To hear more from Virgil Abloh, see our CIFF 2018 panel discussion: showstudio.com/projects/ciff-x-stavros-karelis-february-2018/panel-discussion-ciff-february-2018
Street wear is high fashion, it goes deeper than what people in “high fashion” think. High fashion had history. Street wear has history and pain...but more authentic. Virgil had always trying to bridge that gap, and i think he has
It's not easy to like a guy who, in the most simplistic way can make the dopest thing. " Genius is 1% percent inspiration,99% perspiration. bravo Virgil, I am sure that you are the hero of a lot of kids in Chicago, that's a great achievement if you ask me.
It's funny to see this interview again now that Virgil has taken the place of Kim Jones as artistic director at Louis Vuitton menswear and that Kim Jones is now at Dior Homme.
kinda get it, listening to the interview you see virgil has the millenials, he has a vision thats structured as well as artistic. he speaks for a mass of hypebeast. Luxury brands are realizing NIKE can relate to MASS consumers and surprisingly has created luxury value in these limited edition or collectible pieces... I see Luxury brands dumbing down to gain Mass Consumers and stay relevant, which i don't quite get, because millenials outgrow streetwear, but ok. street wear is very basic and but is the popular relevant story and its merging luxury design to be relevant. High end is envious of the edge, and popularity. "street wear" is envious of cotour history, structure, value. everyones informed on how to build brands, but supreme/off white/fog, killed off most street brands and became the pinnacle of streetwear?... what happens next?
vehemently agree. in the end, those who have “it” and don’t force it will always prosper. people will create what’s true to them instead of focusing on what’s hot & if it’s good, consumers will appreciate it. I feel this is all part of the process to get to the best end product, which will be a mix of the ethos of streetwear (to just create & get out your ideas, regardless of capital & infrastructure) and the technical skill & knowledge of these storied maisons.
If you have a true love for design, aesthetics & fashion you don’t grow out of street wear, you grow up to be Kim Jones, Virgil Abloh and the likes. These men were in their late 30’s to early 40’s
My only question is why is there such an emphasis on street wear, but not street people. Like actually use the people you’re getting inspiration from. Invoke the whole feeling and fully shine a light on the people who birth it.
@@icaprone1 maybe the culture yall are trying to take over.. but "street wear" is something before it was labeled, and it was created and is lived by the STREET PEOPLE Latasha is referring to. The rawness and realness of our culture is still alive, because we are still this people in these streets living the life that birthed it everyday. Yall are just trying to dress like us..
NAOMI CAMPBELL: HOW DID YOU GET THIS JOB? VIRGIL ABLOH: I DREAMT IT; WILLED IT INTO FRUITION... GONE TOO SOON DEAR VIRGIL, RIP MY NO.1 MENTOR IN DISGUISE
Why do you say that I think he made a lot of good points on this generation, its tastes, what sets them apart from past generations, and the influence this generation has on the world of fashion. He fully recognized social media influence on fashion, which reaches even to the higher aspects of fashion. I thought this was a very interesting interview because both of these people come from the "streetwear" generation, with a background in very much casual/street fashion, urban fashion etc. This is a very interesting time for fashion to me because before this, it was mostly Japanese brands that produced this type of focus and had these type of people in the lead, but this is the first time to me that the western fashion world has become dominated by this area of fashion.
Can someone explain to me why people seem to dislike Virgil so much? You see it in the comments, you see it in this thread... I keep seeing people call him a hack and an idea stealer. Anyone?
cuttingwedge I like Virgil, but during his Pyrex era he did take the flannels from Ralph Lauren Rugby and put his logo on them. He also marked up the price thrice times over. So maybe from that aspect, but I love the deconstructed Nike's he has been doing.
Kevin Evans very true. I think what ppl should understand though is that was comparative to “high school” for him - learning thru trial & error b/c there was no way to get “in” the industry at the time to make clothing the “appropriate” way. we don’t shit on kids for making lemonade stands, or bracelets, or slime just because they aren’t legitimate, scalable businesses yet. we let them explore because that’s the practice & experience they need to succeed in the future. the difference is, he had the confidence to put it out regardless of what ppl thought / said, when most are too insecure.
