How Vegeta Handled Super Saiyan Blue Evolved In The Manga
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Vegeta wasn't overwhelmed when he fought Granola. He was actually able to hold his own pretty well in that form.
Yeah no Granola dropped Vegeta out of the form and had him coughing blood.
@@shadowslayer9988 That's because he probably hit him in a vital point. Vegeta was holding his own against him in that fight. Vegeta showed his battle experience - Granola lacks that experience.
@@shadowslayer9988 vegeta was doing very well in that fight in fact he even said himself that he was getting stronger
Bro got one tap idk what kind of drugs you on
@@BiggestYutaGlazerInHistory You gettin' one shot is not proof that you didn't do well. I mean, imagine if you were fighting someone on the streets 1v1 and managing to handle the situation expertly for a while, perhaps even beating them, but out of nowhere they just pull up a gun and shoot you, leaving you dead to rights. Does that mean you weren't competent in the first place? Just because of the bad result?
TECHNICALLY, Vegeta would’ve humbled Moro if it wasn’t for goddam villain plot armor there just to make Goku look good and defeat Moro.
Fr Vegeta deserved that dub more than anyone.
Facts he would've had him all by himself
Just like with Frieza, in Fukastsu No F.
He also would've humbled Golden Freeza.
@@ZmanImaGameron gee
By this point we can all agree vegeta lacks only one thing
Plot armour 😂😂😂
Legit Goku and Vegeta got no plot armor they been shown this the only one with plot armor in this show is Mr satan
@@XenoVibezz blud said goku got no plot Armor 💀💀
@@MaterialPlatinum Liking your own comment doesn’t mean you right little dude. Goku doesn’t have plot armor because he barely got wins in dragon ball 7 arcs he only beat the red ribbon army then king piccolo then won his first tournament in the 23rd world martial arts tournament after legit losing 21st and 22nd. Now dragon ball z he only killed Kid Buu and died twice in Z because bardock wish only worked when he was teen once he was an adult it doesn’t apply to Goku and raditz no more. Trunks timeline was our original timeline also and Goku stayed dead in that because no dragon balls which the whole show is about. In Super timeline Goku only killed Frieza when in super he lost to Beerus and Hit and Fused Zamasu and wasn’t the last one standing in Tournament of Power and had to fuse with Vegeta to beat Broly and Defeated Moro after losing someone close to him and losing a bunch of times and then lost to granolah and then gas then frieza in granolah arc and SUPER HERO ARC HE LEGIT LOST TO VEGETA made it 1-0 for Vegeta so saying Goku has plot armor is stupid when other people got more kills and wins than Goku in the series.
@@XenoVibezz ultra instinct
@@MaterialPlatinum little dude huh? It was built up from og dragon ball master Roshi even used it in the manga it’s legit just a instinct a technique from the angels and not a form
Vegeta didn't win cause plot doesn't want that.
His “loss” to Moro was complete BS. Vegeta had literally the PERFECT counter for Moro and they still wouldn’t let him get the victory.
I mean, in the manga, that's the first time goku uses perfect ultra instinct
@@adumaxster01 so what? Perfect UI was not needed here. Vegeta could have gotten the win and Perfect UI could have been saved for something else more important or impactful. Using Perfect UI in that moment cheapens it I feel, just like they did in the Granolah arc.
@@TheDrock08 I agree. It didn't make much sense why Goku would use it. Least how it was written made no sense. Moro is a perfect fit for the mastering of MUI, Moro can't steal abilities if he's not able touch you right? But that arc made MUI less of a flow state, and just another amp which is boring imo, takes the fun out of the transformation
He didn't lose, if anything Goku really be losing because he ALWAYS get help. If it wasn't for that energy from Uub then the whole earth would be dead then they'd have to run to Namek to use the DragonBalls since Vegeta did that spirit fusion Thang.
@@TheDrock08the whole arc was getting goku to get a better understanding of UI and transform into that silver haired form. It was the perfect time for him to use it.
