The Impact of Mold Within an HVAC System
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- čas přidán 17. 07. 2024
- Within this video, I'm particularly displeased with the fact that the HVAC system being discussed was "cleaned" so terribly by an AC contractor. Having recently assessed this property, making recommendations and writing a protocol in the process, I expected to return to find the air conditioning system in an improved state.
This type of subpar work happens more often than you'd expect. The fact that I was able to catch this and provide feedback to the resident is more than many individuals can say. Don't just assume that a professional is doing a professional job! Ask for documentation, ask questions, build rapport and don't hesitate to "trust, but verify" and see the completed work yourself.
In my 20+ years in the A/C industry. I have opened, worked on, repaired and serviced thousands of A/C systems. Every single system I have ever worked on has some level of mold growth. I never called it mold, I always referred to it as unidentified particulate matter as we were not testing it to determine officially that it is MOLD.. I don't care how well you maintain the system, how much air flow you have running through it or how much return air. EVERY single system has some level of mold growth. It is a dark, cold, wet environment, it will grow something...
Very well said! The more investigations that I do, the more I see just this. Even so, there are systems that see a “normal” level of mold/fungi accumulation and those that look like this. This is not normal and should not be expected. Lack of maintenance is likely a major reason why this has gotten this bad.
I’ll gladly call this mold, when I procure a sample. However, in the instance of someone like yourself merely viewing this, I think you’re spot on with your approach.
Thank you for your comment! I had 10x the amount of 'dark matter' inside my unit. Cleaned everything the best I could with bleach rags and some coil cleaner spray. After lots of research I've concluded its from leaving the FAN to ON for the past 2 years; and being a 5 ton oversized unit; and some 'dryer vent' discharge into the intake for 'free heat'... I also reprogramed my thermostat to 2 cycles per hour from 3. Yearly cleaning is in order for me until replacement time. But again, thank you for your comment Supercool; makes me feel a little safer!
@@Kris-jk9mq If your venting your dryer into your system your providing nice line to culture many things. While growth is in almost all units best to not help promote it. Once cleaned there are some products out there can be sprayed every year that minimizes this to almost zero
@@jonsaircond8520 Thanks for the reply! The dryer discharge was filtered on the end with a ladies stalking, but ya it probably did not help my situation any. Please name some of the products that can be used inside that is safe with the copper and A-frame. I am very interested!
Fyi to anyone reading: Do not vent your dryer into your hvac system. It is a great idea in theory but doing so greatly raises the chance of mold and bacteria occurance and proliferation. Just a thought, but if you really wanted to use the heat from your dryer you could make a sort of radiator/ heat exchanger using dryer ventilation duct work or a custom made contraption that could be inline somewhere in the duct work of your hvac so that the hvac fan could be used instead of making a dedicated system using only the dryer vent piping. Whatever you do DO NOT PIPE DRYER EXHAUST DIRECTLY INTO HVAC OR LIVING AREA. Hot extremely humid air will create all sorts of problems in a home and apart from using a dehumidifier you will likely not dehumidify enough with an ac unit to counter the humidity produced. Only use the heat via radiant heat from exhaust duct of dryer. Keep in mind also that there are other complications like having to clean the piping regularly because of lint and build up which will be compounded by removing the heat from the pipe causing condensation and build up. Just my thought. Take it for what it is worth. I have been an auto tech for 17 years and I am pretty handy but I am not an engineer by any means.
I’ve heard about this type of “craftsmanship” happening WAY too many times. Albeit, ive only read about these stories online, but it’s still terrifying
It’s especially prevalent in rental communities, where the maintenance staff changes the filters monthly. Unfortunately, that’s about the only service that’s done to these units, for extended periods of time.
I personally find this less in single family homes, when homeowners have maintenance contracts with an HVAC company. Granted, I’ve seen some where I ask myself what the maintenance contract consists of, as they’re clearly not doing much.
Terrifying, indeed.
I love that you are passionate. Mold is brutal to the immune system. It can tank you. Medical Medium has a great podcast on mold and the immune system
Thanks for sharing! I can hear the passion in your voice as well. Mold is definitely a bit underrated at times.
