Polygamy: Pt 1, 10 Biblical Facts Proving God’s Not Against It
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- In this video, Mike Allen tackles the controversial topic and misconceptions of ‘Biblical Polygyny,’ commonly referenced as ‘Polygamy’, which consists of the practice of men having multiple wives. A subject that Is considered taboo in most western Christian circles and culture. Mike reveals by ‘DIGGIN IN THE WORD’ 10 facts uncommonly known that are contained within the pages of Scriptures.
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Scriptures used and are cited in video.
Please note in the second fact, the correct Scripture is Numbers 12 instead of Numbers 21.
He is right about having more than one wife. Cheating is wrong, and taking someone else wife away from them is sin, but not taking signal women for wives. It is a eye opening fact. David, had many wives but he did no sin until he stole another man's wife.
+Armor Vestrus thanks for your comment! However, There was no concept of cheating for men until prescriptive/forced monogamy became the norm.
David's sin was murder. He ordered the death of Uriah. (The reason was that he wanted Bethsheba.) AFTER that he took Bethshba to wife. At that point she was a widow.
@@sharingwhatgodhastaughtme David lusted after another man’s wife. That lust in the heart lead to cheating and major sin. You can’t lust over someone else’s wife. That’s coveting your neighbor.
Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
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- Mike Allen
@@sharingwhatgodhastaughtme he messed around with Bathsheba before he killed Uriah. His sin was adultery and murder.
Greetings, Brother. I'm a Muslim from the Middle East. Your efforts to educate people with references to the holy book regarding sensitive subjects are greatly appreciated.
Greetings and Assalamu Alaikum, my Brother! Thank you for your encouragement! It has certainly been a journey reintroducing the teachings of our father and patriarch, Ibrahim. Nevertheless, I am grateful! Stay well!
Justifying polygamy is just as much of a shredding of the Scriptures as Muhammadism is. He brought back what was essentially gone by the 7th Century.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallenwhy are you calling a Muslim your “brother” ? They are not Christ’s. Why are you friends with the world ?
@@litefeet1757 please show me exactly in Scriptures where Muslims are not to be called “my brothers” or where doing so somehow would be me “loving the world?”
This is the best video I have found. I have been strongly considering polygamy. It just makes sense to me. It takes a village to raise children.
Amen to that! Thanks for the compliment! Yes, Satan has caused so many women to fear considering polygyny as his sinister goal has always been to “Steal, kill and destroy” through “doctrines of demons,” he’s used from the very first sin (John 10:10 & 1 Timothy 4:1-3). He has always sought to destroy the order of the home, the village and then the whole planet by causing fear in a women ( see 1 Peter 3:1-6), preventing her from seeing her vital role that may require she share her man.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Feminism has led so many women astray. It is a doctrine of devils.
@@servantofthelivinggod6192 Amen to that!
Same I always felt that inside particularly instinctively to go and have multiple wives and make more profit and thrive and love them and take care of them
Everytine discernment is given for marriage, it os monogamous. Marriage was created as monogamous. It is prohibited in the NT. It always caused friction when practiced in the OT. It was a temporary fix for accountability, just like ethics in slavery. Treating them as family and not placing them out in a world the could not adapt to. It was also a temporary means of focused evangelism. We were born free in the garden of Eden and not as slaves. God intends for neither crimes against humanity and adultery. Thatvis of Sodom.
In the Bible, Exodus 21:20-21 is an example of depravity being described as it is being left bereft of any account of condemnation:
“When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money.”
One could commit the fallacy of arguing in favour of slavery because “the Bible only gives instructions regarding its management facet, implying that whether or not it is okay is a concern that’s already been sorted out and not inhibited”, but that’d be no more than what I said: a fallacy.
And that’s because the Bible’s standing on violence can be patently defined through various other verses, amongst which is Psalm 11:5: “The Lord tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence.” Guess what else is explicit? GOD’S STANDING ON MARRIAGE.
Allow me to display a few extracts from the Bible on the matter.
1. 1 Corinthians 7:1-40: But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have HIS OWN WIFE and each woman HER OWN HUSBAND.
2. Ephesians 5:33: However, let each one of you love HIS WIFE as himself, and let the wife see that she respects HER HUSBAND.
3. Ecclesiastes 4:9-12: TWO are better than one, because they have a good reward for their toil. For if they fall, one will lift up his fellow. But woe to him who is alone when he falls and has not another to lift him up! Again, if TWO lie together, they keep warm, but how can one keep warm alone? And though a man might prevail against one who is alone, TWO will withstand him-a threefold cord is not quickly broken.
As shown above, the ideal romantic relationship through the lens of the Bible features a 1:1 ratio between a man and a woman, which consequently dispels any deviation-whether it be homosexuality… or polygamy.
Stop seeking rationalization in anything else. Were you not given the unadorned model of marriage?
Did God not send a single woman to Adam upon noticing his lack of company?
Why not two or three? 🤔
Because GOD KNOWS BEST AND ONE IS SUFFICIENT.
slavery is biblically ok. its not chattel american slavery. i fail to see your point?
Leviticus 25:44-46
44 “ ‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.
the word " *OWN* " was differently used. one was singliar the other was plural. as in my OWN family. its mine but it has multiple people.
the bible shows lens 1:1? wrong.
all throughout the bible shows men taking more than one wife.
2 Samuel 12:8
King James Version
8 And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things.
Judges 8:30
“And Gideon had threescore and ten sons of his body begotten: for he had many wives.”
Gideon a man who talked to God personally and God talked back took multple wives and God said NOTHING. same for David. God WOULDVE Given MORE if he wouldve asked.
Amen 🙏
@@DaddyAZTLVery good point
@@DaddyAZTL no, the bible fully supports chattel slavery.
"And as for your male and female slaves whom you may have-from the nations that are around you, from them you may buy male and female slaves. Moreover you may buy the children of the strangers who dwell among you, and their families who are with you, which they beget in your land; and they shall become your *property.* And you may take them as an inheritance for your children after you, *to inherit them as a possession; they shall be your permanent slaves.* But regarding your brethren, the children of Israel, you shall not rule over one another with rigor."
-- Leviticus 25:44-46.
This has been a topic close to my heart and I am in a healthy free loving relationship with the most high God. I’m 45 married for 20 years and the majority of the women I know are single black women! Educated uneducated tall short light dark all shapes and sizes etc. my sisters are uncovered on a level I can’t quite articulate in such a small space! Single!!! This breaks my heart. These kind of relationships are OK when done for the right reasons and what I mean by that is the man has to understand his relationship and purpose in the sight and ways of God, when this is done correctly The man is more likely to choose women ( through the type of leadership and covering he’s offering)! In return having a more cohesive fruitful marriage between him and his wives. The problem is we are so bound by religion it is killing us. We are also extremely unhealthy because we are choosing our relationships based on false images and false gods.. until we choose with God as our head we will continue to choose our relationships and all other things from a space of (self)ishness🖤
Thanks for your comment! I couldn’t agree with you more. Yes, false religion is certainly the culprit in why things are the way they are, culturally.
In African we do it the right way, in first understanding the meaning and purpose of marriage, whom a woman really is
Man I absolutely agree with this. We have come so far from the village we used to be. It is hurting us more than helping us. The enemy had definitely invaded the minds of our people. Polygamy is what made us great in life. When you think of man and woman belonging to the creator and not to one(self) you are only doing Gods work. Multiplying for (God) The more men, the greater the protection. The more women,the more mothers who need protecting. It’s really all about love. God is love. If there is any negative thought towards this system of love you gotta ask yourself what spirit you carry. “For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind” (2 Timothy 1:7)
Men are too selfish to conduct these relationships properly with women who do not see themselves as livestock.
Polygamy isn’t a good idea it’s not sin nor condoned
The practice of polygamy violates Article 3 of the ICCPR, guaranteeing equal rights for women and men, violates a woman's right to equality in marriage, and has severe financial effects on her and her children. CEDAW, Gen. Rec. 21, Para
Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh” (Gen. 2:24). This verse sets forth the biblical pattern for marriage as instituted by God in the beginning: one man is united to one woman in matrimony, and the two form one new family.
Deuteronomy 21:15-23
King James Version
15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:
16 Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn:
17 But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.
That’s one way to look at it, but if you were applying it as law it no where says he cannot also hold fast to a second wife or beyond, or that his ability to become one flesh with a wife is somehow limited to one… I’m not entirely certain on the matter, but I’m simply saying you can’t use just that verse as an end all be all end to the argument, from a legal perspective there is too much left unexplained.
Paul says a man can be one flesh with a prostitute. Also Jesus Christ uses polygamy as a parable. 1 bridegroom and 5 virgin wives for marriage.
@@BeachCityRyda Deuteronomy 17:17
And he shall not acquire many wives for himself,
@@mrmonay Deuteronomy 17:17
And he shall not acquire many wives for himself,
as for time stamp 6:30, no- Moses did not imply that polygamy itself was moral or Godly. Rather, God opposes divorce. And in that time, women had no rights of their own and would be financially doomed if her husband left her, as she would be marked “sexually impure/dirty”. Therefore, this verse is not allowing polygamy. Rather it is saying that if a man decides to engage in it, whether it be right or wrong (it’s wrong), he still has the responsibility to love, respect, and provide for his first wife.
Actually, Moses was only quoting God in Exodus 21, because all of these judgments were being dictated by God in that chapter. In fact, it was God who was speaking here since He gave the 10 commandments in 20. Now He was speaking through Moses here in chapter 21, only because in 20:19, the people requested that Moses mediate between them and God. Now we know that it was moral, because instructions on how to practice it came from God, because it consisted of how people are to treat and function together as people in marital relation, monogamous or polygamous, which is the very definition of morality, btw. Then to support what I’m saying, even further, Jesus affirmed that what Moses wrote was a standard of righteousness, which means to morally do what God requires, according to Matthew 5:17-20.
Now I have a question, since you persist in communicating that polygamy was not a moral blessing from God and that He only regulated what He didn’t intend, please tell me where in the Bible does it actually teach that polygamy is not moral in the eyes of God?
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen permitted or not- polyamory and polygamy is not God’s intention. The bible quite literally tells us marriage is when the man leaves his mother and father for his wife and the two become one flesh. in that fact alone, you can’t leave your parents twice. once you do, that’s it- your priority is your wife and not them. and likewise the woman submits to her husband. you can’t become “one flesh” with multiple people. marriage is intended for one man and one woman and that’s it. not two men, not 5 women. one man, one woman.
and btw yes I hold this belief and will not change it. although I disagree with you, I do so respectfully and decide to agree to disagree. And now that I’ve answered your question, I would appreciate if you answered mine. Thank you :)
Everytine discernment is given for marriage, it os monogamous. Marriage was created as monogamous. It is prohibited in the NT. It always caused friction when practiced in the OT. It was a temporary fix for accountability, just like ethics in slavery. Treating them as family and not placing them out in a world the could not adapt to. It was also a temporary means of focused evangelism. We were born free in the garden of Eden and not as slaves. God intends for neither crimes against humanity and adultery. Thatvis of Sodom.
@@avaorpilla If it wasn’t God intention why would he allow Jacob to have multiple wives? You’re making no sense.
Back then people were pure until destruction accurd and because of all the sexual immorality God changed it to one husband and one wife. Like it was ORIGINALLY.
Thanks for your comment! But can you back that all up with Scripture?
I think since every Christian has been given the Holy Spirit.. let's rely on that
lol yikes you guys are beyond redemption
Are you serious?..it clearly states MAN shall leave mother and father and shall cleave to his WIFE.. singular. Deuteronomy had a command to not multiply wives. Jesus said the 2 (1 man 1 woman) shall become 1. And there is a pattern of confusion to all the men that had multiple wives check the record. God never commend that practice.. he allowed it for what purpose I don't know, maybe because of ignorance
First off Brother John, I want to thank you for your reply and sincerely apologize for just getting back to you! As for cleaving to one’s WIFE, singular, and as for Jesus stating, 2 shall become one, I suggest to you that the word one here could not logically nor mathematically mean one and the same. However, the word one throughout Scripture is rather about the unity between 1 man and 1 woman in marriage. Not that the 2 become no longer 2 individuals, because marriage never is meant to take away either’s individuality. Also, the union between man and woman in marriage is illustrated by the imagery of a man and woman in marriage becoming like one body joined in unity (see Eph. 5:25-31). Also, Scripture speaks of the Church in the same way (1 Cor. 12:12-26). All this means Brother is that just as with the Church, individual members join in to become unified in purpose with Christ’s body, just wives join in within their husband’s body in a unified purpose. That’s all.
As far as Deuteronomy commanding against multiplying wives, that is only in reference to kings in 17:17. However, this does not mean Kings could not take on multiple wives altogether. For multiple does not mean the same thing as multiply. Just as a king could not acquire excessive horses, they were not permitted to take on excessive wives according this passage.
As to the pattern of confusion found with men with multiple wives, I suggest it is you who should look closer, because the first sin, murder, lie, etc. came by way of families where men were monogamous. Go look at Adam, Cain, etc. In fact, most men in the Bible were monogamous and all have actually sinned. Therefore, it is a self defeating claim to suggest that monogamy has been any less confusing in this world. Look at all the confusion that has been caused by this so called monogamous western society today. Finally, on qGod never commending the practice, pls see Exodus 21:7-11 & 2 Sam 12:7-8).
John Leslie, though Mike already replied to your comment, I wanted to share my thoughts with you as well, before I read what Mike replied, so that my comment was authentic. “Man shall leave his mother and father to cleave to his wife...” could simply imply cleaving to his FIRST wife. Most polygamous relationships at that time did not start with the man and all his wives at once. He acquired more over time. Then, Jesus saying that man and woman will become one does not dictate nor denote that there is any limitation to wives, and that the man in question cannot be one with each of his wives, so as to treat them quality both literally and in a spiritual sense. God never commends or opposes multiple wives because, as it appears currently, he felt no need to. That as long as the man, as instructed by the verses referenced, took care of each wife equally, and adhered to all of God’s other laws pertaining to marriage and courtship, he would not be displeasing the Lord.
@@BlackSuitShoe read acts it said "God winked in times of ignorance".. also in the book of judges God was displeased with men and he left them all without counsel or guidance and it said everyone did what was right in his own eyes.. many times people do what they think is right on their own eyes. And God sighs letting them alone for their ignorance.. like today many believe they can divorce and remarry. Which is another way of ignorance
Luminaria Gaming well said! Couldn’t have said it any better...
The one man one woman words Jesus stated was in respond to the question raised on DIVORCE; and not on Polygyny.
