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Ah, one more thing: observing Remco - more precisely his attitude - and I'm very pleased. The young gun, who was overly cocky at times in the past 24 months, seems to be a lot more grounded. This could be the right recipe for bigger successes - not at this year's TdF, but later.
Love him, he is funny and super cocky. And absurdly strong
Remco is learning. Hi did not follow Pog and VINI right away. He waited for oxytocin come back to the muscles and then he started working. I am more afraid what happened to Primos?
Pogi's bottle attack was great. Pogi's second attack with Jonas gripping the wheel was even better. When Remco and Carapaz came in with them at the line it just kept getting better.
We're in for a great July 🦋
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Tadej's 'water bottle attack' was like the 'ol hold your hand out as if to shake hands then pull it away to brush your hair back 😉
Nothing like Tadej and Jonas in the same frame at the Tour.
Very well riding by Visma-LAB: 1) everybody did his part today and saved energy when the job was done. 2) They worked as a team (inspired by the book Legacy by James Kesrr) 3) they were in front not to get the group in the front back, but to have the distance 4) both times they were in position at the start of the hard climb, knowing it was going to be small.
Finally: Impressive how Vingegaard is riding, considering the crash earlier this year.
JV has done an amazing job to get back so quickly. Good to see Egan making the top ten also.
That acceleration by pogi was insane but Jonas covered the move faster than previous years like he’s more fast twitch now 😯
Agree Vingegaard's response was impressive. Also, you can train for distance and watts - much harder to train for explosions. And Pogi left everyone else behind in the dust as he did in the Giro.
It was quite explosive form Pogi and I was impressed with Jonas’ response. I was thinking at the time it speaks to how fresh he was at the moment, and that he definitely was feeling good!
I can finally go to bed now! Thanks a lot Chris and Garret! Greetings from 🇧🇷
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So do I!
Greetings from Brazil also!!! 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
The doctor who operated Jonas might have modified his lungs' capacity or added him a third set of lungs😂
That's what I was thinking!
Does anybody know his name? I could use some new ones.
@@jonathansnow1886 😂😂
@@jonathansnow1886 Michael Furrari.
@@tonycrabtree3416😂
Thankfully, this tour could be a masterpiece battle once more
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Watching the tour is fun, but watching Chris is more fun 💜
We have a race on our hands! 👏👏👏
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Chris, really excellent job figuring out how Carapaz and Remco came out of the chasing pack. Everybody else is like “somehow Remco and Carapaz is in between the groups” and you are the only one that looked through this frame by frame and figured out that Remco and Carapaz came out at the top of the climb. This is why we come to you for race analysis. You are the only one that does the work to figure out these details.
And the only one to spot and comment on Roglic 👍
Lemme tell you, when Tadej waved at Vinny like “naw, go on” when he was up front, I actually laughed out loud… 😂🍻
Thanks team Horner, for making the TdF even better than it already is! 🦋👊
😊The only person I want to see after the race!!! Thank you boss🎉🎉🎉
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Same
My man Victor Campenaerts! I always think of Chris when I see this Lotto Truck at the front of the pack! 🙂
TDF has got to do better camera coverage of the GC contenders. Remco and Primoz were ignored (lost) during the Cote.
Jonas only used one lung yesterday, the bad one. Just wait till he starts using both in week 3.
Chris , Mea Culpa on my part! Never thought Jonas could come back from the crash. So happy to have a race on our hands.
Fantastic stage! Edge of your seat 😎
Good stuff 🔥👊🦋🇫🇷
Woop! 🎉🎉🎉
p.s. name issues today? 😉😉😉 when we do it we call it namelexia 🤓 Thanks for covering Roglic's position because NBC never did!😢
Hehehe. Even my old teammate I mixed up with Powless. Poor Mike suffered over the climb and attacked the break only for me to get his name wrong. At least Garrett caught it and fixed it. 😂🦋👊🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋.