You are amazingly HONEST!!! I am having issues with my HVAC and after looking at this and the photos the tech showed me today, how did it get to this level of mold if I have been having it serviced and cleaned and no other tech from same company did not mention one word about this mold and the level of dirtiness is unreal. Your suggestion of before and after photos of when the tech comes, God Bless as I never thought of that. Honestly, H O N E S T Y is such a thing of the past...WOW just WOW. Thank you so much for this video and each step of what things are and look like...
We all need to know this, thank you for sharing and being honest!
Absolutely! There are too many folks that feel like this much growth within an air handler is normal. It amazes me that I still have to have these conversations with some professionals.
Would enjoy seeing a follow up a video on how you collect samples for analytics and what the testing results look like. Interpretation of results and finally what labs are reputable and occasionally split samples to verify their own results.
Sounds like a great idea for a video! Will report back when I’ve got something uploaded with this content included.
Thanks for the input, JP!
Nice job Josh.
@IAQJosh great video! Do any HVAC purification systems actually kill mold like the Reme Halo, GPS, iWave?
Hi Josh
Thank you so much for this video. I just moved to Florida little over a month ago, and a funky scent lead me to this. I had 3 contractors came out 2 said they will clean it. The last contract came out today 9/30/21 and he said he said will do a dis-service to me to clean but it needs to be replace. It is 2 bedroom 2 an d half bath townhouse. To be honest my system almost looks identical to your video. I wish I could have attach pictures to show you.
This contractor told me it is best to replace the whole unit. I will appreciate your feed back.
My apologies for the belated response here, as I missed seeing your question at the end. I’m sure you’ve already made a decision regarding your situation, but my experience has been that a system as impacted as this should be strongly considered for replacement. Especially if this is an older unit.
The grill you showed with growth on it is the paint giving it something to grow on. Went through this with a builder that insisted on painting them. We found that if you just put latex paint directly on the paint that comes on them they will do that. You can greatly reduce this by using rattle can primer before putting on any latex paint. Also sealing the boots to the sheet rock can reduce the temperature difference alot when system is not running.
Sounds like great advice! May have to try that out some day. I’ve personally found that the factory painted/ anodized grilles tend to hold up the best against fungal growth. Next to that, the grilles painted with a semi-gloss paint, as opposed to a flat paint tend to also hold up much better.
Thanks for the tip!
Keeping humidity down in your home and not positioning grilles by exits/entrance will stop the moisture/mold from forming. It has to grab the water vapor out of the air to sweat. Mold will grow on anything eventually with the help of bacterial biofilms and moisture, even on cement.
Truely ThankYou!
Happy to help!
Mine looks a little worse than that. I've tried
Concrobium + dehumidifier,
UV lights,
Peroxide,
Ozone machine,
Decon 30,
and still have a strange smell.
Is it best to get a mold specialist or HVAC person?
That’s quite the assortment of products and devices that you’ve tried! As far as your question is concerned, a mold and HVAC contractor pairing is always preferred. Sometimes you can get by with an HVAC professional that has knowledge of mold/fungi, but more often than not, it’s best to get a team together.
Out of curiosity, what percent peroxide did you try out?
OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO! I FEEL FAINT LEARNING ABOUT MY HIDEOUS MOLD INFESTED RENTAL HOME & HVAC SYSTEM YIKES! OMG I'M CRYING AT THE DARN START OF THE DAY sigh!
So sorry to hear you’re dealing with this. It’s a double edged sword knowing about the impact of mold within an HVAC system. If you don’t know it’s there, it’s sometimes easier on the mind, unless you’re seeing health effects, of course.
However, when you know it’s there, regardless of health effects, most folks will want to deal with it.
Best of luck with your situation!
Also - would this system be blowing mold within the house and if so, how would you get rid of that mold in the air/furniture/wall etc?
Given the location of the mold growth, it's very likely that mold spore fragments are being blown into the indoor air quality every time that the AC system kicks on. The good news in these situations, so long as the relative humidity is not very high, is that you primarily dealing with settled particulate (spore, spore fragments, dust, etc). You're not as worried about mold growing within soft goods, porous furniture, etc.
In most situations, a thorough detailed cleaning, using a HEPA vacuum and damp wiping surfaces is sufficient - so long as the source it addressed. The good news is that hiring the right mold assessor/ industrial hygienist will provide you with the documentation and accompanying recommendations that you'll need!
