The Positive Feedback Loop of Misery
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"You are right, life has no value... if you think only of yourself".
Ive never ever heard anyone say that sin means split here in germany. Spalten means split.
Spirituality can be alot of stuff not always God,jesus Holy Spirit believe me
Hello, hope you are well. Hope you find this information useful Sin from the book, 'Ancient Hebrew lexicon of the Bible Hebrew letters, words and roots defined within their ancient cultural context' Jeff A Benner 2005.
Quick overview (I know little so check with your pastor or someone versed in this) Ancient Hebrew worked in concrete expression via the 5 senses (p11). There are many ways it is seen
Sin, as a letter is shaped like a thorn - to pierce/sharp or something that clings to like a thorn in your foot.
P121 Sin: to paraphrase, 'to use a cord to measure how far off the mark one is'.
P193 it refers to a turning on in the inside
P388 Sin in a different context - a net.
Many other ways than this and I would recommend that book if you are curious about stuff like this - though it is dense and needs careful application
@@alienfetus4 Hello, hope you are well. Since the ancient Hebrews have no 'concrete' sense for emotional feelings they used what was reflective of it. So anger is reflected in the nostrils. The phrase slow to anger can be translated as slow to nostril in the literal sense. Missing the target is how we feel when we fall short or fail so I believe that is why they used it. In this case to fall short of the standard God set. Just double check that though and I hope this helps
Sounds like Voldemort who split his soul to become immortal where the soul is split when killing someone.
The etymology of Sünde isn't clear, I heard it is related to absondern, but anybody's guess
Thank you 😊
Misery is the result of the construction of a self separate from the divine core that gives life and wisdom -- that was the nature of the fall as outlined in Genesis
Actually it's being self-conscious that makes you miserable, not the other way around. Small complaint but I felt it needed to be said.
It's probably two things that increase each other like a vicious cycle which is hard to break
being self conscious is not just hateing yourself it is fixing the problems you have so that you can help others fix thoses same problems
you notice the error and try to point out where they went wrong
Yup
I believe it’s both ways. Like the two sides of the same coin
Isn't it wonderful, how God is gathering his people (warriors) together, love it! Praise God!!
Sin is "missing the mark".
i dont know the etymology of the word "sin", but in greek sin is "αμαρτια" which indeed means to miss the mark.
Right. He was talking about where the English word came from.
Thinking about others over yourself will make you happy and not miserable. It’s selflessness that makes one fulfilled. That’s why when I bless other people through encouragement and motivation or monetarily or through small gifts that would make them smile, the more I am blessed, even if I don’t have much to give! And that’s the kind of love that God wants us to share!
What you mean is service to the higher good and keeping our promises to God.
2:15 🔥 woah
Damn!
1:16 xD Love you Doctor Peterson. :)
The Hebrew word for sin is chate literally mistake
*reads header
Yeah, but I'm only miserable because I'm so self-conscious.
And again, it‘s just about social control and social conditioning.
I personally think, we are at a point in time, where it is absolutely necessary to abolish organized religion, in favor of freedom for personal growth. Even belief is a personal matter and needs no institution to be validated. Most people today are able to read, understand and interpret texts, there is absolutely no need for supervised believing.
It‘s just weird to have to pay respect to an institution like the Roman Catholic Church, when the persons in charge aren’t even able to punish/ exclude pedophile priests from church service, while claiming the moral high ground and having the audacity to frown upon so called sinners.
The wages of sin is death.
Truth? I believe so Jorden.
Although, the 'church' (Christianity) has misrepresented the truth for the longest time. This has left the world without true spiritual well-being.
All this is coming to the awareness of the world now. Even the Pope has had to speak of it, although not in a way that reveals the guilt of 'the church'.
As long as we are not bound to any specific religion, then we live as we should and our spiritual well-being can come to the fore.
Perhaps we must forgo religion itself and seek spirituality according to the individuals choice.
There is no religion that is higher than the truth.
Free to live it, to speak it and share it.
I wonder if our governments will choose it, or be compelled (bound/religion) to live/act/speak accordingly?
The truth isn't enough. Your life is too short to figure out the truth, this is why we start with what religion has to offer. It's what our ancestors thought is the truth and was tested by a thousand generations.
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2:16 But contributing to social structures and their actions on you includes significant burden. According to birth rates and the state of the family, they represent burdens deemed unprofitable all too often. The posited benefit 2:41 is nebulous and unlikely to be convincing. The miserable may be self-conscious, but this probably makes them more accurate accountants of the burdens and profits of contributing to higher social structures. Their calculus may provide clues as to how to create better social structures and perhaps its also worth asking whether we can have less misery around - it sounds like that may benefit social structures.
Can't define the whole thing based on terminology. Is it a western one?
Without terminology you can't discuss it at all but only repeat phrases without generating knowledge
Being miserable is a lack of having the conscious realization of one's divine nature. It's not related to religion in any way, for religion is a trap, keeps one small, insignificant, and looking for a savior when, in fact, you are the savior.
Pain is necessary for growth.
There is no coming to consciousness without pain.
We are all the Christ.
Beautifully said 👏
savior oh whom?
I hear you 😊
Except we’re not
Yea that's the message of zen bhuddism. I really like that idea.
A doctor who doesn't know himself?????
Politics and church don't mix together
So what are you people talking about?
What are They talking about?Sin is a form of psychological separation from life and leads to mental illness. It quickly leads to conflict of interest and confrontation. Nothing wrong with self will but it has to be balanced with unselfishness. When you think about learning you are being unselfish because someone else is giving you the knowledge?Just because one comprehends knowledge doesn't mean you own other people's idea. I am seeing plagiarism all the time. Our present knowledge is dependent on the past discoveries but we have also conditioned others in past corrupt behavior as well.