Lou: Is Probably one of the most eloquent and researched fashion journalist, curator and broadcaster of her age. Having a book and 2 exhibitions under her belt under the age of 30. Who wouldn't want her to be your hero? Kim: his fusion of sportswear and luxury craft has inspired today's most prolific trend; sports luxe. He is Menswear designer for LV only 10years after his graduation from CSM. His wealth of knowledge of British pop and subculture, along with a great creative and business mind, He is everything I would like to be at his age. Virgil: How many other designers have you seen that have communicated in such a way with today's generation, than him? Virgil has a great commercial mindset and filled a gap in the market with Pyrex and currently with OFF-WHITE. he's also black, racial diversity within fashion is a problem, and he is a fantastic role model for anyone who feels like they can't break into the industry because they feel like their skin colour or where they are from would affect them. To conclude, they just seem like fucking great people. And today, in the media there are far too many Kardashian-Jenner, Hadid's and Boybands that people call their heroes, that I'd much rather pick 3 intelligent, young and fascinating professionals than those mentioned earlier. That is what makes them my Heroes.
I was so excited to watch this but quickly realized this was about Nike and Jordans. Blah. I wanted to hear about their thoughts on luxury, their brands, their collections... The ethics around Jordan's manufacturing history is deplorable enough. I get it's a great product but... Ugh. Please have them back to talk about their own collections and menswear in general. Fuck Nike and all those terrible sportswear brands.
Hehe. Yes. As a fashion enthusiast, I have zero interest in those giant sportswear brands. Nike to me is for working out and performance. I have never owned or worn something by Nike. Just not my thing. It's equivalent to Eddie Bauer or A&F for me. It's all branding as the product doesn't compare to say a Chapman bros LV piece. I get it though: hip hop culture, athletes, limited edition, streetwear culture... It's so desirable. Good for Nike. But I wouldn't be caught dead in Air Jordans. To each their own, yeah.
cuttingwedge although this collaboration is Virgil's biggest accomplishment so far with the "TEN". It's the biggest thing he's done and that's all thanks to Nike.
Being mentored by Lee McQueen is possibly the greatest thing that could happen to you when you aspireto be a fashion designer. What an amazing opportunity Kim had.
I haven't heard Kim say anything about Vuitton Supreme at all and I just skipped to the part where Lou said to not ask any questions about that because she's heard too much about it ... Okay then. Shutting this video down. Bah.
Does Off-white actually have respect in the "street culture" or is it just a hypebeast brand that has a tacky vibe because people like Bieber and ricegum wore it in a very " fuckboy" way. Virgil seems like a nice guy, but I hope he knows.
Abercrombieindya what do you mean by "wants to be accepted in the fashion industry" ? isn't he already "in" or is he trying too hard get the acceptance of notable fashion heads like Louis, Fendi and etc? I really want to know your perspective on it.
thats kind of the point behind Off-White. He describes is as the color between white and black or something.. idk, but Off-White is all about defining things such as culture. thats why he uses quotation marks so much. He explains it as defining what something is using society and "culture" instead of a straight forward dictionary. It just so happens that American street culture (hip hop or everything black lol) is the culture he is most involved with. I wouldnt say hes trash, but i wouldnt say hes revolutionary. He just has a cool idea and hes expanding on it.
.. Does it matter… really!!… His gifts ambitions and 💥talent sustain a million.. likes!!🎆🥰…. And your ‘like’ ….small/ weak minded and jealous …. No talent needed for that!’ Just ‘ petty ness’ Rest In Peace and beautiful paradise .. thank you.. ✨💥we love u.. your brilliance will be missed🌟 Virgil A. Ashe’
Virgil borrows, Kim steals. Borrowing = Taking inspiration and failing to surpass the standard previously set. Stealing = Taking inspiration and building upon it and in turn making it your own.