New Testament. Three passages in the pastoral epistles (1Timothy 3:2, 1Timothy 3:12 and Titus 1:6) state that church leaders should be the "husband of one wife." This has been read by some Christian denominations as a prohibition of polygamy.
Thanks for your comment! The answer to whether if church leaders are not to practice polygamy, according to 1 Timothy 3:2, 12 & Titus 1:6 is contained in my book, “Biblical Polygamy…,” on page 17-18. It reads,
“It’s important to realize who the audience is when we read the Bible. This letter was written to a Greek congregation, at Ephesus. Note, the Greeks in the first century did not practice polygyny in public marriage. They may have participated in it with having secret harems and concubinage, but never in public marriage to claim Paul was somehow commanding against its practice with such an irrelevant audience. Also, the Greek word for “one” here is “mias” and is better translated as “first, in my opinion, so the passage should instead read like this, “the husband of the ‘first’ wife.” For such translation is consistent with Exodus 21:10-11 that communicates that if a man takes on an additional wife, the first is not to be diminished in exchange for a new. This is something the Greeks, on the other hand, did practice. For they commonly practiced swapping one wife for a new one. A version of monogamy that is so commonly practiced in western culture today. Another thing to consider is this very same phrase and word “mias” was also used by Paul in regards to women. Same wording but he was telling the widows there in 1 Timothy 5:9, “A widow should be enrolled if she is at least sixty years old, the wife of “the first man.” You see, Greek women didn’t practice polyandry, but many did divorce for any and every reason just as the men did. This is also why this was an issue amongst the Israelites while under Greco-Roman culture (Matthew 19:3). Frivolous divorce became a big issue in the first century, so Paul was likely instructing leaders to be a good example by not swapping wives. Hopefully, this helps although lengthy.
According to these scriptures, polygyny is only forbidden to Bishops, deacons and elders. Wow, eye opening. So it means to me that only the rest of us men are allowed to have multiple wives.
@@Ema8687 Not really, it’s a suggestion for Bishop, deacons, and elders. Not a commandment (1 Corinthians 7)
Matt 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
Matthew 19 is about Jesus’ being challenged about what his position on divorce is and polygamy. Divorce is about subtracting a wife, while polygamy is to add wives.
This video was like watching women who want to preach try and back it up with scripture..
So let me get you straight, are you seriously equating a woman falsely attempting to preach with God Himself allowing and giving regulations for men to continue to practice polygamy in Exod. 21:7-11 & Deut. 21:15-17?
Are you seriously saying that Scripture doesn’t back a man desiring and having multiple women when it was God Himself Who gave David the first 16 wives he had and was willing to give David more in 2 Sam. 12:7-8?
Are you serious saying that Scripture doesn’t back up polygamy when God Himself spoke of His Relationship with Israel and Judah as He Himself having two wives in Jer. 3:1-8, showing that His Relationship with His people mirrors the relationship He permits men to have with plural women?
Oh and follow up questions.. do you believe that patriarchy is God ordained? And do you think God’s provisions are culturally time sensitive? #CYoPodcast
C’Yo - Create Your Own yes patriarchy is God ordained as I laid out in referencing Ephesians 5:22-24 and 1 Corinthians 11:1-10.
And what do you mean by God’s provision?
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen provision as in the act or process of providing. b : the fact or state of being prepared beforehand. ... meaning whenever God “ordained certain parameters “ he did it with the times in mind. Making it make sense.. allowing polygamy and patriarchy due to the needs of the time frame and society during that time. And understanding that God is all knowing, do you think he evolved as we evolved? Much like we don’t have to offer up blood sacrifices.. or do many things our christian forefathers had to do.. #CYOPodcast
C’Yo - Create Your Own C’Yo - thank you for clarifying for me your definition of God’s provisions are! To start, what I think or what makes sense to me for the culture of today doesn’t really matter. It always boils down to what God thinks, so I am only just being an advocate of Biblical Principle, and a firm believer that it transcends whatever the cultural norms there are at any given time in any geo-location, period. However, that’s not say that I don’t agree with the fact that there are specific statutes that have become obsolete within Scripture, such as with the animal sacrifices that you’ve correctly pointed out. Nevertheless, the God of Bible does not change (Mal. 3:6-7; Heb. 13:8). People change, while His principles remain timeless. Haven’t you read how patriarchy still exists in God’s provision from the Old to the New Testament period where women are still commanded to “submit to everything” in the headship of their husbands (1 Cor. 11:1-8; Eph. 5:22-24 & 1 Pet. 3:1-7). Also interestingly enough, this idea of patriarchy is so clearly revealed within the NT that the Apostle Paul, speaking to Timothy concerning putting godly leadership over his newly planted Greek congregation at Ephesus, imposed and commanded for them timeless Biblical principles that were not previously known to them. For the Greek women of his day were conditioned to seek power through provocative attire over men, so Paul taught against it in 1 Timothy 2:9-13. Then in chapter 3:2, we see that he taught that a Bishop, in that same Greek congregation, was not to be into wife swapping. A practice so prevalent among them where a man would leave one for another. Which is why he stated that a man desiring to be Bishop, “...must be the husband of the first wife.” He cannot leave one for the other as often practiced amongst the Greeks, because it was they that first imposed “forced monogamy” culturally and not the Hebrews. However, Paul saw that although ancient Hebrew culture was not that of the Greeks, however he did deem it a godly provision to even require such standards upon a people and time foreign to the covenants of God.
@@coreybrownCYoBrown “On that day I will raise up The tabernacle of David, which has fallen down, And repair its damages; I will raise up its ruins, And rebuild it as in the days of old; (Amos 9:11)
"4 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach. 2 In that day shall the branch of the Lord be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and comely for them that are escaped of Israel." (Isaiah 4:1
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I got a problem with the word polynegy the Bible calls it marriage . So that word which 3ver you choose isn't biblical at all.
Thank you for your comment! Actually the Bible does speak of one ‘taking on another’ as a wife, which is to take on multiple wives (Exodus 21:10). In other words, multiple wives is the same thing as having multiple marriages. However the word polygyny is only the Greek synonym for multiple marriage. Why do you then take issue with the word polygyny?
The terms "bride" and "wife" are used in the bible both in a singular sense and also in a plural sense. God refers to the nation of Israel as his wife and he also refers to the bride of Christ being made up of many members.
+Randy Lessley Music thanks! Yes that is true.
That's because HE is God an He loves all of us why on earth would any Polygamist think this is what they should do😂
I just saw a video where a pastor referenced Deut. 17:17 “Neither shall he multiply wives for himself, lest his heart turn away; nor shall he greatly multiply silver and gold for himself.” (NKJV). So is this LAW and if so, does that mean polygyny is frowned upon by G*d? Another statement he made was “everything that was DEscribed in the Bible is not PREscribed to G*d’s people.” What’s your thoughts on that statement as well?
Good questions Brother! Pastors use this passage and the ‘not prescribed’ argument out of plain ole desperation and misinterpretation.
The context of Deuteronomy 17:17 is about greatly increasing and not somehow a strike against polygyny. If a king couldn’t have more than one woman, then according to the context, he couldn’t have more than one piece of silver, gold or horse either. For that would mean that Yahweh Himself had violated this law when He told Solomon that He would make him rich in money and also gave him have many horses in 1 Kings 3:10-13; 2 Chron. 9:25. Another passage to show that Yahweh was not against polygyny is in 2 Chron. 24:1-3, that shows He was pleased with King Joash taking on 2 wives. In this passage, even the priest in Israel, Jehoiada, was the one who took part in approving and supplying multiple wives for this young king.
On the ‘not prescribed’ argument, 2 Tim. 3:16 lets us know that there is a prescriptive principle in “All Scripture and is useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness…”
Bro this is exactly what me and my wife needed to hear...thank you so much...this world has turned GODS BOOK TOTTALLY AROUND....
Blessings to you and the Mrs.!
+@expeditingwithbruthamarc618
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polygamous marriages....ends up in ruins....the generation is fighting
Thanks for the comment! Nevertheless, Forced Monogamous marriages and relationships end in ruins much more.... Look at the stats. Polygamous cultures actually have a low divorce rate while in western forced monogamous cultures divorce is at 70%.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen thats because women in those countries don't have the same Wrights as we do in America. Most of those women will not survive without their husband. The divorce rate might be low but it doesn't mean the wives and children are happy.
Quachel Bazile thanks for your comment! I agree that women in those countries do not have the rights as in this one. However, we have to also consider beyond the idea of what we call ‘happy.’ There is no team situation where it is necessary for every individual to be happy at every given time. Why, because happiness of individuals should not trump the causes by the overall goal. Hence where the whole team wins. When the team becomes reduced to the need for individuals to be ‘happy first’ then the team becomes self defeating. Take for instance in basketball, it is not necessary for every team member to shine by shooting the ball all the time. Some are needed to defend more or to pass the ball or just run. While others need to get in the position to score. With the issue of women and children not having prominent roles in society, we need to look at which society drives humanity further along. Which make it safer for the overall team. Not that it is necessary for every individual is happy.
Also, is it truly good to have just women and children so called surviving without men, or isn’t it always better if they are a part of an overall family unit?
@@queb6688 what you mean by “rights” are all these frivolous “freedoms” that American people have but specifically women in this scenario. Having “freedoms” isn’t always translated positively. We still have laws governing us but they’re loose laws and that’s why we’re headed for an anarchy as a country. Being regulated isn’t sexy, but it’s necessary.
An excellent and biblical presentation on a sensitive topic, brother. Well done.
Thank you so kindly Brother Dave! And a sensitive topic it is... God Bless you Sir!
I wish u were in md to teach this
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen So just to confirm My Brotha is it a sin if I have like two girlfriends for the rest of my life ?
Just 2 comments ago you were dooping a white guy for his Western mind now you out here collecting compliments... Make your mind
@@emmanuellatieku2901 truth is truth. Race is social construct, why keep referring back to it? Why divide people?
He tells David that he would have given him more wives to say that him having more wives would have been a better choice that him killing a man just to cover up the fact that he committed adultery. Not that he wants him to be polygynous.
Furthermore, the Bible says that if a man were to have more than one wife he must love and treat them equally. Yet time and time again it’s proven even throughout the Bible that it is impossible for a man to love and treat his wives equally. Therefore. Polygyny IS a sin.
Thanks for your comment! However, if God was not for David being polygynous, then why did He give him his master’s wives in the first place? Why not just tell him polygyny is wrong just as He told him that adultery and murder was wrong in this same chapter?
Please tell me where does the Bible specifically say that a man must love and treat his wives equally? And where does it say that polygyny is a sin? Or is that just your bias sentiments at play?
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen
Ephesians 5:25
Ephesians 5:33
Exodus 21:10
You have to give them both food shelter and marital rights. It’s impossible for a man to do no matter how he things he can. Especially for the duration of his life. No man, even if he tried can keep up with providing all of these things rarely to even 1 woman let alone 2. It’s why even women look to have multiple partners.
Which. If we are going to take the route that you are taking. The Bible never explicitly says that a woman cannot have multiple husbands..
It says that she can’t commit adultery by having sex with a man that isn’t her husband. But if they are married it’s not adultery! Therefore she can marry as many men as she wants as long as they are married she’s fine!
But, we do have a verse
1 Corinthians 7
Stating that each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. The wife’s body doesn’t belong to her but to her husband and the husbands body doesn’t belong to him but to his wife!
Duet: 17:17 explicitly states that kings should not multiply wives.
So yes both Solomon and king David were living in sin based off that scripture alone!
So the fact that you’re using God said he’d give him more.. as god condoning polygyny. Says that you’ve missed the bigger picture in that scripture.
I’d like to also mention that king David and Solomon did not go unpunished for their polygamous ways.
Their hearts did turn away from god and the foundation of their families weakened
If they only had one wife and children with that one wife. There would be less of a rivalry for the throne.
Family members would be more secure. They would have to worry about sons from other wives raping sisters from other wives because this is the reality of it. These things did happen and often.
Let’s deal with reality. Because I’ve already seen 5 families practice polygyny since this whole “god doesn’t condemn polygyny” fad has been on the rise. at first they were married monogamous. And now none of them are married at all.
In reality. Polygamy breeds rivalry and jealousy. Against wives and siblings. So much so that siblings killed other siblings for inheritance. Wives killed other wives and children of other wives for the same reason. It’s also the same thing that happens this day in age. Not to mention the witch craft that wives do to other wives and their children. These are all real things and things that happen all the time in these situations.
No matter how you cut it. Polygyny ends in disaster.
Even in my talks with people from Africa. A man marries a second wife often times then not he forgets about the first one and leaves her children to take care of her.
This is the reality of it.
But it happens. So in order to have some sort of remedy. TMH made laws as to not harm those involved in such a horrendous placement.
There is nowhere in the Bible where wife is used in a plural state. Yes some great men in the Bible had multiple wives so let’s look into that. Polygamy led to the fall of David as his children participated in incest and eventually all were slain except for Solomon because he was raised by Nathan the prophet. King Solomon also regretted the vanity of his actions. So I hope you repent and stop misleading. Here are just a few scripture verses about marriage..
Deuteronomy 17:17
Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.
Genesis 2:24
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Timothy 3:2
A bishop must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behavior, given to hospitality, apt to teach.
Titus 1:6
If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
1 Corinthians 7:2
Nevertheless, to avoid fortification, let every man have his own wife and let every woman have her own husband.
Proverbs 18:22
He who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtains favor from the LORD.
You know that a man and woman marriage is sacred. It sounds like you're trying to convince yourself that polygyny is okay. Or you are already convinced. Would that make two of the three peoples a homosexual? God is not a God of confusion. I hope you're not doing this intentionally. Now to find the son of perdition.
Im glad Im not the only one. Lol. So many delusional people in these comments.
Wth are you talking about. It's wrong to have an orgy. Get your mind out of the gutter
Just because polygamy was described in the bible doesn’t mean it was deemed moral by God. The Bible is a historical document that denotes God’s word, the devil’s influence on His people, and historical accuracies in that area at that time. Just because it is denoted in the bible doesn’t mean it is promoted by the bible. Also God specifically commands “don’t multiply wives” in the Bible.
Thanks for your comment, but I don’t think you’re considering all of the Biblical facts in Scripture, because the Bible does a great deal more than just “describe polygamy.” First, it permits its; it regulates laws on how to practice it and assumes it as a normal viable practice (Exodus 21:7-11; Deuteronomy 21:15-17. Second, it praises God for using it to build Israel into a great nation (Ruth 4:11). And thirdly, It is certainly moral, because is the Blesser of it (2 Samuel 11:7-8; Genesis 33:1-5).
