The Secrets of She-Ra! Her sword, her kidnapping and how she would have been in the 200X series
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- Scott Toy Guru Neitlich turns the spotlight on She Ra answering a ton of questions about her cloned (???) sword, why and how she was kidnnapped and how she might have made it into the 200X series had the rights been available. Our favorite non-Disney princess is here. Comes with our highest possible recommendation!
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Man, I must have watched "Secret of the Sword" hundreds of times when I was a kid. Wore a hole in the VHS tape! Even today I could probably recite half the lines from that one.
One of the best animated movies of the 80's if not all time
@@spectorcreative1872 A boxoffice comparison between Secret of the Sword and live action Masters of the Universe might be an interesting subject. I certainly saw both in the theater.
@@lucasbachmann It's an intersting pairing: on the one hand, the live action ( which originally would have featured She-Ra, & William Stout's design for her is something else... should've been in the movie lol ) made more gross, at 17million versus the animated's 7million, HOWEVER, the animated was much more of a success: for one thing, back then, animated movies seldom made mega money unless they were Disney or Warner Brothers: but, also, the net of the animated was FAR better, since the live action had coust 22 million and had a net loss, while the animated He-Man & She-Ra movie, the only theatrical movie either cartoon ever directly produced, made over 3.5 times it's 2million dollar production budget.
Same here...lol
Great video. It's nice to learn more about the history of He-man and She-ra, along with their swords and powers. I really hope that He-man and She-ra can be reunited in media someday.
You and me both!
Me too.
Thank you, for bringing back memories… I’ll always cherish She Ra as part of my 80s childhood.
Thank you for the She-ra videos. I love her story, and the cartoon was my childhood. She's amazing.
Glad you liked, she is a favorite of mine too
Love these videos Scott. Keep it up.
As long as you keep watching them!
Thank You for clearing this up at the End.
You are most welcome!
I cannot lie. I have NEVER been a fan of She-Ra, but it has been interesting ( as an adult ) to learn about the plot of it. The concept of the Bad Guys being in charge, and She-Ra leading a rebellion against them is very cool, and STAR WARS-esque. I never knew anything about POP until a few years ago.
That said, I did buy a Sea Hawk figure from Classics, because....hey....he looks cool, and he's a Pirate!!
Ummmm yeah. Pirate.
HE-MAN and SHE-RA must be reunited because it is so sad that brother and sister cannot be together as a family.
Alas: czcams.com/video/BLiogQTyIAI/video.html
EXACTLY!! It's an outrage that the companies and studios are behaving just like Hordak & Skeletor did in the original minicomics/shows, separating the twins: the further irony is that the character of Hordak himself has actually been the MAIN figure holding the separated franchise together, since he keeps returning as a MAJOR antagonist in reboots, from the 2002 Cartoon Network version, to the 2016 She-Ra reboot, and probably also in the new Revelations reboot, and he is pretty consistently recognizable in each adaptation.
Thank you for another great video on She-Ra. Can you do one on the Star Sisters and Whispering Woods Playset that never made it into production?
OH that is coming!
I guess it because I was able to follow She-Ras origin story when I was a kid. Always more ofa She-Ra fan than He-Man
I liked She Ra more than He-Man
Good stuff as always.
So glad you continue to enjoy!@ Tell your friends!
The comics shown in this video, where are they from? I’d love to read them. I read all the DC comics continuity and loved it.
It was a series that ran in the mid 90's. Check your local comic store!
I always felt like the sword of protection should have been He-Man’s, since he protects Eternia from Skeletor, while SheRa was actually intended to get the sword of power as she was destined to wage a war, but somehow in a twist of fate the two were switched. Weird, pointless theory, but that’s what happens when you think about this stuff.
She-Ra's sword is vastly more sophisticated in practice. It shape-shifts into whatever she needs. And she has telepathy and equal strength.
Well what is in a name. Unless it is Throckmorton
Spector Creative nomen est omen...the name of an object conveys its nature
He-man got there first... i actually preferred him with the Axe.. I read somewhere that in the 2002 show he was gonna lose the sword and be He-man permanently. And use the axe.
I didn’t care for She-Ra in the 80s, but I enjoy it as an adult. In some ways, it’s a more refined and sophisticated show than MOTU.
