This Changed My Mind | The Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi - Best Value?
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- čas přidán 8. 11. 2023
- I was totally wrong. This should have been on my list!
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You buy a 5.7 to build it. Take the 10k you save on a scat and buy exhaust, headers, and a tune. You get Scat power.
Need a little more then headers to make "scat pack power" without boost. you need intake, cam, bigger throttle body with spacers along with a tune. Now if you a get a whole cam Kit along with after market intercooler ( more air more power) and definitely bigger Fuel Injections, spark plugs and forged internals. This should definitely make more then 500 hp without any boosts if not then just increase Bore Size since your doing forged internals.
@@cvnighthawk30challenger43 intake and throttle body aren't very expensive. Cam installl and long tube headers are probably the costliest parts. But still, all that together and it's less than buying a scat pack. Now the rest you speak of, yeah you're getting 500whp at that point, which is over the power of a scat pack. But that's what I love the 5.7, you can push it pretty high up depending what you want to do without forged internals. The goal is always to add the supercharger. I myself like the 5.7 hellcat build.
Back in 2021, I was fixated on a scat pack challenger. My car guy actually recommended me to drive a 5.7 hemi and needless to say, I bought a brand new 2020 Challenger RT and have never regretted it!
That’s totally what we should have done. It absolutely satisfies the muscle car itch and is a blast as a daily
I really enjoy my 2021 3:02 Charger RT. It’s my 3rd car with the 5.7. I also have a Jeep GC with the 5.7 and I owned a 2013 Charger RT max. The 5.7 is a great power train, runs 0-60 in 5.2 on the street, gets 28 mpg on the highway, mid-grade gas and the insurance is not overwhelming - top speed with the Daytona option is limited to 150 mph. Runs fast enough for me.
Perfect!!
I have never owned, Ive driven V8s before, so after a couple of years, I finally bought my used RT automatic, I like it a lot, it has enough power for me, Im not into racing, I like the V8 rumble, I would say it has adequate power. Put new ceramic brake pads, new spark plugs, had the all checked out, new tires, 75k miles but runs firm and strong.
🔥 💪🏼 amazing 🤩
I never even thought twice either. It was 392 all the way. But now with increased gas prices and the absurd price of the 392 cars now I think the 57 car would have to be looked at seriously.
I know! I feel like with all the 392 hype it just didn’t dawn on either of us
Totally agree - the RT is the only v8 trim where pricing hasn’t gone totally insane . . .
@@GuysTalkingCars I still think back to 2019 when I bought my 1st Scat Pack for $31k. Yes, just 4 years ago.
Used? Well below sticker.
@@garybishop4030Brand new. Stickers for $41k. Had $4850 rebate for the Power Bucks and a $5k dealer discount. Have times ever changed so quickly.
True that the 5.7 gets overlooked. Fact is it is a great value muscle car for the price. Got my 19’ M6 with 12k miles for 27k out the door and it’s been a great car👍
Wow great price!!! Yeah we totally overlooked that trim originally - that was a mistake. The value is not on the upper trims - scat and above - the RT seems to the the perfect package, especially in the manual. And there’s a ton of discounts right now.
I have a 2011 RT manual , I'm happy .
Back in April, I was pretty set on getting a Challenger Scat Pack too, but I ended up finding a brand new (leftover) 2022 6-spd manual R/T in my favorite color (Frostbite) with 8 miles on the odometer for $38,000 including TT&L (Dodge was offering $2500 rebates on 2022 R/T, GT and SXT but not Scat Pack...plus the dealer just wanted to get rid of their 2022 models so took off another ~$2000). At the time, a Scat Pack would have been at least $12k more and that's if they don't have a mark up. The R/T is definitely enough to scratch that muscle-car itch and now that I have it, I'm noticing how relatively rare it is. I see tons of Scats and GTs and a few Hellcats in my area, but very rarely do I see another R/T.
I really like the 2022 R/T wheels too! (czcams.com/video/oZNaAKGxuME/video.html )
Agree 💯!
Originally, I wanted a 392 because the Hellcat was out of my budget. I was set to drop a down payment on a 2019 Hell Raisin 392 Challenger Scatpack with 3000 miles. At the time, I knew my insurance and payments were going to be high, so I took a pause and thought about it a little more. At the time, I had no idea the Hemi 5.7 existed until I met a guy who had a 5.7 Charger. I asked if they had a Challenger 5.7 because I'm not a fan of the 4 door.
