Heated Debate: Should Boys Get Taught How To Respect Girls At School? | Good Morning Britain
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 10. 09. 2024
- Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer says boys would be taught how to respect women and girls as part of the national curriculum in his plans to prevent misogyny and violence against women.
But does putting the responsibility on boys create a blame culture and perhaps even drive them towards extremist views?
Relationship expert Fahima Mohamed says the education 'starts at home and parents need to take more responsibility for that.' While Marvyn Harrison from Dope Black Dads podcast explains why he believes the plans to teach boys about respecting women and girls is a good idea.
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teaching people dignity and respect should be for everyone not just boys
Exactly. This is pure misandry.
And misandry doesn't matter anymore.
It's all out war against the straight white British male.
Boys/men are the biggest offenders, therefore it should be centered around them and toxic ideals
There are some cruel/mean girls
Teaching doesnât mean not teaching girls, is that what they said?
This should be taught at home, for BOTH boys and girls.
@Alice đđ cry
@Alice-bb5it maybe if women didnt drop their knickers for any loser that looks at them, they'd have a better home environment. Let me guess, you let some dickhead knock you up and youve spent every day since on social media bashing all men because YOU made a bad decision
@@Alice-bb5itstop over exaggerating and crying
I totally agree with this lady. That type of education should be taught at home. The same goes for basic manners. Unfortunately many parents do not teach their children how to behave.
so then when the parents are unable to give a good example, school schould step in.
This man who is showing no respect for that woman says his son learned that rude behavior at school and not from home.
Exactly, Many parents do not teacher their children how to behave or to respect females. If not at home, where else are these kids going to learn how to behave or respect females? School.
@@csmelenrespect should be given everyone. Not just females in particular
Yes. And girls should respect boys.
No. Because when girls are nice to boys, they start expecting stuff from them.
Both boys and girls should be taught to respect each other.
How about we just teach children how to be respectful in general.
I donât even think this guy believes what heâs saying, just wants the air time! Total nonsense, allow parents to be parents for gods sake
I have a daughter and I will teach my daughter to first respect herself and then respect everyone because to every action is a reaction.
Misandry is as big a risk as misogyny.
Not in a gynocentric society.
Of course it is.
Not if you look at the murder and crime statistics.
@Jujutrini stats are flawed as men don't report because they have been conditioned not to since a young age . In the next 10 years you will see the stats to be more equal as more and more men are getting sick of the gynocentric system we live in and are choosing to report....in the name of gender equality.
Less and less men are not getting married for the same reasons.
â@@jascam74 you nutter we unfortunately live in a patriarchal society not đ« a matriarchal or equal one! Also stop đ defining women by their body parts
It's parents who should be teaching their kids respect for everyone.
Some parents donât even respect their adult peers or their coworkers or the cashiers from your local supermarkets , disrespectful parents make disrespectful kids . If parents donât want to educate their kids then they shouldnât be having them coz then the burden falls onto the teachers or other adults in positions of authority to teach kids basic manners that should have been taught at home
They have parents who should teach them.
Some kids arenât raised with their parents , parents in jail ? Kids in care? , abusive parents ? divorced parents who canât co-parent responsibly ?
â@@supernova7848 yea so blame the parents ... i do , simple
â@@stevencoe852 That's a cop out as a society. Schools are there to teach.
'We need to teach boys how to respect girls!!!!' how about the guest show some respect to the woman in the studio trying to talk?
Stop blaming Andrew Tate for everything
The guy was talking so much nonsense my ears was bleeding. Big up to beautiful lady
This is crazy . Behavior from children starts from the home by learning to respect each other.itâs definitely singling out boys
This man who is showing no respect for that woman says his son learned that rude behavior at school and not from home.
All children should be taught how to respecteach otherr in home and school. What would happen if a child is not taught to be respectful at home?
A decent debate for once. I found myself agreeing slightly more with the lady here although there are challenges to both approaches. For one, there are plenty of parents out there who do not give a shit what their kids are doing. The kids are hopeless if not taught in schools. Then again, teachers are under a lot of strain and pushing back against bigotry in schools from these people will not be easy
This man who is showing no respect for that woman says his son learned that rude behavior at school and not from home.