The best is hopefully yet to come
Great videos as per usual. But two questions.
1. We never got to hear how the Sword of protection came about.
2. Instead of letting Skeletor be able to cross that wall from the dark hemisphere, why not let Hordak do a short run-in ? I mean he could easily have escaped Despondos for a short time (Like Skeletor did with the Dark Hemisphere wall), and by doing that, it could have tied in better with Filmation as well.
But hey, there are probably a great explanation to this :)
1: The Sword of Protection was magically cloned fro the Sword of Power
2: Hordak was stuck in another dimension, nut just behind the wall.
I thought she didn't have that gun and holster in the show, but there it is plain as day.
Once you see it you can' un see it
Like the video. I did kind of squint and roll my eyes at the "Battle Armor" Skeletor wore to get through the wall, but all in all great video, plausible explanation.
Well that was established years ago in the Battle Armor Skeletor bio!
Thanks for the re-upload. You keep my driving commutes entertaining.
Same. I listen to these while I drive back and forth from work.
Hope the audio was better in the re load!
Good stuff! Thank you!
Welcome as always Beedo!
To quote you earlier this month, “The Convoluted is convoluted.”
Couldn’t have put it better myself!
I should put that on a shirt
@@spectorcreative1872 do it!
Just found your channel and been going through all your videos.
That's the weay to do it! We have a ton of good stuff. Be sure to share on social media with your friends. It helps the channel a ton
I always enjoy your videos. Still waiting on that Battle Lion Story though don't forget 😆. Also curious to know what is the relationship between Shadow Weaver and Castispella the episode where Castispella brings Prince Adam from Eternia to Etheria via a magic water pool it seems they have known each other a very longtime or something and were either friends or related maybe sisters ?
Oh Battle Lion will be coming. I am going in release order!
@@spectorcreative1872 great i look forward to that. I just picked up MOTU Origins He-Man, Battle Cat, Skeletor, Panthor, Prince Adam and Sky Sled. I'd really like a figure of King Grayskull and Battle Lion if you can help me id very much appreciate it thanks
Commented on this video before you redid it. Wanted to say thanks again for history I've missed out on. Knew of despara from seeing the figure but didn't know it was She-ra. Was it a mask she wore? Love all your content here your the man. Liked again👍
Thank you for the redo like and comment! It is most appreciated. I wanted to reupload and fix the sound ASAP. But it does mean older comments get deleted too. Arg.
The Despara face is indeed a mask. She takes it off in MOTUC mini comic # 6.
Really want to have some sort of story on where the gem came from. I've rewatched a lot of she-ra stuff and everything about her seems to be about that gem and it seems really different in a lot of ways from the other sword and the power of greyskull. I feel like it probably has a different origin all together ,or it feels like it should.
There is an uncut version here on CZcams and it’s definitely noticeable as to where the differences are
There should be just one version now. I deleted the previous one. (I hope it worked right!)
@@spectorcreative1872 are you talking about secret of the sword or this video? I saw the spot for the other video
These are cool vids. I didn't know all the details before. What would an independent company do to get an action figure created, similar to the 2000X toy line?
I imagine it would have a new interpretation and design
It seems so complicated to justify Adora being raised by the Horde in Classics. At least it resulted in a new figure from it.
Yeah, tying in ALL the storylines together wasn't really neat, but if it resulted in more toys, well that was the goal
Interesting video as usual, though I'd have liked for you to go into more detail about her sword, how it was made (essentially, unless I missed something, you just said he-man's sword was cloned as there were twins, which doesn't tell us much about the How's, when's and what's) the differences between it and the "real" sword and how it came into her possession
I can lways do a follow up!
@@spectorcreative1872 pretty please? Found you a week ago. Have a had a great time thinking about toys I lost 35 years ago.
Can you talk about the She-ra ax/comb and why its also in the Galoob She-ra knock off golden girl. Did you also work for Galloob?
No, I never worked for Galoob, and as far as the Golden Girl relationship see these videos: czcams.com/video/GOONTAqPhjU/video.html
and for the comb: czcams.com/video/rKSyY235MCY/video.html
I had the battle armor He-man. I also had one that used the old pop caps that you would put in the toy guns but can't find a lot of info on that one?
