Lamello's Zeta P2 and P System Connectors
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- I get a ton of questions about the Lamelo Zeta P2 joiner and theP System connectors that I used in my Media Console build • Mid Century Modern Med... and my Kitchen Cabinet build • How To Make Frame-less... videos. Hopefully this will fully answer any questions you may have. If it doesn't, please ask!
You can also learn more about this sytem at Lamello USA - www.csaw.com/lamello
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Thanks, Guy, for taking the time in putting together such a well thought out and explained video!
Glad it was helpful!
When I saw your video pop up in my feed I was very happy then I saw it was not a furniture build video and it was disappointing. I am really missing your great furniture projects . I think I have watched all your videos a couple of times now. You do such great work please make more videos. Hope you are well.
I have not really built anythingin my shop in a while. Making a lot at my day job though...
You really inspire me with your woodworking skills. Can you film at your day job? Is the business yours or do you work for someone else?
@@davecurda2350 I workfor someone else, so no video taping there. Sorry!
Very Good explanation. I ordered a Lomello 2 wks ago. Excited to get it for some upcoming projects
You do the BEST demos and explanations Thanks Guy
Awesome, thank you!
Hey David how much was it ???
Guy, thanks; I am looking into getting another Lamello machine after 30 years of a TopTen with now a limited supply of parts for such an old machine. Your presentation is clear and easy
to understand and that is good for us to see. There is really not that much difference in the upper models costs as I can see. My business is wood products and furniture from solid woods
in the higher end make. Chicago
Sounds great!
Thanks for putting this together, Guy. Great explanation of the different connectors and their required settings. Now you need to do an expert level one on angled butt/miterjoinery - that always has me scratching my head.
You're welcome!
Great video Guy! I can't wait to get my hands on one of these awesome machines.
You should!
Well done Guy. Called Colonial Saw today and ordered some of those Flexus connectors and the Wheel of Fortune (was not included in the older Zeta P2 machines)
Thanks! I've used that wheel a few times,and it's handy to have whenyou need it.
Cool system, Guy. I especially like the tenso fittings
Hey Charlie! It is an amazing system. You shlould take a look at the video I did making a flat pack media center with it. czcams.com/video/EFp10zMzsGw/video.html
Guy great video. Hope you do a couple more that show different applications and tricks using this tool. Still leaning, but really like this mine so far.
Ya never know!
Good stuff Guy! That's a nice little machine you have there.
Thanks! I seem to keep finding uses for it all the time!
Great! now the user view of the solution looks so pleasant.
Yes, it is!
@@GuysShop Would you be interested in working with us?
Looks like a very cool setup
Way cool!
Awesome video, can’t wait until I can justify the need for this awesome machine.
Good luck!
Great info. Hope you're doing well. Keep up the great vids.
Thanks, will do!
Thanks Guy! Been waiting for this one from ya. Have always been interested in the system since you first posted about it. Would like to use it on outdoor projects, for Azek decking joints. Clearly looks like the access hole for the key is bigger than their plug holes. I'm sure something could be figured out though.
Noted!
Great video with information that is exactly what is required to understand what the Lamello can actually do. I have considered buying one of these, but as a retired hobbyist, in Aus they cost over $2,000, so I will just have to make do with the Festool domino for the time being.
Dig it!
I would suggest also considering just a normal biscuit jointer from Lamello as they can do really accurate easy joints.
The festool domino can sometimes be a little bit too much hard work when doing cabinets.
You make it look so useful, it has become very tempting to get one. Next kitchen build, i'll cost in a Lamelo 😂👍
That's always a great way to bring in new tools/equipment
Excellent lesson 👍
Best tutorial about Zeta P2
Thanks so much!
Very cool gear. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Excellent video!
Glad you liked it!
Thanks...nicely made video!
Clear presentations😃
Awesome video ❤❤❤
Glade your back
Thanks!
The simplicity of the design is fascinating! i was waiting for a tension test, the material is plastic so you have to wonder how sturdy is it.
Great point!
They have their weight capacities listed on their website.
Amazing tool.
Hello guy, another great video. This is off topic, but I seem to remember a video on your technique for joining beveled edges with the domino, but I cannot find the video. Thanks.
