How BBC Bosses Sabotaged Nation's Dalek Spy Thriller: The Original Master Plan
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Terry Nation was keen to change the direction of his Dalek stories and move away from whimsical time travel like The Chase, and into a more gritty real world scenario, which he could then spin-off into its own series. He worked hard on his world-building, only to have it undermined by a big decision that came from on high... - ZĂĄbava
I am thankful Master Plan was extended, because it led to my all time favorite first doctor moment in episode 10 when the daleks are holding his companions hostage yet he's making the demands, he's the one in control of the situation
Great video! I LOVE 'The Daleks' Master Plan" and it sounds like I might have loved the tighter Terry Nation version even more! Still, what we ended up with is great too, and possibly my personal favourite Dr Who story!
I love you guys. Thanks so much for making these supremely nerdy videos for all of us.
Thank you!
Interesting they planned to have a scene where Daleks attack the Test Match when something similar happened in the third H2G2 book which was originally an idea for a Dr Who story!
Why not Douglas Adams was the doctor who script editor before he wrote hitchhikers guide to the galaxy
at 21:55 that image of tom baker is him as Puddleglum from The Silver Chair, (narnia) BBC, 1990.
You got it!
Brilliant as usual, the high quality, and sense of humour in all your videos are great. Pigbin Tom nearly led to beer spillage I laughed so much.
Glad you got that joke. It seems that not everyone has!
A fascinating episode, as always! I wonder if the six-episode would've been more likely to survive the junking process; would've been easier to resell it internationally without "The Feast of Steven" in the mix, for sure.
And just to be silly, here's an idea for what the DARDIS's acronym could be:
Dalek Achronal Roaming Dimensionally Intermittent Spacecraft
I'm surprised that you haven't talked about Abducted by the Daleks yet. It's such a wild and obscure bit of vaguely Doctor Who related media and nobody has really talked about it in depth online. I bet the Nation estate were furious when it came out and if anyone could shine a light on it, it would be you!
I've always enjoyed the audio version of Daleks' Masterplan. I think I'm due another listen!
Fun fact: the recent BBC police series "Bloodlands", set in Northern Ireland... had a character with the surname Dardis: the only other time I have ever heard that word used anywhere else apart from on your channel! Was one of the "Bloodlands" scriptwriters a Dalek 63-88 geek?
21:55 Is Tom Baker perhaps auditioning here to be considered for the role of Jon Pertwee's replacement? Was he credited in the episode?
EDIT 22:15 It appears that Dardis is actually a genuine Irish surname.... so my geek theory sadly must be abandoned! haha
The Tom baker pic is from "The Silver Chair." A bit like saying he also played the Meddling Monk and having a still from "Nicholas and Alexandra" ;-)
Dardis was a very striking surname in 'Bloodlands' - sorry your theory wrong!
Pigbin Josh was played by Derek Ware, one if the regular stuntmen on the crew.
Perhaps Sidney Newman or Verity Lambert decided to name the ship using the Latin word "tardis" meaning late or slow, or perhaps they knew someone named Dardis...or some combination.....
17:01 that's a very impresssive colourised clip!
I really like the tonal shift Master Plan has, it helps the story feel fresh and spontaneous in a way it probably couldn't if it kept the same tone and setting throughout. It does cause some whiplash when the last episode switches back to the grim tone and gives us one of the saddest endings the show has ever had though.
I thought you said tonal shit
@@gordonfeetman445 Well, that's a whole other matter altogether...
The infamous 'Brown Note'.
I agree. It changes things up in a good way, rather than just adding a twist for the sae of it.
@@gordonfeetman445 Do Re Mi Fart.... Hey you had a tonal shit!
When you ask for a time machine to be sent immediately, of course it arrives immediately. :)
Hello Gavin,
Seeing as you have taken part of the DALEK Mark III Travel Machine Combat Training Manual, could you mabey do an extra video about Dalek tags from under the eyestalk? I thought that would be an very very interesting video.đ
Imagine the confidence the production office must have had to have an entire episode that had zero links to the original series regulars. Sure it had Daleks but still. Bold move.
This makes so much sense. Loved the first 5 episodes of DMP, so epic yet utterly terrifying and suspenseful like the first Dalek story. But then Ep 6-11 become a dull remake of the Chase and I start tuning out until Ep 12, where the tension resumes. My sympathy with Dennis & Co having to keep this monster going for a quarter of a year
Thank you endlessly for uploading this. I honestly think your videos are some of the best indepth, interesting and understanding on CZcams. This is such an excitement to see after a long hard day. You are my saviour!!!
Thank you!
That was wonderful! Keep up the good work Gav!
Thank you!
"Sarah Kingdom" is just _such_ a Bondian name, isn't it? :)
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I actually requested this video đ That's service to your fanbase at its finest.
Have you considered a video covering the original history of the Daleks in comics ?