That was Thunder Punch He Man! His video will be coming in due time.
@@spectorcreative1872 Honestly that was my favorite toy. Although the caps didn't last long haha
I know this is a complete coincidence, but this new storyline sounds exactly like the one conceived for the live action Metal Hero sentai series Jikuu Senshi Spielban. Spielban's father and sister were kidnapped by his enemies, the Waller Empire, when he was young, and so when he faces his sister Helen as an adult, she turns into a dangerously superpowered villain called Hellvira. There's even a motif in this show where their father has been trying to keep the two apart because they're both strong enough to kill each other without knowing they are siblings!
I've never heard of that series. I'll need to look it up. So yes, I will chalk this up to a combo of coincidence and Joseph Campbell thematic siilarities
Somehow I like the idea of skelletor stealing some of the mystic powers from the sourceress and infuse a baby (which is a younger version of her).
This way he does not need to break the resistance of the original and can rise his own bride.
It fits to a muscular skelleton to play around with soul magic.
He may even drop the idea to marry her and instead made her his own champion.
Well she is his sister...
@@spectorcreative1872 Oh, I thought they were unrelated. But now that you mentioned it, they bot can concentrate under pressure and stay calm.
That explained why he can not simply force her.
I really like these He-Man stories. They're pretty good.
Just like Crispy Puffs!
The old She Ra is a lot better than the DreamWorks she ra.
Can't disagree!
@@spectorcreative1872 Well, I can. The Dreamworks one gave the characters....well, character. Glimmer and Bow actually had a purpose, and not 'look, another toy!'. Them and the other characters were developed a lot better I feel. Plus no secret identity nonsense, I am so glad that concept was dropped. And it's nice to see characters not having the same faces and bodies amongst them. But that's just me.
I like the Dreamworks a lot more.
The cloning, the purple monster, the Goddess. And all this disappeared.
Masters Of The Universe has the most convoluted development award! Next to The Transformers with its UK/US timeline which got really crazy as the Marvel UK issues had to wreathe around the US strip and connect the two continuities. By 1987 this went off the road and there were major continuity errors such as Megatron being found in London in 1987 but by 1989 in his return in the US the London incident turned into a cloned Megatron being found because he wasn’t alive in the US comic when the UK writer Simon Furman took over in 1989. It was a real ‘issue’ in the final years of the Transformers Marvel UK comic. It’s still easily though the greatest run of Transformers stories to date, lasting 332 issues from 1984-1992.
Oh convoluted is only the first of it! Even the convoluted is convoluted
We're the twiggets planned during the classics run.seems like that one part of she ra toywise is the missing piece to many.
I love the original Filmation She-Ra series, but always felt it was odd that no one really said "Wait, she was a force captain, and now she is leading the rebellion?" It just seemed like a missed story opportunity not bringing it up every so often that even though she had been lied to, she was one of the oppressive forces that caused the rebellion.
Hey people switch sides all the time. Benedict Arnold?
In Secret of the Sword it was revealed that Adora was not only raised by the Horde, but also kept under mind control spells cast by Shadow Weaver. The spell was broken by the Sword of Protection and when Adora was able to control her thoughts and feelings for herself she saw how evil the Horde really was and sided with the Rebellion.
How would u clone a sword, would that infer that the swords would have to be alive first or something I mean u can forge a sword in the same power and shape but that’s not cloning right?
I don't know? How do green tiger's talk?
Did Randor, or Marlena ever mention her before they introduced her???? (I don’t remember them ever telling Adam)
See the Secret of the Sword movie!
Thanks for enlighten me up on her story on 200x i really wish mattel can brought back her together with MOtu they really need her if they are going to make it in cartoons and probably boost sales with that,great show or media will probably do that and please mattel dont do store exclusives make all the toyline availble for all,not all countries have walmart,target stores and not all can do access on global shipping some are in the mercy of resellers and scalpers
Oh yes, international is a whole issue all together:
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I noticed in the POP series She-Ra's sword granted her more powers. I thought it was understandable, as she probably was not as strong as He-Man. Then in multiple episodes, she saved He-Man, she appeared stronger than him and not seem to be exhausted as easily, can communicate with animals, healing powers, and her sword can become whatever she wants, the jewel allows interdimensional communication.