One of the best videos on this tool. Peter Millard's is also good. There is a learning curve for this machine. Lamello makes it look sooo easy, it isn't. Definitely practice with it first. Also I didn't realize the fence isn't a geared pinion system like most traditional biscuits joiners. Harder to get to exact center, so remembering indexed face you are working from necessary. Also narrow pieces, need to use the domino or you come out the sides.
Thanks for the info!
@@GuysShop i know you know all this. 🙂Its the other potential buyers I was giving a heads up to.
Well done!
Thanks!
Great video
Awesome video! Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
thanks.now i wil take it.great.
Hi thanks for sharing the very interesting video. Stay safe.
Thanks, you too!
Great video Guys. I looked into that system 2 years ago at the woodworking show and loved it then but for a hobey guy like me not worth the price tag but for a person running a business maybe. Still a great system
Right on
I personally started to allow me to spend more money for my hobbies because it’s hobby saying to myself it’s an invest in my personal pleasure (meaning lot’s of things I made would have been less expensive by just buying it, but the pleasure I have during I build those things are my „target“ ;)
WIth one lamello machine you could cover your workshop, kitchen, living room, hallways, bedrooms and bathroom in cabinets.
Get a professional out to do that and it will cost a lot more than the machine.
would you use this machine with chipboard core?
Great video thanks
Would like to see a video of attaching face frames to cabinet box for inset cabinets, thanks
Thank you very much !
ps is that poplar plywood you used at 6.30??
I have missed seeing your vids after I binged the rest :D Really nice and informative video. Are you getting some time to do projects in the garage, or is the work at Purposeful Design taking all your time and energy? Cheers. G.
Day job really takes alot of my timeand energy.
Who the F will put thumbs down for this great video !!! Keep the good work
Good question!
We miss you sir
I just found your channel and I love it! I noticed you haven’t made a video in a year. Have you quit CZcams? I sure hope not!
From 30 years of TopTen I must ask if you have noticed the need to lube the slides on your newer model just about every time you use it? My machine is in good condition because I lube the slides all the time and I can feel the resistance in the action if it needs some lube.
I do use a silicone spray when I feel it getting a little tight
Does Lamello make a systainer to hold all the fastener types?
They sure do!
Might be a stupid question...but can the new Flexus P14 / Medius P10 replace all non Tenso lamello ?
All the different connectors have their place. The Flexus really shines for adding shelves and the
tenso is great for self clamping joints
Thanks for sharing tthat
My pleasure!!
it is now available in a cordless version for about $400 more, if you were to purchase one today, would you still buy the corded version? i have used a lamello biscuit joiner for over 30 years now, great product.
I would just get the one with a cord since it would be hooked up to dust collection.
@@GuysShop that was my thought and i would be using it exclusively in my garage shop, not in the field. thanks for your response and Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Great video Guy as always. I bought one these a couple of years ago after watching you use it in a project and watching it on a couple of other channels. I remember thinking that I learned more about the machine from you than I did from the manufacturer’s videos as well as the distributors videos. I think they forget that many times someone looking at their videos are new to that particular piece of equipment. You must have been a teacher in a former life because you break things down quickly and make it easy to follow and understand. And I still managed to learn a few things so thank you!
And on the subject of learning things.... do you have a video out on the Powermatic Bandsaw that was in the background? I have a probably 18 year old 18” Jet bandsaw with the steel spine and have been thinking about upgrading to the 18 or 20 inch Powermatic unit you have. Mainly for two reasons.... the ability to quickly release blade tension and the guides on your bandsaw are a much better quality than the ones on my Jet. And I haven’t been able to locate a quick release tension kit or upgraded guides. If you have a video please provide the link.... and if you don’t can you do one on the bandsaw when time permits???
Thanks Guy
I always enjoy your videos!
Ron
Thanks so much Ron! And yes, thesere is a video on the PM1500 bandsaw on my channel.
Thanks
Welcome
Hay Guy...Good to SeeYa back on CZcams
Good to be back!
👍🏻
Thanks!