Being attached to a MEGA corporation like NIKE is not PUNK, CUTTING EDGE, or whatever you want to call it. Being a lackey for Nike is not something to aspire to or be proud of in my opinion. I guess it goes to prove that if you convince someone that piece of shit is made of gold you have talent?
Exactly. Here here. At least with LV, there's some edge in injecting Jones' amazing vision into a tired old lady brand. There's something fun about that.
truthfully, he just has a different approach. he’s not the first designer to try to capture the spirit of the youth, but he’s the first to make a conscious effort to speak to them directly & in a language they understand. he’s earned the right to be passionate, he didn’t just jump in the game lacking respect for the history - he studied, interned, went thru trial & error, failed & succeeded just oike every other person with aspirations of becoming a respected designer.
what is “real culture”? maybe you feel he doesn’t respresent your culture, but that’s ultimately subjective. personally, I feel very well represented by anyone who actually cares about contributing to the culture. he’s created moments that will inspire kids for many years to come.
To hear more from Virgil Abloh, see our CIFF 2018 panel discussion: showstudio.com/projects/ciff-x-stavros-karelis-february-2018/panel-discussion-ciff-february-2018
Street wear is high fashion, it goes deeper than what people in “high fashion” think. High fashion had history. Street wear has history and pain...but more authentic. Virgil had always trying to bridge that gap, and i think he has
He just took Our Styles
RIP my man Virgil.
It's not easy to like a guy who, in the most simplistic way can make the dopest thing. " Genius is 1% percent inspiration,99% perspiration. bravo Virgil, I am sure that you are the hero of a lot of kids in Chicago, that's a great achievement if you ask me.
This video pairing both of them makes even more sense now
It's funny to see this interview again now that Virgil has taken the place of Kim Jones as artistic director at Louis Vuitton menswear and that Kim Jones is now at Dior Homme.
Rest in piece, an icon.
kinda get it, listening to the interview you see virgil has the millenials, he has a vision thats structured as well as artistic. he speaks for a mass of hypebeast. Luxury brands are realizing NIKE can relate to MASS consumers and surprisingly has created luxury value in these limited edition or collectible pieces... I see Luxury brands dumbing down to gain Mass Consumers and stay relevant, which i don't quite get, because millenials outgrow streetwear, but ok. street wear is very basic and but is the popular relevant story and its merging luxury design to be relevant. High end is envious of the edge, and popularity. "street wear" is envious of cotour history, structure, value. everyones informed on how to build brands, but supreme/off white/fog, killed off most street brands and became the pinnacle of streetwear?... what happens next?
JOHN Doh well written.
vehemently agree. in the end, those who have “it” and don’t force it will always prosper. people will create what’s true to them instead of focusing on what’s hot & if it’s good, consumers will appreciate it. I feel this is all part of the process to get to the best end product, which will be a mix of the ethos of streetwear (to just create & get out your ideas, regardless of capital & infrastructure) and the technical skill & knowledge of these storied maisons.
If you have a true love for design, aesthetics & fashion you don’t grow out of street wear, you grow up to be Kim Jones, Virgil Abloh and the likes. These men were in their late 30’s to early 40’s
My only question is why is there such an emphasis on street wear, but not street people. Like actually use the people you’re getting inspiration from. Invoke the whole feeling and fully shine a light on the people who birth it.
they are. that’s why they keep throwing kids with no formal model experience in their shows.
culture was killed by over exposure.. the meteoric rise of trends over style killed us and subcultures
if you know ian connor? playboi carti? lil yacthy? stories, and yull delete your comment
@@icaprone1 maybe the culture yall are trying to take over.. but "street wear" is something before it was labeled, and it was created and is lived by the STREET PEOPLE Latasha is referring to. The rawness and realness of our culture is still alive, because we are still this people in these streets living the life that birthed it everyday. Yall are just trying to dress like us..
Great convo….thx🙏
Adding value to something people have already grown to love is a pure artistic gesture.
Rest Easy King V.
Our profession is basically trying to make Christmas presents. Cool way of looking at it.
Kanye said this in his interview with SHOW studio.
30 minutes in and just realizing this vid's in black and white...