Beerus is the goal post that keeps on moving.
ikr 70% of his full power my ass to fight the first red form haha based on that he must at least be using 90% to take on blue evolved. DB power scaling never made sense in the first place tho so not surprising
@@dankc60That's what you call bad writing , they would have saved themselves so much confusion by not providing that comment, and to make it worse, was when to attempt to Hype up Jiren, they claimed he surpassed his God of Destruction, which then further confuses us when he is defeated but we gotta believe Berus is much much stronger than his fellow GoD 🤷🏻. No consistency whatsoever
I'm not gonna take away Toriyama's status as one of the best (RIP), but lore and consistency wise, he was one of the worst. Plenty of times he's said that he was "forgetful".
@@ralpharambe163 yeah I'm not gonna place the full blame of some of the plot holes and retcons that have appeared in Dragon Ball Super, as I don't think Toriyama was putting out everything by himself, Toriyama wrote OG DragonBall and Z solidly. Super I really blame Toei and whoever is Toriyama's editor's, who don't help remind him of some of the established plots and details. Toriyama needed to be forgetful of things in order to make room for new ideas. He wasn't a machine. RIP to the sensei 🙏🏻.
Isn't it obvious, he's training when he sleeps, therefore leveling up all the time in secret.
Vegeta Handled blue evolution pretty well but he deserves a bloody win dammit like he's only win in Blue evolution is Toppo from the tournament of power
Like, blue and blue evolved has a win rate of... low
Still hell of a mfn win cause toppo is like a young beerus in training but from universe 11 an apart of the pride troopers 2nd only too jiren the grey as well like 😂😂😂😂 vegeta literally blocked destruction energy in this form evaporated it with his own energy I WONT HEAR IT 😂😂😂it’s a dub for me
So what you're saying is it did better than mui in top
@@kingkitty026 Just ignore the fact that Goku 100% would have beat Jiren in MUI if it hadn't been for the time limit.
@@RejectedRecords1998 so not a win
I cannot wait for this Saga to get an anime adaptation.
Eventually my boys, eventually 😅
Maybe in 2030, hopefully
Akira already said last year once the last 2 arcs is done before the end of Z reboot then the anime production will start so not that long give it a year or 2 then it be back so just enjoy daima in the meantime
@@provoscarf6466 lol dear god I wanna say "dude don't jinx it!! 😆" but to your credit, you may be spitting 😭
@@XenoVibezz I've heard someone mention that before. Is there an article where he confirmed that?
And to be honest, will that be enough? Let's say they decided to re-adapt the Broly Saga and Super Hero Saga with the Pre Super Hero and Aftermath content added as well. Even with a few filler episodes thrown in as well.
That's only like 4 Sagas, Super would have to be a seasonal release otherwise it would quickly catch up again I feel.... They really gotta release the chapters more than just a month to stay ahead. Having 12 a year, it slows the pace massively
Yeah pin this please, wonder how old ill be when it happens 😂😂
He’s actually 2-2 he won against toppo and Moro and lost to moro and granolah
And Beerus.
@@MillerMakesSo 2-3?
@@Ninjagoda15 basically yea
@@Ninjagoda15why count training bounts and its beerus that’s not fair he is 2-2
@@GoosebumpTheBumperHe still lost to Beerus so 2-3
I wanna see spirit control vegeta in the anime and he deserves A WIN DAMMIT!
Yardrat Vegeta looks soo cold 🥶 😤
No one talking about the DRIP on my man Vegeta when he went to Yardrat?
It seems like an eternity since we last had an official DragonBall anime series.
Legit not that long ago
The form looks so good tho
Vegeta keeps taking Ls as always. When will this change
As sad as it is to have lost Toriyama, I do hope that when they come back they will have Vegeta get some wins. I just want to see a time where Vegeta is the one that can finish a fight instead of Goku.
@@Aglaeca116 toriyama already had minimal input in dbs. Iirc, he doesn't write the story and decide who wins or loses in super. It's all Toyotaro.
But, I hope after toriyama's passing vegeta's gets some Ws
@alatus_knight Nope, that's not true. Toriyama wrote plot points for the arcs. Vegeta was involved in every arc and not supposed to win. How he lost just wasn't written by Toriyama. It was Toei and Toyotaro.