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Thank you for 'namelexia'-term. I really that medical term in many situations ;)
The technical term is nominal dysphasia 😉
I watched the whole race and I must say you did it justice Chris. I am most impressed with the amount of time you allotted to each event within the race, just the right amount of detail and energy.
Most impressed by Jonas and Remco as well. They are looking to atleast follow Tadej, no matter what! Carapaz got a free ride down the descend and flat I believe 😂
That's carapaz for you. Faking it til the line is in sight. The guy never works for anyone. That's how he podiumed when jonas had his breakout year and got 2nd
Someone was REAAAAAALLYY playing Possum
Now I can go to sleep knowing I’m updated. See you tomorrow!
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The racing today was fantastic and so was your round-up Chris. What a show you all put on. Wow!!! This race has the makings of being a classic. Now lets see if Mark can make history today. Ohhh boy l truly hope so.....🚴🚴🚴🚴🚴
Game on. When JV got out of the saddle behind TP on the climb I thought he’s going to drop the wheel but JV did a great effort. This is going to be a great battle.
Vive la France !
Happy to see some satisfaction to our hosts' expectations, and a new name to follow.
Thanks, jeune homme! (Chris) and Garrett 🎬📽🎞
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I enjoyed both stage 1 and 2 on TV. It is great to enjoy them again through your commentary pointing out things I just don't look for or see. The stills with the position of the of the GC and their support team really helps me understand more of the team aspect of TDF. I am now "Subscribed" be checking here everyday. Thank you.
Thank you, Chris and Garret!
Looked like Pog didn’t want the yellow yet and kinda took it by surprise. He seemed unsure in the ceremony didn’t he?
When you have the yellow jersey, it's also a huge target marked in yellow for you. In a 4 horse race like this, and the quality of the field, it may not be the wisest to get yellow so early in the race. It's is a game of fox and hounds. Tadej may not want to be the "fox" so early in the Tour.
Yes, he said that in a interview for a Slovenian TV.
Great coverage. I think it would be great April Fool's day next year if Chris posted a race and made up all of the riders names :)
Hehehe. Today I was making up names left and right. Well, all the names exist but I was taking half from one rider and mixing half of another. 🤪🦋👊😂
Do you think if there was a "Classique Chris Horner" (p/b Chesterfield Furniture of Bend, OR) that a few people might show up to race?
@@ChrisHornerCycling best celebrity version I could think of last night was "Tom Jones just attacked Frank Stallone" :)
Watching on Mon ... (early bedtime), great vid. as always Chris!!
Waiting for your video Chris!
Great to see Victor put in an appearance, doing what he does best - lighting it up!
Hi Chris, Thank you for providing thrill, tension and drama, in your show. You do justice to the epic life and death stories only a racer like you can provide. Leslie
Yes! The recap I need! Great TDF so far
I’m not tactician, but I feel that this has always been the plan for UAE. That’s why they brought all the climbers. Today They are testing JV. They are just testing the team, only Jonas could hold his wheel. In the mountains I feel that UAE is gonna consummate this plan and do to JV what jumbo Visma did to TP. Isolate and attack. Visma can no longer cover that attack. It’s only a matter of time till JV can’t hold it. Remco is remco. He’s gonna keep doing what he’s doing fall out of the favorites. I was surprised about Primoz, wasn’t expecting that
All Jonas has to do is watch Tadej. UAE will crumble in the heat then it’ll be him vs Jonas.
@@chevyrydah04 I get the sense for JV, this will be the tactic. Follow and wait, follow and wait.
JT and Visma.. always been shady as hell and this just shows - back to the same old bs
Have you noticed that for past two days Almeida was hidding, I suspect that on Tuesday there’s gonna be be big attack either from him or Soler.
