I can understand TMM, I love playing him for the throws, it be like that. Ggs to both of you, now what I would really like to strive for is be an Armor King like that.
Armor King is one of the characters I love to see in ranked, even if I get my shit mixed. It's better than the thousandth sweaty Feng or spammy 2 bar Law
@@bloodyjar3273 yeah, I can agree that there are some players who jump to certain characters based on how strong that character is and use them annoyingly. But, it's part of the game. If it wasn't Feng, or any other top tier character for that matter, it would be another.
10:41 My mind was blown when he called Armor King's ff2 a demon paw. I never thought of that move as a demon paw type move until hearing him say it but it actually is.. Why have I not been using it as such? Oof.
"it's like when I got fed up with seeing bryan once per day, I was like, can we get some variety please" bruh people match minimum 5 kazuyas daily from grey to red ranks
@@AfroKing. as an ak main, trust me learning throw breaks do not help against king and AK. since they break the rules of throw breaking. out of wave dash you can do 1/2/1+2 throws that look.. double handed. for example: Crouch dash qcb1+2 and Cd1+4 are two different breaks and they look exactly the same.
@@aramil_0 there’s like basic amounts of risk to throwing it goes for every character. A single sidestep, backdash, ducking. Keep out moves like Lee b4 Asuka b3 Chloe uf3 josie uf3 Bryan 3+4 king uf1 armor king b1+4 Steve duck stance and so on. But it’s minimalistic risk. Not a lot.
7:07 I'm here XD heihachi hardstuck from revered ruler to eternal and been once in Fujin for one day. Most people here have around 400k prowess so I guess they can have above blue ranks characters. I got used to promoting and getting demoted every day
I go through the exact same thing, I've been hardstuck at heihachi fujin for a long time now and it's kinda just natural at this point to derank and rank up
@@notspider-man5765 but I'm not that annoyed, I'm currently trying to get better at game so playing vs gods is profit :D Edit: I just need to stop caring that much about rank i suppose
His complains are exactly the same as me lol. I hate playing against kings and they are everywhere. Also ranked is so stressful. I became fujin with Lars and Leroy and i quit doing ranks ever again. Rulers are full of top rank players who have insanely defence. I got lucky getting to fujin.
7:10 actaully as a ruler rank its the opposite for me if i go against a someone with high rank main i try play better and overall if i lose i lose in a good way other rulers are giving me cancer most of the times
Breaking throws is so much harder than just blocking, nobody can convince me throws aren't cheesey as hell. Using throws is a cheese crutch in every rank
@@R1C4RD0R3D15 I understand the cheesy natures of throws, but how are they true 50/50s? You gotta get hit by the throw first which are highs for the most part, and you get another chance at breaking them after.
@@KyokoUltimate Because armor king's and king's throws can only be broken by 1 of three potential inputs. I believe its actually worse than a 50/50, and would be a 33% chance of breaking it. You need to guess which input to use, and I don't believe there is any way to know which one it is a the time they use it.
Yeah but that's the whole point of a grappler lol. Doing a throw (which can ducked or sidestepped) is a commitment in itself; you can easily be launched for attempting it. And then the one being grabbed STILL has a chance of breaking it. Also, there's a vid out there of JDCR in rank consistently breaking this King's shining wizard/giant swing mixups. It's not easy, but it's possible to react to the hand height/speed at which it comes out (between GS and SW), the distance at which they attempt the throw if their inputs aren't clean, and the situation in which they attempt the throw (back to wall, facing wall, etc.) which makes it not 'total' RNG
In my tekken 7 ps4 region, I have like a Group, where people kinda know each other by name or personal stats, half of them where eddy bc its a character from my country, its kinda depressing but cool at the same time
I play ranked at Eternal Ruler and can barely ever find players when I have time to play during the week. Most of the time they're not within one rank from me either.
To be fair I had the most fun going against tgp mighty ruler alts as I felt like I learnt a lot from each one, I'd rather dm someone like that then some 1 and done rando ruler. (when I was that rank)
I don’t know if that would work. You can get a bunch of prowess just by playing different characters (at least I think so), so you can end up getting double the prowess of a player that is a character loyalist, even if they’re a better Tekken player. I think ranked would be better if 2 matches minimum with the same player were required. A lagger would be annoying, but it would clean up the amount of people getting carried by never rematching players that beat them (or almost beat them), so it would be more reflective of skill.