He-Man has been known to use the Coridite crystal to enhance his strength, it is unknown if She-Ra uses it herself, but again she seems stronger than him regardless.
He-Man's sword which combined with the Sword of the Ancients did not seem to have enhanced his power sword at all. The only weakness for She-Ra's sword was if the jewel was damaged, then she cannot transform to She-Ra.
I will get to a video on the stone in She-Ra's sword and her additional powers soon!
@@spectorcreative1872 Looking forward to it.
I have a question, how can the Netflix show reference Eternia? Are the worlds' rights separated from the characters?
Eternia was created by Donald Glut for the original mini comics. Anything that is toy or mini comics is fair game
@@spectorcreative1872 Ohhhh, thanks for the answer!!!!
Two things...
Was Shadowweaver meant to be an evil or rouge Trollan?
When I saw the Secret of the two swords and She-Ra comes to the rebelcamp the witchlady say "Welcome to the right side, dear!"
Yes, because in a conflict there is allways a right side and a wrong side.
I don't think anyone (not even Hitler) think they work for the wrong side.
It's only the winner who say they are the Good Guys and the losers in the war was Evil.
Does the mythos ever explain how the jewel in her sword came to Eterina? I know it was the first ones on Etheria who created it and was able to fix the crack in.
It was needed for the cloning process. It was a magic stone the Sorceress had in her supplies.
The First Ones didn't even fix it. It went like
Adora: "Can you guys fix my sword?"
First Ones: "You showed many heroic qualities in your journey to get here. And proved that being a hero was always you and not just she-ra. Now raise your sword."
Adora: "But you guys haven't done anything." [Looks at sword] *magically fixed*
In the He Man toys, Skeletor had half the sword. You could just make it, hers it the other half to He Man's sword she got from Hordak, taken from Skeletor.
That could have been one way to tackle it for sure. Combining a lot of story elements was not exactly a walk in the park!
Dude!!!! This was freaking awesome!!!! I realllllly wished they put their BULLSH*T aside for 200X for season 4. I loved it and was constantly waiting for them to drop season 4 and they never did... Ppl are the worst
Would have been sweet!
I have a question. So the sword of protection is a clone of the sword of power. I have no problem with it, but why have the 2 different powers ? After all, the sword of protection can change shape and has healing properties, while the power sword seems only give He Man limitless super force
The stone gives it different transforming powers.
My kids (male and female, 8-9) got origins figures for Christmas. Boy was excited and wanted the girl characters if his sister didn't want them. Daughter kept them but didn't take interest until seeing me work on a custom of myself using broken vintage figs. Subject of She Ra came up after she ripped her Teela open. She was skeptical hearing He-Man having a sister. I looked up the vintage She-Ra and the Pink Battle Cat. She replied "that's not He-Man". Was too Barbie for her, but she said maybe without the doll hair.............I personally never hated even back in the day as there were so many figures for anyones taste. Far more than my allowance would get me. Teela was on my list
Funny cause I need to raid her old Barbie stuff for glasses for my custom fig
Thst is a great story. Keep em coming!
I like to imagine if there were ways to bring He-Man back either to the big screen or small screen. I like to think of interesting ways in how to make He-man grand in scale. I like to imagine that when Hordak was banished all the worlds that he conquered were automatically sent to Despondos as well due to his magical grip onto the worlds he conquered. Also if they ever wish to do another Masters of the Universe Thundercats cross over. They could something of the original Trolla Wizards who were connected to the power of the Universe the best and were in charge of guarding this relic of ultimate power and realized the hard way that Hordak and his forces were too outnumbering. Realizing that they are being outnumbered by Hordak's Demons, Fallen Spellcasters, and Mutated Mutants that he experimented on the Trolla Wizards divided this power and scatteedr them across the Universe where one was given to He-Ro in the form of a sword on Eternia and another on Etheria where it was given to there champion. After Etheria's champion was killed by Hordak, the remaining resistance sent the sword to Eternia before Hordak could claim it's power. As Hordak searches for the two swords of power. The other two relics of power landed on other worlds. One landed on a desolate planet that would create life and evolve to a point to have an intelligence of its own when it psychically connected to a race of genetically engineered cat-people who fled a future Earth when their Human Masters were dying from a deadly plague and a war with Artificial Intelligence. That planet would one day become Thundera and the power that gave Thundera life will one day become the planet's spirit that will inhabit the eye of Thundera someday. The other relic of power would one day land during the period of Second Earth when Humanity died out and it was just an apocalyptic landscape, but the relic's power would heal Second Earth and turning it into Third Earth. That's one idea that could be used to expand the Masters of the Universe and Thundercats line. And since Orco is a Trolla himself, they could change Orco's character from a bumbling idiot to a hero in training. They could turn him into a cross between Frodo and Yoda as a savior of the Universe if they wanted. I still remember a He-Man comic cover seeing Orco taking on Hordak with his powers. I really like the concept of something that is small and doesn't look very intimidating is actually harnessing a massive amount of power, and I wish Matell would do that with Orco. There has been He-man storylines where Orco has the potential to become a very powerful Wizard if he trains and disciplines himself hard enough.