Did my research and decided to have my 5.7 built! Though it's not the fastest of the V8, I believe it's a better pick for an entry-level muscle car and on paper better on the pockets. Lower payment, insurance isn't outrageous, and it's a great daily. Not to mention it, responses better to performance mods! I can even mod it to make it as fast as a 392 without paying more in insurance.
I hate that the 5.7 is overlooked and underappreciated.
Great points - well said and we agree!!
I have a 16 Challenger R/T, it’s a 8 speed automatic with a CAI Longtube headers 93 octane tune and a lot of more things in the tune. It’s making 420 horsepower to the crank and 453 torque which makes it feel like a totally different car
Wow that sounds like an absolute beast!!
Have you ever tried to see wat it does against any 392s or 5.0s maybe?
@@bubba6703 it keeps up well with 392s until a certain point I still need a cam to really get that top end speed on them. I haven’t ran against a 5.0 but I’d imagine I’ll do better against a 6speed versus a 10r80 those things are crazy fast
I get more props from guys with 392's on my 5.7 with the tasteful mods I've done. Sure, it will beat me in a race but it's all in what the driver wants and I feel as though the 5.7 gets overlooked. It's plenty enough power for me driving up and down the road and plenty power for me to get out of a pinch if need be. Great review bro and thanks for shedding light on the 5.7.
Great comments thank you - glad we dove into the 5.7; been extremely happy with it. Super fun package that seems to get overlooked.
I bought a RT Classic PCP 6spd new in 2010 and still have it today. I could have bought a SRT version for $10K+ more but I can saw without hesitation that the I LOVE the RT but I am a long time die hard Mopar guy. I have a 5.7 in my 71 charger as well with a 5 speed, nothing against the 6.4 but the added cost is not worth the reward almost in every case.
Good overview! After owning my manual RT for 7 years, I was ready for more power and that widebody. I had fun with the car while I had it. Pretty good balance of power and fuel economy for a V8
I can see that! Car definitely seems a good package for daily fun on the street.
Have a Charger Scat pack and Durango RT plus. I love the Durango more. The 5.7 liter engine is awesome and very controllable.
I’d love to have a Durango
Like I stated in one of your other videos, I have a 2021 Widebody Challenger Scat Pack R/T 392 T/A with the 6-speed Tremec and a 2017 Ram Laramie Crew Cab with the 5.7 Hemi. The 5.7's can be easily turbo or super charged with almost little modification and a tune, and be brought up to Scat Pack horsepower and beyond, to almost Hellcat numbers. My Ram with the 5.7 already makes 400 horse naturally aspirated in it's stock form. I have a K&N cold air kit from my 2015 Ram Tradesman I'll be installing and putting the same Magnaflow Street Series Dual Exhaust System I had on my 2015. So the Challenger with the 5.7 is a wise choice considering all the aftermarket support it has. You could buy the Widebody kit from Vicrez, (and I think there are others that sell them), slap a set of 20 inch 305's, and instant Scat Pack look alike. You won't have the Adaptive Suspension that comes with the factory Scat's Widebody option and maybe not the Performance Pages, but who actually uses that all the time? I drive my Scat and I usually have the screen for the MP3 player or satellite radio, while I'm listening to the engine.
Great comment- tons of valid points here!! The 5.7 is popular for a reason
I did a lot of looking before i got my R/T. I found both an R/T and a scat pack. I ended up getting the R/T to save some money. I love my car. LOVE IT. but i won't lie, I always think about that scat pack. at the end of the day i just wanted a great looking and sounding car. I dont race anymore like i did when i was younger so why waste the money if im not going to be going fast? The R/T is an amazing car!
Really well said! Thanks for that
I think the media had everybody hooked on the 392s and hellcats even myself, but needless to say I went to a dealership for a scat and test drove a charger RT and everything that the media and people were saying about it being slow and not being enough power was thrown out the window I fell in love with my 22 charger and for 30k out the door was enough for me to drive off the lot. I get compliments all the time and people ask me what's under the hood because they can't believe it's a 5.7. Plus my insurance and payments are a ton less than a new scat pack.
Well said!! 🔥
I looking for a nice 15-19 R/T Challenger as a daily, price wise and performance hits the sweet spot for me.
Agreed!
I’m in the market for a challenger and I’m going straight for the 5.7 I’ve never even looked for a 6.4 because 30 years ago, 40 years ago, I had a 5.0 L mustang, and I am looking for a mild V8. It’s a great cruiser in the mountains in a 5.7 I think even above the 5.0 mustangs is the way to go.