Hi Roxanne, Mold was found the beginning of last year, we did nothing about it. Today I got lab results of what I thought was just an ear infection, yes, mold.
How do you get test because I’m continuously getting ear infections
Can you do a video talking about how a ceiling AC unit is supposed to work in an apartment. I'm just curious as to is how they are safe at all! Where does that moisture vent to?
Hi Alison! 👋 First and foremost, I am not an HVAC professional. A qualified, knowledgeable AC contractor will always be your best bet for precise information relating to air conditioning systems.
With that said, I’m happy to provide you with some insight based on my experiences. Similarly to a traditional air handler within a single family home, a “pancake” air handler, which is what you’ll often find installed above the ceiling in an apartment (commonly nearby the front door), works very much the same way. You’ll typically have a small, wider fan blower that pulls air into the unit, pushing it through a condensation coil. This coil will drip water into a pan. From the pan will often be a PVC or metal pipe that runs to the exterior of the apartment, where the condensation from the coil will be able to drain into the grass, soil, etc.
If you take a look around the outside of your apartment, you should be able to find a pipe that leads up to your ceiling air handler. As to how safe these units are, that depends on what you mean by this question. One immediate thought is the concern for water dripping onto your ceiling, when the condensation line backs up. Regular service should keep this from happening, but it’s never a bad idea to add a safety switch or early notification sensor up there. Speaking with an AC contractor that has knowledge of water damage prevention would be ideal for preventing a future water leak from your unit.
I had a new ac system put in my apartment. Old one was here for 40 years. All of a sudden I noticed black/gray soot looking stuff on walls ceiling fans, air registers rugs etc... Everything in apartment. Could it be mold? It took 2 days and I noticed all this and new filter was completely black. I showed pics to mgt company and they haven't done a thing. What should I do?
Well, for starters, there could be a number of factors at play. Given that a new AC was just installed, my very first question would be how much faster air is moving through your existing ducting. Given that the old unit is ~40 years old, I can’t imagine it was in optimal shape. The explanation for the “soot looking stuff” could be discharge from the ducting. Simply put, dirt/debris/dust accumulation that’s been sitting in the ducting for years is now making its way out.
If indeed the above is part of the problem, this could also explain discoloration to your air filter. If you’re seeing particulate on surfaces, there’s certainly more particulate within the indoor air. One additional concern that I would have is whether or not your unit is adequately dehumidifying your property. Many newer air handlers are exceptional at cooling, but not great at dehumidifying (out of the box). Given that you’re seeing build-up on your walls, this has me wondering if your environment is more damp.
How does the indoor environment feel to you? Cold and damp? Normal? Etc.
Yes! God, what a good video! Man! Do you work in Georgia?
Why thank you! While GA is not within my immediate service area, I can still be of assistance with travel fees included.
More often than not, I try to find someone that I know or a trusted colleague knows, who is local to someone’s area.
@@IAQJoshI’m north of ATL and needing a good recommendation please! We paid over $3k for HVAC system and duct cleaning with UVC lights but I still found more microbial growth. The business we used will not come out to address it because they say we’re beyond the 1 year warranty. We have only been here for 15 months and never had mold issues where we used to live in a desert climate. I’m incredibly mold sensitive and have really struggled with this health-wise. I’m a nurse and haven’t been able to work as much. I’ve been trying to DIY the HVAC cleaning with fogging and HEPA air scrubbers but I’d prefer a professional. Any help on who you could recommend around here would be so appreciated!
Thank you for your helpful videos and doing this much needed work!!
Another question - how do we find someone like you in the Tampa area who tests for stuff like this?
Fortunately, I know a decent number of qualified professionals within the state of Florida. Luce Air Quality would be the company that I would reach out to for assistance with a proper mold assessment within your home. David, the owner, and his team are second to none!
Totally (enjoyed) your video thanks 🤧
Why thank you!
So does an hvac guy help detect this, an average mold inspector (I Had one come in
And he just did an eye test around the house ) or is a general air quality inspector going to address this?
I we had a leak in our finished attic. Hope in the roof, for years, rainstorms caused paint to peel paint on the ceiling of the attic.
How does one know if there is mold inside between the roof and attic ceiling? Do they have to rip it apart to find it?
Funnily there is also an Furnace in the attic, which the humidity easily got to 80 percent in the summer . Any tips on what to looks for? Iv spoken time some people but I don’t get direct answers on how to address this ?
