Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale: Van Rysel
04:29 Team INEOS Grenadiers: Pinarello
06:44 Team Jayco Alula: Giant
07:40 Team Visma Lease a Bike: Bike Control Room
09:34 Team Red Bull - Bora - hansgrohe: Specialized
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What do you think of Visma' Lease a Bike's control room? Let us know in the comments below! 💬
Following the F1 telemetry approach.
Scary and fascinating. We will see if it will give any advantages for the team. I can see that the teams will learn to use this better the coming years. And I will become standard. After all. They have lots of data now a days that takes some focus to make sense out of.
With this. They can perhaps collect even more data with more sensors from the bikes. Don’t know what it would be. But. It’s possible.
Uci going after them 😂
Isn't transmitting metrics like power and HR to anyone but the rider themselves explicitly banned?
@@gcntech it’s gonna get banned !!!! If they are thinking of banning radios then it obsolete already
"Share it with your friends.... if you've got any." I feel personally attacked. 😂😂
Lol
UCI: "We're like to ban radios to get rid of team orders."
Visma: "We'd like to spend a lot of money."
I can see every team who can afford it, having one of those vans next year...unless they ban them.
I'm just amazed it took so long to do one. It's a F1 pit wall on wheels. The military have been using mobile comms units like these for yonks, so it only makes sense for a race team to do it. Better than trying to cram all the tech into a Skoda estate for the DS to analyse whilst being driven by a maniac on twisty mountain roads.😂
watching Olly properly geek out .. priceless .. lol
Good to see Dan at the TdF for GCN
Let’s hope the team car doesn’t ride over any of the peloton…
Great that Jumbo are going back to basics & racing on feel…….how refreshing.
The race organisers should be collecting that data that Visma Lease a Bike are and making it available online realtime.
They're not collecting anything. That would be explicitly illegal according to the UCI rulebook. Pretty big miss by gcn as that fact has been very prominent in the media because of it.
The award for the best paintjob goes to Lloyd's shoes. Absolutely love them 😂
Love the paint job on those Ineos bikes, looks stunning.
the Ineos team vehicle is terrifying from the point of view of a vulnerable road user. Plus, it would be tricky to get bikes off the roof in the heat of the moment.
Giant orange wank tank
Totally agree but since they produce the car themselves, its also clear they are gonna use it. Dont think they had a choice
Finally different front and rear tires, the next thing the roadies learn from MTB. The Red Bull bikes look great but they could be even better with white bar tape.
I agree. The most important qualities for front and rear tires are rather different, even for a bike commuter. E.g. grip matters more on the front tire while the rear tire has a bigger effect on comfort.
Yes, finally. I’ve had so many problems for the last forty years or so with identical front/rear tires. Including mtb.
In 2001, Continental introduced a set of differentiated road tires for front and rear called the Attack and Force, respectively. I used them for about ten years until they were phased out and wider tyres than their 22 and 24 mm became a thing. So that concept is all but new.
@@einundsiebenziger5488 Did they have different rubber compound?
@@chrisridesbicycles As far as I remember they used two different compounds on both tyres, the middle section with the softer one was wider in the rear tyre, and they had distinctively different profiles.
Regarding the "dare" bike: nothing Simplon didn't do with its Pride II 3-4 years ago.
3:44 Continental 'Aero 111' 😉
Looks like Ineos Grenadiers are getting ready for when team cars will be allowed in gravel races...
Awesome video GCN,the Spezialized Bora Hansgrohe Red Bull is one the best looking bikes there,really clean looking.💯👌🏻✌🏻🚴♂️
Comment to the Ineos Grenadier question: Personally I really like the use of electric cars in the races. I can't recall if any team actually uses one, but at least the race marshalls do and that's only a good thing in my opinion as the riders going full gas up climbs don't have to unnecesarily breathe the gases coming out of ICE cars. Despite even the Grenadier surely complies with Euro 6c or whatever, it's still far from the EV cleanliness, which especially in these situations would be in my opinion very beneficial.
EF just debuted a pink Cadillac lyriq. Fully electric
The convoy is behind the riders anyway. Electric drivertrains are vastly more convenient for this use case though.