Now as for “God specifically commanding, don’t multiply wives,” who was He talking to and why did He say this, is what we must consider? In Deuteronomy, God is talking to kings and not every male citizen in Israel, because the king bears the responsibility of being the first protector of a nation, and as the passage puts it in verse 17, “Neither shall he multiply wives for himself, lest his heart turn away...” See, the goal of this command is not to prevent him from having multiple wives at all but to limit him from excessively taking on many. A proof of this would be given the fact that in vs. 16-17, the king is not permitted multiply horses, amass greatly silver and gold in addition to not to multiply wives. However, in either instance, God was not commanding against kings from having multiple wives just as much as he was not to multiply horses and amass wealth. Why? Because God didn’t want the king’s heart to turn away from Him while leading His people. That’s all. Like with Solomon (1 Kings 11:1-4). Now another fact here is that it was common for kings to multiply by taking on many foreign wives back then, but God didn’t want any king in Israel to follow suit, so this is why He gave this command.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Just because something is a blessing doesn’t mean whatever caused it is according to God’s law. For example, if a child is conceived out of rape, does it make rape okay? Absolutely not. Is the child still a blessing and valuable to God and this world? Of course. Also, polygamy was a normal practice during that time, and God acknowledges that. So he set rules in place specifically talking about what to do when there are children belonging to both/all wives. Deuteronomy 21:15-17 isn’t talking about the morality of polygamy, it assumes that it is a reality (which is was) and explains how to treat the children equally in the case that it is
@@avaorpilla I think you’re missing the point by equating a rape with what God had given, say David, in 2 Samuel 12. Note, God didn’t have to give David his first set of multiple wives in the first place. It was God who stated that he “gave him his master’s wives and if that had not been enough, He would have given him more.” None of which were given to David because of sin, because David committed adultery and murder after receiving the wives mentioned in 12:8 and not before. Proving that God would have given David more if he would just have asked, and there was no need for him to have taken another man’s wife.
Then in Ruth 4:11, it is all of the people and elders at Bethlehem who said to Boaz that it was the Lord who built Israel into a great prosperous nation through Jacob’s two wives. It is clear.
Just admit that you have trouble with accepting the fact that the Scriptures actually teach against what you’ve been falsely taught about polygamy. For in both passages, God is the Giver and Blesser of polygamy. Now could this be why Jesus described His Messianic ministry as Him being a Spiritual Polygamist in Matthew 25:1-13. The Bridegroom coming for His ten virgins. Thus, a Polygamist. Another proof of His fulfilling what He claimed He came to fulfill in Luke 24:44-45, “all that the law and the prophets and the Psalms testified about Him.” For He fulfilled what the law and Prophets taught and stated about polygamy.
Then there’s God Himself claiming to be a Husband to the nations that came out of Israel in Jeremiah 3. Why? Because polygamy is a reflection of His relationship with His people, individually and nationally. While monogamy collectively (Ephesians 5:29-32).
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen obviously we have different interpretations of the word and that’s fine. but i am genuinely just curious about if you think polyamory is okay? (that is women having more than one husband)
@@avaorpilla actually what you’re asking about is polyandry, and no, I do not agree with it. Only polygyny where a man has multiple wives.! The Bible only supports polygyny, because polyamory can consist of group relationship, homosexual or polyandry which are each un-Scriptural.
Smh, false doctrine......🤦
1 timothy 3. Pls explain?
Hebrews 13:4 pls explain?
Bro u mixing j.smith & Muhammad teachings into Christianity....👎
+sonofsamoa81 thanks for your comment and query! However, if my doctrine is truly false, please explain how, scripturally. Although Joseph Smith and Muhammad each practiced and or taught polygyny, my doctrinal basis is upon the very Word of God.
As for 1 Timothy 3, with proper contextualization, word study and parsing one should find that this letter was written to a predominantly Greek congregation and culture where prescriptive monogamy was the norm. The Greeks then looked upon polygyny as being taboo. Also, in vs 2, the word ‘one,’ which is translated from the Greek word ‘mias,’ is better translated as - first. Thus, when Paul refers to men desiring to be a Bishop, he is simply saying, ‘they must only be of the first wife.’ In other words, they were not to be into swapping their first wife for another, which was a common practice among the Greeks and Romans within the first century. A man would often abandon his current wife to marry another. A treacherous practice God spoke against in Malachi 2:10-18; also in Exodus 21:7-11. Even Jesus spoke against wife swapping in Matthew 19:9. As you see, God has no problem with a man taking on another wife in Exodus 21:10. He just is against wife swapping.
As far as Hebrews 13:4 is concerned, polygyny could not be defiled based on this verse, because neither is it the act of fornication nor adultery. Fornication, biblically, is to have sex with prostitutes, according to 1 Corinthians 6:12-20. While adultery is when a man has sex with another man’s wife, Deuteronomy 22:22; Leviticus 20:10. Plus, adultery is punishable by death. With that being the case, men like Abraham, Moses, Jacob, Gideon, Elkanah; David, etc. should’ve all been stoned to death, because they all had multiple wives. Why it was God Himself who told David that He gave David all his 7-8 wives, at the time, in 2 Samuel 12:7-8. Nevertheless, these were all of great anointed holy men who even wrote Scripture.
Now again, please tell me how I and mixing J. Smith with Muhammad please!
Also i'd like to ask if you believe polygyny is acceptable now? I don't see how YAH ( God ) would change things because of the mercy performed by Christ. We're in the refreshing of old not a new covenant.
Deut 18:15-19 👉🏾 Acts 3:18-26 👉🏾 Luke 1:68-80
Yes I certainly believe polygyny is acceptable today and that Yah has not changed His standards due to His renewal of the Old Covenant. In Malachi 3, I decreed that He changes not.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Am'ane brother. Love this content. Most ain't coming with the truth! Respect brother. YAH bless you
Lloyd thanks Brother and back at ya!
Shalom, You bought up some great points Ahk! I hadn’t even made the connection about Moshe growing up during a time where there were more women than men. Getting ready to watch part 2!
Aleichem Shalom Achoti, and thank you so kindly for your compliments and support! Blessed be the Name of the MH! Yes, and Moshe is most definitely foundational to understanding Yah’s perspective and intent on creating plural marriage. From the decimated male population of his own generation to the proliferation of males at the Exodus demonstrates the potential power of what the free exercise of polygyny can do.
You said akh?? Very funny I thought you were Muslim because that is the term that Muslims use to each other anyways have a nice day
Greetings Sis,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen do you believe bible is the word of God??🤔
Most certainly!
Polygyny is in the scriptures but there's no law for it, only a law against it. Husbands should have one wife, that was the whole point of marriage in the beginning..
Thank you for your comment! However, you are wrong on saying there’s no law for polygyny. In Exodus 21:1-11, God commands Israel’s leadership, which is headed by Moses in how they were to decide in matters concerning those who had slaves and those who decided to take on additional wives. The Hebrew word for this is found in vs. 1, that is the word - mishpat: which means - judgment or ordinance, so God Himself commanded Moses in how specifically he was to decide in what God considered appropriate moral treatment here for a women and a man if the man decided to take on additional wives those he may decide to acquire as a slave. This word means a decision of the שֹׁפֵט in a case of law... in other words, these gave commanded guidelines for how leaders were to rule as well as what rights God gave to men and women in these legal contracts presented in a civil dispute. Therefore, God did give commandments on how polygyny was to be lawfully practiced within Israel by way of mishpat. Also, this word in context showed that polygyny was an implied contract governed under a decision of ordinance/judgment. Now an example of this would be like a contract formed today by sitting down in a restaurant and placing an order, a customer is thus agreeing to the implied laws of purchasing a meal, so when a man decided in Exodus 21 to take on an additional wife or to buy a slave, these were implied contractural laws in Israel they were then subject to. Making now there being laws God instituted for the practice of polygyny.
Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
I beleive 1 husband and 1 wife period.
I respectfully disagree. How come God never punish or rebuke any of the man of God in the old testament for having many wives?I think God leave that choice for a man to make on their own
You believe in a farrytale@@annetteduncan2959
how can I find a network of believers who also understand this? I feel like the only denominations is the mormons or something
True, there’s not many believers who either grasp or accept this Biblical lifestyle. That is the challenge! Now I’m not sure if you would consider yourself a Hebrew or a Christian. To that there are a lot of Hebrews communities that embrace polygamy. However, that is what I am working on building right now. A community that embraces these principles freely, whether one subscribes to Christian or Hebrew tenets. If interested, my Patreon Community is where I share postings, links, livestreams and chat room discourse, regularly, that’ll create networking and fellowshipping opportunity (www.patreon.com/MikeAllenDiggs). Please note, I recently opened this account and am still within the initial stages, so do bear with the humble beginning! Blessings!
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen That's great man. Yeah because I was thinking like: I believe in the New Testament and Jesus so do I need to find like a Jewish community or something that'll accept this. So thank you I'll check out your patreon
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Your Patreon link doesn't work for me maybe you should check it out
@@escalante6510 you’re welcome and thanks for letting me know about the glitch linking my Patreon account to my CZcams Channel. Will have to fix this later and get back to you Brother. Sorry about that! I’m not the most savvied.
@@escalante6510 Sorry about that! Will have to work on this when I get home to create an icon for my Channel linking to my Patreon. But in the mean time. Here’s a link you should be able to use instead:
www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=74266885
Hallelujah ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ so happy i encountered your very intuitive video. Praise the Lord Most High
Shalom! Thank you for your kind words!
Btw it's no coincidence I encountered your video brother, as I prayed to the Lord to show me his will concerning this to see clearly what He wants. You are blessed brother. Praise Yeshua ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ LOVE BROTHER
+@THECRYPTOWEATHERMAN Yes, Praise His Holy Name for allowing me to be an instrument in His hands 🙌🏾! It’s a privilege and honor! Blessings to you and yours!
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Sin is the transgression of the law. 1 John 3:4 not only is there no law against it, there are actually instructions on how to do it correctly and that in some cases it's almost even expected. What do you think taking care of the fatherless and widow is all about?
I think it’s exactly what we needed in a “Redeemer.” Now whether “Kinsmen” or not, all Who belong to Him have been “adopted in.” Therefore, than if Messiah can lead us to become the adopted fatherless, then why should not we become fathers to those without. Thanks for your comment!
Oh my goodness, i didn't even think about it like that.
Thank you brother so much for clarifying this subject. In modern-day Christianity, they do not teach on this matter. A part of me believes that they do not desire to teach on this topic because of the multiplying of Yahs Children in a foreign land would probably be a force to be reckon with.
Thank you for comment and words of encouragement Bro! I totally agree with your belief on Yah’s Children being prevented from multiplying to their full potential in this foreign land. The same spirit of fear that yokes the west is the same spirit of fear that had Egypt in fear of our people populating the land in Exodus 1.
I have a question, what if the current wife has a problem with the husband desiring another woman that’s capable of being a wife ....
What’s your take on this , please explain???
Thanks brother...
@@powerofyahinyahshua4825 you’re welcome and great question btw! I say one thing to bear in mind is the fact polygyny, it is always ultimately the choice of the husband and not the wife. We so happen to live within modern systems and cultures that works against it. In such a case, the husband must determine if he will either wait and hope she changes her mind, put his foot down and proceed with taking on another wife without her consent or just give up the idea of attaining multiple wives altogether. The problem with our current state of affairs is that women tend to use whatever culture leverage they have against it. However, at the end of the day, Biblically, a husband reserves the right to demand it, and if his wife resists it, then she is rebelling her obligation to be submissive as the Church is to be submissive to Yashua Himself...
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen 😮
You know it’s interesting because I was thinking about the samething, concerning if the wife decides she wants nothing to do with it ..
Is that not blasphemy & unfortunately a unsubmissive wife??? I recently came across this revelation, and I do desire another women to be my wife , however I’m considering all things . Such as the feelings, law of the land , ceremonial acceptions with Yah, etc.....
My current wife is not happy at all about my possible desire of another wife....
she’s threatening even separation, I’m like Wow.
This is a lot to bare .....
How should I approach the situation, now that we all know unequivocally that polygny is not a sin ?????? Please respond beloved brother
@@powerofyahinyahshua4825 It is definitely blasphemous and makes her a non-submissive wife. You are being sound in your assessment as far as I can see. However, I strongly urge you pray and fast for Yah’s direction and clarity!!! As far as what decision you should make with your current wife, wait to hear His voice on the matter first. Although you’d be within your rights to just divorce and move on from her, you don’t know what He knows. She might be the very woman to turn down the road. Only He knows the future. Although she is to be submissive, you are to yet to treat her as the weaker vessel and be patient with her. However, with Yah’s guidance, He may very well tell to let her go. Prayerfully this helps!
Help me understand the difference between a wife and a concubine.
How does this still apply today?
Blessings to you.
Thanks Jay for the great question! The difference between a wife and a concubine, I believe, is best defined in Biblical context! A Wife is a suitable helper created for the husband who becomes one with his body which means one in unity and purpose. While a concubine is a also a wife but with a lesser status within the household. She is outranked by the wife in household authority like with a slave or in today’s times, a maid. She could not receive a bill of divorce upon separation and was not entitled like a wife was. Her children received inheritance but were considered socially inferior to those of the wife. Both the wife and concubine became one flesh with and were covered by the husband and were expected to be monogamous to him. Hopefully this helps! Many Blessings to you too!
Certainly in comparing these differences to today’s times, a concubine is more of a glorified version of a girlfriend. A more dignified version, at that, because she is covered in the oneness bond of marriage. She is legitimately spoken for. By law, the husband bears responsibility to her. She is not to be discarded like a one night stand and is not to be exploited sexually. If modern day women understood what a concubine is, I don’t think they’d average sleeping with at least 15-20 or more men by the time they’re 35. A sad statistic, but ignorance is killing the culture!
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Thanks for the info. Why wouldn't you just have two wives? I'm not sure why the need for a concubine if multiple wives are acceptable?
Did the wife have a say in the status of a concubine?
Great question! The reason for concubinage, in addition to there being the ability to have more than one wife option is for a number of Biblical reasons. #1 not all women within society share the same status. Some have been slaves, while others free. In which case, a slave woman can be covered within the family and household of a man. For instance, if a woman today is hired as a maid, and the man she works for has a wife that cannot produce children and the household still needs a maid, then the concubinage system made sense, because otherwise they'd have to find a new maid after he married the current one, because her status would thus change. She would, by default, become equal with the first. Then at the same time, if she is hired as a life long maid, then she, on the other hand, gains the benefit of becoming part of the family and now have her needs as a woman fulfilled (material, sexual and spiritual). #2 another example found in Scripture is with women who were former prostitutes, #3 widows or #4 prisoners of war. In such cases, these women were taken on as concubines because of not having anyone to vouch for them and their integrity. Which is why men paid a high bride price of about $275 in todays equivalence for a virgin. To have a wife's status was not something so easily attained in Biblical times because of the emotional baggage a non virgin carries. Something not highly as regarded within today's culture. @@jayoh2k
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Thanks for the information. Any biblical references I can have to check this info out?