For He-Man's chances on the big screen, see this video here:
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So many words.....and they all made sense. I think. Don't know enough about the backend of these universes to be sure but guys like you add so much potential to these stories. Comment section theory craft is awesome. Don't change unless it's to start a channel.
Seriously? Another link back to the goddess in MOTU. You really need to do a video about how so much is linked to that character/concept. Can I get a shout out?
Will do!
Skeletor = living skeleton
Teela = ‘Living’ Bride?
“Man are you keeping notes, this is crazy.” (9:02)
“Yeah there’s a lot of…” confusion.
Especially with me
Why is Hordak in the Netflix series
When you gave the character the name 'Oo-Larr', did you get the reference from the Indonesian/Malaysian language? We have the word 'ular' which is pronounced 'oo-lar'. If yes, does the character Oo-Larr have any relation to the Snake Men? Because 'ular' means snake.
I got the name from Tarzan thinking of a way to make the name sound like Tarzan's scream.
@@spectorcreative1872 Thank you very much for the explanation. But the sound of the name is really the same as the word for snake in our languages. Very interesting. Anyway I am really enjoying your videos on MOTU. I have been binge watching them.
Fisto is a father of Teela? What a hell Sorceress saw in Fisto, he have that huge hand and...OMG that is sick!
Yup, that is indeed what the 200X series established.
@@spectorcreative1872 If I was a writer I would put that He-Ro is a father of Teela. Sorceress was traveling throu the time, met most powerful wizard and wizard+sorcerss=Teela.
I was posting on he-man.org alot around the 200x cartoon before getting booted for panning their comic :-) anyway i recall they claimed teelas father was actually going to be man-at-arms in a surprise twist. Which is obviously over complicated writing since the cartoon was dropping enough hints it was going to be Fisto. Never made sense to jerk the audience around like that and I was skeptical of their behind the scenes claims about season 3 plans.
I thought it was Man at Arms
@@lucasbachmann I still say Duncan is Teela's father and he suffered amnesia durring the battle before he met Teela-na the sorceress. We never see his face other than a side of him. And his first wasn't massive in the flashback. Fisto already had a massive hand pre Duncan rebuilding it. Maybe the arm bandaged up is represented by Duncan's arm guards. They aren't just for battle but protection for past wounds.
I accept that Fisto can be Duncan’s brother. What I didn’t like in the 200x series was making Skeletor and Randor brothers. That just changed everything. Kinda like Laurie Strode being Michael Myers brother, only they undid that to where we still don’t know why he’s been after her over 40 years later, but getting back to Motu, hopefully in the new revelation series we get, they hopefully won’t follow that storyline anymore. Skeleton wanting to kill his brother and nephew just was a little weird. And I wish they never let it happen where Mattel or the powers that be, can’t put He-Man and She-Ra in a new series. I actually didn’t even know there wasn’t a possibility of Adam or anyone else from eternity could not ever appear in that new crazy She-Ra show . Like an idiot, I watched it thinking oh! I can’t wait til she reunited with her brother and all the other eternians. It just ended with Capra and adora falling in love and sailing off into the sunset ! Very disappointing.
