A New Way For Me To Sell Firewood???
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Use the cut out from the cage to put back where you cut out and bungee cord it in place to keep wood in. Easy to remove later 😊
Thanks for the tip!
The price can be looked at many different ways. In the summertime my price is up around the 100 dollar mark. This time of the year I actually lower it to the 75 dollar area depending on species. The reason is simple for me. I have found the less fortunate among us can not afford 350 plus a cord to keep themselves warm. In the summer most of it is being used for bonfires so I get more to offset the cost to be a help to my community. Great content and an excellent question.
As much as I initially thought about charging I would have to go in the $75-$80 range and you keep the tote or work into an exchange system. I believe the concept will work and you have a great location to work it into your operation.
Totally agree bill
Having a market for Boiler type wood can also make FREE Tree Service wood a nice option for you.
Actually stacking a sample Full Tote of wood is probably a good move to see how much is actually in them when put in loose.
Most comments seem to be leaning toward $75-$80 per tote, with self loading and tote stays with you.
Hometownacres did restack a Tote's worth of wood to compare volumes a few months ago
There is a chanal in mane that charges 95 dollars per tote for mixed hard wood . With no oke or the harder woods such as harde maple and hegg ! These are premium woods and need a higher price in less you have a surplus and need to get rid of it .
The wheels are grinding again! I’ve always noticed how well you adapt, think and come up with solutions Joe. Elaine from Canada here, you started the business as a side hustle, turned it into a hustle, now with the tote, you’re thinking about a side-side hustle. So Joe, are ya havin’ fun yet? Heh heh. Great camera work and editing. Every idea is worth a try, and you’ll adapt and learn and figure out something. Keep on keepin’ on. Cheers
Thanks for supporting me Elaine. I will keep you updated on this!
suggestion could you set up the Axis in your new car port shelter to keep out weather. I would charge 1/3 the price of a cord + delivery.
Definitely a good way to use up that scrap inventory. Like you said, this is a seperate process from your regular firewood production, so it needs it's own workflow and time. Maybe a good way to expand into an extra employee eventually.
Great video Joe! 50 to 60 dollars here in Southern VA, but we are in a rural area with no big cities close to us.
Good morning Joe!!😀😀
For a tote of odds and ends should bring around 60 dollars I would think.
Take care my friend!!👍👍💚
Logger Al
thanks Logger Al!
In WNY that basket of wood is probably around $50 or $60. Maybe $75 depending on the species but it won't move very fast. I would cut your baskets a little higher if you aren't going to be stacking the wood in them. It'll be less likely to be falling out when moving them around. Love the channel Joe. Have a great day! 👍
Thanks for the comment Neighbor
Here in UK that basket is premium especially with maple in it which is rare as hens teeth here. But cost that tote over here would be between £100-140 so $120-160👍🏴
@@michaelwillson6847 that's interesting. Thanks.
Hi Joe, Roadside stand is a great way to increase sales. IBC bins, bundles, small and large racks. All self serve. You could secure 3-6 of the IBC totes to each other so nobody can take them. Well worth a try.
At 5:45 you were about to rattle the cage of your viewers that don’t know how to take a joke. That was great!
haha. Thanks Marvin.
I typically get about 1/4 cord in my totes, if I stack them flush with the top. Tossed in... I'd say you get 80% of that so 1/5 of a cord. Price it according to what your market will bring. Somewhere between $40-$60 might be about right.
That’s a great idea, along with a firewood stand would be another great idea. I would say 50$-70$ but you really have to figure out how much wood is really in there first, might have to stack one first then figure it out when it’s loose.
I would think the dumped in stuff like this is much less than stacked. Could be a nice study. Thanks for the email this morn Frank
I would say 60 dollars is a fair price. It’s a great idea and I hope it does well.
If you cut the tub in diagonal. You Get to roofs to put over the wood
75 bucks, depends on demand also. Cold winters demands more wood. You can fine tune the price when you sell 10-12 baskets.
This is a total win win situation in my book. Easy to process, no stacking required, and you have them gone in an instant. You wish that the rest of the operation could go this quick and easy.
that is one way i have been looking at it john. I just want to make sure it is worht my time
Joe, another great 👍 job and video,$ 60 or $ 65 dollars is fair 😮😊❤
The tree service in West Central Ohio sells firewood for $25/skidloader scoop. I would charge at least $50, maybe $75. Have to figure your time into it.