Your time is most appreciated!
Does anyone know how to find other Christians who are Polygynous and/or supporters of Polygyny? Trying to find other families for support and friendship.
Great questions! Here’s a way: biblicalfamilies.org
How do you explain 1 Corinthians. 7:2, Matthew 19:4-5 or 1 Timothy 3:2?
+@navyglass1242
1 Cor. 7:2 is explained by the fact that western translations tend to conceal lawful Biblical polygyny. In this verse, the words his own and her own are two distinct Greek words that denotes she has a shared ownership while he has an exclusive ownership over her which is not shared with anyone else.
Matt. 19:4-5 is based on the context of verses 3. The Pharisees were seeking to test and entrap Yeshua on His doctrine, so they initiated this conversation in the context of “a man putting away his wife for any and every reason.” However, Yeshua pointed her that a man putting away his woman on such basis does not coincide with the reason marriage is created. Unity not separation. Therefore, based on the context, these verses has absolutely nothing to do with polygamy vs. monogamy. Only divorcing improperly.
And in 1 Tim. 3:2, this is yet another translation bias made by Christianity. The historical context of when Paul wrote demonstrates that “a Bishop must be the husband of one wife” should be otherwise transliterated with either “a” or “first” instead of the word “one” here. You see, the instructions for the Greek congregation Paul was writing to Timothy here about didn’t even practice polygamy in public marriage. Neither the Greeks nor the Romans did so, because they had laws against and this was their religious practice of not marrying multiple women at the same time. The translators used the word “one” because Greco-Roman bias when Catholic conditioning in the 16th century was to prescribe monogamy only.
There's a reason why main stream media is now promoting this.
I promise you, main stream media is in no promoting the Biblical Lifestyle of Polygyny Moses, David, Gideon, etc. practiced. However, what you have promoted today vastly is nothing more than paganistic hedonism. Biblical Polygyny is a holy way of marriage.
It's not we are just going back to the real Bible and actually listening to the WORD
He's only reading from the old testament. Read the new testament and see why it's wrong.
@@myoddhacksstuff3500 the new testament is the law on our hearts not a different law.hence polygamy still allowed.
@@myoddhacksstuff3500 You need to repent for what you said about the OT
The writers of scriptures were SPECIAL workers of God. You can not compare yourself to them.
Although they were special, they still were human, which Scripture urges us to follow their example (1 Cor. 11:1; 1 Thess. 1:6; Rom. 15:4). We’re even told to imitate God and Christ (Eph. 5:1;,1 John 2:3-6; John 13:15).
😂😂😂😂@ SPECIAL WORKERS.with the death and resurrection of Jesus in place ,I’m sure we are more special than those of old
”Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body. Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything. Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her,“
Ephesians 5:22-25 NKJV
Why deutoronomy 17 17 said the King should not have multiple wives ? Iam confused
Peace Brother! In context, this passage is not forbidding polygyny but idolatry. You see, God never wanted His leaders to trust more in riches, military or pagan alliances formed by multiplying wives, which is why He commanded against it in Deuteronomy 17:14-20. However, evil leaders and evil men have always abused all of these, to include the use of ‘monogamy only policies,’ but the issue is not in attaining these resources, per se. The real problem is when these things are abused, thereby putting more trust in them than in God Himself (1 Timothy 6:10; Genesis 3:17; 2 Samuel 24:1-17). In Deuteronomy 17, notice that if God didn’t want a king to have more than one woman, the context is also showing the same in prohibition of amassing horses and riches. However, but prohibition could not be the proper interpretation, because God Himself made Solomon richer than any other man and gave David, and Jacob their multiple wives (1 Kings 3:7-13; 2 Kings 12:7-8; Gen 33:1-7; Ruth 4:11).
Polygamy is so bad in general and bad for your health and much worse than monogamy.
Because:
Sure you GIVE good: Love for all, freedom, no jealousy (umm right), no clingyness, stuff like that.
But you also GIVE terrible: not ever giving full attention to anyone, making no one feel special, making a lover wait around while your in another location with another lover, etc etc. And that's just not good enough. Not loving / caring enough. Even if your lovers say it's fine its not fine, and you should actually want to give "best" to someone you love and not ever hurt them in any way even in a small way, not half good treatment, so. (Basically you're a worse lover than what a monogamist lover who willingly provides great treatment.)
How can you do that to your lover? It's bordering cruelty. Just No.
Polygamists love to brag alot how they think they're superior blah blah.. But. Really, Monogamy is the good treatment a lover deserves to receive from a caring loving lover...
Monogamy is just amazing and caring and healthy and the truly noble unselfish relationship style.
Because love isn't just love it's "treatment" too.
Polygamists say they're unselfish cause they share etc, BUT no, choosing many lovers for yourself and giving all of them just part time care and attention etc, that's not noble at all.
It's the most selfish.
It's like choosing many slices of delicious nice cakes and not finishing any / choosing many cute lovely nice little kittens and neglecting all of them. No no no. GTFO. You are horney and uncaring.
That's sadistic narcissism hurtful selfishness. You are the worse ones, you really are.
Even if you can love many, which is easy and fun tbh, not some rare talent, decide to pick one to settle down with, so you can give all of you, (including TIME etc which is impossible for polygamists) to your chosen lover. Cause you want to cause you're in love and therefor you care deeply. Also never make her suppress / feel any sort of bad emotions like jealousy, left out, loneliness (It's natural tbh), forced to suppress competitive feelings, forced to smile through the bad side of polygamy and be a good unbothered unhurt polygamist. Ew.
Monogamy treatment is the most caring kind amazing unselfish noble thing to do in the end.
Hanna, looking at the events of today, your argument aren’t very strong! Millions of men in monogamous relationships try everything to „worship“ their women, still she does not feel it’s enough. A woman should feel special if a man marries her, especially as a non virgin... but today it is not enough. He has to make her his god, which is a joke!
Second, biblically, a good woman is virgin, deserves to be honoured and respected. What we see is a big mass of promiscuous women, wanting exclusivity and being worshipped by the potential men, after having no value. She proved to be more keen to repeatedly sleep with different men! Who in his right mind, believe she suddenly changes for the next 50 years of her live , when she was never that person in he first 25-30 years. It’s ridiculous.
As an adult, respect is the best you can get from a person. What you want to say about „feeling special“ is god like worship. No man should bow to any woman. And even that won’t prevent the woman to disrespect him few days later. You should think about the behaviour of women, before telling any man what he should do...
@@Fitricson I disagree. Any woman who does not see the value of a man worshiping her has an intrinsic personal problem that she needs to deal with. That’s what’s really at hand right now. People being disrespectful and treating others like scrap meat has more to do with that person then the other person receiving bad treatment. Someone wanting polygamy has more so to do with their heart then the desires of multiple people wanting them. If one man wants multiple woman has more so to do with his heart and where her heart is that. You see where I’m going with this? If a woman doesn’t appreciate the love kindness and gratitude respect that she is getting from a man in the first 25 to 30 years of her life that she has a deep deep issue then we can ever imagine. Maybe his childhood trauma? Maybe it’s molestation? But how she treats another human being has nothing to do with the other human being. But everything to do with her heart
@@DivineLoveMachineGun it’s all bad behaviour based on Traumas? Common! It would be to easy to put the responsibility away from the person.... women are very easy to manipulate if something seems to be beneficial to them, like feminism. Bad behaviour is a conscious decision for which they have to the consequences, like more men walking away from western women, less marriages etc.
Wanting to have multiple women is good when it is done lawful. You all are talking against scriptures and without any psychological evidence that the man has a bad heart. Who said that? It is your personal beliefs, westernised belief. Look at the controversy, many women today chase married men. Where is the exclusivity? Many women sleep with multiple men in a time period, what does them make worthy of any exclusive relationship?
No man should bow down or worship any woman! I wrote about the condition, not that it is a healthy behaviour! And you seem to like the idea. The disrespect is not worth to chase any woman.
The people who want polygyny should just stay together, the people who want monogamy should stay together... And the two sides just should not interact since no middle ground can be reached. I don't believe either side is really wrong until the polygynist side usually tries to recruit young women into becoming a sister wife when they sternly don't want to. Or shame/threaten them for not approving of it. Or even some men who are wicked enough to divorce their wife when they originally married under monogamy but then he wants Polygyny later. Love is becoming less and less in this world, unfortunately.... And people are becoming more and self serving.
Strict monogamy is a Western concept that was enforced and popularized by the Catholic Church. The modern traditional version of Christianity is a counterfeit ideology that adopted a lot of Greco-Roman traditions and has nothing to do with the early Nazarene Jews.
this video is sending people to hell REBUKED
+Dymon Beats thanks for your comment! However, I would love to hear how you’ve come to such conclusion?
Don’t forget to remind people about Paul;
1Corinthians
7 I wish that all were as I myself am. 8To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain single, as I am.12 To the rest I say this 17....This is the rule I lay down in all the churches. 25 I have no command from the Lord,but I give a judgment as one who by the Lord’s mercy is trustworthy. 40 In my judgment, I think that I too have the Spirit of God.
Please elaborate!
Polygyny was lost withing the roman empire, "Cun manum" and "sine manum mariage" will give you the answer. Polygyny was prohibited in the Roman Empire.
we inherited it from the roman catholic church.
In any case, I must say that the bishops and deacons of the church are inded limited to one wife (1 Timothy 3).
Good presentation on the polygynous economy.
Thanks Brother Hondo for your encouraging compliment!
+Polygamy As Economic Warfare Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
There is a slight paradox, you used a verse about a man taking a slave wife to show how polygamy wasn't a sin. With that same logic then is slavery ok? Is taking a slave ok?
Great question! Yes Sir, slavery most certainly is okay. In the Bible, there are different types of slaves. You see, in Israel, slaves become part of the faith and even the family. Slaves have rights of dignity and are to be treated as such. Even in the New Testament, slaves and slave masters sat side by side in the worship assembly. That’s why the passage I used in my video points out how a slave in Israel can become her master’s wife. For the God of provided, blessed and even regulated the continual practice of slavery.
However, here in the west, we are very familiar with another picture concerning slavery. One where people are stolen and forced into it, dehumanized and even taught that God justifies such treatment.
However, the Bible undoubtedly commands against abuse and even codifies punishments against such kind of barbaric pagan cruelty of God’s people. Therefore, the system of Biblical slavery is okay in the eyes of God, because it is designed to elevate humanity; not to destroy it.
Thebible condones beating slaves. Your argument is immoral.
Bro wat verse says that if you buy a slave and make it your wife don't abandoned your first wife ?
Exodus 21:7-11.
Everytine discernment is given for marriage, it os monogamous. Marriage was created as monogamous. It is prohibited in the NT. It always caused friction when practiced in the OT. It was a temporary fix for accountability, just like ethics in slavery. Treating them as family and not placing them out in a world the could not adapt to. It was also a temporary means of focused evangelism. We were born free in the garden of Eden and not as slaves. God intends for neither crimes against humanity and adultery. Thatvis of Sodom.
Seeking 2nd wife
+TrueTribe I pray all the best in The Father’s Divine Wisdom and Counsel!
God just didn't get in the way , he knows man will do what they desire, but his plan was always one wife !!
Genesis 2:24
King James Version
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Deuteronomy 17:17
King James Version
17 Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.
1 Timothy 3:2-12
King James Version
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach
God allows us free will, that doesn't mean he supports it. God didn't get in the way of divorce, does that mean he likes it ??
Malachi 2:16
"The man who hates and divorces his wife," says the LORD, the God of Israel, "does violence to the one he should protect," says the LORD Almighty. So be on your guard, and do not be unfaithful.
Thank you for your comment! If God doesn’t support polygyny, then why tell the men of Israel that it was okay for them to take on additional wives in Exodus 21:10, saying, “10 If he takes another wife, he must not reduce the food, clothing, or marital rights of his first wife.” Also, why tell King David that He would support him with more wives in addition to what he already had If he desired more in 2 Samuel 12:8, when He said to him, “8 I gave your master’s house to you and your master’s wives into your arms. I gave you the house of Israel and Judah, and if that was not enough, I would have given you even more.”
Genesis 2:24 is not about two individuals becoming only one individual as much as it refers to two individuals becoming one in bond and unity. This same principle is found in the one body of Christ having many members found in Romans 12:4-5.
As for Deuteronomy 17:17, the idea of a king multiplying wives is equivalent in principle as him multiplying horses, silver and gold. The idea is about excess, not multiple. If a king then can’t have multiple wives, he can’t have multiple horses or gold and silver coins. Ludicrous!
1 Timothy 3:2, is written concerning structuring a Greek congregation at Ephesus. Historically, the Greeks didn’t practice polygamy in public marriage. Therefore, Paul wasn’t addressing polygyny in this verse. Instead, he was addressing the idea of swapping wives. You see, Greeks didn’t practice monogamy like the Hebrews did. Instead, they would just leave one wife for another. Now this was a direct violation of Exodus 21:10, in that a man couldn’t be moral if he was not loyal to his first wife. The word ‘one’ in 1 Tim 3:2 is the word mias, which is more properly translated ‘first’ rather than one. If a man desires to be a Bishop, he must still be the husband of his first wife. That’s all.
On Malachi 2:16, God not only didn’t get in the way of divorce, He even command a mass divorce in Ezra 10. He permitted it in Deuteronomy 24:1-4. Then He also engaged in it in Jeremiah 3. Nevertheless, when it comes to Malachi 2:16, it’s not that God dislikes divorce, he hates when it’s done treacherously in this passage.
Hey brother I got a question for you. What is Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit and how can this be committed?
Great question! Thayer’s Lexicon defines it as: slander, detraction, speech injurious to another's good name, so in the context of Matt. 12:22-32, Yeshua was saying that the Pharisees were slandering with such speech that was injurious to the good Name of The Holy Spirit by calling Yeshua’s exorcism of the man He healed the work of Satan.