Lmao
NAOMI CAMPBELL: HOW DID YOU GET THIS JOB? VIRGIL ABLOH: I DREAMT IT; WILLED IT INTO FRUITION... GONE TOO SOON DEAR VIRGIL, RIP MY NO.1 MENTOR IN DISGUISE
how is dennis not the most punk basketlayer of the time fym
"Louis Vuitton, straight from Kim Jones."
yo dis is all I was thinking about thru out dis talk omg #gang
Amazing conversation
Very inspiring
That Sacai windbreaker, my lord
it takes knowledge to be a wise consumer
LEGENDARY GLOW IN PARADISE VIRGIL ❤️
Yeah Off White maybe tacky af and not the best street wear brand
but you have to respect this guys vision and how he moves.
He also does incredible things with his womenswear line, idk what his deal is with not putting effort into menswear
No
I stay coming back to this interview damn Virgil made your own lane L.V designer and Owner Creator of Off-White
Uh No
40:06 Virgil hit they smooth dance move!
Terrible loss. RIP Virgil🙏🏻💔
Very calming atmosphere.
Not in my lifetime will I just be a consumer...
I've never heard someone talk as much and say as little as Virgil Abloh
NADS IQ no need to generalize, bro
Why do you say that I think he made a lot of good points on this generation, its tastes, what sets them apart from past generations, and the influence this generation has on the world of fashion. He fully recognized social media influence on fashion, which reaches even to the higher aspects of fashion. I thought this was a very interesting interview because both of these people come from the "streetwear" generation, with a background in very much casual/street fashion, urban fashion etc. This is a very interesting time for fashion to me because before this, it was mostly Japanese brands that produced this type of focus and had these type of people in the lead, but this is the first time to me that the western fashion world has become dominated by this area of fashion.
stfu
Read what you just wrote again, your doing it too then.
L
🙏
RIP Virgil
"YOU KNOW"
Well Dun Bro’s
Such a great discussion.
Crazy how Virgil ended up replacing him
@tmr he did , LV was really fortunate to have Kim initially bridge the gap, It was such a blessing having Virgil’s talents there.
RIP icon
💖💖💖💖💖
3:59 Of course he was part of the Hardcore scene in England. Music and Fashion are the same.
💖💖💖💖
And six months later... Lou did you know something was brewing between LVMH and Virgil? Did you have a vision or something?
Let Kim talk wow, jeez Virgil
This conversation is a vital and very important
for a lot of this interview virgil seems like a kid/teenager
Genius. RIP Virgil
Not genius
R.I.P. Virgil
Can someone explain to me why people seem to dislike Virgil so much? You see it in the comments, you see it in this thread... I keep seeing people call him a hack and an idea stealer. Anyone?
cuttingwedge Envy, they probably also think modern art is "trash" because "everyone can do it". Don't know what else to think.
cuttingwedge I like Virgil, but during his Pyrex era he did take the flannels from Ralph Lauren Rugby and put his logo on them. He also marked up the price thrice times over. So maybe from that aspect, but I love the deconstructed Nike's he has been doing.
because his black
Kevin Evans very true. I think what ppl should understand though is that was comparative to “high school” for him - learning thru trial & error b/c there was no way to get “in” the industry at the time to make clothing the “appropriate” way. we don’t shit on kids for making lemonade stands, or bracelets, or slime just because they aren’t legitimate, scalable businesses yet. we let them explore because that’s the practice & experience they need to succeed in the future. the difference is, he had the confidence to put it out regardless of what ppl thought / said, when most are too insecure.
Rip Virgil
lit
20:25 did he say Oakland!! Like Oakland California I’m from THERE RIP Virgil This info still MATTERS
one of my favourite in conversations. my three modern day heroes.
Frank Dean what about them, makes them your heroes?
Lou: Is Probably one of the most eloquent and researched fashion journalist, curator and broadcaster of her age. Having a book and 2 exhibitions under her belt under the age of 30. Who wouldn't want her to be your hero?