Idk what YALL complaining about Vegeta got way more wins than Goku ever have I don’t see the problem top he got multiple wins and broly both Vegeta and Goku took L to go to gogeta and Moro arc Vegeta did his part well managing getting him and Goku a dub and gronalah arc nobody got Ws only L both Goku and Vegeta and super hero arc he beat Goku and broly 💀
@@alatus_knightyou got the whole thing wrong akira did the story while toyotaro helped with the story also and did the illustrations and akira did changes with toyotaro work and did little illustrations but not as much as toyotaro and to hope things will change because of his death is crazy disrespectful you probably haven’t read dragon ball af and dragon ball heroes by toyotaro
Wild that Vegeta mastered Spirit Control and is referred to as being Reborn, the one thing Goku hasn't mastered but it still outshine. But, at least Vegeta proved that he is the better fighter.
Nothing against the late Toriyama but that's one of the one things I think will benefit from DBZ being under new management.
Maybe and characters like Vegeta and Piccolo will actually get some shine for once.
@@manrightcheathey got shine multiple times 😂 and piccolo is akira favorite character
@@XenoVibezztbf besides the superhero movie where he was also outshined there really werent much moments of piccolo's character being used after the cell arc his favorite character may have been piccolo but he never showed bias towards him qhich is great but character wise both tien and piccolo needed those power ups seeing as how they are the only z fighters besides goku and vegeta who still train
@@manrightcheapeople like you never seem to realize even in non canon Vegeta don't beat the big bad. Who'd he beat in super dragon ball heroes. It's not a Toriyama thing, it's a shonen thing 😑hell it's just a protagonist thing if you really wanna dig into it
Goku is the better fighter
He also learned teleportation
Not learned more like did it by chance.
@@lackypub8624he learned it what are you even saying
he went to yardrat the place where goku learned instant transmission and he learned form the inhabitants there
@gabrielcharles4235 vegeta himself stated in the manga after he used instant transmission and teleported to goku said he can't use it again did you even read the manga and only watched through youtube shorts ?
He isn't gonna/can't use it again
To those who blindly say Vegeta gets nothing here, Goku wouldn’t have even had a chance of winning without him. Vegeta’s Spirit Fission performed in reverse was all Vegeta. Moreover, The entire theme of Moro’s defeat is that not any one person did defeat him. It took the combined efforts of everyone in attendance, even Uub.
That is the case for every villain since the Frieza Saga. It means absolutely nothing since the spoils always go to Goku. It's not blindly saying Vegeta gets nothing, because if getting the final blow really meant so little, the writers would've allowed Vegeta to do it by now.
@@Scoundr3ll Yea, except in the Cell saga, the best Vegeta has is contributing to the Perfect form and a cheap shot on Cell's back. In the Freeza saga, he did more. The Buu saga, he contributes to the awakening of Majin Buu, then fails in his final explosion. He has a rage boost in Battle of Gods that farther makes SSJ3 irrelevant, he gets the W stolen from his blatantly in Revival of F, he loses to Hit in Universe 6 altogether, and his only W on Goku Black was after 10 months of training that got instantly downplayed by BOTH Gokus. So no, this is not the case for every villain since the Freeza saga. Vegeta legitimately plays a crucial role in this battle to a point where they would have guaranteed lost without him.
THANK YOU Vegeta fans are the worst.
Colored manga ah yes very nice.
Toyotaro really taking after toriyama with the whole “Vegeta is my least favorite character” bit. Despite having one of the best character arcs
Remember at the time, Toriyama was at the helm and always designed the story so that Goku would be the one snagging victory in the end. Not Toyotaro's fault
Not his fault bro Toriyama was still main head of house for the manga
You people will never learn that Dragon Ball is the story of GOKU.
@@RejectedRecords1998 wrong all the way hombre🤣🤦🏻♂️ only is due to crybaby fans!! Og dragon ball is his story, but Dbz is the story of Gohan. Only ruined by fans, thus him coming back from the dead during the buu arc and after Gohans first official arc as MC.
That is one of my favorite formed of all time that came from The Saiyan Prince!