@@invisiblescout6335 Generally yes, but if there's big enough time gap, they go around the peloton to follow the group with their riders. That overtaking takes a few secs and at that time the ICE cars rev higher (I guess they are all equipped with automatic transmission nowadays, so they downshift when they sense the need for higer acceleration) and hence produce even more gasses than usual whilst passing it. And then while they are driving behind a group, I guess the peloton or the next group could still be breathing intoxicated air by the car a minute ahead of them. Again, I know modern ICE cars with all the required particular filters are very clean and this would be marginal gains at best, but it's 2024 and every bigger car brand has some EV in their range, so why don't go that one extra step, especially when it's for the riders' health and doesn't have any other drawbacks?
Love seeing all the new tech! Ollie’s disappointed face at oiled chains is priceless
Campenaerts would have that note haha. What a guy.
The Ineos Grenadier team car is actually an Ineos Grenadier. Anyone who has about 70K can but one. Pretty sure you won’t see it on the roads during the race.
... can buy* one. Interesting how you can make people spend that money on the copy of a G-class Mercedes with a BMW engine.
Budget friendly car 😉👌
Good to see Lloydy back on a GCN vid
Thanks for providing chapters so I could skip the Ineos section
I think the new Red Bull colors are fantastic. Looking really nice. Definitely added a bit of pop and i think Red Bull will be a good partner into the future.
The Team Decathalon Van Rysel bikes with the new front tires have ramps and walls that will aid the braking performance. Looks like they took a lesson from MTB tread patterns.
Tread patterns do literally nothing for grip on the road. This has been explicitly confirmed by multiple tyre manufacturers. For example, the only reason contis initially had treads is becase tyres with treads sell better (according to conti themselves). Accidentally their tread pattern proved to have an aerodynamic advantage, so they design their current tyres with that in mind.
The new swiss side/conti collaboration tyre was developed explicitly for aero performance and has been in the wild for a while now, initially used in triathlons.
Ollie has blessed Geraint with his holy touch. G will now reclaim GC
Tentatively celebrating the return of color and gloss finishes, I've become bored with satin/matte and bland on black! Also glad to see a few modular cockpits, as separate bar/stem combos are friendlier to mere mortals like me. Great coverage, thanks for being there, I do wish I could join you!😁
Ugh. Yes, all matte, all black bicycles (and vehicles for that matter) were boring to me about three minutes after seeing one for the first time. All I can think when I see a "matte" finish of any kind these days is "Nice primer-mobile, bro."
Aero tires, I knew this day would come 😂
that control room is a game changer.....''just like a special operation's command center...nice one
That Ineos Grenadier 4x4 will be ideal for the 'snow-stage' in this years tdf!!!
Finally someone on GCN whose mechanic skills are comparable to mine!
Love the AG2R bikes with those front tyres. They appear to to be there to trip the boundary layer air as it flows around the tyre. Clever!
Landrover team car - if it's anything like the ones I had after the m300 engine , they'll keep breaking down.
That Grenadier car is like one of those new Electric cars from China whose design is a collection of copies from other car companies. It looks like a Landrover and Mercedes G-Class mixed into one and uses a BMW engine.
The Ineos Grenadier is more than just a funky team car. The team is actually named after it.
fun video!
Jumbo Visma's Techy Van is Awesome :) Nice Video :)
Everybody : Looking at the DARE head tube
Me : Feeling hurt because Lloyd is creasing his Jordans
green bora bikes are the prettiest for sure
Red bull livery looks ace 👍 I’d have one definitely but probably break under my weight 😂
Control van is awesome! Want to know about their networking equipment.
Control room makes team faster, I think. And also Visma get new ceramic bearings made in Japan. I'm interested in the team results.
Important correction, the Visma control car doesn't get data from the rider or his bike. Sending power, heart rate, location, ... during the race is not allowed.
They say the biggest advantage is the stable connection and less chaos than in the team car.
I liked the new bira bike but the green color was more unique
I love the green color
I literally have a similar version of that 3D printed aero bike com mount for my 1040, on my EXS bar.
Not sure about its strength, but it looks fast, which is all that matters tbh 😂
Well, it was a really nice team car 👍
Tom looks like he's been cast in a reboot of This is England with that barnet.
Visma using F1 tech., information is power!
Unless you can enhance a rider's power by radio signal like F1 did with its cars (before it was banned), that information is useless. And even if it was possible, it'd be considered doping. That data center is a mere marketing gimmick.
Aint no f1 tech here
That Pinarello is ❤🔥
Does the emoji stand for heart breaking? These things indeed give you a heart attack as ugly as they are😉.
The Ineos Grenadier team car is the Grenadier model by the company Ineos.