Kim: his fusion of sportswear and luxury craft has inspired today's most prolific trend; sports luxe. He is Menswear designer for LV only 10years after his graduation from CSM. His wealth of knowledge of British pop and subculture, along with a great creative and business mind, He is everything I would like to be at his age.
Virgil: How many other designers have you seen that have communicated in such a way with today's generation, than him? Virgil has a great commercial mindset and filled a gap in the market with Pyrex and currently with OFF-WHITE. he's also black, racial diversity within fashion is a problem, and he is a fantastic role model for anyone who feels like they can't break into the industry because they feel like their skin colour or where they are from would affect them.
To conclude, they just seem like fucking great people. And today, in the media there are far too many Kardashian-Jenner, Hadid's and Boybands that people call their heroes, that I'd much rather pick 3 intelligent, young and fascinating professionals than those mentioned earlier. That is what makes them my Heroes.
@@FrankD3an perfect reply bro
RIP
All these people hating on Virgil because they can’t afford a pair of Off whites.. y’all chill!
I was so excited to watch this but quickly realized this was about Nike and Jordans. Blah. I wanted to hear about their thoughts on luxury, their brands, their collections... The ethics around Jordan's manufacturing history is deplorable enough. I get it's a great product but... Ugh. Please have them back to talk about their own collections and menswear in general. Fuck Nike and all those terrible sportswear brands.
cuttingwedge I'm with you except for the hating on the sportswear brands at the end lol I just didn't want to hear about them in THIS video
Hehe. Yes. As a fashion enthusiast, I have zero interest in those giant sportswear brands. Nike to me is for working out and performance. I have never owned or worn something by Nike. Just not my thing. It's equivalent to Eddie Bauer or A&F for me. It's all branding as the product doesn't compare to say a Chapman bros LV piece. I get it though: hip hop culture, athletes, limited edition, streetwear culture... It's so desirable. Good for Nike. But I wouldn't be caught dead in Air Jordans. To each their own, yeah.
cuttingwedge although this collaboration is Virgil's biggest accomplishment so far with the "TEN". It's the biggest thing he's done and that's all thanks to Nike.
Armando Frias By "all", do you mean "entirely". You're saying Virgil wasn't a critical component in the process?
He did talk about his thoughts and how he sees vision and gets inspired by others.
very meta on the 26th of march
even more meta now that both Virgil and Kim have done AJ1's
Being mentored by Lee McQueen is possibly the greatest thing that could happen to you when
you aspireto be a fashion designer. What an amazing opportunity Kim had.
I would do anything for that opportunity, I hope he’s resting in peace 🙏
Straight edge
We love kim jones and we love virgil and thats the truth
"Virgil Abloh"
35 brands failed for Off-White to succeed? What does he mean by that?
So Kim joined Dior and Virgil replaced Kim...
46:06 undercover
God died 2021 💔 #Forever 🐐'd
OFF BLACK
I haven't heard Kim say anything about Vuitton Supreme at all and I just skipped to the part where Lou said to not ask any questions about that because she's heard too much about it ... Okay then. Shutting this video down. Bah.
I don’t see cancer affects
Michael was maybe the most punk player of his time?!?!?!?!?! FOH!!!
Kim Jones is everything.
Kim is very fidgety...
" PRETENTIOUS "
and i suppose you're not?
nv = " INSECURE "
All these hate comments targeted at virgil must be sarcastic.
they're just jealous white people 😂. Normal white people don't hate.
Does Off-white actually have respect in the "street culture" or is it just a hypebeast brand that has a tacky vibe because people like Bieber and ricegum wore it in a very " fuckboy" way.
Virgil seems like a nice guy, but I hope he knows.
hype beast mostly but the culture adored the nikelab collab
Nike has more respect in street culture lol.
Adidas has more respect in street culture.
the interviewer looks bored af
to those that dislike Virgil and his brand I'd like to ask why. honest question lol
Saiamrad Williams he tries so hard to be accepted in the fashion industry and it doesn't come across as genuine tbh.