I noticed you never tried to wobble the pieces when you joined them and said it is very strong joint. I purchased this machine and yesit is strong if you try to pull apart but there is a little movement from side to side when you pull push a little. So what that for the Lamello sales? should be honest a bit more
On a side note, using a little paste wax helps with the Divario's.
Great tip. Thanks!!
Where do you put the paste wax? On the Divaro connector or on the wood?
@@ronh9384 in the groove of the panel. I just use a small brush.
good mashine
💪
Thanks!
I just found your channel and I love it! But I noticed you haven’t made any new videos in a year! Have you quit CZcams? I sure hope not!
Blows my mind that this tool cost more than a Festool Domino. Cool system though.
Yes, it may be. However it has its place in the shop, and I am damn glad I have it available if the solution fits
It costs loads it's true. When it arrived I was so excited and then it takes a bit of getting used to but this thing is just amazing.
You can make very precise connections but what's beautiful is even if you are fractionally misaligned it'll still work great. You can clamp your pieces together with the clamax and they'll slide sideways following a gentle tap. Mind-blowing!
You can put your furniture together, take it apart and put it together on site again and they'll still work like new.
Most importantly, they'll let you work on your own most of the time.
I'll never go back. This has let me move onto the next level. It's a pleasure to work with and you get a perfectly square, neat and stable build.
Guy you have hackers reaching out to your subs as you. report them
Thanks so much for the heds up!
Good and practical. But TOO expensive. Far too expensive.
It really isnt for the hobby woodworker, but for professional work.
@@GuysShop
Bonjour.
Merci pour votre réponse. Je m'interroge néanmoins.
J'ai travaillé en 43 ans, sur des milliers de chantiers, j'ai livré toutes sortes de chantiers, des ateliers d'agencement, des menuiseries professionnelles de toutes tailles, des scieries, des usines...
Par ailleurs, j'admire les artisans du tiers-monde qui realisent des choses somptueuses avec des outils peu chers.
Mais... mais... mais...
Je n'ai jamais vu autant de jouet bling-bling couteux (Zeta, Festool, Maffel, Sawstop, Felder...) que chez les CZcamsurs.
Je préfère de loin le travail et le résultat au vidéo publicitaire d'outillage.
cordialement.
@@GuysShop
Hello.
Thank you for your reply. I wonder nonetheless. I have worked in 43 years, on thousands of sites, I have delivered all kinds of sites, fitting workshops, professional joinery of all sizes, sawmills, factories ...
Besides, I admire the craftsmen of the Third World who make sumptuous things with inexpensive tools.
But ... but ... but ...
I have never seen so many expensive bling-bling toys (Zeta, Festool, Maffel, Sawstop, Felder ...) as among CZcamsrs.
I much prefer the work and the results to the tooling video advertising.
cordially.
@@philippegraipin772
I think the hobby types on youtube that have $20000 worth of equipment is money well spent if they have it to spare.
It is better for those with the money to spend it on good tools that they use rather than spending it on a gucci bag or putting it up their nose at the weekend.
@@bighands69 🇺🇸
Hello.
Thank you for your sincere comment. The problem of the Western consumer is to be deeply materialistic. On CZcams, around wood or DIY, there are two main families:
1) DIY enthusiasts who focus on their machines, their workshops, improving their tools, their methods ... them. Of commercial worthy.
2) DIY enthusiasts who show what they are doing with their tools, without focusing on these tools.
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Excuse me, with $ 20,000, we buy wood. Unfortunately, DIY enthusiasts 1, make broom cupboards, garden tables, the dog kennel or the bedroom nightstand.
That's kind of what I see with huge American kitchens, in home improvement TV shows ... making popcorn, grilled marshmallow, pancackes or burgers.
The Western consumer (the same as Gucci clothes) is incorrigible. He has a buying fever. He is stronger than him, he needs to be reassured by spending.
This Western consumer is hypersensitive to the flattery of salespeople who keep telling him that he is a PROFESSIONAL, that he is worth it, that he deserves it, that this machine is essential to him (until the next).
The truth ? There are no bad tools, there are only bad workers.
Herewith, some videos which force my admiration. I hope you like it.
Cordially.