OK, so did God make a mistake giving Adam one wife. The thing people are missing is that men instituted polygamy, not God. Just because something is allowed for a time doesn't mean it's approved. There are scriptures in the old Testament proving God did not institute polygamy. Read Deuteronomy 17:17. Even those marriages back then were problematic spiritually and emotionally. Usually the man is going to be in love with one woman more than the other(s). Read about Leah and Rachel, Hannah and Penninah. And King Solomon's wives turned him away from serving the true to go pagan worship.
Thank you for commenting!
However, certainly not The Creator never makes mistakes. That’s why we can say that He surely didn’t make mistakes when He told David that “it was He (God) Who gave him the 8 wives he did” when he (David) committed adultery by sleeping with another man’s wife.
On your statement that men instituted polygamy, you gotta remember that it was Yah Himself Who commanded men to be fruitful and to multiply, and it is in polygamy alone where that can be most effectively done. One woman bearing a man one child at a time is only simple addition. However, having 3 wives giving birth around the same time, now that is multiplication.
Yah didn’t just allow polygamy for a time, Dear:
He commanded it when He told Hagar to go back to her polygamist household in Genesis 16.
He caused it as Jacob said that His children was given to Him through Rachel and Leah and their hand maids. Through which, Yah was the one Who opened and closed each of their womb’s respectively as He determined in Genesis 30:1-24; 33:1-7.
Yah chose to build the nation of Israel through Rachel and Leah, Jacob’s two wives and their bond servants, according to those in Israel in Ruth 4:11.
Again, it was Yah Who blessed David with His many wives and would have given him more if he’d only ask and not steal from another man in 2 Samuel 12:7-8.
Also, God depicted Himself as being the Husband of two wives in Jer. 3 and Ezek. 23. Also Jesus depicted Himself as a Husband coming back for 10 virgins. Showing that God is not against the concept, but that it only reflects His relationship with His people, Eph. 5:28-30.
Deuteronomy 17:17, is not a prohibition against polygamy but against a king in Israel marrying excessive wives to build alliances with foreign nations. Note the context, beginning in vs. 14 on in 17 is not just about multiplying (which is to increase excessively in Hebrew) women, it is also about not multiplying horses, pieces of silver or gold. Now, is Yah really say that a king couldn’t be rich or have a lot of horses? No, He’s talking about excess. He wants Israel’s king to trust in Him alone and not in resources. Resources that would include marrying pagan wives to make the nation stronger.
Talk about problematic, there is nothing more so in humanity like how all the sin in the world today began with a monogamous household (Adam and Eve): the first sin, murder, fear, doubt, lie, death, etc.
Solomon’s wives turned him, not because they were plenty, but because they were foreign idolaters. However, David on the other hand had many wives, but his heart didn’t get turned. Go check out 1 Kings 11:1-6.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen You say all of that, so why didn't God give Adam multiple wives right from the beginning? My question was that God gets it right the very first time. But his son Jesus at Matthew 19:3-9 Jesus say the "two shall become one flesh", not three. Also, The Apostle Paul at 1Corinthians 7 says that each should have his own WIFE. (not wives).
If you read each account in the bible where there were polygamous unions, there was ALWAYS A PROBLEM: Abraham, Sarah and Hagar: Jacob, Rachel and Leah: Elkanah, Hannah and Penninah. These things were written for our instruction states Romans 15:4.
I've found too many scriptures in the bible that does NOT agree with polygamy. Now, you men can try and spin this polygamy thing as a way of trying to get more $ex from more women all you want, but good luck with that, because there's a growing number of women these days opting out of marriage and childbirth. With that, I don't know easy it will be to find one, let alone three. Y'all ain't supermen. God knows better than any human states Isaiah 55:8-9.
I am a practicing Christian woman, who recently began studying this subject. One must be able to put away ego and discern what is scriptural vs. cultural. Culture has a very strong impact or hold on our thinking, and this new feminist movement is destructive in ways that are multifaceted. God makes it clear that nothing , and I do mean nothing in this earth was created for the abuse of man. By man, I mean mankind. We are not to abuse the earth or each other. Having said that, if a man and his wives have the right heart toward God, polygyny works out fine. In the American culture, truth be told, we are conditioned to be selfish, self-absorbed, excel at all costs, worship money, power, status, titles and fame. I have read through scripture as it relates to this subject and with the help of the Holy Spirit, came to the realization that a man having multiple wives is NOT a sin in God's eyes, although scripture may warn that it is not ideal in all circumstances. Us women take issue with this because of what we've been taught, pressures related to cultural norms, insecurities, competitiveness and just not really understanding the heart of God. There is my humble opinion brothers and sisters. Thanks for this great video, brother. Blessings.
Sister thank you for your insight on this matter. I'm a married man whose been married for 11years now, when I bring this subject up with my beautiful wife she gets sick to the core, I show her the scriptures and she agrees that its not sin,but she's just battling to share she claims she loves me too much to share me with somebody else.maybe give me some advice because I'm a polygamist at heart.
Thank you so kindly for your encouraging perspective! Every time I receive comments from, especially, women on this topic I am reassured and motivated about sharing this message all the more. I pray that many more sisters would arrive at and embrace your insight attained. Yes, unfortunately, many are selfishly self absorbed and as a result, as Jesus put it, “whatever knowledge they may think they have on this will be taken from them,” Luke 8:16-18. God Bless you, and certainly you’re welcome!
@@sbonelozuma1363 oooh brother, that's a hard one. Whew! First thing that comes to mind is, ask God to change her heart and in the meantime just love on her like no tomorrow. You have to have compassionate for her. She has had you all to herself. Making love is such an intimate act and you will be sharing that with another woman. Also, was this discussed prior to getting married? Put yourself in her shoes. I think that level of comfort will have to come from God. If it is God's will He will make a way. It sounds like she is a lovely woman. I wish you both the best. I hope it works out. I think most men are polygamous at heart. With that comes great pressure and responsibilities.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen ❤
Great suggestion Sis! Well said!
This is the type of question you really want to ask Jesus face to face imo 😂
Thanks for your comment, but what is that question? Not grasping you. Sorry!
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Whether polygyny is truly right or wrong? I mean Matthew 5:28 also says this: "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."
Now I guess you could say that only applies to married women, but I don't know if this is as clear as you made it out to be. We also know that having too many wives could lead to a mess. The best example is Solomon and he is worshipped by satanists for a reason as their motto is "do as thou wilt"...
@@virtuosyc Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying your question?
Okay, think about it. Did not Jesus already answer this very same question you ask about when in the verses prior, in Matt. 5:17-20, He established that whatever the law says or teaches to those listening to Him that day who were all listening to the very same sermon (the famous sermon on the mount) in verses 27-30. Now what Jesus was teaching was nothing different than from what Moses taught in the law. In Matthew 5, He was only expounding upon it further to show how far it reaches. Therefore, His view on marriage was always in line with Moses. He was teaching that the law truly taught that the guilt of a man and penetrated even his heart, prior to him physically carrying out any sin when He said, “Whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”
Okay now since we’ve established that point, let’s now look into what Moses said what lust is to prove even further what Jesus meant that day. Three commandments after the seventh (You shall not commit adultery), Moses wrote the tenth in vs 17, saying, “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.” Notice here covetousness, which is the same NT term known as lust, has to do with looking onto whatever belongs to your neighbor’s possessions and desiring it for yourself, so what difference is there, Virtuousyc, from what Jesus was talking about concerning adultery in Matthew? Coveting/lusting has always been about desiring that which belongs to someone else, so why does this term now get changed all of a sudden when we get to the NT, or modern thinking? Think about it, Jesus was an Israelite teaching other Israelites the full extent of what Israelite doctrine has already always meant. That’s all.
So now, what does this same doctrine/teaching/body of law of Moses, Jesus is teaching on in Matt. 5, has to say concerning looking at the beauty of and desiring a woman who is not spoken for in Scripture? Well in Deuteronomy 21:10-14, it reads, “10 When you go out to war against your enemies, and the Lord your God delivers them into your hand, and you take them captive, 11 and you see among the captives a beautiful woman, and desire her and would take her for your wife, 12 then you shall bring her home to your house, and she shall shave her head and trim her nails. 13 She shall put off the clothes of her captivity, remain in your house, and mourn her father and her mother a full month; after that you may go in to her and be her husband, and she shall be your wife. 14 And it shall be, if you have no delight in her, then you shall set her free, but you certainly shall not sell her for money; you shall not treat her brutally, because you have humbled her.” You see, in this example, a man can look at a woman who is single, desire her beauty, want her for himself, make her his wife and this not be considered the coveting/lusting on his part that Jesus was teaching against. Remember, even God Himself brought single Eve unto Adam so he would desire for himself what he seen, did He not? For there is nothing wrong with desiring a woman for oneself, providing she does not already belong to someone else. I mean, I think one need not ask Jesus about this one here, because He has already made it clear that His teachings are only aligned with Moses’ on what lust is.
Hopefully, I make myself clear here!
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Thank you for elaborating. I'm not sure we will get closure on this and to me personally, it doesn't really matter. I mean it's an interesting topic but we already face so many problems in this corrupt world, I'm pretty sure most men won't even get to consider this part in their lifetime. The men who had polygenous relationships were usually wealthy or kings. I think one should earnestly consider becoming a solid provider before moving on and that's impossible for most people when trying to maintain a completely clean "Christian lifestyle".
I think the quote from Deuteronomy can be viewed in a different context. God basically assigned Israel to cleanse pagan tribes and usually, they would fight against their men. Of course, their women could be spared but the timeline and circumstance are extremely different compared to today.
The way you describe "lust" is interesting. So if I understand correctly, it's more of an action than just a thought? I think lust can already be a thought. Men can lust after women without even touching her. And now I'm honestly curious what you think about watching porn or maybe just looking at naked women? Is that not also a sin?
Sometimes we can look at the fruit of said issue and I think it becomes pretty clear that it causes more harm to have many women fight over one man. Or other men becoming jealous over the many women. Shouldn't the birthrate of women be higher if you think every man should have more than one wife? And if that's not the case, how do you think men are proven worthy to obtain more wives? You see, it's as if God wants us to fight over women or something.
But I'll admit that this point may not be just bad. In a way, it could make men more competitive and ambitious to become an alpha Chad father figure. I'm honestly getting really sick of all these simps throwing their money at some female streamer or Vtuber. We live in an age of *male* cuckolding and that is truly disgusting to watch. I'd honestly rather live in a society that accepts polygyny, than this cringe shitshow, which tries to make beta fruitcakes out of strong men.
@@virtuosyc Actually, I think our thoughts are more aligned than it appears. I most certainly appreciate how you reason!
To your point that “most men are not able to or won’t engage in polygyny due to not being wealthy nor are kings today and that it would somehow cause even more problems in the world,” I say to the contrary. Polygyny would not only stimulate the financial inadequacies most men face, it will also be a viable solution to the simping and cuckolding that’s going on. I mean, not only has God cursed man with having to work hard, “by the sweat of his brow,” but there are also false religions, political policies and cultural barriers since then that impede men from exercising the dominion He intended over women in Genesis 1:28, 3:16 and in Ephesians 5:22-24. An example of this is first seen in Scripture where the Egyptians used economic warfare against Israel to enslave, enforce population control by killing their newborn males. Now why did they do this? Because Israel only grew exponentially, due to their population growth while in Egypt (see Exodus 1). Obviously they saw Israel’s growth as a legitimate threat. For it has been pointed out that the Israelites actually practiced polygyny while in Egyptian bondage. This can be proven by looking at Numbers 2:32 & 3:42-43 where there were 603,550 men that came out of Egypt in the Exodus, which included 22,273 first born males. Now if we divide that first born males figure into the total male population, that equates that there were an average 27 males per household. And if these households represented, say, about the same amount of females born into them as males, then that equates to a whopping 54 children per home. Now that gives us a lot to consider! Virtuousyc, what I’m pointing out here is that there would likely have been at least 5-10 wives to each family man coming out of bondage. And also remember, there was an extreme shortage of Israelite men to women from Moses’ generation, up until this point, because of the extinction of Hebrew male babies. Not only was polygyny a recipe for extreme population growth even in the state of slavery, it remedied the shortage of men to women gap that existed.
Think about it. Even here in the US, if a man, say, makes $100k a year and has 3 wives, each making the same, his household income would then be at $400k. Now how much can be done in the right economy with that amount per household? So then it is also not true that a man has to be a king or wealthy to be a polygynist today. He just needs the potential to provide, which is why marriage is an economy in itself. Another reason conquering nations seek to first disrupt the normal relationship between men in women upon wherever they conquer. Which is also what took place during the Trans-Atlantic Slave-trade. Men and women were captured and quickly separated to prevent any uprisings, revolts and escapes in the dungeons and on the merchant ships.
On the quote from Deuteronomy 21, your point is taken, but be sure to not miss, and I cannot over emphasize, the fact that the men back then were being permitted in vs. 11 & 12 by God, saying, “(When)….you see among the captives a beautiful woman, and desire her and would take her for your wife, then you shall bring her home to your house….” The whole idea here is that God takes no issue with a man desiring the “beauty” of a single woman.
On my description of lust, I am in total agreement with you that it is more of a thought than an outward action. That’s why I would say that porn is certainly a sin. A man can look upon a woman and yet innocently admire her beauty without ever lusting her in a sexual way. Something porn otherwise promotes, which is the fantasizing of a woman in a sexual way. Plus sex between partners is not intended by God to be openly on display, which is what Paul calls orgies in Galatians 5:21. Also, there’s inappropriate acts that are done in porn that are defiling.
On jealousy, remember Paul also listed it among the works of the flesh in Galatians 5:19-21. Therefore a true believer should not be under the operation and control of ungodly jealousy. A jealousy that is always in contradiction to truth.
On the birth rate, almost every nation in the world women out populate men. Go check it out. Which is why prescriptive monogamy mathematically works against many women. For in it, where a man can only have one woman at a time, what happens if all the men are taken? There’ll be many women that’ll never get the chance to be taken off the market.
On men proven worthy, here in within a prescriptive monogamy context, men by default are not encouraged to become better quality men, because it sells the idea that a man can only have one at a time. With such a system, men are then encouraged to be womanizers and exploit women for sex, because commitment comes at a very high price with divorce, and a legal system that tends to favor women. Therefore, men elect to opt out of commitment and just play the field. However, God does not want us to fight over women. Only to become better men, which is why polygyny rewards women with better quality of men.
I know this was long winded, which only means I am enjoying the exchange!
My friend, the bible also states that it is a disgrace for men to wear long hair. You are the glory of God. Do the right thing.
Was it a disgrace for Samson?
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Samson was a Nazarite. An angel of God appeared to a barren woman and said she will bear a son and no razor would come upon his head.