Iâm confused donât parents teach this to their children anymore. My parents taught me how to respect other people, and my brother was thought how to respect women.
Not all parents are like yours
I was taught to respect everyone, not women in particular. Women are not these special gods
Why not teach girls not to sell themselves to the highest bidder on onlyfans?
Is the average girl in school whoâs 15/16 on only fans/selling themselves?? No
@@ayo1232
Give them time!
classic sexist shit
Maybe if men didn't chase these IG models, there would not be no interest to make such content.
Exactly the only reason only fans is viable is because MEN have made it so
Iâm sorry but this is absolute rubbish, if you have good parents and they teach you to have good values then I really do you believe that you will end up being a good person.
Agreed
What about the unlucky kids who donât have good parents?
And how do you quantify âgood parentsâ. How many hundreds of thousands of people in society lack good parenting, are in prison, mental health hospitals, or therapy, due to bad parenting? Idealism isnât useful for these discussions
Tunnel vision.
Your arguement is flawed.
You assume that the good person will be treated good by others.
If one (well raised) person is always giving but surrounded by people who only take, it's only natural that the person eventually stops giving....unless they are a brainwashed idiot/simp/whiite knight/mangina, of course.
Good parenting only goes so far.
It is gonna single out its gonna make problems worse - it must start from home
the amount of girls that need teaching dignity and respect as well. Otherwise were going to have a generation of Onlyfans pre teens for f**** sake
onlyfans vs dangerous incels with ideologies that have killed women for generations.
Onlyfans is more to do with money than respect. Most of us aren't getting paid a good salary.
As soon as that woman said she had a degree in psychology i was defiantly on the blokes side more lol
I swear everyone gets a degree in bloody psychology, and automatically think they know everything, and in my experience they don't know a great deal! It does sound good though!!
I don't agree with her. But your anti-intellectualism is a poor generalisation.
@@Marz2727 " anti-intellectualism "
Like it, sounds great, mine is just fine though thanks, and i stand by what i say!
I think that everyone should be taught to respect all sexes. However, not all parents are going to teach this, schools should teach this.
Respect is earned, not given.
The idea of respecting someone just because of what they have between their legs is as abhorant as giving respect to someone based on their skin colour.
Maybe when someone is disrespected for what they have between their legs then people should be taught not to disrespect them. Same way when someone is disrespected for the colour of their skin then people should be taught not to disrespect them. Your argument would make sense if there wasnât any structural inequalities but unfortunately there is so people are being asked to respect groups of people that are disrespected.
@S S what are structural inequalities you talk about?
The divorce courts?
The family courts?
The unequal level of punishment dished out by the criminal justice system for the same crime depending on what you have between your legs?
The severe lack of funding for men's mental health when they have always had the highest rates of suicide?
People arriving in this country jumping up the housing ladder ahead of people who have lived and contributed all their lives to this country?
Jumping queues in the NHS ahead of people who have paid tax all their lives?
Your post would make more sense if you were more specific.
it's common sense as a parent to raise your kids up, not drag them up, it's your job as the parent to teach your kids to respect each other whether your are male or female or whatever. If you are the kind of parent who just raises your kid to hate others then you shouldn't be a parent lol, respect works both ways, teachers are there to educate the basics, parents need to do the actual work.
Agree with the Muslim
How about teaching girls self respect
How about teaching girls self respect and respecting men
Honestly I agree with Sussana and Fahima, to 'teach' something out of boys is basically telling them they have violent or disrespectful instincts inherently in them, which is just not the case. Kier Starmer shouldn't ever have power to make these decisions.
If your gonna teach this in schools might aswell not be brought up by your parents just let the school bring the children up!
This is the problem. Governments have too much say & Ideology rubbish so now society is broken .