Good move! Perfect package 🚘
I got a brand new 2020 Challenger R/T for $32K Here in Northern California. Couldn't be happier 😊
Great deal!! 🔥
Just bought my first. She’s a 2023 Challenge RT Plus. She’s definitely a keeper….
That’s a badass ride! Congrats!!
I just bought the 345 cubic inch 5.7l RT Last Call edition. I like it, plus more fun for me with thr 6 spd manual. I won't win races with 375 horsepower but im having more fun driving and on my commute so all good.
Totally agreed - daily driving it’s more than you need!!
Not to mention you can mod a r/t , the 392 is pretty much maxed out
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Or buy a 392 and already have the power and save yourself the expense and effort
Good review and evaluation. Well presented. Well edited.
Thanks 🙏🏻!!
It really comes down to how much power you want. I had a Charger Scat Pack for 2.5 years and found it to be overpowered. I don't drive like a maniac though and I am now driving a Charger GT. The cars look almost exactly the same, have the same transmission, and even ride on the same tires. It's saving me $360/month and the thieves tend not to be as enthusiastic about the V6s. The R/T is a reasonable compromise if you must have the V8 and it only costs about $100/month more than the GT. In my opinion, with the current incentives, those two trims are the best buys.
Well said
As someone who owns 5.7 6.2 and 6.4 stroked to a 7.4 . 5.7 is the most dependable there is a reason it’s been in production so long. Lot of people have great luck modding it as well.
Thanks for this - makes sense!
Dude the 5.7 will be more dependable than that stroked out 6.4 because you went super out there with the 6.4, any bone stock car from dodge will be more dependable than one that's been worked on. If you went 6.7 stroke, bigger camshaft, forged pistons, upgraded pully system, air intake, performance headers, and a flex fuel tune you could make close to 700hp naturally aspirated and it would still be dependable
@@ashlysmith7525 I’m making 600hp all motor. My 454 is also reliable as it was built by the best MMX. The 5.7 is more dependable because it’s been around for 20 years you know why they stopped making the 6.1? Because it was garbage.
@@ashlysmith7525 you do realize a 454 stroker is a 7.4 liter motor?
@@SRTGHOSTS Dude you LITERALLY said a 6.4 stroked to 7.4 the 6.4 is a 392 to stroke the 6.4 would be a change to the rotation assembly meani g it's still a 392 so which is it?? Is it a 392 that is a 6.4 stroked out or is it a completely different engine??
i got a 2010 rt classic and im sure it had front damage before lol , but its fun and nice with the 6 speed at least it has 21k miles
Hey GTC….I have a Daytona 5.7L, and I always knew it was the best value. Don’t get me wrong, the Scatpack was the best bang for your buck in terms of power per dollar (nowadays a little less so, because they have been jacking the prices up), but in terms of VALUE, for a Great Car that can give you all and anything you expect from a HEMI…the 345 platform does it for a very reasonable and affordable price. It is PERFECT for a Daily Driver, and still scratching that Hemi Itch…👍💪🏾🙏🏾😎⚓️
Well said!!
I'm going tomorrow to see a 2023 Challenger RT Plus fully loaded with all the bells and whistles. $54000 MSRP, dealer is selling for $34500. That's almost $20000 off! If there is no surprises on the price and its available for the sale price I believe I will buy it. Its a beautiful car and the RT is plenty of speed for me. I don't need the 392. I'm an old man.
Wow! Did you end up getting it?
I have a R/T in checking out and looking to buy this weekend 2020 murdered out. I’m needing that power just so I can cruise in low high volume 🥴
@GuysTalkingCars I have an appt at 6pm. I'm going right after work. I will update if I get it later today or no later than tomorrow.
@GuysTalkingCars Update. Yes I bought it. Amazing I got it for 19500 off Msrp. I am SO GLAD I waited for the right time and price. She is incredible. I put a little $$ down also and after tax title and doc fee my total finance amount was $32,870.
i bought a 23 challenger Rt blacktop for 33k otd, discounts on 5.7 are amazing.
I had 5.7 RT Charger and it was a great hwy car. it has cylinder deactivation and got 26/28 range yet had enough power to merge and pass during rush hour. If your commute has a lot of hwy miles these cars are the best great seats for long haul .They are not in the city or stop and go traffic. I loved that car but due to job change had to trade it in for a different model.😥
Oh man . . . Sounds like you miss it. I would love to see a 5.7 charger with AWD - they made them for the police cruisers . . .
my 2009 tundra is a 5.7 v8, it has great power. not sure about on the challenger tho but I'm pretty sure it should be the same lol
Not sure when's the last time you've looked, but now the Scats (non widebody) are being discounted. I'm looking at one for $44k but it's got an Automatic with 1500 miles. But there's lots of Scats being offered with discounts now, unfortunately most are automatics. I will say ive driven both the 6M and automatic and enjoy that legroom in the auto, but miss the control of a 6 speed. I've seen RTs with $12k off, and Scats with $6k. Now what would you choose?