The only reason Samson was not to cut his hair was because that was a commandment to his mother from God. Samsons hair was eventually cut, yet through his faith in God he retained his strength.
He was used by God to shew unto us his divine wisdom - the culmination of said story being that a man should not give his strength over to a woman and allow her to let him trangress Gods law.
Samson was called by God to execute his judgement. His strength was not truly in his hair, but in his willingness to obey the commandments of God
How do you reconcile your long hair with Corinthians?
BaitLeicester Live just as Samson’s strength was not actually in his hair but his obedience, as you say, is where I get my liberty to wear long hair. Although I do not profess to be a Nazarite, I am no more disgracing myself as Samson nor any man that pledged the Nazarite vow. As Paul used the word nature (Greek - physis) 1 Corinthians, this word doesn’t necessarily mean nature in the literal sense. Meaning, according the universal custom of his day (under Roman Imperialism), it was considered Barbaric for a man to wear long hair. Therefore, Paul was using his culture to illustrate his point where a Corinthian congregation would grasp it. This is no different than with Jesus using the illustration of a Bridegroom coming for 10 virgins in Matthew 25. An illustration universal to his disciples to demonstrate the likeness of His return. However, Paul uses the natural custom of his day to make the case that a woman’s glory is in her hair and not a man’s. However, faith in Christ appeals to all nations, which means that there are more customs that actually exist beyond Rome. This is why I initially responded with the Nazarite principle, making the point that God isn’t against men with long hair.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen come to think of it your response makes perfect sense - a woman’s glory is in her covering and ‘shame’ or submission to the proper use of a woman (for her husband), whereas a mans glory is not in his hair but in his submission to the will of God. I hereby retract my statement. I apologise. I do feel though that cutting hair is a sign of submission to Gods will. I used to wear long hair but now regard it somewhat as vanity. Based on your comment though I no longer see it as shameful and it definitely isn’t sinful. Let God judge it and let God be true and every man a liar.
BaitLeicester Live thank you my Brother for your honest humility! You are truly a man of God for doing so! However, I too wrestled with this idea before growing my hair back in 2015. Albeit, with just a little deeper dig, I then saw no issue with as far as sin is concerned. Many Blessings to you for making me sharper!
This teaching is very common among cults. Be careful folks.
Thanks for your comment! However, would you also dare say Israel of the OT and NT is one of those cults as well? Since they not only practiced it, they thrived in it!
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Yes I definitely agree but I actually think every religion is a cult (some are just worse than others). Case studies have proven over and over again that the negative impacts polygamy on both individuals and society are profound. Women and children being the ones who suffer most.
chloe mueller and in those case studies you speak of, is it polygyny altogether or is it the specific cults in how they have practiced polygyny that has caused these negative impacts? What specific case studies are you referring to? I’d love to know.
Amen 🙏🏽. You are 💯 right. My newest comment on this video explains why this is not God's intended way.
So by your logic...slavery is okay...Moses didn't speak about it in a negative way...he even makes provisions and gives rights to the slave...so slavery is all good. Yes?
Thanks for your query! Yes indeed. I certainly agree with Slavery/Bond-Servitude within a Biblical context and framework, or else I would be in direct contradiction to the God of Scripture.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen So you see the word as infallible? Do you ever feel that you can challenge the practices that you see in scripture...or do you understand them as happening within that specific context and today's world being a different context? Or would you say that slavery is also okay today, for example? I'm just wondering if you see context as part of your process of interpretation...your hermeneutic...or do you find what you read in scripture to be right always on all levels devoid of context?
@@Dondeez these are excellent questions! Most certainly, the Word to me is infallible which is why I do not challenge any practice contained within it. Particularly, any sanctioned, prescribed or permitted by God, which is why Paul taught believers in Romans 15:4, “For whatever things were written before were written for our learning, that we through the patience and comfort of the Scriptures might have hope.” We learn its lessons and put into practice to become and live more like Christ. Now although I do recognize that Scripture must be taken and understood within its intended specific context, I also see that there are principles that are timeless and transcend all cultural barriers. For instance, although western culture, today, so called, “loathes the practice,” slavery is yet practiced under certain circumstances. Like when it comes prison today, most believers take no issue with either enforcing inmates to work for ‘pennies on a dollar,’ or for free, ie. a modern day form of slavery which was also practiced within Bible days (Luke 12:57-59; Matthew 18:21-25). Most take no issue today with an enforced child support system where a ‘dead beat’ is forced to go to work to pay into his or her parental responsibilities. In other words, what I’m saying here is that although many may find slavery reprehensible, under certain situations, it is otherwise accepted. Now as for slavery practiced in Biblical times, there were different ways one could be enslaved, via through war, debt, crime, etc., nevertheless it was a system which had the very principles found and acceptable today. Therefore, although I do consider context as part of my process of hermeneutics, I do believe Scripture as being right on all levels. You see, it is the churches duty to shape the world and society today, and not the other way around. For Christ’s body is “the pillar of truth” in a dying world (1 Tim. 3:15; Matt. 5:13-16; 16:18-19; 1 John 2:15-17). Therefore, it should never conform to the patterns of the world (Romans 12:1-2; Eph. 4:17-24; 5:1-2) but only the image of God. I don’t care what cultural change society may make, the believer must never waiver.
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Jesus was killed for questioning the text. Maybe cause it was corrupted
Deuteronomy 17:17 Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold
What does the word multiply in this passage mean is what you must answer in order to properly interpret itself. For the word multiply here not only refers to wives, it is also used in reference to silver and gold also, so if it happens to mean that a king couldn’t add more wives at all, then that would mean he couldn’t add to his money.
It means exactly how it sounds. Don't multiply your wives or riches. Riches it specifically says greatly not that you can't at all. It's a warning against greed. The bible describes many examples of polygamy threw out it's texts. However that doesn't mean God was fine with it. In almost every example I can think of there was always consequences that came from it happening. There are other verses that specify one man and one woman. I can post more if you like.
@@paragon1172000 Correct, so you cannot use Deuteronomy 17 then to say that polygyny isn’t Biblically allowed, just as you would not be able to correctly say that it wouldn’t be okay to have more than one piece of gold, silver or even a horse, according to vs. 16. The word multiply in Hebrew here means - to be or become much, many or great, according to Strong’s. In other words, Moses was not saying that a king could not have more than one wife, at all. No he was saying that he could not have an excessive amount of wives. As far as there being negative examples, you say, surrounding polygyny, please send me at least one and do explain how it somehow shows that polygyny is wrong. Also, the fact that you have to try to now prove something’s wrong with polygyny, aside from Deuteronomy 17:17, shows that you’re “reaching.” You’re reaching here, because the Bible is not against polygyny. It is rather that you have been taught by Greek, Roman Catholic and Protestant cultures to reject it. None of the prophets or apostles ever spoke against it. If they did, please show chapter and verse.
1 Timothy 3:12 Let the Deacons be the husbands of one wife ruling their children and their own houses well. Genesis 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cling unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
As to examples of negative results of polygamy. Esau married two women and they made problems for Isaac and Rebekah. Jacob's polygamy led to events that eventually ended up in the enslavement of Israel. David had multiple wives which never seemed to satisfy him so he set up events to kill another man to take his wife. All these men are good examples of faith but not morality.
Now you are free to say I'm reaching with these verses but I am just giving you examples of where the text tells you one man and one wife. Deuteronomy's was mainly directed at the king because mainly only rulers could fund more than one wife. Scholars have been debating the translation and meaning for a long time and still will. I am just simply providing the examples.
@@paragon1172000 sorry for just getting back to you!
Once again, however, the problem here is with your corrupted western theology. You are defending a position with arguments that do not aline with Biblical truth.
On 1 Timothy 3:12, it is likely mistranslated in our English translations. For it was translated during the time near the Council of Trent in 1563 when the Catholic Church imposed its doctrines on marriage that are not consistent with what was already revealed Scripture. They did this because they considered the pope and the college of bishops as being on par with creating or being able to add to Scripture. However, the word Paul used that mistranslated as the word “one” in verse 12 of 1 Timothy 3 was the Greek word “mias,” which primarily means “first,” in most passages. Now another word for “one” in 1st century Greek is “heis.” However, he did not use the word “heis” which would’ve better conveyed the meaning that a Deacon only one wife, instead he used “mias” which is more likely means that some Deacons had multiple wives back then. Meaning, being faithful to their “first” wife implies that some Deacons had more than “one.” Now could this be why the NIV and NLT each translated this phrase, saying, “A deacon must be faithful to his wife.”
Also, there are several more reasons to believe he was conveying the meaning of a Deacon being “faithful to his first wife” rather than saying, he was to “only have one wife.” First, it is the fact that Paul wrote this letter concerning putting non-Hebrew Greeks into leadership in the church at Ephesus, and if you know anything about Greek history, you would know that the Greeks did not practice polygamy, in public marriage, so to presume that Paul was somehow forbidding a practice and lifestyle they did not live then, in the first place, that would be irrelevant to his audience.
Second, it is more likely Paul agreed more with Moses and God than with the papacy. For Moses wrote that God commanded in Exodus 21:10-11 that a man could have an additional wife as long as he faithfully provided for his “first” wife as well. In other words, Brother, God has always been okay with a man having multiple wives as long as he remains faithful to each of them. For this is a why God said to David that “He (God) gave David his multiple wives” in 2 Samuel 12:7-8, “and if that was not enough, He (God) would have given David more.” Therefore, in David’s case, there was no need for him to take another man’s wife and then kill him.
And third, now before you begin to think that Moses was in the Old Testament, while Paul was in the New and was somehow speaking a doctrine that was different from that of the Old Testament, check out this. Jesus said that He did not come to change the law, but to fulfill it in Matt. 5:17-20. Paul also taught in Romans 3:31 that as New Testament believers, we too are not to change the law, but to fulfill it, which simply means to do what it says. Furthermore Paul also taught that the lifestyles of those in the Old Testament was written so that we can learn from it and have hope, which would include a lifestyle of Polygamy among everything else in Romans 15:4. Therefore, 1 Timothy 3:12 in no way is a doctrine against polygamy but rather an agreement that its lifestyle continued within the NT.
On Genesis 2:24, there are two words you may be misinterpreting. They are the words “cling” and “one.” To “cling” is to cleave or keep close. Meaning, a man who marries must “keep his wife close,” which says nothing against polygamy, because remember, polygamy is about adding wives, not putting them away. Now as for the word “one,” a better understanding of this word is to know that in the Hebrew, it is the word “echad,” which is an adjective. A word that is descriptive rather than a word that is a noun (flesh). For it describes what man and woman becomes when they “echad” with one another. They become united. Not that they somehow become no longer 2 individuals. Instead, they become 2 individuals who become “one (united)” in one purposed life, together.
Now we know this because Paul interpreted this same passage as two people becoming united as “one” when they have sex. For sex is intended to complete a union whereby 2 individuals should be on the same path together (Amos 3:3). A principle seen even in the sexual intercourse with a prostitute, in 1 Corinthians 6:15-17, Paul said creates such oneness (unity).
As for your examples:
On Esau, in what verse do you get that Esau made problems for his parents, and was his problem due to polygamy or was it due to the type of women he married (Genesis 28:6-9)?
On Jacob’s polygamy, you say it led to Israel’s enslavement, but in Exodus 1:1-14, Israel was forced into slavery out of being blessed and fulfilling God’s command to mankind given in Genesis 1:28. For they were feared and despised for only being obedient and prospering.
On David, according to God Himself, the issue with him was not that the wives he had were not enough, because God said it Himself, “if that wasn’t enough that he would have given David more,” because God was the giver of David’s polygamy, 2 Samuel 12:7-8. However, David’s issue was desiring and taking another man’s wife.
Now “all of these could not have been good examples of Faith,” as you say, if they were “morally wrong” at the same time, because James taught that true faith produces good (moral) works, for without them, faith is dead (James 2:8-17).
Now unlike yourself, Jacob, God and the elders in Jerusalem all thought that polygamy made Israel into a great nation and blessed (Genesis 33:1-7; Ruth 4:11). Any problems you see with polygamous families, in Scripture, happened much more in monogamous families. I mean, if you just consider the first family which was monogamous, they were the first cause of all sin, deception, fear, envy, murder and idolatry in the world. For it was a monogamous family make that led to all the ills we see today.
On Deuteronomy 17, this passage is more than just mainly about kings, it specifically speaks concerning kings, because God wanted kings to only trust in Him and not trade Egypt for horses to build armies, trust in riches and not make ungodly alliances with pagan nations by marrying their daughters. For that is the historical custom and context of Deuteronomy 17:14-20.
a Christian said Moises was teaching people wrong by saying you can marry another wife that that's why he broke the ten commandments and God punished him because he was mad that he teached them wrong and saw them all doing that iam confused can you explain ?
+Francisco Lugo Smh, there’s no way anyone could be a true Christian, a follower of Christ, and not revere the teachings of Moses. For Christ said, “17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:17-19)
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen bro seriously that wat he told me he made me felt like a perv wolf 😔 I was shocked and got instantly worryed I felt the adulter spirit telling me and showing me like it was God that my wife's that Iam praying for that I love so much will cheat on me this had tormented me my dear brother i felt like he a sick person going to church bro people like him the whole opposite on how I feel about you wen you preach the gospel please keep us in prayers when need protection from these people's they like to close doors from us even In churches 🙏♥️😇. Jesus coming soon amen ⌚👀
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Owning slaves is good and godly then as well
Nikki Burton most certainly. Not only were they owned by OT believers, they were owned by NT believers as well. Go look at the book of Philemon. The issue is not the institution of slavery, it’s a problem with what we’re familiar with concerning the Western Trans-Atlantic slave trade where Africans were dehumanized. However, Hebraic slavery is governed under godly laws.
Savanna St. Laurent thanks for your comment! Deuteronomy 22:25, NKJV, says, ““But if a man finds a betrothed young woman in the countryside, and the man forces her and lies with her, then only the man who lay with her shall die.” Also, in vs. 28-29, “28 “If a man finds a young woman who is a virgin, who is not betrothed, and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are found out, 29 then the man who lay with her shall give to the young woman’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife because he has humbled her; he shall not be permitted to divorce her all his days.” Whether a woman is married or single, rape is not Biblically permitted, so no, I do condone rape...
Savanna St. Laurent why yes, the victim does receive compensation under this judgment of God. The ultimate victim in these cases are the husband of the betrothed woman and the father of the single virgin. You see, in western culture, a woman is assumed independent of the man and so she fends for herself, with no covering. However, in God, she is the protected property of the man. In 1 Corinthians 11:3 & vs. 7-9, it says, “3But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God....7For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8For man is not from woman, but woman from man. 9Nor was man created for the woman, but woman for the man.” She was created for the man’s use and not the other way around. Therefore, when she is violated, it is ultimately an affront to the man just as for one to sin against any otter human being, it is to sin against God.