Well this concept does come from the vintage mini comics
@@spectorcreative1872 oh! Before the 200x series, it played out that way? Both parts like Skeletor and random being brothers? And/or fisto being Tesla’s father? A lot of fans don’t want to believe it, which isn’t a big deal to me, because Duncan raised her and he is her father, but if it played out in the mini comics, that way and then on the 200x series, what’s not to believe. And hearing you speak of it like it’s fact, well we all know you know your stuff. I thought I was the walking talking encyclopedia on all things Motu, but that trophy goes to you my friend as I’ve been enjoying your videos and there’s usually something in them that surprises me!
Hey do you remember the figure SHield Strike HEMAN?.
From New Adventures?
@@spectorcreative1872 Yeahp.
I think the word, astral projection would be suitable
That word is two words
I thought She-Ra's sword was created using part of He-Ro's staff. I'm not sure where I heard or read this from, but it explained why She-Ra has more "magic" based powers like turning the sword into different things, healing, and talking to animals. I had heard the gem in her sword came from the gem in He-Ro's staff. That sounds like a better canon story for it to me anyway. He-Man basically represents King Grayskull while She-Ra represents He-Ro in the new age. It also would explain why She-Ra's outfit has gold and a red cape. Whatever happened to He-Ro's staff anyway?
Her sword was definitely not related to He-Ro's staff. His Staff was kept by the Sorceress and is one of the magic secrets inside Castle Grayskull
@@spectorcreative1872 That's a bummer. I think having her sword be part of He-Ro's staff was way more interesting. I forget where I heard that but I think it was on heman.org at some point. Guess it was just a theory. Thanks for clarifying!
Hey Scott can you discuss the whole controversy about “granny panty-gate” vs a more unitard look the fans wanted and why it couldn’t be done.
I'll add it to the list!
I know it was never your intention, but I thought it would have been cool if the Sword of Protection was actually He-Ro's magic staff shape-shifted to match the sword of He since the sword of Protection could change into other items in the cartoon. I feel like She-Ra's aesthetics matched He-Ro more than being a female He-Man.
An interesting thought, but no He-ro's staff has zero relation to She-Ra's sword.
So how come She-ra can do things that He-man can't, and if the sword is a clone, how come the sword can turn into other tools and He-man's sword can't?
Ah, that video is coming...
15:00 basically for them to appear together again the creator would need to own the rights to both
Pretty much. More here.
czcams.com/video/BLiogQTyIAI/video.html
There was a GRANAMYR! I feel robbed, Robbed I say! How did I miss out on a GRANAMYR?!?
I wish I could tell you
I love Despara
Who doesn't?
I always prefer He-Ro being Adam and Teelas son
Also the added Classics line storylines/background aren’t very sorry (sorry). It’s overly complicated and clunky. When adding to myths it’s always best to keep it simple.
Oh that video is coming too!
Brand separation while clearly both brands are intertwined, belong under one roof/together. Franchises/rights having been divided/split up, different owners that all want their say... Sad thing
Yeah, but then the lawyers come along..
Not a fan of the clone explaination personally. I always imagine it was like the vintage where there were 2 halves of one sword, but instead of Skeletor wielding one part, now She-Ra did instead. Alternatively "They were all deceived for another sword was made".
You really need to watch the 5 part episodes separately and not the theatrical version of the movie! They chop it to bits! So much is cut out!
Oh i have seen both~!
Hey, this was posted on my birthday, cool. I'll pose the same question as I have elsewhere, and if you''ve already answered by the time you see this, do pardon me. Maybe you can help clear up, if you know authoritatively: I HATE that the studious have been behaving as if Hordak was in charge of their executive board, repeatedly separating the twins ( He-Man & She-Ra ) just like Hordak & Skeletor did in She-Ra's origin story ( do these company's creatives & execs realize they are literally emulating one of the most infamously wicked crimes committed by in the original series by main villains Hordak & Skeletor??!!). The basics are that NBCUniversal, through Dreamworks, owns all the television rights to BOTH He-Man & She-Ra, though Mattel Creations/Television is credited as co-producer on the 2016-1020 She-Ra, and as a main producer on He-Man Revelations: but what is the actual deal?? Does Dreamworks have exclusive He-Man tv rights, or is Mattel somehow able to separately make shows based exclusively on the toys, and if the latter is the case, shouldn't they still be able to at least use She-Ra herself ( as well as Catra and possibly Bow ) since those characters, especially She-Ra, were produced as Mattel toys BEFORE the Filmation movie [ which was released nationwide in theaters before the show aired, made nearly 4 times it's 2million dollar budget, and was the only theatrical movie ever made of either original cartoon ) & show began, & had minicomics ( again, dated & copyrighted in back as 1984 www.he-man.org/publishing/item.php?id=726&image=18968 , BEFOE the movie & show ) that differed in many design areas ( though the origin story of her being He-Man's twin sister, abducted by Hordak as an infant, remained constant in all original iterations ) from the cartoon version??