I agree Jon. There is labor involve and I want it to be worth my time
$75 seems fair for self pick up 1/3 cord cut offs. Here in central South Carolina a local firewood producer is selling 1 cord for $765 this year plus $1.15 per mile for delivery. They also sale bulk at $.155 per pound.
that is a good price for wood Billy. DO you live near the city?
@@ohiowoodburner I live just outside Columbia SC in Lexington which is about 15 miles from city center. The city has a population of only about 150,000 but the metro area is around 750,000.
$765 a cord…Wow!!!!
My price is my price.. Shorts like this for me are still sold in half to full cord increments and are awesome for smaller woodstoves
I would say 50/75 dollars. Depends on how much you have and how fast you want to move it.
That is in the ballpark that I was thinking Allan
Hi Joe, I believe they will sell like hot cakes on that busy road. $70 seems like a fair price. You will need to leave a note that the tote is not included, or it will grow wings and fly away. Mike 🔥🪵🇺🇸
haha! I don't want to lose the totes. I don't have that many of them. BTW the last of the wood you made this spring just went out the gate! Thanks for your help guys
$50 is probably what I could get in my area.
Great video Mr. Joe!! Been watching you along time. I like how you will bring the super splitter out for each milestone. Glad to see your channel blow up like it has!! You’re a pleasure to watch!
Thanks for the nice comment and your support TCF!
Nice work Joe! Making good use of the uglies, have a good weekend buddy.
$50 and they load themselves. Otherwise there is an additional deposit of $20 on the IBC cage. I would not do home delivery but perhaps try to locate someone with a smaller, nimble truck with a Hi hab fixture for unloading full containers and picking up empties who you might recommend.
Note: I have seen someone in France that used a pedestrian controlled engine driven mobile fork lift truck that could handle Big Bags of logs and IBC cages very successfully even climbing / descending moderate driveway slopes.
$20 deposit here in WNY isn't enough for the cage. It would have to be $100 or you'd never get them back.
Sounds line you've found another way to sell firewood! Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day
$75 is what I charge for a tote like that.
Thats a good price. Thanks buddy
saw butts and ugly wood could go into your outdoor boiler as its usually not highly sought after and keep the good looking wood for sale,. now you found a revenue source for ugly wood but its still worth a decent price , heat is heat and wood is wood
When opportunity comes knocking, best to open the door say yes and then figure out how to get it done. As for price, I'd sell I would say $80 to $100 since it is close to a face cord in volume and you are delivering it. If you do plan on making a 'road side stand' of these IBC totes, consider charging a deposit for the IBC cage so you get it back.
ROFLMAO. A cord is 128 cubic feet of "solid" wood. That "basket" is 48 cubic feet of space MAX and not even "piled" or "tossed" wood that has a LOT of "variety". It "varies" among half a dozen tree species and "moisture content" from "bone dry" to "dry rot". He tosses "uglies" that would weigh 40-50 lbs if SEASONED up there like they weigh half that and he damn sure doesn't have the strength of two men.
The "basket" WAS worth $80-$100 when it was still a CONTAINER. OR TWO. Now its as worthless as the wood and nobody but a crook or moron with brand new equipment under warranty would "charge" a "neighbor" with a HEATED SHOP a dime for that "firewood".
$100 worth of propane will heat any shop 10 times as long as that pile of compost pile reject "firewood" will.
Like that itty bitty CUT could pick up a cord of real firewood - a "short ton" - on the MOON much less on Earth, lol. It takes a STACK of "chunks" of "green" wood 14" wide, 4 feet high and 32 feet long to still be a SEASONED cord and that includes "smalls" and "rounds" and only crooks or morons or both split EVERYTHING into that "firewood" city folks buy at convenience stores for fireplaces and firepits and campfires in order to "make money" selling to people with wood stoves as primary heat sources.
Unless the "shop" is an insulated 2-car garage that "close to a face cord" won't heat it a "week" and they'll be filling the stove hourly.
I agree but I don't want the totes to leave the yard. I don't have that many of them
Good idea Joe. Would the totes be self serve then? If that's possible that's the best way in my opinion. You would not have to set appointments or wait for someone to show up (or not show up LOL). Maybe a cellular trail cam to keep people honest?