Parents don't teach kids anyway they only think they do.. your kids learn from ppl there age the music they like the social society and tv/ movies and games Facebook Twitter Snapchat etc.... and a lot of ppl don't have good parents they just have parents that had sex and ended up in a family to have the money to raise a child . That's not the same as a good educated middle class mother and father with a great family structure.. that's why it's takes a village to raise a kids..but parents no longer believe that which is why all the kids are like this
@@perrycrawdog161 exactly! Your comment should be pinned ! đ
Some parents literally treat school like itâs a daycare center
@@supernova7848 exactly.. they get up everyday to send they kids to school because they have no village structure..just so they can complain about who educate they kids smhh.. stop having kids if you can't educate them or pay premium for their education ..it's that simple..
Blame the parents. When kids see the dad treat the mums like shit what do you think the boys are gonna do.
How about we teach everyone how to respect others instead of giving girls the special treatment?
Exactly respect is for everyone, but these left wing feminists think they are some gods who need special treatment
keir doesn't know what a woman is though
This is something that needs to be taught at home. Parents are role models
Will he let her finish a sentence?
Does that mean a girl will be teached not to use her body to get what she wants?
It's fine, just don't Associate as a boy for that day and you won't have to do it.
Imagine a boy who is very respectful to girls just sitting in that lesson thinking âthis has got nothing to do with meâ
Pointlessly time wasting
Most boys arenât like that though, theyâd probably be giggling and trying to faff around in the back of the classroom
I think if he's that very respectful to girls then he'll want other boys to share his values
â@@PR7-82nope, not his responsibility to change the whole world. He is a regular human who has things going on, not a jobless SJW
@@ashwinabrahamjacob525 I think this is also important to point out; not attending protests or starting campaigns because you're busy trying to live life doesn't make you a 'part of the problem', yet people find it easy to villainise those who don't attend protests etc.
Then heâs part of the problem. Men who want to genuinely respect women and be better would acknowledge that they COULD BE BETTER and would listen and learn.
Should we teach boys to respect girls in school? Yes, we already are, when I was at secondary school we did it loads in PSHE, and now Iâm in college I still get taught it in tutorial lessons as does every other person in the college. Do it anymore it just makes us lads look and feel worse than most of us actually are. One thing I never see though is girls being taught not to shout at boys who respectfully ask them out or try and talk to them.
Why would it make us feel bad? As long as you aren't exhibiting the behaviours that are being criticised then you should feel proud.
Honestly. This is probably the first debate I've heard where both "sides" made sense. It was as though they both argued the same point, but somehow, there was a sense of disagreement. I PERSONALLY was very impressed
Both of the people having the debate didn't have good manners and respect themselves, they kept talking over each other
It was Unprofessional debate đ bad manners no art of conversation. They need lessons in having a two way conversation. Listen digest then answer I did not listen to the full video đ ear ache tosh đ
Absabloodylutely!!!
Schools canât do everything I think parents are responsible and should teach their children manners
They need to do what the Danish do where boys and girls are learning about respect and dignity for each other. UK needs to take lessons. It is very clear that politicians are electioneering than make meaningful change for everyone not just boys.
How's top g getting blamed for parents not been able to bring up and educate their children accordingly or some of the governments rules stopping parents from been able to discipline/set boundaries for children đđđ
The Piers Morgan look-alike lol it will never be the same
I am 100% on side of Marvyn and really surprised by Fahima, my daughter goes to college within a over 90% Muslim demographic environment . Andrew Tate has been a massive influence on most of the boys, there are only a few boys that disagree with AT and the rest will say things constantly like BE QUIET GET BACK IN THE KITCHEN, when the girls try to talk, even to the point of disrespect to female teachers. Itâs already being addressed in the college in lessons- it should start in the home but too many homes will not be bothered/not know whatâs happening..or even have issues going on that means it will be ignored.
â@@AH--173 Misogyny has always been "cool", this is just a new unfortunate wave.
That guy hates himself.
We should teach all children to respect each other. But if we want to start with respect about women, letâs start with knowing factually what they are.