@@2lowkey100 yeah injustice was like this. In ranked it forced FT2 but all it did was make people rage quit exceptionally more. That would only work if they actually implemented a punishment for rage quitters.
the term 50/50 is vague and misleading , they are 90/10 to new players 70/30 to intermediate , 60/40 to the elites , with arlsan , knee khan or meo-il even devilster and xhk-asad this is where a 50/50 is bound to 50% failure
06:22 TMM: "Masku tech" **Proceeds to do a weird af wall optimization into putting himself backturned for the opponent** I laughed my ass off. Nice tech.
I’d rather get hit by a throw than a low that leads to a combo, I’m bias as a grappler player but throw chains have a chance to be broken every step of the way but a combo from a launcher you just have to sit and watch
I know mainman hates Josie but I just hit genbu with her only for the bull horns. My rank purpose is hit rank for bull horns 😂. But it’s fun I like rank a lot
As a person in ruler, I can say he is 100% right, 80% of my matches are against TG+s using their off chars, I needed to take a break because of how tired I was getting.
Yeah since I hit fujin on both xbox and ps4 I kept getting matched up with gods on secondaries. It is torture. I stopped playing rank every since. Rank in 8 needs to show me who I match up with or rank all characters up at the same time or have gods on secondaries match up with other players on secondaries. Other fighting games do these things. So can tekken.
I like ranks but I stopped at Emperor...not because I can't keep climbing, I know I can keep improving but...either I destroy some green emperor and he leaves after 1 match and have to wait another 15 to 20 min to fight the same dude...or I get destroyed by some 8000 wins veteran TGP playing with one of his secondaries...now I just play quickmatches or with friends
''Just break the throw'' doesn't solve the actual problem. In fact the ''root'' of the problem is King and Armored King themselves as they were built that way , its not about whether if you CAN break them or not , its about whether if you get the CHANCE to break it or you GUESSED right. Sure some of grabs can be broken , but if its the ones where you really need to GUESS which input is the correct one unless you're a LITERALY GOD , forget learning how to ''break the thow'' , you are in Lady Luck's hands.
I’m with block. When did TMM imply that it’s only him that gets annoyed fighting certain characters for long periods? He was literally just stating his feelings. What point is being made here?
@@2lowkey100 The point is that he complains about being forced to play AK (one of the most popular chars) over and over again while he plays Kaz who is even more popular lol. Oh, and apparently he doesn't like being mixed too. Hypocrisy, much? I thought that playing fundamental characters is always fun but but he complains about every character whether it is a character he likes or not so I don't really give a damn, honestly. Funny salt session though.
@Noob Tactics I dont understand your stance because you claim hypocrisy yet understand he is salty. He even states in the video that he enjoys AK and King. Im not trying to White Knight for TMM, but it seems you're just stirring a pot for no reason
If you play ranked in Pakistan, you will be greeted and utterly destroyed by smurfs in the beginner ranks. Rarely do you find someone who plays like their rank. If you play quick matches, it's either really good players or complete beginners. But when you manage to find someone closer in skill, those matches are the most enjoyable.
I like when players are salty. Makes you better at the game. Being salty is the same as being competitive. Ofc there is a fine line between competitively salty and getting tilted.
Hearing a mishima player complain about 50-50s is hilarious, its okay though the salt gets to us all.
Why? Most characters in the game have great 50/50s. Maybe as a Kazuya player this is funnier, but not all Mishimas.
He said the same shit in the video, he already acknowledged salt is incredibly unreasonable but we all do it, can't pretend.
He's playing heihachi...
at least watch the video
Hehachi doesnt have good 50 50
My friend likes to call 50/50s with higher than usual unpredictability "75/75s" lol. This Armor King was pretty good at them I'd say😂.
That’s not how percents work.
@@meljXD2 It's a joke bro.
@@meljXD2 "umm actually"🤓
R/woosh moment
@@meljXD2 sniffed that one out huh? Nothing gets past you
I can understand TMM, I love playing him for the throws, it be like that. Ggs to both of you, now what I would really like to strive for is be an Armor King like that.