And if that are your theory then you too should have many hours of satisfying hours watching if that comes through, right? That are part of the beauty of this race. MANY theories can be had but only reality of each stage show how that theory hold up. Last 2-3 years have been best Tdf´s in my memory and this years first two stages have been best start stages in TdF history in my opinion (NEVER another 1st stage TT again in my opinion). That Pogocar had heightened Covid values 2 weeks before the start and Jonas had his awful crash in April makes these two first stages even more impressive for both. There are no givens. Only time will tell if both reach Paris.
Stage 4 will be so telling. Can't wait. Also, go Cav on stage 3.
Yay, I waited all day for this video. Thank you Chris!
Great race today. Gotta give it to that young uno x rider he was a beast today.
The other Jonas!
I think Tadej at the arrival tried to avoid getting the jersey, I think he was even trying to get a 1 sec gap just to be sure not to get the jersey
It definetly looked that way, he even jumped out of the finishing group not to be in the front before finish line.
Why didn't he brake to get a gap then?
It was indeed intentional. He apparently said it to Remco after the finish.
I thought so too. Hard to believe he can think of that during such a tough stage and race. Very Smart.
Wow! You should on a TV signal! This is the best race break down I have ever seen. Unfortunately I missed the live race yesterday, but after watching at least 3 highlights, with all those images and key moments already seen, but still couldn't picture what actually happened. (If I haven't watched this probably still not and not knowing I'm not) Although it could be the double lap makes race especially highlights confusing. Really really nice!
such great coverage.
As we say in the south ,this was some John Brown racing !!!!! Great coverage Chris ! When we listen to the guys on Peacock cover the race and then listen to you, well ,there is no comparison !!! My wife and I are sitting on the Chesterfield as you would phrase it and wonder ,what's up with the suits and ties !!!!!
Mr. Chesterfield himself! Love your analysis after each race! I might be a bit biased as I am a big Jonas fan, but guys how great was this final yesterday! I hope we will see something similar on Tuesday as I want it to be a close race between at least 3-4 competitors for the first two weeks and after that I hope that Jonas will be able to make it again! Even though it has to be seen if the training of round about 4-5 week-ish will be enough!
Chris Horner is like listening to radio broadcasts must have been before TV brought visuals to the audience. He's a fantastic narrator.
✊🤕 I call out the NBC coverage. Watching the finish and nothing about Remco or Car until 10 seconds from the line and they just appear. Euro Sport was updating the whole time on the descent and we knew they were coming.
Also another fan ✊🤕 today woman with cell phone hitting EFE rider in the head.
I miss all the Eurosport coverage. 🥲🦋
@@ChrisHornerCycling I'm in Hood River, and I watch Eurosport... it's possible. ;)
NBC is UNWATCHABLE at this point. Horrible coverage.
I saw that too. Of all times to get on the phone? She'd probably been waiting a few hours for them to pass. So hard to police the fans. I just find it so disrespectful of the riders to pull this crap. These guys train their arse off to get to this race
Yeah such a shame that Peacock didn’t include world feed.
Hoping Primoz proves us wrong on stage 4.
It didn’t help that Roglic was out of position in the climb. Maybe he was cutting the calories short. Who knows, maybe just a bad day, let’s hope. 🤔🤞🦋👊
@@ChrisHornerCyclingmighty early to have a "bad day" on stage TWO
@@ChrisHornerCycling he said for a Slovenian TV that he had bad legs / bad day and because of this he wasn't positioned where he wanted to be.
6@uroskra77 way to early for a bad day. Anything over day 10 is fair enough but day two? I don't buy it. Both doms for him where in position. He's not paying attention. He shouldn't be anything less than seventh wheel if he's serious about winning. We'll see after stage 4 if he's still leader. He may be riding for vlasov or hindley if he doesn't wake up unless he's riding for $ instead of winning.
Thank you Chris - what an exciting stage : so glad Remco and Carapaz chased them down
Sleeping in on the west coast? I’ve been waiting patiently today for you to drop this on the east coast 😂
Two Frenchmen win from the break to start this off. Will this be the year of the breakaway?