I think you’re onto something Joe , can’t hurt to try . I’ll be watching with interest.
I would suggest you choose a corner of the yard and just build a loose pile there. That way you can use your trailer to dump there. Bucket it into an IBC tote when you have a customer or need one at home. A well stacked tote is a face (1/3) cord so I would call a loose filled one a quarter cord. It burns the same, just not as pretty. Maybe a 20% discount if that. Remember, two things are happening… you are getting rid of junk wood and you are taking from your own boiler wood (which you would split anyway.) What else would you do with it? Is there a higher and best use for it otherwise?
We sell it by the cord at $225.00. The same as $75.00 for an face cord. We also use to heat the glycol in our concrete radiant floor in the drying kiln. Alone side the Ruff-Sawed Lumber.
Thanks howard.
For boiler wood, you can stock pile it - someone will probably buy it by the dump truck load. More of a by product
I had thought of that but wonder if would be ever worth my effort. I will have to think on it more
I sell boiler wood too. If you have it as a by product it’s definitely worth it. There isn’t enough money in it to do it for profit
What a machine.... the splitter's pretty good too!
we pay around $120 NZD (70-80 USD) per cubic peter of firewood that tote is more than 1 cube so probably about 80USD
If you charge 110 dollars for 1/3 of a chord of premium firewood then maybe 80-90 dollars for these cutoffs. You still have to split it just not as much.
there's a guy in Pennsylvania near Wilkes-Barre doing the same thing I bought one of them for 75 bucks so there's somebody else with that too.
I paid 75 bucks but if you load them up the way you loaded yours you can get an easy100 bucks
I’d say $80 delivered nearby 👍👍
I have seen them around me for 100 dollars. I live west of you near Ravenna.
Hi Joe
I’ve been selling the baskets of off cuts shorties uglies for 90 bucks picked up in medina Ohio. My baskets are the 330 gallon ones.
Nice job Joe. Are your's stacked or tossed?
Tossed the uglies don’t stack pretty
Great video, however, wouldn't be faster to load the offcuts and short logs back onto the conveyor on the 405 and run them through the perfect split? Seems like that would be way faster than the old-style wood splitter :) I realize that some of the off cuts that are cut on a severe angle may not want to go through the perfect split, but most would feed through ;) Love your channel here in Georgia!
Thanks for explaining the switch around at the end. No clue as to price on basket. Never bought firewood, ever!
I am a fast learner Keith! lol
I have been gittin $60.00 per each tote if the coustomer takes tote to unload it's $120.00 then when tote arrive,es back home the coustomer git,s $60.00 back from the $120.00. I might sale 10 a year 97% of my production is a useable product.have a great day sir.
Thanks BRF. I don't think I would let them take the tote. I don't have many of them
I have seen those totes bring 100.00 dollars with the wood stacked in. Some even charge a deposit so you get your tote back. Hope that helps you
Man joe that's a premium basket firewood over here. Especially with maple we dont get much if any of that. That would cost arround $120-160 potentially more but that's about average over here. Always nice see the eastenmade axis in action. 👍🏴 I reckon you should be easily able to get $120 out that minimum
I think in Estonia you could ask about 65 euros. With free transport about 10-15 miles. Great video!
Thanks for your post from Viro!
I'm selling these for $80 but it's all my refuse wood for guys wanting some for parties so some limb wood lots of knots and notches and anything that won't make bagging grade
That would go for about 60 dollars in the area I live in. I am guessing they would need to load it themselves.
I would want this to be self load also. I don't want to smash anyone's truck
👍🏻 Most definitely I’d sell and use the odd cuts. Actually I get amusement by processing and burning odd shapes. Too I like the coverage of your right foot action depressing the lever, always wondered if it was a body balance thing. Great video.🇺🇸
Thanks Larry!
Nice video. Good. Job God bless
Thank you ralph
Joe I would say $75- 80 per tote. They are going for 75.00 here in Kingwood Wv
Baskets sell from $80 to $100 here in Maine
I'm following this one Joe. I have several baskets of off cuts like that. I haven't really tried to market them yet. I'm thinking about $60 each.
you and me are a lot alike Dick I was thinking that same amount but there are a lot of recommended $$ much higher
I purchase a 330 gal tote of Almond firewood split and seasoned for $100. Its about 10 inches taller than a 275 gal tote. I would sell the tote u just filled for $100. U can always take a little less.