Armor King is one of the characters I love to see in ranked, even if I get my shit mixed. It's better than the thousandth sweaty Feng or spammy 2 bar Law
Agreed in my experience nothing but Feng in ranked its sickening
@bloodyjar3273 if I eat that shoulder one more time I'm gonna swallow my stick
Eh, I'm a Feng main but I've used him since Tag 2. He was the first character I learnt to play the game properly with alongside King.
@Jonathan Harwood That's fine but the people I play are really cocky and abuse him because of how strong he is right now not out of enjoyment.
@@bloodyjar3273 yeah, I can agree that there are some players who jump to certain characters based on how strong that character is and use them annoyingly. But, it's part of the game. If it wasn't Feng, or any other top tier character for that matter, it would be another.
10:41 My mind was blown when he called Armor King's ff2 a demon paw. I never thought of that move as a demon paw type move until hearing him say it but it actually is.. Why have I not been using it as such? Oof.
I love the way armor king runs up and kicks his opp in the face after the match. what a legend
"it's like when I got fed up with seeing bryan once per day, I was like, can we get some variety please"
bruh people match minimum 5 kazuyas daily from grey to red ranks
leArN tHroW bREaKs
Well generally speaking, you should learn throw breaks against literally every other character since you can react to their hands.
@@AfroKing. as an ak main, trust me learning throw breaks do not help against king and AK. since they break the rules of throw breaking.
out of wave dash you can do 1/2/1+2 throws that look.. double handed. for example: Crouch dash qcb1+2 and Cd1+4 are two different breaks and they look exactly the same.
@@rivencarriedu5690 oh ok. so even more riskless damage. i getcha
@@aramil_0 there’s like basic amounts of risk to throwing it goes for every character. A single sidestep, backdash, ducking. Keep out moves like Lee b4 Asuka b3 Chloe uf3 josie uf3 Bryan 3+4 king uf1 armor king b1+4 Steve duck stance and so on. But it’s minimalistic risk. Not a lot.
Love the way he tried to stay composed.
The whiff punishes on the Electrics were something else
Comment section been going hard on TMM recently lmao 😂
Frr no mercy 😅
tekken players being salty, nothing new
saw u on brawlpros stream today
@@khacks1238 yeah I just checked his twitch I didn’t know that was him.
Ranked matches stopped phasing me long time ago but i still feel away when having to see full intro/outro after we've done so many matches
15:57 heihachi becomes a spinny top but Yoshi spins too much he gets dizzy 😂
7:07 I'm here XD heihachi hardstuck from revered ruler to eternal and been once in Fujin for one day. Most people here have around 400k prowess so I guess they can have above blue ranks characters. I got used to promoting and getting demoted every day
I go through the exact same thing, I've been hardstuck at heihachi fujin for a long time now and it's kinda just natural at this point to derank and rank up
Same but for Ruler AK. That's just Tekken I suppose
@@notspider-man5765 but I'm not that annoyed, I'm currently trying to get better at game so playing vs gods is profit :D
Edit:
I just need to stop caring that much about rank i suppose
His complains are exactly the same as me lol. I hate playing against kings and they are everywhere. Also ranked is so stressful. I became fujin with Lars and Leroy and i quit doing ranks ever again. Rulers are full of top rank players who have insanely defence. I got lucky getting to fujin.
bruh how is playing leroy stressful? lol
@@Smoothalcoholic Bruh don't be so condescending. He's clearly talking about the rank experience in general and he's factually correct.
Im never getting out of 3rd Dan dw bout it mate
@@johnnymonsterrrr I’ll get you out of 3rd if you let me rock on your account
@@youwishbro7543 get me out of savior please, I wanna be genbu
I think you can reliably step armor king crouch dash, unless he realign of course
I’m currently in a really bad slump. I was so close to getting Overlord just the other week and now I’m back at Usurper 😢
Today's usurpers are yesterday's mighty rulers. I don't believe you're good if you're playing hwoarang though.
@Boris Keckes what?
DUDE ME TOO MY PRIDE WOULDNT LET ME LEAVE AGAINST A KING HE WON 16 STRAIGHT… i just accepted the demotion if online king says i don’t deserve it
@Ethan Tuazon only way to get better
@@SqueezyCoyote respect
AK can really be a pain in the wazoo!!
Love the design but damn..