I meant to say that I do not condone rape....
The bible was rewritten. God hates slavery
Yeah! Let’s go back to doing all the things that landed the Israelite into captivity. Skip Genesis 2:24. The Israelites always wanted to do the things that other nations around them did. God’s permissive will allowed polygyny just like he allow kings. There had to be rules assigned because it was culturally accepted among the saints in the Old Testament. The Bible is a guide for living.
According to Apostle Paul, “one man and one woman” is marriage. I believe that this is because of cultural changes and norms during those times and to prevent the progressively sinful situations among the Israelites. Rich men had the wives which caused problems with unmarried men that tried to obtain wealth to attract a wife. This is another reason men were not to have sex with others wives. This may also be why Jesus didn’t completely destroy women that prostituted during those times.
1Corinthians 7:2 But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband. Not shared. This is indicated by “own” in my opinion.
The Bible documents a history of a diminished people that progressively fell deeper into sin and separation from God leading to their captivity multiple times. God gave them multiple wives out of love and compassion for their spoken desires, yet they continued to sin against him even in the wives they chose. Solomon married foreign wives against God’s will and accepted their gods. There is a documented history of men in the Bible that sinned, yet God loved them and listened to their prayers. How many lies must men tell to keep multiple women?
Last I checked, Proverbs 6:16-19 There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.
Because God’s people are now reading and educating themselves, they are valuing things that lead to sin instead of learning from it. A survival tactic for families is now being brought into the mainstream as an acceptable way to live and satisfy the flesh.
Mind you, we are in the last days where sin is boiling over. I must say this, I feel (and know) that God is faithful to forgive. He will forgive his wayward people. But, He will not withhold punishments for their sin or things that they do that cause others around them to sin.
Proverbs 31 Woman, thanks for the in-depth comment! Okay I will address your points you made one by one:
(1) On Israel doing things that landed them into captivity:
Unfortunately, your history is off, because Israel didn’t engage in polygyny by following other nations. First, it was already established in the practice of polygyny, because long before, Jacob (Israel) was blessed to produce a great nation of 12 tribes through 4 wives, God enabled him to have. (Gen. 29-30; Psalm 127:3) Second, beyond being culturally acceptable, God nevertheless chose polygyny through not only Isaac descendants, but through Abraham’s other children by his other wife Keturah and concubines he blessed before dying. (Genesis 25:1-5) And third, as I laid out in my video, God populated Israel through polygyny to a million plus by the time He delivered them out of slavery in Egypt. For each family coming out of slavery averaged at least 27 sons, so that means Israelite men averaged having at least 10-20 wives (study Numbers 2:32; 3). Therefore, the Bible not only guided and regulated these people in what they were already practicing polygyny, it also reveals how God blessed and empowered them through its practice.
(2) On Paul stating that “one man and one woman” is marriage. Let me ask you this, Where exactly in Scripture does Paul say that marriage has to be between one man and one woman only? Also, please show me where in Scripture does it say that the Biblical culture of polygyny has changed and that it is not just what you want to believe?
(3) On your opinion about “own” in 1 Corinthians 7:2. In just a little deeper dig, you would’ve realized that this particular vs. actually proves otherwise that Paul was not against polygyny. The translated word in this vs. for ‘His own’ in Greek is - ‘heatou,’ which means something owned exclusively by him and no one else. While ‘Her own’ in Greek is - ‘idios,’ means that she could have a shared ownership of him making her peculiar to him, but not the other way around. So Paul used these two distinct terms to show that his teaching was still in line with Old Testament Law and practices. However, as far as cultural changes within Israelite marriage practices are concerned, understand also that 1 Corinthians 7:2 was written to a predominate Greek congregation where public polygyny was not accepted within that culture. Therefore, there wasn’t any change in Scripture or Hebrew culture here, but rather over the near centuries to come, the Greco-Roman Empire began to impose their position of “Prescriptive Monogamy” onto their colonies. Proving that whatever cultural change that occurred, it was not due to any Biblical or Holy reason but pagan idolatrous influences. For the Greeks and Romans both practiced “Prescriptive Monogamy,” because they observed Hera/Juno the goddess of jealousy and monogamy only marriage.
(4) On your point that the Bible documents a history of a diminished people, the problem you run into here is your attempt to connect the sins of Israel and their many falls in the OT with their practice of polygyny, but make no effort to produce proof that polygyny is a sin. You see, 1 John 3:4 teaches that sin is a violation of God’s laws. By conflating things we may not like with other sins of a people and then call what we’re conflating a sin is only a meaningless attempt to find guilt by association. Just because you associate Israel’s many falls with polygyny, you still have to show where the Bible states clearly that polygyny is a sin.
(5) On you connecting polygyny with Proverbs 6:16-19, again you must demonstrate how any of the sins listed in that passage involves the Biblical lifestyle of polygyny.
Finally, whatever else you’ve stated, it demands you, once again, show at least one Bible vs. that clearly depicts polygyny a sin, Old or New Testament. Not what you or this modern culture may want it to say. Thanks again!
Genesis 2:24: "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."
Ephesians 5:25-33: "Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish. In the same way husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ does the church.
Titus 2:5, KJV “To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.”
New Testament
1Corinthians 7:33 But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world-how he can please his wife
1 Timothy 3:2-5 Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. 4 He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full[1] respect. 5 (If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God's church?)
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"they can't handle their own children"
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something that belongs to the person or thing mentioned.
"your life is your own"
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1. have (something) as one's own; possess.
"his father owns a restaurant"
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admit or acknowledge that something is the case or that one feels a certain way.
"she owned to a feeling of profound jealousy"
We are under grace through Christ Jesus and what he did on the cross. God bless you!
Proverbs31 Woman I’m not sure why you sent all these passages, because you didn’t elaborate on why you did. The word own was translated from the Greek language the Bible was written in, so to be accurate, you need to refer to the its Greek definition in these passages. Or else, misdefining the text.
Studies say that women aren't as happy in polygamous marriages as in monogamous marriages. This shows me, that being monogamous is better, even if it may be allowed.
Please add links to these studies. I’d love to see which ones you have referring to.
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Thank you for your polite answer. I'm glad these studies interest you.
Al-Krenawi A. A study of psychological symptoms, family function, marital and life satisfactions of polygamous and monogamous women: The Palestinian case. International Journal of Social Psychiatry. 2012;58(1):79-86. doi:10.1177/0020764010387063 T
Al-Krenawi A. Mental health and polygamy: The Syrian case. World J Psychiatry. 2013 Mar 22;3(1):1-7. doi: 10.5498/wjp.v3.i1.1 Titel anhand dieser DOI in Citavi-Projekt übernehmen. PMID: 24175180 Titel anhand dieser Pubmed-ID in Citavi-Projekt übernehmen; PMCID: PMC3782180.
Shaiful Bahari I, Norhayati MN, Nik Hazlina NH, Mohamad Shahirul Aiman CAA, Nik Muhammad Arif NA. Psychological impact of polygamous marriage on women and children: a systematic review and meta-analysis. BMC Pregnancy Childbirth. 2021 Dec 13;21(1):823. doi: 10.1186/s12884-021-04301-7. PMID: 34903212; PMCID: PMC8667458
Sabila Naseer, Beenish Mubeen, and Ayesha Farooq. 2021. “Staying Into Religious Boundaries and Bearing Polygamy: Understanding Jealousy, Marital Satisfaction, and Mental Health Among Muslim Women”. Al-Qamar 4 (3):41-56. doi.org/10.53762/alqamar.04.03.e03
Mengistu N, Shumye S, Tesfaye TS, Haile S, Bayisa Y, Yimer S, Tadesse M, Markos T, Madoro D, Assefa DG, Molla W, Abebe L, Molla A, Wudneh A, Duko B. Stressful life experience of the first married women in polygamous families in Gedeo zone, South Ethiopia: a qualitative study, 2021. BMC Psychol. 2022 Feb 22;10(1):40. doi: 10.1186/s40359-022-00753-4 Titel anhand dieser DOI in Citavi-Projekt übernehmen. Erratum in: BMC Psychol. 2022 Aug 2;10(1):191. PMID: 35193677 Titel anhand dieser Pubmed-ID in Citavi-Projekt übernehmen; PMCID: PMC8864848.
Shepard, L. (2013). The impact of polygamy on women's mental health: A systematic review. Epidemiology and Psychiatric Sciences, 22(1), 47-62. doi:10.1017/S2045796012000121 Titel anhand dieser DOI in Citavi-Projekt übernehmen
Bove, Riley, and Claudia Valeggia. "Polygyny and women's health in sub-Saharan Africa." Social science & medicine 68.1 (2009): 21-29.
These studies are mostly made in islamic countries (except the two last ones) because polygyny is more widespread there.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen did you read them?
@@pastelqueenwudel sorry I only skimmed through them. However, I’ve heard these claims before, so I definitely will get to you.
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I always felt I should have more than one husband, the pride and ego of man needs to go!
That wouldn’t be a good thing for you anyways!!! For rejection of God’s truth is only rooted in sinful human pride and ego, btw.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen There are African tribes that use this practice as well for the benefit of family. But many men automatically disagree with this notion and prefer opposite which doesn’t make as much sense or can be attributed to “a mans world” ideology
@@jadew9177 There is a world history of both. More than one husband keeps the population steady and ensures there is enough labor to keep the crops growing and people fed. Men don't like more than one man because doesn't benefit them to share...yet they expect women to be ok with it when a lot have said they aren't.
Jade W “A man’s world” indeed. King David certainly thought so, as he wrote, “4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him? 5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour. 6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet: 7 All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field; 8 The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas. 9 O LORD our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth!” (Psalm 8) The Lord, our Lord is has made this “a man’s world,” even though many men may think opposite or reject it, the world is what the Lord made it to be. That’s why the Apostle Paul even wrote, “3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.” (1 Corinthians 11:3)
@@scorpionofmars3513 My sentiments exactly, it’s the ego/pride that fails them. Unfortunately I have noticed a pattern with men such as these in reference to physical discipline, control.
You take comfort it the old testament when Israel was sinning against God. Your opions are not the word of God, we are born into sin and God made a way for us who is both in the old and new testament...
Thank you for your comment! However, let me get this straight. You say “I take comfort in the OT when Israel was sinning….” Then you say “God made a way for us who is both in the old and testament.” Please tell me what is wrong with taking comfort in the OT if God make a way for those in the Old, as you say? Or did God not make a way which was spelled out in the Old Testament as well as He did in the New Testament? Which one is it? Is there a way for those of Old or not? Please tell me?
Also, as Jesus asked the woman at the well, “Where is your husband?” You say I take comfort in the OT, but even the NT you seem to take comfort in does not permit a woman to “Teach or take authority over a man.” (1 Tim. 2:11-14). Once again, “Where is your husband?” Why do you not allow a covering to speak for you? (1 Corinthians 11:8-10) Have you no shame?
He IS against it. The narrative shows NOT ONE of those men led a peaceful life. If God promised you a son would you take on the maid of your wife just to have a son sooner? Where's the trust? Where's the faith? Where's the morals!!
+PrettyBrown 856 How is God against Abraham having more than one wife when it was God Who commanded Abraham’s 2nd wife to go back to her polygamous home and submit in Genesis 16:9? If God is against it, then why did He give David his multiple wives in 2 Sam. 12:7-8?
Abraham was not told that he would have a son specifically through Sarah in Gen. 17 until after he took on his 2nd wife in Gen. 16. Although he was told he would have an heir he was never told it would come through Sarah until after the fact, so in Romans 4, when it says that Abraham believed God and staggered not according to the promise, that means he did trust and believe.
As far as morals is concerned, Abraham did nothing immoral because there is no commandment against polygyny. Plus it was his woman who suggested and gave her handmaid to her husband in Gen. 16, because women in her day were not riddled with fear as many who claim to believe in God hear in the west, see 1 Pet. 3:5-6.
i live in St Lucia Caribbean America. i agree with you 100%. and it has been in my nature and thought habits since childhood. but because i was a christian i was taught error and tried to live up to this lie of monogamy ONLY...i failed i cheated i lied to cover up...thinking i was doing the wrong thing. NOW i know and am convinced to be honest about MY Ancestors lifestyle practice but in St Lucia --Caribbean American island and also under Queen Elizabeth--polygyny is punished ...so how do i live the righteous lifestyle in a lying society. i teach i teach i teach i educate i educate i educate...if they hear they have ears to hear---if not then they suffer for accepting the lie of monogamy ONLY.
I do not think anyone was lying, polygamy was only in God's permissive will, not his perfect will. Men had multiple wives in the Bible to protect the women after their husbands dies, to continue lineage, for wisdom(Solomon), or against God. And after all of those times they found out that that was not a good thing because of feelings and drama. If polygamy was the way to go then Jesus would've died for multiple churches and it would have never said for a "man to leave his home and cling to his wife" and instead "wives". Just because it wasn't specifically condemned does not mean it is okay. That's like saying the story in the book of Judges was okay when a man looked for a concubine, waited in a building from adulterers, threw her outside to be molested, and asked her to get ready to leave only to get no response so he chopped her up limb by limb and mailed her remains out to the surrounding cities because there was no mention of good or bad by God. It is wrong and goes against the natural order.
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In your country taking a second wife is punisheable by law. However, taking a mistress is not. So you can make religious ceremony and take the vows with a second wife without having to register the marriage legally.
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So you are arguing the same things the pharisee did when they scolded Jesus and His disciples for not cleansing their hands before they eat. You shouldn't name the tradition made by men and call it God's.
"And after all of those times they found out that that was not a good thing because of feelings and drama" Who? Where? Proof? Was it the Catholics of Venice who decided on this? The same ones who placed Galileo Galilei in prison for supporting Heliocentrism?
And the fact that Jesus only had one wife did not mean that he was against polygyny, so that's a logical fallacy. And guess what? Polygyny was specifically prohibited, only to the Leviticus priests and kings of new jewish lands (Deut. 17:17). If polygyny is forbidden to all men, then these laws wouldn't be made in the first place. Prescriptive monogamy is wrong, because if it isn't, then it would've been stated so in the Bible. But look what happened, ignorants decided to make cultural practices that aren't commanded by God and then call it "God's Law", based on their own assumption that God would agree. Disgusting.
And polygyny created the 12 tribes, and a lot of miracles are born because of it. So the natural order you speak of is false.
Are you SERIOUS??