For the axis being rated at only 14 ton, that thing is viscous!! 50-60 in my neck of the woods.
Ya don't know till ya try. Good luck 👍
good point lance!
Just because it's ugly, doesn't mean that it's not a usable quantity of wood. I would charge 40-60% of what you charge for your regular wood.
nice way to look at it Jim. Thanks sir
As a homeowner who just split 8 cords this year for personal firewood, I wanted to ask if you think upgrading from a 34-ton Champion splitter to a super split was your recommendation. The only challenge I see with the super split is having to manually lift the logs, as I get them free from local arborists, and the logs can be heavy/large in diameter. Would love your thoughts on my homeowner's next steps if my budget was max 5k.
Thanks for your time.
The super splitter would give you your weekends back. It is that fast. Seems you have determined your limiting factor which is lifting the log. I'm sure you could mitigate that with some creativity. You could always quarter the big logs with your champion and go to town on the rest with the ss. Great machine
@@ohiowoodburner thank you so much for the reply. Looks like there is a super split in my future. Cheers.
Talking about 'Packaging'...... The ease to Store Wood in those Totes, in a Clean, Efficient, and Effective Way, is beyond Price..
The Ability to toss a Tarp over those, in a Concise and Constructive Way, that is not an Eyesore (Black or Silver Tarps) would fit into any Facade.. Even an Urban Area...
Unlike a Woodpile.. Then those could be Stacked even...
Then again, You can just 'Get Drunk on Price'...... Discounting the Aesthetics of the Wood in the Tote...
While Content wise, those are not that much less than a Rick.. 80%-90%?
Enjoy your show and humour joe, My daughter always tells me about logs that are too long when she’s running the splitter “ fire the cutter” …. Hmmm she has your humour .All the best from Saskatchewan
Andrew
$100 minimum, the math doesn't lie and the totes I've measured are ⅓ of a cord....so it's cheap wood. Underselling is for the guys trying to hide income.
Good day Joe! Like me always looking for new ways to sale firewood and make it worth it. Here in eastern Ontario Canada $100 . I have done this and never a complaint. Cheers 🍻 Dr Pepper for you hahah👌🏻🔥🇨🇦
I could probably get $80 for a basket like that, and maybe a little less if not seasoned. Heaped loose like you have it makes it about a facecord. Could call it the economy basket or the penny saver basket.
do you hand load them or toss in?
When I sell by the basket I upend them into a trailer using the forks on the tractor. I’m pretty confident I could also upend them into a pickup truck. It’s fun and satisfying. You should try it
When did you get the Eastonmade? 🤣😂🤣 just kidding! Joe, have you considered put up a firewood stand like Hometown Acres and some of the other CZcamsrs have done? His original one was made from pallets. Shrinkage didn’t seem to be a big problem and you’re not directly interacting with customers directly. $$$/cord seemed very amicable.
It's about 1/3 cord so price it at 25-30% of a normal cord price.
I thought for a long time the “junk” wood wasn’t sellable. Now I sell it as fast as I can make it. Exact same kind of stuff you were making. $60 per IBC (tote not included). Next year I’m going up to $75.
Interesting Mike. Do you ever have any problems with selling these? Fussy customers etc?
@@ohiowoodburner No. Quite the opposite actually. Because we offer much higher quality wood for $140 a face cord setting virtually right beside this grade, they can see the difference and know exactly what they are getting. This grade isn’t for everyone obviously, but for the people that can use it, they appreciate the savings and it helps us move some ugly, but still usable inventory. 👍
thats 65-75$$ all day, thats cheap heat for the winter. I've seen gas bills of 150-200 a month
Tote is 1/3 of a cord give or take. A cord around here being 360-400 I’d devalue it a bit being “ugly” wood. $100 sale price.
Thanks for the comment sloth
How much wood do you guesstimate there is in the tote? Being hardwood, here in Colorado it would be pretty valuable but in hardwood country probably quite a bit less. It is saving you a lot of stacking twice and unstacking time. Makes me wonder if a half cord container could be built cheaply that would fit in your pickup for small deliveries. I always thinking of ways to spend your money, LOL
Hi Joe. I would estimate how long it took you to fill the tote, then multiply times your approximate hourly rate.
cool beans!