If the parents don't care there's no hope
If kids are being taught respect then yes that's a good thing. But it should be taught to everyone. No need to be specific about genders. Honestly sometimes when you see how people act, you do think who's taught you about respect.
Respect shall be taught at home first. Schools arenât around to raise children and educate them about respect but to teach them mathematics, English or whatever second language there is in whatever country, science, history ect That shouldnât be a debate, itâs a common sense.
This man who is showing no respect for that woman says his son learned that rude behavior at school and not from home.
Heres an amazing concept, how abiut teaching mutual respect?
Forcing one group to respect another group whilst encouraging that group to disrespect the other will only result in bitter resentment and backlash further down the line.
The rich elites are the ones forcing this agenda to avoid the topic that should be discuseed which is rich vs poor, which has muliplied 3 fold over the pandemic.
How is that even a question? Of course, respect and dignity must be taught at home and at school, to both boys and girls. But there is an extra dimension to boys needing to learn that they cannot attack and abuse since from puberty onwards they are physically so much strenger.
Contrary to popular ignorant belief girls and women can be just as violent.đź
I absolutely agree with Fahima Mohamed 100%. đŻđŻđŻđŻđŻđđđđđ
Do Labour not want to attract any voters or what?
Oh so it's the parents responsibility to teach the boys about respecting women but the school will happily take over on educating the kids about gender ideology???
But boys ARE better than girls đ đ€·ââïžđ„ł
Joking aside this guy is so drunk he doesnât know what sober is anymore.
In a Utopian world, I would agree the best place is home. Reality, is different. Hence, guidance for both, boys and girls can be a plus at schools
This kind of approach makes me think that the word "progressive" era is a joke.
Teachers shouldnât tolerate any disrespect/abuse towards girls in the schools or classrooms but also towards each other.
What about showing disrespect to boys and men or don't we count.
You Literally didnât mention boys. You feminists are really showing your true colours, you donât care about equality
as a mum of boys this concerns me...I will not let schools teach my boys they are danger to women!!!
How..? Shouldn't respect be taught in home and school? Do you want your kids to.. not respect others..?
@@hanit279 didn't you just see my comment where I said I would teach them respect....also if they are going to teach respect to all children then fine....but not just sitting the boys down and telling them they are the problem...that's my issue
@@ruthhadfield9726god bless you, you are a loving mother. Boys should not be singled out as these predators. Respect of ethnicity, gender and background should be learned at home.
Everything starts at home. This guy is shifting the blame...
Took you guys less than 30 seconds in this video to Slander Andrew Tate.
It's not slander if it's true
Your Tate daddy is a groomer.
@@Anonymoose66G a lot of those comments have been taken out of context
â@Jacob and yet girls still throw themselves at him....better work on having more self respect
@@emowhite6150 That doesn't mean anything. It's amusing how your verification of just actions is wether you can get a women to sleep with you for a night or not. đ
I think we should learn to respect each other, in a workplace have felt women do not know how to talk to men, but have seen women treated badly and should work both ways. I remember even at primary school over 20 years ago just learning how to respect each other and put water under the bridge. Could have had a disagreement with someone but at the end of the day or next day we just moved on and laughed about it, donât see that so much now.
Because we live in a blame culture nanny state . Responsibility for one's actions has consequences so blame others đit's a cultural thing for some people to disregard woman's respect & needs cave men mentality đalso some girls need to respect themselves & have standards of what is right & wrong in a relationship đend of the day . Respect each other & bring back romance â€
@Patricia O'reilly yet again, you make the point that men should respect women and women should respect themselves. You just can't seem to bring yourself to say that women should also respect men.
You look through a gynocentric lens on the subject of respect. In your mind it seems to be a one way street.
You talk about culture but for many decades now the narrative and culture is to bash men, especially heterosexual white men. Your last comment says respect each other, but the majority of your message is 5h1tt1ng on men.
Is the concept of teaching women to respect men alien to you?
Do you have a cat and green/blue/red dyed hair by any chance?
Nose piercing?
There's nothing toxic about sharing nude photos around as long as the people involved doing it are okay with it. That simple.