I guess the french found Jumbos orange juice from last year pretty strange since 1968 tour de France no french riders won the first 2 stages
It could be. 🤔🦋👊🔥
Abrahamsen is having a good season, I thought he was being a bit ambitious yesterday sprinting for everything in the break, but its paid off for him.
Yes it did 👊🔥💪🦋
Great summary of an exciting stage. Looks like Vingegaard was sandbagging everyone at least a bit. He looks like he has the legs early but it’s a long 3 weeks and he did miss some training. Pogacar was on the offensive but at the end it looked like he didn’t want yellow just yet. Be interesting to see if it changes UAE strategy if he’s still in yellow at the end of the day tomorrow. It was Evenepoel that was spectacular on this stage. It looked like he was dropped a couple of times but he just magically reappeared with the leaders when it counted. Great stage.
Remco is TT WC and the stage ended with a long flat. You can see him pulling Carapaz TT-style all the way to the line.
Jonas had his spidey sense working today! He was on Tadej’s wheel immediately. Then they both (as you noted) worked together!
Wheel sucking with jvS pulls mainly on downhill sections . Tp will need to let jv do the pulling on longer climbs like 4 et al
They hardly worked together. Jonas did the bare minimum to not look completely soft and come under fire from fans (has already happened before) or worse, piss Tadej off enough for him to comment post-race. Jonas’s legs were just fine to contribute to a meaningful rotation. He just never does. Maybe he’s smarter tactically over 3 weeks, but he’s boring and irritating to watch sometimes. Jonas is passive and sheepish (always looking over his shoulder; practically paranoid) and relies on team guidance vs. instinct and full-send commitment. He “pulled” today to “save face”. Tadej was clearly not happy with Jonas’s initial reluctance to pull at all.
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Hey Chris, do you know the name of that lion mascot you have behind you? 😊
@TraderJHart fully agree - they could have taken more time on Roglic and Evanepoel. Jonas is much more deoendant on his team than Tadej... always been. Previous 2 Tours... only the team that made it possible for Jonas. Tadej virtually did it all alone the past 2 years...
Look at Victor Campanarts’ low drag aero position in that frame! He’s incredible! My man!
another great butterfly effect mr horner, till tomorrow
I didnt have any doubts about Vinegard shape but he cleared up all the doubts just in case lol
I just laughed when Tadej "attacked" only to grab a water bottle and sit up ... what a play! He's toying with JV..."let's see whatcha got!"
Your analysis is spot on on bora.
Good job chris
How about those speed wobbles on that Bianchi as Vauquelin crossed the line. He had a hard time taking his hands off the bars!
Bora wanting Dsm to chase and losing time in GC is just the top of knucklheadism.
Hindley and vlasov where in position for the final climb. What do they have to do....tie a rope to his bike so he doesn't get lost?
I think bora knew that dsm CANNOT cover the move..but bora had bad legs of roglic and have to wait for him
Arrow work 🔥 as always!
Well I'm glad Pogacar has the Yellow Jersey, but today's stage was not a hard finish to drop Vingegaard enough so of course he can follow Pogacar up the 3rd category climbs and then flat the rest of the way. No doubt Vingegaard has form right now on flat roads and little climbs, but Pogacar attacking made no sense to me cause it was flat after he attacked like how is he gonna gain time on Vingegaard 😂 I think we need to see how Vingegaard does up an actual mountain finish and can he not get dropped from Pogacar up a mountain. Other than that I'm glad it worked out either way but he could have saved energy since it was a flat finish and he wasn't gonna lose Vingegaard.🤨🦋🦋
Pogacar was testing his opponents tbh..he did not go too hard, he wanted to gauge their responsiveness and form
Don’t let some of the people hear you say this. They will try and tell you that Jonas staying on Pogs wheel after a 5 second acceleration (watch the video, it’s literally 5 seconds before they go right and left under the arches) means that Jonas winning the tour is a forgone conclusion.