The Pyramid story was later used in one of the 60s Dalek annuals
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Excellent video guys! Learnt a lot about The Dalek's Master Plan and it makes me long for more of the missing episodes of this story to turn up! Though I do think having it as 12 parts was way too much of a stretch!
I can't believe that I wasn't subscribed before, but I am now. Your videos always contain such great research and information. Thank you.
Brilliant as always, thank you, you wonderful people.
At 4:14, that guy on the right looks very familiar....the people of Ukraine would see similarities between him and the Daleks....
I have no memory of agent Walton [5:07], but I do remember the Brigadier: seems Nation got his story out by promoting Nicholas Courtney's character from spy to head of UNIT.
That may be because the character's name was changed to Brett Vyon. He was killed by his sister, Sarah Kingdom.
I love every time a video of this series comes out!
God I donât think itâs possible to convey how much I ADORE this series. Every time I see a new episode come out itâs so exciting!
Glad you enjoy them all!
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Why did they think a candle stick on top of that 'space helmet' would look good :)
Another great video! Very impressive recon sections with the Chen, the Monk and Trantis too!
Thank you!
I've always thought that Dardis would work as an in-universe nickname, a bit of wordplay that people besides the Daleks use to describe their timeship. Of course the number of characters familiar enough with both the Tardis and Dardis to make that word play is rather limited.
I guess i didn't know that some footage was colorized. And that's the first time I've seen Sarah Kingdom in color, as well.
Excellent video!
New classic Who, don't mind if I do
Many thanks for another wonderfully crafted slice of Doctor Who detail
Pigbin Josh was not played by Tom Baker, was that just a wee thing to see who was paying attention?
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Great video as always. I understand that early on, Vicki was still going to be the female companion in this story. Of course we got two female assistants instead. Both short lived, and destined not to survive.
And if Vicki had still been the companion, would she have ended up ejected into space or turned to dust? Hardly bears thinking about âŠ
First time I ever came across the word DARDIS was in a review - or more accurately, a hatchet job - in a 90s Doctor Who Magazine, of The Chase. The author clearly hated everything about the serial; but instead of doing an actual critique, he decided to make oh-so-clever strawman digs at the production and performances (for instance, he misrepresented the Aridians' description of their world as once being a vast ocean as "it was once very wet", and laughed at the ridiculous dialogue).
The article also referred to the DARDIS as "Daleks Are Rusty Dustbins In Space", and I was puzzled for years because there was no mention of this anywhere outside this article. I knew there's never been an onscreen reference to the name, so the guy was just being an idiot. Now I find out that the name wasn't even in the serial the writer was ridiculing, that goes double.
Or maybe, just maybe, the guy was having fun? Heaven forbid!
@@knshinn2 Sounds like he was having anything but fun.
@@knshinn2 No, he was having fun ripping The Chase to shreds. The whole tone of the piece was snotty derision.
Those recons are tripping me out. Super cool.
5:00 way to future proof, lol
Love this series!
Dr Who and the Punch-up with the Daleks.
excellent
I watched the Daleks master plan yesterday! what a treat this video is! đ
I'm with the other nay sayers about Sara Kingdom being a companion status. Katarina at least was in two stories so she can be counted. It makes absolute no sense to include Sara as a companion.
They may have called it dardis, but they also called the daleks, darleks
Noooooo "UK theatres"?! Another fantastic video as always!
Wasn't there a hint of the Master in this series or Davros and maker of the Deleks there was also a similar idea this lead to Unit on Earth and even a lot more than Deleks involvement in the series I think the series did lead to the second doctors stories and his look a like there's definitely something in this idea on Bond with a hint of time bending master mind from at it centre either a time lord rouge like the master or someone else and though not directly related to Doctor Who this did kind of reads as Blake 7 at its core and UFO TV series? Wonder if Blake 7 has a connection to the idea you've been talking about and eventually leads to the Shadow Procrastination idea from RTD?
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What's with the photo of Tom Baker in Silver Chair?
I'm curious, you introduce the character Van Hoom, but I recognised him as Mavic Chen. Later on you use the name Mavic Chen, is there another story here?
Was the original script not being described which had different character names from what went out originally?
@@MrBulky992 Possibly. It's not impossible that I dozed off.
Is that opening image coloured, it looks weird, all over the place...
Masterplan will always be a weird story, specially as we will never, ever, get to see it all, I also think Masterplan is what totally murdered dalekmania...
Hey, Sara's name could be a code name too, just as James bond isn't 007s real name đ
The survived episodes have all been colourised and they are available for free on public domain
@@horrorstew3577 no they haven't and none of it is public domain, just because someone sticks it online doesn't means it's legal.
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just joined your channel, ÂŁ5 a month for your content is so cheap, please never stop, i love your uploads so much. Fan since Fury of the deep
Thank you Paul. Thatâs really appreciated!