This chap said that learned behaviours are primarily from the home ages 0-7, and then said his 7 year old son said boys are better than girls. I wonder where he learned that? đ
Probably At school from his peers or from other extra curricular activities they go to.. he said that kids are also influenced by what they hear from their peers, hence having to course correct in school. I always hear little boys saying that in the playgrounds or in sports lessons
Do you not understand what âprimarilyâ means?
He used common sense, logic, and reason, pretty easy to figure that one out.
@@supernova7848 Then why wouldn't you teach respect towards others at school so that kids don't come home with these ideas?
the number of lads who behave terribly out and about is incredible. they get into a group and they all big themselves up, learning disrespectful behaviour from others
Constantly teaching girls they are victims leads them into abusive situations. We are not perpetual children, we can expect each other to raise the bar on expectations from men in our lives. A mother to boys, I will not teach them they are violent or automatically rapists because they are males, yes masculinity is good for society not toxic. I also teach them to avoid abusive females, what behaviors to watch out for that could harm them down the road. He challenges the masculine expectation of providing for the family but then we have a society where a women can legally financially abusive a man in divorce courts and with child support. Dual messaging. I am so tired of the schools thinking they are moral arbiters for children. The audacity.
Doesn't it do the opposite of teaching girls that they are victims? A lot of women stay with an abusive partner because they think it is okay or normal. By teaching that it isn't, women can get out of abusive situations.
Men are not inherently violent or rapists, and women are not inherently nonviolent and not able to be rapists.
Teaching them to avoid abusive people, in general, is a great idea.
How is child support abuse? that makes literally no sense. Child support is supposed to give money to support the child both parties created. Women and men are both supposed to give child support if they are not their child's primary guardian. Do you just not want parents to be responsible in raising their children?
Do you think that showing kindness and respect towards others is a "moral arbiter"? Lol, so you think that it is not an inherently good thing to be kind and respectful.
Overall, your argument is pretty dumb and makes no sense.
I agree with most things except the part u Said about challenging stereotype of providing for family. Whatâs wrong with that, thatâs a positive thing, thatâs part of masculinity we should celebrates
That's the responsibility of the child's father (and here lies the issue, many children don't have a father!)
This brotha can do one. Kick some rocks.
That nigga is a Simp
I think itâs wrong I think everyone should be thought equally to respect everyone from schools and the finer details come from the home life
Give the teachers a break, this is down to the family, this smacks of indoctrination.
Boys ABSOLUTELY should be taught how to respect women. And how to not objectify us. And to learn CONSENT. Teach boys now and youâll make a difference to tomorrows men.
That needs to be taught at home. Also stop singling men out as predators and maybe you girls also need to learn to respect men at home as a lot more women are carrying out false rape allegations against men and abuse to men has risen too. Respect both genders
@@aarongeorge2702 But it obviously isn't being taught at home, is it? So it needs to be addressed in a healthy way in schools.
They just shouted over one another. I canât stand those type of interviews.
Ill teach my boys at home thanks, they know how to treat females but my daughters get taught self respect and respect for boys
Not all children have parents to teach them
Thatâs good singling our boys like this to make it seem women are innocent and boys have bad instincts in them is a terrible idea to be taught in school. Respect regardless of gender background or ethnicity should be taught at home
Wow they allow comments now!
First learning starts at home and the school supports what is being taught at home. Parents need to take some responsible and not keep outsourcing education
Why is he "disgraced" he's still not been found guilty. More Susanah "cant" Reid bullshit
Parenting is not learn at school, not all parents will not teach that to their children sooo
Whats her name
Children will learn from their caretakers how to treat people in the future.
How is this even a damn question! Everything should start in the hme! parents especially Fathers or Uncles / Grandfathers etc should teach Boys when a girl says no its NO, keep your damn hands to yourself, and if a girl rejects you make him understand it will happen a lot in life to show you cannot always get what you want and its okay. There is always someone else. Also a mental Health talk on its okay to express their emotions i.e to cry and to make him understand it doesnt make you weak its a virtue and its healthy. The real things that should be educated in schools sadly are not! Teach children about credit scores, how to get a mortgage, how to DIY in the homes Both genders, cooking skills etc
and girls should also learn respect at home too,in that case. Also when it comes to cooking, cooking is mainly the womenâs role, but men can also help in the kitchen and thereâs nothing wrong with that
Do they have mothers and sisters? How about starting there...