Peterson and most Catholics are persistently talking about hierarchies and democracy is anti hierarchical. It's equally based and Its closer to the truth then not. Does someone who has more money more important than a scholar? No. But people are conditioned to listen to rich people because They own the platform. The intelligent people are discriminated against precisely because business people aren't intellectuals by nature. So you live under a form of dictatorship. The Catholic church is a business and Its a corporate hierarchy that hasn't changed for hundreds of years.
Says a man with so much gold that is valued ( the priest in the middle)
Would it be more accurate to say being self-conscious makes you miserable?
No
@Anotherclevername20 pretty sure that was what he was saying in the video.
Anglo meritocracy requires that we act contractually as individuals which is innately self conscious..
We are born into this against our will
True. We absolutely don't want to be ignorant, blundering around without thought for our actions. But we also can't be so laser focused on ourselves that we don't see everyone else, that's not productive at all. There's a balance to be struck.
@INGENFORHANDLING
Natural selection is competition which is of the animal kingdom..
Accept the cooperation offered by God
Really like your comment. I blame protestantism lol
I must admit, hearing the men in religious suits talk has me shutting down.
Because they know less than the actual Christian to the left. The two on the right are ideological zealots who repeat talking points and cliches, whereas Peterson actively engages scripture and life, and its accompanying struggle. The first guy wanted to say something esoteric and fuzzy in order to sound deep, whereas Peterson eschewd sounding deep so that he could talk about substance.
I’m an atheist with respect to dogma (I don’t believe in a deity or the religious narrative of Jesus), but I’m a huge fan of Peterson, who is probably the greatest well-known example of lived (not proclaimed and sloganized, but lived) Christianity. He is the Jesus to these men’s Pharisitical establishment. He’s the flesh and blood real deal…not a cardboard cutout. People listen to him because he speaks truth, not establishment virtue narratives. It’s the same thing that set Jesus apart from his narrative contemporaries.
Don’t judge a book by its cover. Dig deeper …if you dare.
@@rocky4976 It’s because I have done the digging deeper that I have this inclination. God exists, but the robe-clad type are sooner a misrepresentation than truth.
How can these men claim to be intellectuals and are still debating whether or not there is a god in the sky somewhere.
Magical thinking
Cringe
I couldn't find the part in the video where they do that
I think the necessity for God comes from the unfathomable responsibility that is being put on the hands of the Human-kind. Responsibility for own selves. I feel the upcoming centuries for humanity will be at the manner of a Rite Passage, from the infantile need of Celestial Parents, now we must be the parents. And as a rite passage, our pain will be intolerable to the point of annihilation, with the hope of resucitating back like the Christ, or the Phoenix. The none-sense on all these debates reveals a deeper motivation for answers, for planning, for understanding and love.
@@idratherstayanonimous7020 I don't think there is a necessity for God.
God was discovered. It's something like existence or life itself. Everything else like Jesus, values, commandments were discovered as well and are subordinate to God. They are the way to have a meaningful life.
The deity in the sky should be nonsense even to the most religious people.
God is elohim God is not jesus or the spirit , Elohim is E.T. , Dannette in jordan previous interview explain the religious spirit scientifically you dont need religion to explain morality over the past 2000 years, paul wallis at the 5th kind Explaines translation errors in christans/chatholic bible's transcription of the scriptur ie genesis ect and does not include some scriptur ie Enoch , the dead sea scrolls , also christainity/chatholic faith has been shaped by not only judaisum but also zorastrian ( the guy more then the religon ) usefulcharts just did a video on that.
im hear for you there here for what they can get from you
you have to fix your own problems before you know how or can fix other peoples problems
being self conscious is not just hateing yourself it is fixing the problems you have so that you can help others fix thoses same problems
you notice the error and try to point out where they went wrong
I don’t believe it was the lack of an all meat diet…
I do believe Jordan speaks out from fear, not necessarily bravery.
…but, he seems afraid of the right things.
(Feel free and judge me.)
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Hard to argue against something so vague.
@@Robert-ob1mp Yeah..“something imperceptible” they say, or sow I here.🤷♂️
(But, you didn’t hear that from me.)
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@@Robert-ob1mp Jordan peterson does fear god and that’s probably a good thing. I don’t know why OP was so weird in saying that lol.
We all have fears, don't we?
Some keep us stuck, but others keep us alive.
I don't think fear takes you so long... My opinion.
Would Jordan Peterson do everything he does and and say everything he says out of fear?
Would this be the force that moves him?
I think it's something more complex than that.
Total garbage. How dare you!
Stop impersonating Dr. Peterson with this page that uses the exact same profile picture Dr. Peterson uses.
I’ve reported you to CZcams, writing therein:
This user should be banned from copying and using the same “profile image” that the real Jordan Peterson account uses; it’s a form of deception, impersonating someone famous. I myself took many weeks or months to recognize that I was watching 2 separate channels. User adds links to real JP “socials”
This is his official clips channel.
@@TheHtRay meaning what, exactly?
@@TheHtRay I don’t see any sign of “official”.
@@WilliamCantSingAtAll you're delusional
Interesting topic. Knowledgeable people as far as i'm concerned. But my god, Peterson rambles on like no other. It's very tiresome to listen to. Simplicity really is tkey for a good speaker.
These are complex concepts, its hard to summarize thousands of years of parables, stories, and tradition into a few sentences, if u can’t keep up try atheism