Can there be mold within the roofing materials themselves, sure. However, this is often an avenue that not many individuals explore. In fact, if you’re not seeing any elevated moisture conditions or visible damages on the underside of the roof, that’s usually enough to move on and leave it alone.
As far as humidity within an attic, this is certainly something to manage as best you can. The dew point temperature is actually the most important factor to look at. It’s this value alone that will determine what colder materials within your attic may sweat/condense. Within my climate zone, an attic with a high dew point is a recipe for disaster, as HVAC duct leaks are all too common and when the air leaking from the ducts is below the dew point, now we’ve got the ingredients for moisture to develop.
So was the condensate drain plugged? How would you treat this mold? Would you install a UV light or ionizer? Thanks. I think hot humid climates need more maintenance when it comes to their longer cooling season. That can't be healthy to breathe that.
The condensation line was not backed up, from what I could tell. The unit seemed to be cooling the environment during my inspection.While I’m not an HVAC professional, I have to imagine that this unit specifically would require replacement.
I would agree with the preliminary thought that hot, humid environments need more frequent maintenance. Personally, I think a lot more goes into this equation (age of home, leakiness of home, preferred indoor temperatures, etc.).
It’s a lost cause imo, replace the whole system. NADCA duct cleaning would be impossible with all of that interior contaminated rigid duct insulation. And the safest way to deal with mold is to always remove it, it’s not like bed bugs or bacteria that we “treat”.
Thank you for sharing this. Would you say this system should just be replaced?
Hi Roxanne! This system should absolutely be replaced. Even with the most tedious cleaning, there will likely be areas of mold that remain - which will only worsen within an air handler (due to its damp environment).
@@IAQJosh Thanks so much for your extremely thorough video! Going back to your comment to Roxanne, do you think the trunk and flex coils need to be replaced or just cleaned if the handler will be replaced? I have this exact situation but the ducts (trunk) is sitting on beams in the attic in insulation which I was told will cause condensation as well.
@@JPbruv First and foremost, it is my understanding that HVAC ducting should always be elevated within the attic space. You are spot on with the potential for condensation, when ducting comes in contact with the attic joists and insulation.
As far as whether or not the ducting needs to be replaced, a local, qualified HVAC professional should make that call.There’s a number of factors that go into making the determination as to whether or not replacement is necessary. Above and beyond the inspection of these materials for mold is the consideration on whether or not relocation is possible, among others.
@@IAQJosh Thanks for the reply and tips! Had servpro clean my vent system the other day. Looking in the fiberglass is supposed to be green in trunk (it's yellow in your video)? Looks like still mold but think it's may be the color from stains of mold. Appreciate you taking the time to answer my question btw!
@@JPbruv The greenish color may be mold, but it may also just be black fiberglass insulation that isn’t in the best shape. Only a physical mold/fungi sample would confirm if it’s mold. Most labs that I’ve dealt with will allow you to submit your own sample - if you wanted to use a cotton swab to scrape off some of the residue and submit it for analysis. Just an idea - if it’s the difference between loosing sleep. 😎
Do you recommend UV lighting in the air handler to prevent mold and mildew?
Personally, I am a fan of UV light installations within air handlers. While I am not an HVAC professional, I’ve seen my fair share of great installs, as well as some awful installs.
When UV lights are installed to work in conjunction with good filtration, I think that the end result can be wonderful for your indoor air quality. UV lights, however, should never be used as a substitute for good filter filtration.
Ultimately, when determining if a UV light is right for your setup, I would recommend doing your own independent research and consulting with qualified HVAC professionals (not the ones that just want to sell you something). There are also great snippets of information regarding UV lights on CZcams! 😎
UV works great for viruses and bacteria, but fungus blows right past it. It doesn’t give the mold enough time to do what it’s supposed to do. And then when you think about it, if UV lighting did work for mold, we would then have just dead mold in our systems which is just as harmful to our health.
So how do you kill the mold issue in the hvac? I didnt see that part.
Oh, there’s no killing it. It’s either proper cleaning to remove it or replacement of the air handler. Given how badly contaminated this unit was, I would lean toward replacement. However, if one was to dismantle this unit and perform a thorough cleaning of all components, I could get onboard with that.