Good and bad, right and wrong, respect for others, etc should be taught at home from day 1! If kids have issues at 11/12 then already at a major disadvantage.
Are you joking ! If you canât see that it is a character of Andrew Tate to act like that, but then you donât see all the good things he does for men ⊠what has happen with itv ! Shocking
Well he should know by acting like that he would get a negative reaction.
Yellow shirt is a goof
So two representatives from two ethnic minority groups talking on a matter which affect the majority... ok
It was our Culture & Values to do so đover the years our Culture has been deliberately attacked leading to some men thinking woman are objects to be disrespectful & using woman as sex objects . Also goes both ways girls need to respect themselves & behaviour to a high standard, many men are respectful. Our Culture is to respect men & woman. Parents duty to make sure this happens, its only a few who act like preditors educate this is unexceptable in our Culture & Values .
"It should go both ways..girls need to respect themselves".
Both ways would be "girls also need to respect boys". Why can't you say that?
Boys respecting girls and girls respecting themselves is not "both ways". That's called the chips being stacked in one groups favour.
Some might even say its misandric.
Ever heard of the chipppendales?
Dreamboys?
50 shades of grey?
Women aren't innocent snowflakes when it comes to treating people as sex objects.
Double standards.
â@@jascam74 You don't get it Jason đ
@Patricia O'reilly oh I think I do get it Patricia.
I've been on this earth just short of 50 years and have seen how men are always encouraged to treat women with dignity and respect but women are actively encouraged to dismiss and challenge men at every turn.
The (lack of) content in your counter arguement just cements my point.
Respect should be learned at home regardless of male or female, background, ethnicity. Itâs silly to single out boys, itâs making men seem like predators and women as these innocent people who cant do any wrong.
Men and woman r totally different, girls can be just as ruthless as boys,do anyone listen to these 6type of people, I will bring my boys up to be a man and get on with life,but my daughter is my angel and will get what she wants from me,if nobody likes it tough,my kids my rules
"I will bring up my boys to be men but my daughter is my angel and will get what she wants."
Well, you're going to end up with resentful sons who might contemplate suicide from being brought up as second class (but hey, your kids your rules) and an entitled spoiled brat for a daughter that no man will want to put up with for any length of time.
Fail.
No.
Not unless girls are taught to make dinner on time and give their bodies when asked nicely by respectful men...even if they don't want to.
Does that still happen in the west??đ
You need to be taught
Home schooling will be the next big thing for the uk.
Lol well he the male guest never learned to listen. His parents didnât teach him to be less aggressive đź
Stop acting like a baby
#FreeTopG
The woman in the headscarf is correct
kids spend more time at school than home so how would teaching them have a negative impact
How is that so, they are in school mom-fri 9am to 3pmâŠ
The women there are so dramatical đ the question is not girl should not be teaching to respect boys but should boys be teaching to respect girl as well. If you want to create such programs youâre welcome. But donât act like if the issue doesnât exist thatâs a little stupid, sorry. If donât like it create a equity/ respect program, I donât know but do something
Oh my god, teaching boys is good, we already know what happens when you don't we are living in it. It starts at home tho definitely, stop shipping responsibilities to schools.
School should echo this protocol. all kids need to know how to behave with each other true but in our current state we need separate lessons, perhaps dont label the lesson how not to be a predator lol. as it's only an attack if that's your perspective. No real help created should be bashing you or appear to be singling you out. It should just be helpful
He should be first on course the way he speaks to that woman
Yes always remember respect his do to everyone.
Everyone try to respect one another.
The comments here say everything allâŠ
I need an answer, WHO IS GOING TO TEACH THESE LESSONS, MEN OR WOMEN??