Shame that The Dalek's Master Plan is, aside from the audio, almost entirely missing.
3 episodes exist so it's done better than Troughtons dalek stories but more would have been amazing.
That initial sherial shounds intriguing
Ok I have to ask what did you mean by *adventures in Africa can be rewarding* I feel like Iâm missing something there
I'm just curious, what is the name of the song used in your intro, it has bugged me since I started watching
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@@Dalek6388 thanks so much, I've always wondered
I've often felt most DOCTOR WHO 6-parters were really 4-parters painfully padded out to 6. (The Tom Baker era finally fixed this by turning them into combination 4+2, 2+4, or, 2+2+2.) The Jon Pertwee "Frontier In Space" was, I felt, the best-structured of all his longer stories, having only as its main fault, that it led into "Planet of the Daleks", which is boring as hell for its entire length. Looked at that way, WHO had 2 different 12-parters with Daleks, where the 2 parts don't even feel like they're really connected.
What did the props department do with those props? Eat them? So many of these episodes tell us that âthe prop was damagedâ
They went out to public events etc and werenât treated that well!
Incredible research and fascinating content as always
Thank you!
Like daleke spy thriller the original master plan
Unbelievable that the Doctor Who script referred to the iconic evil pepperpots as a, "Darlek!"
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This dxaple demonstrates how much the British TV and Movie projects can see Eye to Eye with the American ones. and howfr reaching the influence of the British ones is.
Just think at the TV show UFO. That pilot comes over nowdays like a prequel of the Computer Game XCOM ENEMY UNKNOWN ( compare on CZcams UFO: BIRTH OF SHADOW by FansweaonUDO )
spooner used the bomb in the champions
4:14 how did he manage to snag Putin for the show?
16:05 the Dalek would be bricked up?! đłđ©đŠ
Terry Nation? 'Borrowing' ideas from elsewhere? Say it ain't so!!!
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Pigbin Josh lmao.
I think in billions of ways Dalek Masterplan should have been a six part serial like it was originally intended to be .I say the idea of doubling the episode length from 6 parts to 12 parts was stupid in billions and trillions of ways
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You skipped over something interesting there. If Terry nation was commissioned to write a six part serial and then at the last minute asked to double its length to 12 episodes, then it must mean that it was because someone else had been commissioned to write a six part serial to follow Daleks Masterplan but something went wrong with it, what was that story and what happened with it/to it?
I believe the doubling if episodes was partly because the director general of the BBC said that his mother (or mother n law?) Loved the Daleks. This was why they increased the number of episodes
@@acestjohn7861 Is that actually true?
16:39 - is this still images turned into moving footage?
Yes!
Why was the decision made to double the story? War Games for example was a script/s falling through... but there was no explanation here. Was it a fallen through script too, or was it the desire to have more Dalek episodes given their popularity? Shame they didn't just make it 2 individual stories...
Apparently the wife of the BBC controller was a big Dalek fan and so the command for "more Daleks" came down from on high.
It stemmed from the internal Programme Review Board meeting on 26 May 1965, a few days after The Chase had started on television. In discussing the episode Huw Wheldon (the BBC's Television Managing Director) said that every effort should be made to include more of the Daleks in the series. This was noted by Sydney Newman who requested, via the Head of Serials, Gerald Savory, that the new Dalek story planned to go into production should be expanded from six episodes to twelve.
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You meant to say, "the 1964 prop" not "the 1984 prop." And why are you showing a photo of Tom Baker as a character, I think you said, "Pigpin Josh," in "The Claws of Axis?" Tom Baker was not in the "Claws of Axos" or any Dr. Who until he was cast in the title role replacing Jon Pertwee. Pigpin Josh was actually played by stuntman Derek Ware.
The prop was used originally in an adaptation of George Orwell's '1984' so therefore its correct to say 'the 1984 prop'. The Tom Baker image is joke.
The earliest storyline I have ever seen for DMP featuring Banhoong was already 12 episodes long, not six.
DARDIS might not be canon, but Iâm always going to believe that Brett is actually The Brigadier on a secret mission and his âdeathâ was all a ruse. đ
1. Ncuti is the 15th Doctor
2. The Doctor doesnât have an âappearanceâ he has a companion
Great video, but I think it's a bit sad that you use the term "UK theatres" when you mean "UK cinemas". Why do that? A UK theatre is where you go to see a play not a film.
Please don't try to be American. There is nothing wrong with using British English.
Completely agree!
When really it's The Pictures;)
@@hgwells1899 I stand corrected :)
For what it's worth, my local theatre does actually show old films in the evenings when no plays are currently open.
Im not surprised that the bbc deliberately sabotaged another series. It seems typical of the sort of infighting, childishness and jealousy that still exists.
Please don't ever use emojis again.
Excellent work, as ever. Also 0:46 Pilot E95s
Thank you!