Now don’t get me wrong, this shows some form from both as they did manage to gap everyone but Carapaz (lol 😂.. Carapaz) but this was such a short effort and these guys had a pretty easy day up to this point.
Glad to see Jonas, Pog, and Remco showing form. But some people are talking so definitively about the race. Just silly talk. Whatever happens after stage 4 I’ll start to listen though!
Exactly right - today doesn’t prove too much. Let’s see the mountains first.
Pog tried to slow at the last to give yellow to Remco....Pog will win at the end, but he does not need or want yellow so early with so many GC with same time
Jonas has some that’s for sure. Pogi too 🇫🇷🔥🦋👊💪
Visma smokescreen worked out perfect!
Vingegaard much better than expected
🇩🇰 Roglic 👎 alarming weak on Luca
Climb Vingegaard telling TV 2 Denmark
He was surprised over how good his
Leg was, sounding mighty Reliefed
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There was no smokescreen, those who watched the released videos regularly know well that he will be in fine form. You just have to analyze the data, and not fall in the storytelling trap. However, Pogacar problems with temperature are always concerning, and he looked a little tired. Temperature could be a deciding factor for this rivalry.
Yes so true, I watched and wondering why Hindley and Vlasov not pulling in the descent (others from Ineos and UAE not in mercy)...
Thanks Chris great review as always from you. Regarding the stellar ride by Richard Carapaz, it’s likely that a major motivation is he is sticking up two fingers in the face of the Ecuadorian cycling federation who inexplicably left him out of the Ecuadorian cycling team for the upcoming Olympics in Paris. Based on performance he should easily have been on the team but it seems that somebody in Ecuador has a grudge.
As to Jonas it was a marvellous day but as Jonas himself noted having only been back on the bike for 6 weeks after 2.5 months off the bike caution is warranted.
@Chris Horner, stage 4 do you agree this stage should've finished on the mountain with the cars waiting down the climb? It's now 16km descending before the finish, which seems to me to be extremely dangerous, with GC candidates taking extreme risks to descend?
Good review Chris. I am also happy looking like Richie getting stronger and his form is getting better after poor spring. I maybe the only who believes he can be in the podium over Remco and Roglic
it's a two horses race
A short punchy climb like that is where RE should perform well, and yet he got dropped anyway.
Comes the Galibier, he will be back with the rest.
The only reason why we might not see the same gaps as at the Giro is that JV and TP will be controlling each other. Otherwise, TP could have already put 20-30s on the rest
I don't think TP even start to get serious. He was just diping his toe in the water to give it a little look. Way too much is being read into this short, medium degree climb..
But based on last 2 tours and the last Vuelta, Jonas typically peaks and excels in the later half of the tour where the big mountain stages are and can drop Pog. Why wouldn't UAE want to put as much time as they can into a compromised Jonas on a stage that supposedly should have favoured Pog? I think UAE tried and did the best they could, but Jonas and Visma were able to match them. I may be wrong, but I think Visma and Jonas will conserve energy and do just what they need to do in the first half of the tour to stay close, and then dominate in the latter mountain stages.
Awesome to see jonas latch on to pogo in an instance
my man Victor Campenaerts 🤜🤛
the finish by Remco and Carapaz would put the scares into Pog and Jonas to make sure they extract every advantage out of the extreme climbs.
Another great recap. Think Adam Yates shouldn't touch his earpiece just before Tadej's move, possible sign for Jonas to move.
Garrett, One thing to note my view had a black section at the bottom so could not see the top items which were being flagged.
Good ! It's not going to be a cake walk for pog like the Giro ! If this is Jonas in recovery mode then we have a proper race ! Cause he's back ...
It looks like we are going to have a real race at this year's Tour, unlike the Giro. Jonas and Remco look in good form after recovering from their injuries.
I've loved the 35 mm Vingegaard's wheel. Or was it a 40 ?