Technically he unlocked it ever since the ToP in the manga, but that’s beside the point
Technically, it's not SSB Evo. It's Mastered SSGSS.
@@Alassandroshe got master ssj blue after the goku black arc. He got ssj blue evolution in the tournament of power.
@@michealbanksjr.3630 Actually, there's three forms of SSB in the manga. The first was shown when he trained with Goku early on in yhe Universe 6 arc where it has a plain aura and no blue flames. They both managed to achieve the next level during the Universe 6 tournament arc and it has bits of blue flame in the aura. Then Vegeta managed to achieve the final blue aura in which it's made up entirely of the blue flame during the ToP. They also have a technique for enhancing the SSB form temporarily by pulling in all their aura into their body.
The names for these forms have never been said in the story so as far as I'm concerned, they don't have names. I used to use "initial ssgss", "advanced ssgss", "mastered ssgss", and "ssgss completion technique".
@@Alassandros you have regular ssb, then perfected or mastered ssb, and then blue evolved. Goku got perfected ssb during his fight with fused zamasu. Vegeta got perfected ssb during his fight with beerus after the goku black arc. Ssb evolved is what vegeta got during the tournament of power against toppo.
@@michealbanksjr.3630 The perfected technique you're talking about is not a full form. Vegeta can do it while in the SSB 3rd Grade against Beerus. Goku did it in SSB 2nd Grade. The technique you call "Perfected SSB" is like Kaioken.
Blue evolution suits Vegeta fr. And his spirit fission was working tho. I'm sorry but he gotta stop putting his thumb up fr. Most of time he does it, he gets a L
No it's time for the writers to stop f-ing him over.
@@manrightchea which they did some of events in super and Z. But it's the damn thumbs up pose. Goku did it and his ass whoop by Raditz.
He gets the L regardless of what he does. The thumb thing is irrelevant.
Long story short
Vegeta still couldn't kill a main villian and he is behind Goku in training
Goku worked harder it’s that simple and Ultra Instinct is leagues above that yardrat skill😂
@swampfire9382 Ragebait is crazy. Vegeta works just as hard as Goku and the skill he learned on Yardrat can negate absorption so its just as useful as UI considering alot of their villains steal energy. Plot just doesn't want him beating main villains this isn't anything new
@@StreetSeekerbro trained to copy angels vegeta trained to spilt fucking fusions bro the goat☠️
Vegeta 3-0 vs goku
@@Aka326 This is true also, Goku doesn't have a canonical W against Vegeta
Unfortunately Vegeta is the one used to showcase how strong all the enemies in the series are, so he's always going to have a horrendous record.
Vegeta is 1-4 at Life
This man has never got a significant w
And he is long overdue for one
Nah I swear every single time something great happens to Vegeta they give the villain plot armor
i actualyl thought Vegeta was gonna get a win fr but then the plot came in and gave Goku the shine like always. same thing happened with Granolah. they gotta give him the win against Frieza at least bro. out of all people it has to be him and/or Beerus
for me he won vs granolah and was stronger than ui goku vs granolah thats enough for me :d
Nah Goku ui is stronger. Because super Saiyan blue kaioken is équal with blue evolved.
Granolah had Vegeta on the ground about to die what you mean? Am I forgetting a fight?
@@piolinrt3919blue evolved is a little bit stronger than blue Kaioken
@@piolinrt3919Blue evolved is WAY stronger than kioken and it’s not even close. If anything blue evolved is closer to powers with ultra instinct then kioken
@@JakeFromStateFarm456no he is not remember kaioken times 20?
Can’t wait for this to get animated.
He learned to harness his spirit as well as learned "spirit fission on Yardrat. He helped gave Moro the business.
Was it said outright that the form Vegeta uses in the manga is Blue Evolution? Cause it looks like regular Blue to me
i think it’s the way that the aura is drawn that differentiates blue from blue evolution
In the manga SSBE is a darker blue than regular ssb. You can see it earlier in the arc
Man, it's wild that no one knows this. There really needs to be a video on the differences between the SSB forms of the anime and manga.
What this is in the manga is not SSB Evo. It's called "Mastered SSGSS". The manga has three different aura transformations for SSB.