RedBull livery is a 👍 for me
Tech question... on tubeless... you showed the sticker with the date on it... so how often do amateurs vs pros change their sealant?
Amateur here, I change sealant about once a year. Sometimes. Kind of.
Chains, when Ollie calls them Oily!
The grenadier being used by the grenadiers is awesome
It is an almost 1:1 copy of a G-class Mercedes with a BMW engine and low-tech chassis.
The team car is a Ineos Grenadier - because it is actually a car brand.
redbull sl 8 🤩
👏👏👍👍
That continental tyre on the front of the van rysel bike blantantly says "Aero" on it.... 3:47
Ollie is the best
that ineos team car is a SUV called INEOS Grenadiers, an Luxury-overland SUV designed by INEOS the company. It is a bit more off-roady than a Land Rover, and Throttle House did a fantastic reveiew on it.
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@@invisiblescout6335 heh
@@invisiblescout6335 lmao i just felt excited that ineos was literally using a car made by their main sponsor that’s literally called their team name
Please show us the new 2024 prototype motor Visma are using? Apparently undetectable by x Ray. Awesome.
The tyres are the Continental Aero 111. We should know about them soon I assume.
Seeing Olly lift that water bottle has really changed my opinion on this channel
3:56 my guess would be that if that thread is there for aero then it would likely be there to make sure the air doesn't stick too much to the tire and wheel because sometimes it is better to keep the air separated from the object if there is some part behind that object that will cause alot of turbulent airflow and in this case it could be the legs or the frame.
Literally everything you just wrote about aero is wrong
@@invisiblescout6335 Explain how he’s wrong? Because his explanation, while being long winded, is exactly why even the front riders benefit from having a peloton behind them
@@KelvinSuddith because when there is someone in front of you they're the ones absorbing the drag for you, here there is no one else absorbing anything for you.
He's basing what he says on incomplete knowledge. Disturbing airflow in front of an object can be beneficial, if that object has a very un-aerodynamic shape, legs being the perfect example. However the legs are so far out of plane with the tyre and wheel it's basically impossible for any of that wake to flow over the legs.
Furthermore if an object does have a streamlined shape, like for example a wheel rim or a frame downtube you want the exact opposite, you want the airflow to be as clean as possible. That is because a streamlined shape is made to have the air flow over it as smoothly as possible, the more disturbed that flow is before hitting the object, the less impact the shape will have on controlling the airflow.
To disturb flow you need to transfer energy from you to the air. The more you disturb it, the more energy you've had to use. If you've used energy to disturb the flow in front of an object, yes there is going to be less drag on that object, but have you acheived a net reduction in drag? Not neccessarily. If the object is of a good, streamlined shape, the answer is probably no.
Wow, that VLB control room is cool! Can't help to think how such an investment takes away from smaller teams to be competitive? What are your thoughts?
To me it, the Orbea bikes look like they are “ Infinity LAB”
I’ve never seen a tire with tread like the Conti proto; that’s fascinating. There’s a braking and cornering edges deeper than we usually see on road tires. And aero gains seem implicate; vortex generators?
Tread patterns have no positive effect on road tyre grip, all they do is make it easier to sell. And yes the purpose of the swiss side conti tyre tread is purely aerodynamics
The best car this year is the pink Cadillac by EF ♥️
Aero optimised tyres for lower speeds i.e. for pros in the mountains or for normal people when out riding
Your channel covers such a wide range of topics. There's something for everyone!
GCN set free 😊
Wonder if there choosing oil instead of wax because it’s easier to apply over the mile’s accumulated.
Sooo Ritchie Porte couldn't a camper van at Giro a fair few years ago BUT Jumbo cam have this TILL whenever UCI decide against it 🙄 red bull bike is mint 👌🏼
The aero tyre have inverted dimples - like a golf ball. To break up the stationary air..
what brake pads did you spoted, bedside shimano, sram?
I prefer the new Bora paint scheme.
I think we need a non-technical analysis of the kits colours for the TDF
are you sure these orbeas are called oolab? it looked like inifinity lab to me
That Ineos Grenadier station wagon is built by the company that runs the Grenadiers Cycling Team, OTOH what's with the snorkel air intake but no front-mounted winch??
I don't think that many teams are using a waxed chain setup on their road bikes because of the amount of pressure washing being done to clean the bikes after each stage, as well as the fact that they have a limitless supply of new chains at their disposal, so chain longevity is not a big concern. I think that it's a different case with some of the TT bikes, with Victor Campenaerts bike being a perfect example.