Abercrombieindya what do you mean by "wants to be accepted in the fashion industry" ? isn't he already "in" or is he trying too hard get the acceptance of notable fashion heads like Louis, Fendi and etc? I really want to know your perspective on it.
Because he's black
He references "culture" yet does not clearly describe what it is, or rather what he means by it. Virgil's "Off-White" is uninspiring and flat.
"Culture" is pretty much the hiphop movement
everything black is culture
Yellow Synth I tried to be nice about it 😂😂
thats kind of the point behind Off-White. He describes is as the color between white and black or something.. idk, but Off-White is all about defining things such as culture. thats why he uses quotation marks so much. He explains it as defining what something is using society and "culture" instead of a straight forward dictionary. It just so happens that American street culture (hip hop or everything black lol) is the culture he is most involved with. I wouldnt say hes trash, but i wouldnt say hes revolutionary. He just has a cool idea and hes expanding on it.
yet you clicked on the video to watch ha
Cultural shift
Virgil has a lot of razor bumps
CAN SOMEONE COUNT HOW MANY TIMES VIRGIL USES THE WORD "LIKE" IN HIS SENTENCES?
.. Does it matter… really!!…
His gifts ambitions and 💥talent sustain a million.. likes!!🎆🥰….
And your ‘like’ ….small/ weak minded and jealous …. No talent needed for that!’
Just ‘ petty ness’
Rest In Peace and beautiful paradise .. thank you.. ✨💥we love u.. your brilliance will be missed🌟
Virgil A.
Ashe’
Virgil is now forever the GOAT
Rayhan Ali no
NOW
Virgil borrows, Kim steals.
Borrowing = Taking inspiration and failing to surpass the standard previously set.
Stealing = Taking inspiration and building upon it and in turn making it your own.
What is this assertion based on? Got any sources?
failure is subjective & ultimately immeasurable. to creators, getting ideas out into the world is success - therefore, he could never fail.
Lol u still wanna back that statement? Kim has brought Dior to places they haven’t been to before.
Being attached to a MEGA corporation like NIKE is not PUNK, CUTTING EDGE, or whatever you want to call it. Being a lackey for Nike is not something to aspire to or be proud of in my opinion. I guess it goes to prove that if you convince someone that piece of shit is made of gold you have talent?
Exactly. Here here. At least with LV, there's some edge in injecting Jones' amazing vision into a tired old lady brand. There's something fun about that.
i learnt a new word today, everyone in my groupchat's getting called a lackey
ITSFULLOFSTARS1 try designing ten pairs of Nike’s biggest kicks and put a resale value on it
Try feeding a family in need Fuck Face....Merry Fucking Christmas.
ITSFULLOFSTARS1 already doing it mate👍
Kim Jones is an authentic person but when it comes to Virgil, everything seemed like he’s trying so hard to be relevant in fashion.
I mean whether you like it or not. He isn't "trying too hard to be relevant in fashion" . He is relevant
It seems like he’s seeking acceptance.
AQGOAT24 relevant yes but doesn't mean good
AQGOAT24 and that is exactly why his the head designer for mens LV. Good on him
truthfully, he just has a different approach. he’s not the first designer to try to capture the spirit of the youth, but he’s the first to make a conscious effort to speak to them directly & in a language they understand. he’s earned the right to be passionate, he didn’t just jump in the game lacking respect for the history - he studied, interned, went thru trial & error, failed & succeeded just oike every other person with aspirations of becoming a respected designer.
When you're in the illuminati you can do whatever you want. #virgil
To be such an educated man, Virgil uses "like" way too much
is that supposed to insinuate he’s any less intelligent?
Kim Jones is completely overrated!!!
“Let’s pretend it’s an art movement, cause that’s what it is” 🤡🤡🤡
Virgil Abloh is not inspiring or representative of real culture he patronises and dribbles about it
good to know you feel better about yourself now.
I think Kanye is more of a creator.
what is “real culture”? maybe you feel he doesn’t respresent your culture, but that’s ultimately subjective. personally, I feel very well represented by anyone who actually cares about contributing to the culture. he’s created moments that will inspire kids for many years to come.
"YOU KNOW"