In this instance, my client moved out of the apartment. I’d like to think that the Condo Association replaced the unit, but that’s just me being optimistic.
Can a blocked drain plug also cause this?
A blocked drain plug could result in more moisture remaining within the coil drain pan - which could certainly lead to similar microbial growth in the immediately surrounding areas.
Dude. Wow. Just moved into my new apartment. Not cheap and My system looks 10x worse than this one. Took Pictures and videos of everything w documentation. I have horrible allergies and I always feel like I’m dying. Maybe this is why
It’s unfortunately far too common to find growth within apartment building HVAC systems. These systems often go neglected by both the occupants and the management companies - with minimal upkeep (e.g. filter changes, clogged line clear outs, etc.).
To the unsuspecting persons moving into these units, the AC system is not typically an area checked - beyond your normal look at the air filter and maybe the bottom of the coil.
I wish there was a course to take on testing HVAC’s to come to better conclusions and leave all of the ambiguity behind. The EPA 36 helps for testing the AHU. Sometimes we can salvage the ductwork and replace the AHU, vice versa. Spore trap testing has its purpose for cavity testing at best. I enjoyed your video. Seriously though, there are no standards to when making executive decisions on testing HVAC’s, we need better testing protocols. Like an IICRC manual on it.
Agreed. We’ve got NADCA’s ACR 2021 Standard, but that relates more so to inspecting/testing for cleanliness of HVAC system.
Because we currently don’t have any real standards on sample interpretation as it is, I doubt we’ll ever have anything more for sampling within HVAC systems. At least within the near future.
@@IAQJosh Thanks for that, I’ll look into it. Do they promote fogging antimicrobials to “disinfect” systems in that manuel?
No, as that would directly conflict with EPA’s stance against that - as you may already be aware of.
@@IAQJoshGood answer. You hear about the S590 coming out on HVAC’s? I hope they will have in house courses.
@@sp1200M3D Yep! I’ve already got a copy of it, but have not yet dug into it yet.
@IAQ Josh This is a lot of great info man. Just one thing though. It's "Tell tale sign" not "tall tale sign". Not trying to be a know it all or anything. But just a heads up. Thank you very much for breaking it down
Thank your for your comment, Andrew.
@@IAQJosh for sure man. I didn't wanna come off like a know it all or rude at all. One question I did have though is Where can I send samples of collections that I take? Whether I believe it to be mold/growth or Something I'm just not sure of, None of my coworkers seem to know of a place where I can have it analyzed. I I'm in Phoenix Arizona and do residential HVAC if that helps at all
@@andrewhepfinger7969 I’m not familiar with any of the labs that I use having a location in Phoenix. I just performed a quick Google search and found a lab called EMC - who look to be accredited. I’ll include the link to their website at the end.
The only factor that I would warn you about is to be familiar with any of your local state laws regarding mold-related services. I don’t believe that your state has any licensure requirements for mold testing/sampling, but I’m also not 100% certain. Just make sure that you don’t get in trouble, all while trying to help someone.
www.emclabs.com/
@@IAQJosh funny that you should mention that. We're not allowed to say them "m" word for that reason. But I will definitely check them out. I appreciate your feedback/ time and information you put out there. I'm in between calls right now, so don't have much time at the moment. Hope you have a great day!
Good video. I know they are tertiary molds, but have you ever found Stachybotrys or Chaetomium in an HVAC system?
I have, however, the instances in which I have are few and far between. Maybe around 1-2% of the time have I found tertiary molds. Very rare.
@@IAQJosh I see a lot of bigger companies using the MSQPCR EPA 36 swabs on AHU’s, and Chaetomium comes up more often than not… I don’t agree, it doesn’t make sense. Hydrophilic molds typically need warmer temperatures to mature as you already know. So when it comes to Chaetomium or Stachy in cold AC’s I’m really interested.
@@sp1200M3D I have seen other companies collect the dust samples within the HVAC system as well, but not as common as they do from various surfaces within the living space. I don’t recall seeing Chaetomium, but I’ve also not looked very hard for it.
@@IAQJosh what are your thoughts on the ERMI?