Same old JV. Same old shenanigans
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TDF is shapin up!!! French guys are winning in Italy and the GC group is getting thick. I may need a sprint stage just to calm down lol
In the end, Pog didn’t want the yellow so soon. UAE will now be under pressure.
If he finished two places behind Remco tomorrow then he will lose yellow. If you can place a bet on Remco crossing the line before Pog on stage 3 then hammer that bet. Put your house on it! And please let me know if you find that bet lololol
Correct....Pog admitted this to Remco, as he hoped Remco would get the yellow because he slowed at the last....look at JB2
Sprinters will do all the work tomorrow. 💪🦋👊
@@J-cz7yvit's a sprint stage
@@ChrisHornerCycling yeah but UAE will end up doing all the work in the Alps on tuesday which is, i guess, what Pogi was trying to avoid
Great you got sponsors!
Yes. For tomorrow it will be KetoneAid coming on aboard for some stages. 👊🦋
Great! Second day only and carnage unseen
It's to soon yet to get a more definitive picture of the brutal fights that will arrive on the 2nd week, must wait to the much longer climbs to see if Jonas could really fight t'il the last stage of this tour !!! 21st stage ITT 34,4 km which includes a category 2 climb !!! All this after more than 3500 km !?!?
Carapaz intrigues me. He could be a wild card for the podium.
Can’t wait to see Carapaz does in the high mountains. It wouldn’t be a big surprise to see him very good. 🤔🏔️ 🦋👊
I'm playing a fantasy cycling game called Tourmanager and I immediately put him on my team after yesterday's stage. It's a risk, but one I'm willing to take for a guy of his potential.
Chris, I’m confused. Why on stage 3 is Carapaz in yellow with same time. Also, why is Jonas same time as Remco and Tadej when he crossed not in the same group many seconds behind? Is this because of the crash rule , or do you need to be in the crash to benefit? Thx
Jonas pulling with Tadej was a nice surprise
Remco is such a monster. Reeling in Pog and Vingo was quite a feat.
To me it looked like Jonas doesn’t have 100% legs especially the snap out of the corners, but battle was epic
Sweet 🎉
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Your commentary is so much better than peacocks ….Thank you
Looks like TP was dropping back at the finish to not get yellow jersey? Thoughts???
Correct! He admits that to Remco after the race.....
Totally!
Yes! He knew if they all scored the same time he would get Yellow, so he soft-pedaled the sprint to try to create a gap to let Remco have it, hence that post-race cool-down interaction. Maybe a kind gesture to the Belgian, but I think an attempted tactic to let Soudal defend the jersey on stage 4 so UAE can sit back and mark Visma.
Nah. He was upset that Jonas wasn’t working. So he just backed off. 🤔🦋💪👊🔥🇫🇷
@@ChrisHornerCyclingNo, find and listen to him talk to Remco after the stage. He didn't want yellow.
Excitement is brewing. TDF let's go❤🇵🇭🚴!
Can we expect any GC development today?
"If a commentator tells you it's not mythical ..." it's' because they understand the meaning of the word. The climb may be legendary, but it definitely exists.
Roglic is probably already regretting changing teams.
Lumpy and bumpy! Classic!!!
The big question IMO will be whether at least two of Ayuso, Almeida and Yates are stronger than Matteo Jorgensen. Because then they can distance Jorgensen with at least 3 riders of UAE incl Pogi at the front. they can play the games with JV and he needs to follow these attacks because they can also be a threat for the yellow jersey.
Someone like João Almeida winning TDF is a lose for UAE...
Chris, I was listening to Patrick and Benji over at the Lantern Rouge podcast and they asked themselves if it was clever of Tadej to pull with Jonas if it was putting time into Yates and Ayuso which both have top 5 GC aspirations. I think it was a no brainer for Jonas to pull with Tadej, as he was pulling away from Roglic, Yates and Ayuso.
Any thoughts on that?
I guess wout was playing possum on the final climb but something didn’t look right after the crash.