Always happy birthday!
@@spectorcreative1872 Thank you very much!! I had a few questins and comments related to the insightful answer you gave on all the Mattel/Dreamworks/POPMOTU madness, it should show up in your notifications of recent replies. If not, I'll try to post it again later, I really was interested in answers to some of it.
@@spectorcreative1872 I was still hoping you could answer these questions I had: 1. if I understand you correctly, Dreamworks/Universal has the right to have He-Man & the Masters in their entertainment, so long as they keep their versions based on material in the Filmation shows ( & movie ). Is that correct??
2 )
ALSO, regarding She-Ra & Catra, is Mattel entirely unable to use even She-Ra & Catra?? This would be odd, since the copyright on those two toys & on the minicomic that first publicly introduced both She-Ra & Catra are dated 1984, & there are significant design differences www.he-man.org/publishing/item.php?id=726&image=18968 in both characters compared to their Filmation versions ( the Catra design has MASSIVE differences ). Is Mattel still prohibited from using versions of She-Ra & Catra based on the 1984 copyrighted product & minicomic illustrations/toys which they created prior to the Filmation movie & series ( the way they are able to use Hordak... I know Classics Media disgustingly "split" the brands, but the original She-Ra & Catra toys & minicomics didn't belong to classic media or even Filmation to begin with)??
An 80’s babe!
Truly
@@spectorcreative1872 are we talking about She-ra or Melendy Britt?
She-Ra’s story was just Tee-la’s original controversial story repurposed.
LOL. The Sorceress wasn't in the form of Zoar when she gave birth to Teela. So no...Teela was not hatched from an egg! Funny though!
Well look at Filmation
What I never understood, however, is, why did Hordac want Adora?
To have access to her ability to use the sword of He
Spector Creative that makes sense
@@StarlasAiko
In the '80s series The Horde invaded Eternia and tried to conquer it. In the process of their defeat, Hordak planned to kidnap both twins because he knew they had a special destiny though he was unsure what it was. He only had time to grab one child and escape through a portal to escape capture.
As a kid I lumped blackstar brave star and motu and She ra 1 universe. As an adult alas I find my child hood dream was only that a dream. at least my other fantasy toy universe was confirmed thundercats, silverhawks and tiger sharks. I guess my childhood wasn't a total waste. Doom in my childhood doom!!!!! Lol jk
Oh you are not the only one! That is the fun of the playroom rules
So, He-Man = Power-Man.
Exactly. And makes sense right?
This was a great video! Except the opening with straight DreamWorks shade was a little off putting. I'm sure it would be MORE off putting for new fans coming to learn more about classic MOTU She-Ra.
Well, she is under new ownership
10:00 : Disney Star Wars liked this idea
The backstory is kinda BS, I didn't understand how the second sword came to be, but anyway :P
It was magically cloned from the Sword of He just as Teela was magically cloned for the Sorceress in the mini comics
@@spectorcreative1872 that makes no sense at all though, because neither are clones. They are not identical.
You could just as well say "it was magically created out of thin air, just like Adams twin sister, because we wanted to appeal to the female demographic" and it would make ... better sense actually :P
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Thanks! I am glad to have you on board! Lots to see on the channel
That first character is not she ra.
Nope
I got a head ache how can you take from everything? New that classics followed 2000x and added new stuff from dc comics something I personally dismiss never came here anyway
Sword, accent sword of eternia created by greatest magicians of eternia same ones whose power spirits lives in grayskull and literal power of the universe and heart of the magic planet cloned by the sorceress using a magical crystal to enhance it as it's less powerful than the original giving it unique abilities .That's it to me
Magical armour yes makes sense raises it to another level
So Mattel don't have masters ip now and she ra I never new wasn't part of it so who separated her from masters
Spread sheets help to keep this all straight...