-How do you prefer you TMM?
-With a little bit of Salt
7:10 actaully as a ruler rank its the opposite for me if i go against a someone with high rank main i try play better and overall if i lose i lose in a good way other rulers are giving me cancer most of the times
it's odd to see that this AK doesn't use the ss 2,1 setup... thanks for the great content, loved this video!
9:47 there’s not a video that gets posted that he doesn’t do his little signature finger point to the side 😂
Breaking throws is so much harder than just blocking, nobody can convince me throws aren't cheesey as hell. Using throws is a cheese crutch in every rank
He's literally a grappler/wrestler
@@AfroKing. Yeah for sure, but he's one of the only characters in the game that can force a true on-rails 50/50. Total rng.
@@R1C4RD0R3D15 I understand the cheesy natures of throws, but how are they true 50/50s? You gotta get hit by the throw first which are highs for the most part, and you get another chance at breaking them after.
@@KyokoUltimate Because armor king's and king's throws can only be broken by 1 of three potential inputs. I believe its actually worse than a 50/50, and would be a 33% chance of breaking it. You need to guess which input to use, and I don't believe there is any way to know which one it is a the time they use it.
Yeah but that's the whole point of a grappler lol. Doing a throw (which can ducked or sidestepped) is a commitment in itself; you can easily be launched for attempting it. And then the one being grabbed STILL has a chance of breaking it. Also, there's a vid out there of JDCR in rank consistently breaking this King's shining wizard/giant swing mixups. It's not easy, but it's possible to react to the hand height/speed at which it comes out (between GS and SW), the distance at which they attempt the throw if their inputs aren't clean, and the situation in which they attempt the throw (back to wall, facing wall, etc.) which makes it not 'total' RNG
In my tekken 7 ps4 region, I have like a Group, where people kinda know each other by name or personal stats, half of them where eddy bc its a character from my country, its kinda depressing but cool at the same time
armor king is such a great chiropractor
I play ranked at Eternal Ruler and can barely ever find players when I have time to play during the week. Most of the time they're not within one rank from me either.
To be fair I had the most fun going against tgp mighty ruler alts as I felt like I learnt a lot from each one, I'd rather dm someone like that then some 1 and done rando ruler. (when I was that rank)
IMO, Tekken matchups should be based on Prowess not Rank.
I don’t know if that would work. You can get a bunch of prowess just by playing different characters (at least I think so), so you can end up getting double the prowess of a player that is a character loyalist, even if they’re a better Tekken player.
I think ranked would be better if 2 matches minimum with the same player were required. A lagger would be annoying, but it would clean up the amount of people getting carried by never rematching players that beat them (or almost beat them), so it would be more reflective of skill.
@@2lowkey100 yeah injustice was like this. In ranked it forced FT2 but all it did was make people rage quit exceptionally more. That would only work if they actually implemented a punishment for rage quitters.
This got recommended to me because of the recent wavu wavu King changes in Tekken 8 lol.
Stream was funny asf😂😂😂
Throws aren't as bad as pre t7 days where you have to guess left right or double throw anymore. So... No Complain there
the term 50/50 is vague and misleading , they are 90/10 to new players 70/30 to intermediate , 60/40 to the elites , with arlsan , knee khan or meo-il even devilster and xhk-asad this is where a 50/50 is bound to 50% failure
not a single shadow needle in the entire set, ggs
06:22
TMM: "Masku tech"
**Proceeds to do a weird af wall optimization into putting himself backturned for the opponent**
I laughed my ass off. Nice tech.
Lol Master Raven isn't hard to deal with. She's just tricky to deal with. Just play patient against her and you'll be good
Yeah king, armor king, and marduk are huge knowledge checks and I hate studyin’ bruv
those 2 first matches were everything i hate about tekken
I’d rather get hit by a throw than a low that leads to a combo, I’m bias as a grappler player but throw chains have a chance to be broken every step of the way but a combo from a launcher you just have to sit and watch
Low launchers are pretty rare though but im guessing you cant block snake edge on reaction
Well low parry is a option or maybe block low
@@Retro_Banks throw breaking is also an option
I know mainman hates Josie but I just hit genbu with her only for the bull horns. My rank purpose is hit rank for bull horns 😂. But it’s fun I like rank a lot
As a person in ruler, I can say he is 100% right, 80% of my matches are against TG+s using their off chars, I needed to take a break because of how tired I was getting.