I had 10x the amount of 'dark matter' inside my unit aka it was COVERED in black.. Cleaned everything the best I could with bleach rags and some coil cleaner spray; removed wheel, cleaned coil, etc.. After lots of research I've concluded its from leaving the FAN to ON for the past 2 years; and being a 5 ton oversized unit; and 6 months of 'dryer vent' discharge (with a stalking screen) into the hvac intake for 'free heat' in our winters... Yearly cleaning is in order for me until replacement time :/ I've also reprogramed my thermostat to 2 cycles per hour from 3 to help with the oversized unit/ humidity control. AZ here 100-110F, 11 month summers!
Thanks for the comment! That fan in the ON position is a killer down here in South Florida. You can almost sense when the fan is in the ON position immediately when walking in. High humidity, slight odor, and overall discomfort.
I opened the HVAC System myself and photo graphed mold inside of the ducts and coils. I am so sick. I am high risk COPD from being exposed to mold in the HVAC System. When the landlord sent techs out I still too before and after photos and videos. HVAC System had leaking water, clogged lines, and mold everywhere.
Oh no! I'm terribly sorry to hear that. The HVAC system is probably the number one area in the home where I find moisture and mold issues. Hopefully you're able to get this dealt with properly.
So sorry to hear this. Hear it every day. There is no resolution to mold sensitive people living amongst contaminated HVAC’s, except system replacement. Landlords are generally horrible and will always go for the cheapest unwillingly most dangerous route. Moving and thinking smart about your possessions is what I would do.
@@sp1200M3D That's about the only sure thing advice I give to people at times - move out of this place. Even then, often times people end up in worse places. Nonetheless, you're right about one thing - the average landlord will go with the most cost effective approach at dealing with mold.
In all honesty though, I can't always fault them, as 1. They themselves are not living with these sensitivities and 2. Many professionals that are not privy to individual's sensitives recommend corrective actions that simply aren't a sufficient remedy.
@@IAQJosh I’m big on empowerment and education so people know what red flags to look for when purchasing or renting a new indoor space. Dust testing the place last before you decide to sign the contract too.
And it’s your responsibility as a homeowner/landlord to maintain your properties so you are not providing sick indoor spaces to your tenants. Landlords need more EPA regulation.
And you’re right, the “traditional” majority of the mold industry utilize archaic and improper practices and protocols that only meet the needs of how everything “looks”, instead of weighing the health risk.
Need an answer ASAP
I have mold in my furnace, my air-conditioning unit is turned off at this time because of the mold, I was told to open the Windows and just run the fan is that a good idea with the mold present?
Hi Pamela. 👋 When you say that you were told to run the fan, do you mean a ceiling fan/ regular fan or setting your thermostat fan to on?
Assuming it’s the thermostat, it’s no different than running your AC, for the most part. Any presence of mold inside of the system will continue being expelled - assuming that’s what’s been going on.
Fresh air is never a bad thing, except when your air conditioner is running. Having window open and fans circulating air can be very beneficial for promoting better indoor air quality. If the humidity starts to climb, you can implement a dehumidifier to help control the moisture in the air.
@@IAQJosh
Thank you for responding and especially so soon!
For the last couple weeks I’ve had problems with my air-conditioning it was sparking behind the thermostat the fire department come out and checked and everything was okay. my landlords had their furnace guy fix what he could, he said he didn’t smell anything else but joked around about not being able to even smell a good poop. I’m all for humour but I’ve noticed the smell and it’s not been good. The fire chief and his associate came out today and he found mould in the furnace, but he said to run the fan not the air conditioning. Running the fan and all of that coming out of the registers seems to still have the smell and the problem so I turned the fan off
FWI, the word you're looking for is "telltale" ~ not "tall tail"
I’m guessing you didn’t read the comments before you posted. 😉
Shared!
Why thank you!
That much moisture most likely oversized system
I am sure if you cleaned that air handler and I inspected after you I will find something for sure..
according to your opinion, All the air handler need to be replaced after one year of functioning.
Hey there! Would you mind clarifying your comments?
Cleaning has its place. When an air handler is this bad and it’s an older unit, I would personally opt for replacement.
What I mean there are some spots you are not going to be able to clean,
@@abilal0000 Absolutely agree. You’ll never get into all the nooks and crevices.
10:10 a "tall tail" sign ??? are you trying to say a "telltale" sign?
I was actually trying to say banana. 🍌🙃
The term is telltale signs. Not tall tale signs.