Getting closer to looking at the scat - $44k is tempting. Still feel like prices need to come down more but I’m comparison to even a year ago it’s major progress. If I could get a narrow body new scat under $45k it would be compelling.
@GuysTalkingCars agreed, wasn't long ago the Scat Pack was a $3k option, now it's a $10k trim upgrade. I really enjoyed watching your face as you drove the 6 speed RT, I'm going to drive another manual RT and go from there, thanks ✌️
@@Kevin_Craig thanks for the support! Love the manual option!!
The R/T is a far more streetable car than the Hellcats etc in my opinion.
You’re probably right
Idk, I bought a 392 T/A last year and I've been able to pull away easy from a few 5.7s. but yeah nice cars for the price.
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this has to be the first car review while not driving the car in question
I might be - which followed the video of him driving the car lol
lol whatttt??? I need to test one out lol
The best value is a camaro LT1 ......you can pick it up under 40k with 455hp it’s has the best steering and handling out of the challenger and mustang.......this is coming from a ex 5.7 challenger r/t owner.....I will admit the challenger was a great car not knocking it at all but if you get the chance compare it to an LT1
Great perspective!! Thank you !
Great feedback thank you
The camaro ain't family practical tho
@@timothywebb6689neither is the challenger the charger with the 5.7 Would be though.
Check insurance first. It is very high.
I just picked up a 2023 RT plus package . $14k off msrp.
Congrats!!
What location
@@MC-ie8xlOrlando Fl. All Challengers are like $10-$20k off.
In the neighborhood is a no brainer.
But to smoke these on the highway in a 22 WRX tickles my 🥒
All you Mopar fools will regret not going with a scat
Cracking me up! 😂
V6 Camaros have been known to beat a 5.7 Challenger. If you don't care about racing, it's probably just a good cruiser.
I mean that’s not impressive because the 5.7 was made for a truck in 2003. If it took 20 years for Chevy to compete with the base v8 good for them I guess?
@@SRTGHOSTS Bro?! Wtf? Is this even serious or you trolling? Buddy, V6 Camaro came out about 14 years ago and it was never meant to compete with any V8. Let's be real here, the V6 Camaro handles better but accelerates like a complete joke and sounds like ass. At least a 5.7 sounds better, can usually edge out a V6 in a straight line and has more room inside. Let's be honest here, a 90s Pontiac Trans Am is a better car than any 5.7 challenger. You get the legendary bulletproof 5.7 LS1 and you actually get better handling, better chassis, more durable parts and better reliability. Get you a 2002 Trans AM WS6. They're still affordable enough to be a bargain, my pal
@@The_Hulkster my point is people brag about beating the 5.7 but don’t acknowledge that it came out in 2003. Especially those import guys with 4 cylinders. I have a 5.7, scat and hellcat. I prefer mopar.
@@SRTGHOSTS I hear ya buddy. I used to be a Mopar guy until my SRT8 challenger shit all over me in so many ways with nickel and dime cheap engineering and parts and god help you with that braking system fiasco. That sheer disappointment is what made me purchase my 2012 ZL1. Almost 14 years later and 149k miles, it has yet to let me down. It's seen track days and drag days. Everything still works and it still gets driven like a Camaro. Pushing 730rwhp on a conservative tune but can do more. Listen pal, I hate that Mopar didn't do a little something more for the 5.7 in this challenger but like I said before, it's a good cruiser. Nothing more and nothing less. I also need to say the disrespect from Stellantis currently will keep me away from mopar products for years to come. I rarely purchase new vehicles but when the C8 Z06 is available at MSRP, that will be my next beast. It will last me well into retirement.
5.7 Hemi run 4.7 seconds 0-60 and 13.30's in the 1/4 bone stock with 3.06 gear ratio..
The slower ones have 2.82 axle ratio's and those are pretty much the same as a V6 Camaro..But then you have a smaller car with a Camaro,good for women to drive....
$9,000 off of?
Challenger RT
@@GuysTalkingCars full price is what I’m asking.
Most comfortable for sure