@@spectorcreative1872 you are absolutely right I'm off to excel
Lol she remembered she was good not evil. Sorry to all the worlds she conquered and lives she took. Sorry people i forgot i was not supposed to that. Imagine if Vader was just fine and would have gone with Luke to the Ewok village. Hey guys i forgot i was a good guy for the last 30 years. Anyone of my old gang still alive? Sees Force ghost of all the jedi he killed... Ow..
Hey it could happen
Yes all other Hemen were place holders for the chosen one....which would mean that the only time the chosen one would actually own the sword was his natural life and the it would what, go back to placeholders for rest of time......yeah that's not good storytelling at all
Well the "chosen one" would go on to restore peace by destroying the Horde Empire. So after that not as much need for a warrior
@@spectorcreative1872 yes because there will never be evil in the universe again.....wait
There never has been a good way to reconcile Ancient Hordak of the minicomics with Filmation Hordak. Though I will admit Netflix she-ra making one a clone of the other would work in a future effort.
If all else fails, make it a clone
The new she ra is NOT SHE Ra
From a certain point of view
I find it so upsetting that She-Ra won't be in the new MOTU Series on netflix, surely somebody somewhere can work something out! I mean c'mon! It's He-Man's TWIN SISTER! Bloody legal BS!
It’s a legal issue. Two separate properties now.
Why and how it was made possible to never allow He-Man and She-Ra to ever be in a series, sucks. How did that even happen? Wouldn’t whoever owns the rights to She-Ra and whoever owned the rights to He-Man just both benefit, if both characters can be in whatever yet to come series that are on the way?
Watched that lgbt version of She-Ra thinking at some point that He-Man and Eternia would have been introduced at so,e point. Never would have wasted my time with that shit had I known this!
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Your hang up on trying to justify cloning in MOTU makes no sense when you’re trying to explain how two swords exist.
Compared to Kevin Smith's He-Man abomination Dreamworks' She-Ra isn't that bad!
Well...
I prefer revelations, cannot stand Netflix "she ra".
I like the Dreamworks she-ra....the characters actually have personality for a change...and not just being there, ya know?
@@TheCastellan glad you like it but I cannot stand their characters, very unlikeable.
@@lukebaldock4672 I quite like them, they actually got personality and not these perfect, superman-esque types. The originals almost had NO personality or real stories to them. Like Dreamworks Glimmer was trying to prove herself to her mother, trying to rebuild the princess alliance, and later on coping with the loss of her mother, and the burden of being the new queen. Filmation Glimmer just chased men and styled her hair. Catra had a LOT more story in the new series, Filmation Catra was just another thug to fight. Just to name a few. The Filmation stuff was just too.....simple, if I had to use a word....kinda like how WEP simplified GoLion when they did the Voltron thing, whereas GoLion had a lot more meat on it.
Oh, gross! Not the underaged lesbian prom fantasy of Noelle Stevenson!!
That said and done, you did not cover the creation of the Sword of Protection!
I"m not sure I followed this one, but ummmm cool?
wh....what??????????
@@spectorcreative1872 just my gag reflex makung me vomit at the sight of the Dreamworks Not-She-Ra.
@@spectorcreative1872 some people were mad that Dreamworks She-Ra is a teenager with a relationship complicated by childhood abuse and abandonment issues with another teenage girl her own age with same said issues
having canon gay couples in the show is forcing political correctness down their throats
she also wears sport shorts instead of panties under her skirt and there are no panty shots
shes a teenager with a small bust, so 'she looks like a man in drag'
basically the show was made for girls of all ages and did NOT pander to Straight White Males so it sucks
@@RoseWaltz right. Every retcon in fandom history has been sooooo well received. No panty shots of Cheetara in the newest ThunderCats revision, that's why it didn't do so hot right?
what do you know the he-man movie
is it going to be woke
Likely.
That Netflix show is awful.
She Ra or He-Man?
Seriously, you think this is good storytelling?????
Best of the best sir.