I was thinking the same thing! LOL
If it makes you feel better, I also said nip it in the butt for years, before someone was kind enough to inform me that it was actually bud. 😂
Thank you for the input.
@@IAQJosh lmao tell that dude to make his own content and see if he doesn’t screw up verbiage lol No productivity with nit picking.
I was going to let you slide with this video until the end when you threw out that "legal action thing."
Did you say you're "passionate" about your work.... But yet you're not passionate enough to go in there and clean all that up. Dude you've got it made! You go in there and tell them they have mold everywhere and then you hit the road. You expect somebody else to come in and clean up all the mess. That is not, and I repeat NOT what HVAC companies do. We are there to take care of the machine and ensure that it runs properly. We are not there for environmental analysis or cleaning for that matter. Every and I repeat again.... 'EVERY' HVAC system in every house across the country looks that way. That's just part of it. I can find that much mold and more in a home by looking under their bathroom sinks, under their soap dish in the shower, and under the kitchen sink and in their refrigerator, then in the HVAC system . Oh... And let's not forget what's hiding behind the walls, in the carpet, under the hardwood floors, in the attic and in the crawl spaces. Homes are filled with mold and mildew. Is it making people sick? Absolutely not. And you are playing on people's fears to make money off of them. If you're really that passionate about what you do, then open up another branch of your business where you go back and clean everything up for them. You just want to go in and do the easy part, take their money and run. Start getting your hands really dirty and then you can say you're passionate about what you do. But DO NOT try to drag innocent HVAC companies into this nonsense. A lot of this could be the homeowners fault. Maybe they only change their filter once a year. You don't know the circumstances. So I will say it one last time. HVAC companies maintain the proper operation of the equipment ONLY! We are not environmental specialists and that is not what we do. Take what this guy says with a grain of salt. That's just my opinion.
Thanks for the lengthy comment! Lots of information here, so let me go through it and respond accordingly. First, all HVAC companies that I’ve ever worked with handle the cleaning of the interior of an air handler. While some other HVAC professionals may solely handle service and installation, many South Florida companies will also handle coil cleanings, blower wheel cleanings, etc. As part of this cleaning process, you’ll effectively be performing an environmental cleanup. Algae accumulation with bacteria and mold are all common within an area where there is constant moisture - as I’m sure you’re well aware of.
As to your comment that every air handler across the country looks like this, I professionally disagree. In fact, if every air handler you’ve worked on looks like this, I’d be willing to bet that they’re all suffering from some deficiency - which would of course be identified by a professional like yourself. Air handlers that are maintained do not look anything like this - even units installed within a warmer environment. On average, I run into units that look this bad at 1 out of 10-12 properties. I’m amazed if every air handler that you’ve touched looks like this.
As to your comment about mold not making people sick, are we still living in the Stone Age? Is it hard to believe that fungal amplification can impact ones health? I encourage you to review the data out there, as it speaks for itself. Based on your ideology, why remove asbestos from properties? Why deal with lead paint? Why do anything anything that can promote a healthier living environment? Sorry to be so direct, but I’m simply not understanding the direction of your comment.
Lastly, if you view this video as me selling “snake oil” and scaring folks into actions, you clearly have not seen any of my other content, nor understand my motives within my industry. I encourage you to watch some other videos to better understand my goals as a professional. Furthermore, I am routinely involved within the remediation processes when it comes to addressing mold and other contaminates within properties - so I’m well acquainted with “getting my hands dirty”.
It is you who doesn't know what you're talking about. I have been through this same exact thing and I ended up having to replace the entire HVAC just after buying a house. This video is for information only. You don't have to come on here and spew your bs. You can always turn the video off. Easy.
@@alanunderwoodsr8622 smart move replacing your system, NADCA cleaning contaminated systems is a lost cause.
Definitely not a filter problem, that’s a poor install.
It's actually "tell-tale" sign. If you say "tall-tale" sign, you reference a fabricated, exaggerated tale. Tell-tale is what you mean which is something that tells the story.
Thanks Briana. A previous viewer mentioned this as well. I appreciate the comment.
Mold makes millionaires off of ignorant people.
Assuming that you’re implying that mold-related service professionals take advantage of consumers, you’re right and wrong.
There are many bad apples out there, who absolutely prey on unsuspecting victims. However, we also have quite a number of professionals out there who care for their clients, and reputation as a professional.