Thanks Geezy
For wood like you make joe i charge 90 delivered. For random size splits like you have in your tote i get 75. That’s delivered of course within 10 miles. I don’t see why you couldn’t get 70 bucks for that
On our side of the lake those are $65
Mosquito lake or erie? lol
Along with the baskets, would a road side stand be profitable?
We have so many dead trees (most are water oaks) due to the drought I’ll have to almost give it away for the next couple years. I have around 30 oaks I can pick up in the coming weeks but hundreds will be available to everyone else by next year. Also, half of my business is fire pit wood and that’s been a $800 fine for the last 3 months. Sucks.
What do u mean 800 dollars fine
@@randywilson6869 if you get caught burning anything outdoors it’s an $800 fine. We have been under a “Burn Ban” for over 3 months.
where do you live with the burn ban?
@@ohiowoodburner it’s the entire state of Louisiana. I live in East Feliciana parish which is very rural and half pine timber forest. Wouldn’t take much to wipe out everything. Everyone has been abiding by the rules, thank God.
75 is a nice figure . I am assuming is just shy of a face cord ?
I’ll be interested in the results of your basket-by-the-road experiment….it seems problematic. 🤔👍
I would charge 20% less than your regular charge. It still burns the same.
50 60 as is 75 if you cut it in smaller pieces because home heaters with wood stoves will love at that price.
Thanks JB
I would charge someone with a boiler about $100.
I'd go 20 bucks less then a face cord on that.. hard to sell by itself but if you have some nice wood beside it people will look at it differently
I agree with you. Thanks buckin!
Stack it out first too see how much is there. In my neck of the woods it would go for $100
i'm curious to see how much is in it if i do stack it out. I will do a vid on it
NWA might get about $70 or so if oak.
I'd say that most places would probably get between eighty and a hundred dollars for that
Thanks Kent
For someone starting out, or rebuilding in my situation, how about a "black Friday" sale with a discount of say $20 a facecord only on the days of the sale if they pick-up the wood?
I wouldn't do that, be patient. The word will get out that you have wood and people will come. making firewood is enjoyable to me, but it's a lot of work and I want to be paid well for my efforts.
Every customer you have will be holding out till the Black Friday sale next year and the ones who already purchased at full price will be upset they were not told of the upcoming sale...Discounts are seldom the answer to building business...IMO
I don't discount my wood. Here are my thoughts on this
www.thewoodhounds.com/e/discountsjust-say-no/
@@ohiowoodburner listening to it now. Almost zero sales this year have made me lose almost all hope of things turning around.
$70 + delivery
I sell about 150 ricks a year in rural western indiana and I would get $50 for it.
thanks buddy. You sound like your busy!
For that chunky wood I believer $50 would be a fair price.
$75 is a fair price.
Looks like there’s about 1/4 of a cord. In that tote. I would start with $100. Then reevaluate.
I need to stack it out and see for sure Roger
I get 80 per tote
Where I live that tote would be around 80 bucks
That's a good price Famas
That much wood? I thought 150. But I could be wrong looking at what other folks thought.
150 makes it worth it for me but i'm not sure there is that much wood in this. I will prob have to stack it out to be certain
That's premium firewood here in Scotland would cost anywhere between £100-140 per tote so $120-160 but again could even get more because of the species.👍🏴
A hundred dollars to Hundred and twenty five dollars
Be careful that the customers don’t take both, the wood and the IBC.
haha. I agree!
You are always harping about not selling to heating customers because of low profit margins. However...My woodyard is very dependent upon the boiler heater folks to keep all the low quality wood from slowing taking over. Their low profit sales are much appreciated at my place and is also the only wood I load with a bucket without worry of debris.👍
I am wondering if I spend extra time and harvested out all the good splits from these logs if I would be better off to put it into my value added stuff. This is certainly work for me to do but I want it to be worth my time
@@ohiowoodburner It would just be a matter of sitting another IBC close and pitch the good ones in there to be stacked with inventory. I don't charge much at all for the nasty chunks and am just happy to be rid of it. 👍