How to jab?
0:40 combo (note for self)
More players would still be playing if there were a lot less toxic and plugging players.
Yeah since I hit fujin on both xbox and ps4 I kept getting matched up with gods on secondaries. It is torture. I stopped playing rank every since. Rank in 8 needs to show me who I match up with or rank all characters up at the same time or have gods on secondaries match up with other players on secondaries. Other fighting games do these things. So can tekken.
I like ranks but I stopped at Emperor...not because I can't keep climbing, I know I can keep improving but...either I destroy some green emperor and he leaves after 1 match and have to wait another 15 to 20 min to fight the same dude...or I get destroyed by some 8000 wins veteran TGP playing with one of his secondaries...now I just play quickmatches or with friends
Hell yeaa, hell yeaaa, i hope hei will get back in t8 :D gonna miss those electrics
He is dead
ay bro i got bad news
''Just break the throw'' doesn't solve the actual problem. In fact the ''root'' of the problem is King and Armored King themselves as they were built that way , its not about whether if you CAN break them or not , its about whether if you get the CHANCE to break it or you GUESSED right.
Sure some of grabs can be broken , but if its the ones where you really need to GUESS which input is the correct one unless you're a LITERALY GOD , forget learning how to ''break the thow'' , you are in Lady Luck's hands.
What was this monologue lmao
I wish I can combo
combo is the easiest part of the game
Keep practicing you will get it
Not gonna lie bro ... I see armor king and king in all level of rank in tekken
Ppl who smurf intentionally to mess with lower ranks instead of just wanting to learn a new character really don't get out the house much
happens a lot at low ranks which make it nearly impossible to rank up and play other people actually at your skill level
armour king backdash and range is broken.
TMM is sponsored by hyperX now?
throws in fighting games are generally annoying
Guess what TMM people hate playing Kaz for hours every single day too! Crazy, huh?
JuSt LeArN tHe MaTcHuP bRo🤤
What point are you making?
I’m with block. When did TMM imply that it’s only him that gets annoyed fighting certain characters for long periods? He was literally just stating his feelings. What point is being made here?
@@2lowkey100 The point is that he complains about being forced to play AK (one of the most popular chars) over and over again while he plays Kaz who is even more popular lol. Oh, and apparently he doesn't like being mixed too. Hypocrisy, much? I thought that playing fundamental characters is always fun but but he complains about every character whether it is a character he likes or not so I don't really give a damn, honestly. Funny salt session though.
@Noob Tactics I dont understand your stance because you claim hypocrisy yet understand he is salty. He even states in the video that he enjoys AK and King. Im not trying to White Knight for TMM, but it seems you're just stirring a pot for no reason
If you play ranked in Pakistan, you will be greeted and utterly destroyed by smurfs in the beginner ranks. Rarely do you find someone who plays like their rank. If you play quick matches, it's either really good players or complete beginners. But when you manage to find someone closer in skill, those matches are the most enjoyable.
"Describe ranks in one word only"
Greed
how many b1s did mainman eat lmao
i wish there where people to play in africa 😢
you can change download region in steam to London UK, you’ll get opponents hopefully.
We have wonderful Tekken community in Ivory Coast, Ghana, Nigeria, South Africa. Where are you
@@TigerCIV I'm in kenya on the east coast I moved here from america 🇺🇸
Swe you should play for honor, it has more players than tekken and its a 3d fighter style game thats really fun
@MainManSwe IF U WANT TO.... STRENGTHEN YOUR BRAINPOWER 🧠 AS A PLAYER YOU MUST.... MASTER ALL OF HEIHACHI BEST COMBOS !!!!!
Ur not an anime character chill out
Ur not an anime character chill out
5 minutes in no spam at all.
TMM gets outplayed = enemy throw spamming
*JuSt LeArN HoW To BrEaK ThRoWs.*
Lars the best of best 😊
I like when players are salty. Makes you better at the game. Being salty is the same as being competitive. Ofc there is a fine line between competitively salty and getting tilted.
What is smurfing
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I hate armor king ffn2 spam
MainManSimp*
just break them lol!
Why side step a hellsweep, just block it bro