The first form is called "Initial SSGSS" and has blue hair, blue eyes, and white aura.
The next is "Advanced SSGSS" and it has a white aura with bits of small blue flames mixed in. This is as high as Goku gets.
The third form "Mastered SSGSS and the entire aura is blue flame. Only Vegeta has achieved this form.
There is also a technique that maximizes the SSB form. The user draws their aura into their body in this technique. This is called the "completion of the SSGSS form" technique. Both Goku and Vegeta can do this any of the three forms.
Toyotaro released a supplemental explanation years ago. There should be an image of it if you Google the term "Initial SSGSS".
@@Alassandros there’s only 2 versions of Ssb. With the aura is just ssb without the aura is perfected ssb both goku and vegeta have this. Then ssbe is only with vegeta only and his aura and hair is a slightly darker blue than ssb. You can clearly tell the difference if you compare the official colored pages of both versions. There are no physical differences like there is in the anime
@@Alassandrosit's ssb in the manga for the coined term. The anime doesn't do this
With this being said
There is the initial ssb
Mastered ssb or perfected ssb that keeps the aura close to the body
There is a ssb stack with principles of kaioken goku uses on jiren in the manga
Vegeta surpassing the form of mastered ssb is called ssb:evolved.
The anime counterpart is ssb evolution
Vegeta needs a win, they keep selling on my guy
I wanna badly see this in anime. From buu saga to moro arc, only bulma, kakarot(unknowingly), and chichi recognized vegeta's changed of heart. Now even piccolo had to admit he changed a lot.
Blue evolved is basically vegetas go to transformation before having to go full power with Ego
And ultra ego lost in its debut right? Hate to say it, but until the authors stop hating Vegeta, his form don't mean anything. Give him ssj4 ultra ego, dudes gonna lose and Goku will use something else to win
Uh, the author of the series died man.
@@coconut572that’s dark…. But I do hope Toyotaro will give characters like Vegeta and other minor characters more development and more moments to truly shine.
I want to se Vegeta defeat Black Frieza
Well I guess Akira Toriyama took that shit to his grave then.. may he rest in peace
Still not enough for Beerus or Black Frieza
IDK about the manga admittedly; it does fail to take down Jiren, the person against whom Vegeta first uses it but it also does beat Toppo so it gets that one win at least.
While I prefer Goku to Vegeta I still believe they wasted the specialness of Ultra Instinct Vegeta was beating Moro effortlessly and would’ve won too MUI Goku could’ve been saved
(Nappa's voice):VEGETA!!! What is the reason u get new forms the villans keep shitting on you?
Vegeta: It's always Plot Armoooooorrrr!!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂
Keep up the amazing work
writers trying to not shit on vegeta after his overconfidence speech and power up: impossible
yard rat? translations are hilarious
Imma still say this shouldve been named Super Saiyan Royal Blue
Sparking zeros has blue evolved looking like this, and gave him gamma burst flash. Interesting
Glad to hear he uses it again
Wild that he trained on yardrat and didn’t learn instant transmission
I love the Moro arc it needs to get animated
Really underrated form
I love the fan name of the Evolved form. Royal Blue.
That or Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 2.
Everyone thought it was Super Saiyan Blue 2, but it was really just Super Vegeta Blue (imagine a pensive emoji here)
I want to see Ultra Ego Vegeta and Ultra Instinct Goku use the potara earrings. that should create Ultra Vegito.
Bro tha form actually strong asf looking at the feats bro jus got no plot armor 😂😂😂
I just want to say that his form in the manga is not SSBE it’s just the perfected SSGSS the aura’s are different plus you can tell that it’s different because of the eyes and plus Dbs manga characters are completely different from the show
is no one gonna mention the subtitles randomly became spanish for no reason
The day I’ll stop being a a dragonball fan is the day Vegeta doesn’t kill black frieza
I want an arc where vegeta out classes goku first for once and if the reason the universe is saved
He pushed Blue Evolved to be equivalent to UI Sign, but it doesn't seem to have stamina issues that form has.
ain't no way bro called the moro arc, the "galactic patrol prisoner saga"
This isn't Blue Evolution! This is perfected Super Saiyan Blue damn it! Blue Evolution has buffed up muscles like Super Saiyan Grade 2 and has pupils in the eyes. This here is perfected Super Saiyan Blue.