Yep, at most they use squirt wax lube. Proper immersive waxing is just way too labour intensive for this scale
The Red bull scheme is a thing of beauty
That tire is a Continental Aero 111
I hope their funky team car won't damage bikes in tunnels because of the height
Thanks Dr O , Danimal , and crew.....can Jumbo monitor Glucose levels as well ? Be safe , eh ??
I was under the impression that all products had to be available to the general public ( if you can afford it)
I didn't know bikes had heart rates 😂
Will you guys be in Nice for the finale? Would love to say hello if I see you.
8:00 Huston, we have a problem...
Missed the new Van Rysel aero bike...
the Visma Lease-A-Bike van is very interesting. But more interesting would be: how exactly is the team transmitting all the data from the cyclists? Presumably some sort of cell phone tech: I presume the riders aren't all carrying phones? If not cell phone tech then they'd have to be packing more meaty transmitters, which means big batteries. Is the info coming from the regular transponders all the Tour cyclists carry? Enquiring minds...
They aren't transmitting anything. It's against the uci rules for that data to be available to anyone but the rider themself. Race organiser/brodcast being a special case.
Instead of fancy team cars, pay the domestiques, mechanics, and soigneurs more.
Don't worry, the personell in these teams does receive a pretty handsome salary. And since the maker of this car is the co-sponsor it would not make sense to use a different car. Imagine a team bearing Ford in its name but driving VWs.
Love the surprise on Olly's face when discovering some of the bike teams do not wax their chains at the TDF?.....well no because it's a right pain in the ass and a complete faff.
I need a Red Bull bike
Lease-a-bike, have/are installed hubs/boosters in Pyrenees, in poor signal areas. Don't know about Alps. Best wishes
Continental 'Aero 111' Tyres. Front wheel tyre only. Seems to be working off the golfball dimple principle?
Not really but I see where you are coming from. The golf ball has, er, dimples, whereas these are more like NACA ducts, without them being ducts in shape or form. If they work in conjunction with the spokes then I would be seriously impressed. If they are there just to psyche out the opposition, then I would be even more impressed. They could be red herring pattern, just to get the rivals dedicating themselves to something that isn't there, whilst delivering a perfectly good placebo for the team.
@@pdsnpsnldlqnop3330you're reading way too deep into this. Has nothing to do with spokes and even less with any mind games.
It's designed to trip the air yes, but for the purpose of keeping it attached to the tyre and rim, as testing shows that often you get flow detachment on the tyre, before the air even reaches the rim.
The pattern is designed by swiss side, who have long been proponents of the philosophy that tyres are absolutely crucial to aero performance
My main question. 28mm vs 30mm what’s the majority of peloton using?
28 mm.
More Dan on cam pls
I am just really surprised that none of the teams does not have Hypoxic bus. Japanese pod-style hotel but on the bus. I am guessing that entire bus could accommodate 12 to 16 pods at least. That would eliminate need not only for altitude camp but for hypoxic hotel. How come nobody has one yet beats me
UCI should add some rules around the proportions of team support vehicles. That Ineos behemoth is admittedly going to be awesome for drafting behind but not helping the carbon footprint of pro cycling. Too many reasons why I think that is an inappropriate team car. I’m hoping it’s a marketing gimmick and a ‘normal’ car will actually be used during races.
Ineos only builds the Grenadier and only a few variations of their one car
An industry that encourages everyone to dispose of perfectly good bikes, tyres, components, clothing....... and you're bothered about the carbon footprint of a vehicle?
@@ooojamaflip Yes, and for good reasons. You know it's possible to be bothered by both, right?
I ride nineties mtb's, converted to a mor gravel-ish setup. I use used parts whenever possible, I mostly only buy new cassettes and chains etc.
This car is horrible and shouldn't even be allowed on the market in this day and age.
Do we know what the carbon footprint is as a percentage of world carbon footprint?
@@JamesKnightSmith the percentage is superfluous if anything above zero is bad
Get authorization from the author and put the "do not wash chain " note on a t-shirt. Tha would be awesome
Help olly ! A video previewed with you but I can not find it ! It started with you in front of team buses saying how fancy they were and the bikes ! I thought I would watch it later but it didn’t save so It’s driving me mad looking for it ! Give me a clue or link to it please 🙏 by they way great work man ❤
6:33 How many gears does this team car have?