I wonder if will finally get a Vegeta win in the next arc
Let's put it simply. "Pride comes before the fall" remember that kids, which is why vegeta always loses.
Only thing that stops vegeta from getting his victory - weak plot armour
Did I remember wrong? I remember that manga doesn't have ssjbe and doesn't have ssjbkk×20, only have Perfect Ssjb
Vegeta never wins important fights
Vegeta is a great One
I think one day it’ll be vegeta’s turn to save the day but not on earth tbh
I hate that these forms don’t amount to anything. They never take down the main threat and then they het a new one and it repeats
I know we need to make our boys stronger. Stop giving vegeta's new forms Just.
Because he needs to be stronger doesn't mean he always has to lose his fights all the damn time.He literally has to get built out like a devil in distress.What he's fighting a stronger or poetic that he can't take on by himself
SSJB evolved in the manga looks like the pinnacle of ssjb overall, I wonder why Goku never unlocked it
(In the manga it’s depicted as the final level of ssjb, whereas in the anime it’s completely new and unique, that’s why I don’t think Goku could get it in the anime)
Should have been called Royal Blue
OP
Blue evolved doesn’t honestly seem that far off in power compared to UI and UE. He went toe to toe with Granolah in SSjBE, Held his own for a while, and even took some small W’s during the fight. Of course he needed ultra ego to turn the tides entirely in his favour, but it’s still interesting to note that SSjBE isn’t all that weak compared to the higher divine forms.
1-3 for sure. That being said, I wouldn't call the Granolah battle an L, as it was merely a prelude to Ultra Ego.
Just Imagine If Gogeta Used SSBE..it would be really OP
Vegeta held his own against moro and bodied moro before moro turned tail and absorbed 73. Vegeta also bodied granolah and put the fear of God in him. Unspoken effect on UE is he puts the fear into you from his unhinged God of destruction power.
1 and 3
Actually is not the evolved but is just the normal blue but he learned how to keep his ki from leaking (something that goku learned to do on the black arc)
He never won a fight since that guy on buu saga 😂
I give super a lot of crap, but I will admit that vegeta finally getting some main character respect is pretty cool.
When will new episodes be released I've been waiting since the beast gohan movie 😭
superhero takes place after the manga arcs, just read the manga, they're only making movies now
Bro if super has taught me anything is that whatever’s blue it means ya f*cking lose
What's the background music bro??
Ay once he can use spirit control and UE he gonna be broken
Super saiyan blue itself is the most unsuccessful power up ever tell me how many fights have they won with blue lmao
Will they ever animate these arcs?
Blue Evolved doesn't exists as a transformation in the manga. It's just a power-up like Blue Kaioken.
In fact, it didn't even appear in the Interval Special which featured all transformations from OG to Super thus indicating Blue Evolved not being a transformation.
Most of vegeta l’s really be villain plot armor or that one time his ego ruined himself..
He can now steal beerus god Ki and use it for ultra ego
Imagine wishing to be the strongest in the universe only for people to just power up past how strong you are 😂😂😂
Y’all ever realize that SSB evo is just the SS2 version of SSB
no bro
Vegeta would have beat him but you know the plot would never let vegeta win
Theory: SSJ Blue evolution is just ssj grade 2 with god ki
Shouldn't it be Grade 4
Grade 2 is the one they used against Semi-Perfect Cell
The bulky one
@@aleanddragonITAit’s more so SSJB2, think about it he got it after mastering Blue in the Anime and Perfecting Blue in the Manga.
He defeated toppo in the t.o.p with this form
W
You got a good point but lay off my boy !😂😂😂
We need yardrat Vegeta in sparking zero
Accept it vegeta fanboys. He's just a supporting character
Its called plot cant let him get a win
I wonder how much of this will be lost in the anime :/
I’m going to kiss this form(.Unpopular opinion )
They keep trying my boy 😭