Then why was adam and eve made as one man and one woman.
Question to think 🤔 of in light of what you’re asking, which is a good one btw, does the word ‘one’ in the creation account refer to how many individuals Adam and Even became once they were married, or does it refer to them becoming one in purpose? Did the two become no longer two people in their marriage, or did they just become two individuals bound into one relational unit? Like how there could be 1,000 individuals who work in one business entity. Although they may serve one overall purpose, in no way does the 1,000 individuals lose their individuality the process.
DIGGIN' IN THE WORD - With Mike Allen smart reply becoming one means they belong to eachother not to another men it’s the head so every wife it’s from one men so they all are one marriage wow bro all I see the devil trying to use verses to make us doubt wats writting and teached
Holy Videos yes, Satan is busy in the game of thwarting accurate interpretation.
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Thanks so so much for making this so clear . This is why when we are reading the scriptures we need to ask the Holy Spirit guidance to teach us what his word truly mean. Thanks so much again my brother.
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I'm so grateful you did a video on this brother! Recently I fellowshipped with a Ministry that preaches about and for polygany. These days for most single women that want marriage, they need to start looking toward polygany with godly man that will receive her into his household. Bless you my brother! Please continue to do videos like this if you don't mind? It would be nice to have a god-centered polyganist dating app too?!🤔 Bless you💯🧡
It is you, I’m grateful for, my Sis, for your encouraging words! Although I do get many negative responses from women, it is always a blessing to be uplifted by the many who certainly “get it!” Yes I will be cranking out much more content shortly. And yes, it is full time women begin to understand that God has certainly created polygyny as a solution to cover and bless their lives and save them from an epidemic of never getting married. Particularly single mothers. Also, even though I never gave it any thought before, I will ponder your suggestion on a polygynous dating app. Very interesting! Thank you! Many Blessings 🙏🏾!
I felt this comment I my soul. It's comforting to know I'm not the only female who is feeling called to this
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Everytine discernment is given for marriage, it os monogamous. Marriage was created as monogamous. It is prohibited in the NT. It always caused friction when practiced in the OT. It was a temporary fix for accountability, just like ethics in slavery. Treating them as family and not placing them out in a world the could not adapt to. It was also a temporary means of focused evangelism. We were born free in the garden of Eden and not as slaves. God intends for neither crimes against humanity and adultery. Thatvis of Sodom.
@Isaiah Rey I'm not going to entertain your tangents. Adam had one wife and Eve had one husband. Follow Seth's lineage and then follow Cain's. Polygamy began as a deviation by a man who had killed someone. The first recorded polygamist in Scripture is not regarded favorably. Monogamy is the default as intended. In the OT, when polygamy was practiced, it was most notable among upper class and royalty. Many were political marriages, and those relationships complicated the commitments for single unions. The Apostles taught monogamous marriage and made that the standard for Church leadership. It is time to grow up and seek first the Kingdom of Heaven, rather than your petty lusts..
Can I archive this series?
+Tyler Perry most certainly! It is there for your consumption, edification and enlightenment! Thanks for your question!
Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
God’s Not Against It IF:
1 they share the same faith
2 they are all virgins and single
3 you have the "money" to support them (food, clothes and s-x)
4 its not illegal in your state or country
5 you are the only man
6 you can lead them
7 emotional IQ to deal with mothers in law, family members and friends
8 approval by the state and the authorities
9 approval and accordance with their parents (bride price)
Thanks for your contribution! However, I have a few questions on a few of items here:
•On #1, how does this requirement align with Deut. 21:10-14?
•On 2, how does this align with Deuteronomy 24:1-4; 1 Samuel 25:39-40 & God gave David Saul’s wives in 2 Samuel 12:7-8?
•On 4, how does this align with the Apostles saying whenever in the face of being prohibited by the government, we obey God over man in Acts 5:27-29; also how many believers in the Old Testament defied the laws of the land that defies God’s truth in Hebrews 11?
•Also on 9, it appears David didn’t seek parental approval according to 1 Samuel 25:39-40, or does it?
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Deut. 21:10-14 will lead to Deut. 21:18:21 high probability aka rebel son
Deuteronomy 24:1-4 is for Israel the tribe the "community" i personally don´t have it if you have a tribe there go for it
God gave David Saul’s wives in 2 Samuel 12:7-8?
yes the king can have it no problem i am not a king deut 17:17
face of being prohibited by the government, we obey God over man in Acts 5:27-29; Asw : yes specially the "main" commandments but the polygamy s not like the shabat or idolatry. Poly is a crime here and i dont want to go to jail if the law here was that a man can only marry a mam than we obey G-d rather then men you will not die or loose your faith because poly is illegal in your country there are alternatives like concubines or marry a women or Deut. 21:10-14 ukranian women for example they have judeo crhistian background
David messed up in the flesh but it looks like it went well with the father of Samuel with 2 wives i rather study and follow good examples in the flesh like that
I would strongly recommend listening to the other side of the argument to protect yourself from deception.
Thanks for your comment! And why do you assume I have not?
Why is it only men that should have multiply wives ? Can't women too have multiply partner? This is a sadistic male dominated society, the scripture has progressive revelation. Jesus said in the beginning HE made them make and female
Ever since I believed this I been getting persecuted brother wat can I do to trust Jesus words i have a lot of fear church and family it’s insulting me and watching if I do this act in a God help me brother .
Many Blessings to you, and thank you for your comment and question! I want to encourage you to know that there is comfort in the Truth of God’s Word, because He has attached promises to it. You must remind yourself of what Jesus taught concerning those who follow His Word that they will be persecuted. For persecution is a part of the process. For He comforts us in knowing that,
“10 Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake.
12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.” (Matt. 5:10-12)
Remember that any fear against trusting in and doing what He says does not come from Him. For His Word teaches,
“For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.” (2 Tim. 1:7)
We are called to endure temptation through faith and obedience, built up by meditating in His Word, being filled with His Spirit and praying for our unbelief (Mark 9:14-29; Luke 17:5; Acts 1:8; Ps 1:1-3; Rom 10:16-17; Matt 7:7-11).
Be encouraged! God will help you my Brother. Don’t allow not even family members, particularly church family to get in the way of what you’re being led to do, especially after you have prayed about it. (Mark 3:31-35; 6:1-6)
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen omg bro as I read I feel like a force of not wanted me to believe wats written but ikno jesus won for us allready I want to just hear your preaches mainly I find peace and myself here it's sad and frustrating and even distracting wen family and church member call us sinners for doing wat moises tough us but they do it all the time it's pure envy and evil but ty ama read this over and over and I play your videos alot I wanma meet you someday and serve the Lord and get those in doubts and been slave of fake churches ty my brother you haved gaved me etarnal peace And to my family knowing wat you said it's bible you will be great in heaven and ama pray for that .let's pray and watch this the end .🙏❤️😇📖
Soon ama invest in something when can preach very mighty for the lord iam praying to God he tells me how like I want to built God something for our favor in all ways so wen he comes give it to Jesus hands and say here you go my lord I did it all for you and the church 😇🌈
One last thing do some on romans 13 and how God glorify in army's cops in the goverment etc. Thanks
Holy Videos You’re welcome, and I myself can feel your desire and passion to do for God in what you find challenging. Hang in there and don’t give up. He is your strength! Yes it would be nice to meet you as well! I will pray for you!
This is a very strong argument. Monogamy was created by church leaders not the scriptures.
Jacob married two wives from the same family. It wasn't counted for him as sin. The very man after God's own heart, David, had multiple wives.
But one must ensure that one is able to take care of these women financially and is also capable of being fair and just. Islam makes that very clear. Being a Muslim does not mean you can automatically marry four wives. Thank you, brother.
You’re welcome and thank you Brother! Although I’d like to add that fairness is somewhat relative Biblically. You see, the God of Scripture does permit the practice of concubinage. Of which, there is a hierarchy among a man’s wives. Children of concubines are not mandated to be given an inheritance, while those born of free wives are.
You saying this still not gon change the fact that only people men and women who consent to this are the only people who should be doing it lmaoo
You’re on fire my guy TALK TO EM
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I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
Deuteronomy 17 : 17
And he shall not acquire many wives for himself, lest his heart turn away, nor shall he acquire for himself excessive silver and gold.
Thanks for the Scripture, but the fuller context sheds more light on what the passage says. God did not want the king to use his position for personal gain as his intent. That’s why the passage forbids he acquire excessive money and horses as well! In other words, a godly king is not to be driven by greed. However, if a king is not to have multiple wives at all, he is not to have more that one piece of silver, gold or horse, based on the context. See Deuteronomy 17:15-17, says, “15you shall surely set a king over you whom the Lord your God chooses; one from among your brethren you shall set as king over you; you may not set a foreigner over you, who is not your brother. 16But he shall not multiply horses for himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt to multiply horses, for the Lord has said to you, ‘You shall not return that way again.’ 17Neither shall he multiply wives for himself, lest his heart turn away; nor shall he greatly multiply silver and gold for himself.” To assume a king could not have more that one wife would mean he could only have one wife and be only extremely poor based on such logic.
The scripture is progressive, when Adam fell the institute of marriage fell with him, stop teaching ain and rubbish
It's definitely not God's original Design.
Matt 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
How can you prove that God never intended polygamy within His order of creation?
The truth but let's see if Israelites practice this
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I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
Good video, brother. Good breakdown.
Also, the reason that true adultery is bad is because it is rooted in deception.
Something that is very important to God and our word as well as peace.
Remember when Jesus saw Nathanael? He was pleased that there was an Israelite "in whom was no deceit."
Thanks Brother for the encouragement! Well said and most certainly true!
+TheBeerExperience360 Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
Everytine discernment is given for marriage, it os monogamous. Marriage was created as monogamous. It is prohibited in the NT. It always caused friction when practiced in the OT. It was a temporary fix for accountability, just like ethics in slavery. Treating them as family and not placing them out in a world the could not adapt to. It was also a temporary means of focused evangelism. We were born free in the garden of Eden and not as slaves. God intends for neither crimes against humanity and adultery. Thatvis of Sodom.
A man proposed to me but said he would eventually have a second wife. Although I understand it's his right I couldn't accept it. It's very hard for a woman to accept that her man loves someone else and that she won't have him all for herself. I just couldn't share so I refused. But miss him everyday.
Thanks for sharing!
Hmmm 🤔, could the fact that you miss him even though he loves someone else also show that his loving someone else should have no bearing on how he and you feel toward each other? Think about it, your reason for saying no is rooted in it being all about you and not in understanding that he has a God given right and obligation to be fruitful and multiply to the best of his ability. See Matt. 25:14-30 and Genesis 1:28 & chapter 30.
Prescriptive Monogamy, “Monogamy Only” is utterly satanic. While marriage between a man and a woman, on the other hand, is to reflect God and His relationship He has with His people, Eph. 5:22-33; Jer. 3 and Matt. 25:1-13. To be a woman that demands that she be the only one is on the level of one church member not wanting new members/people to become a part of the congregation. Another illustration would be like a couple’s first child demanding that they remain and be the one and only child the household. For these are each examples of selfish motivations. Plus these are each examples of either a pastor loving souls and wanting to add to his congregation and parents who loves their child and wants to add to their family and have more. Each are godly reasons for growth, just as a man wanting to have more wives in his family.
The selfishness of a woman demanding to be the one and only halts and retards the potential growth that a man can have otherwise in this world. Just think about all the single women out there who will never taste marriage, because most women in western culture are demanding to be the one and only. With the odds of there being only 1 man to 13 women that leaves at least 12 women without having a chance to ever marry due to the selfishness of those that have. If Jacob’s first wife was able to stop him from marrying his 3 other wives, then there would be no 12 tribes in Israel today, Ruth 4:11.
My suggestion to you my sister is, go back and submit to your man! Support his God given right and duty to be fruitful and multiply to the greatest of his capacity and not yours.
Shalom!
Jealousy is an evil thing.
There is no need to be jealous of the other wife because he loves yall both.
I think you messed up and should try to get him back.
@@Yachanan144 Agreed. Jealous is a work of the flesh and leads to sin, while polygyny is not. In fact, it is outright inappropriate for a woman to put limits on a man’s ability to produce seed, even through her personal womb.
Seriously.....how perversed! Whether or not Jacobs wife didn't force it....God would've an could've made it possible!!! Stop spreading lies
Deuteronomy 17:17, 1 Timothy 3:2 (old and new covenant) both clearly speak against polygyny.
Please read from Deuteronomy 17:14-20, this passage speaks against a king not putting his trust totally in God by trusting in his own ability to amass wealth (silver and gold), multiply horses from Egypt which sold horses and chariots for combat and multiplying wives which was what kings in the east did to form alliances. God wanted to be Israel’s king’s only monetary source, only defense and only alliance. That’s why a king was not to multiply (acquire excessively to form alliance) by taking on many wives. If a king couldn’t have multiple wives, then they couldn’t have more than one piece of gold or silver or more than one horse. That makes no sense.
As for 1 Tim. 3:2, this verse is not talking about polygamy, because it was written concerning putting Greek men into the position of pastor. The Greeks didn’t even practice polygyny in public marriage, plus the Greek word for “one” likely means “first” instead. So the passage is better translated as husband of the first wife, which was to prevent installing pastors who were not faithful to their first wife. Just as God told the men in Exodus 21:10-11. If a man takes on another wife, he must also be faithful to his first.
I'm glad I finally came across your work. I've been receiving a ton of pushback against Polygyny; when most of the men in the Bible who were married were Polygynists.
+Jules Falcone thanks for the kind words Brother! It’s crazy how most miss that point, although they stand it. Many Blessings to you!
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Thanks and many Blessings to you too.
@@julesfalcone you’re welcome and thank you Brother!
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Shalom. I would like to speak to you in private brother. I feel like maybe you could give me counsel concerning a situation that I am in. Get back to me if you are interested or feel led to counsel me.
@@servantofthelivinggod6192 Shalom! Sure. Just email me at truebiblediggers@gmail.com your number an with the best time to call you. Peace!
I would pray about this brother, poligomy is not from the lord,its more of a lust issue that comes from the heart, please repent!
Thanks for your comment and concern! Now how exactly can you be so sure that it is lust from the heart? Please tell me how can you be so sure?
thats not true, God himself said to david that he himself gave his enemie's wifes into his bosom and we know God only gives good gifts , its your corrupted western mind
mona lisa 2 Samuels 2:7-8, KJV, says, “7Then Nathan said to David, “You are the man! Thus says the Lord God of Israel: ‘I anointed you king over Israel, and I delivered you from the hand of Saul. 8I gave you your master’s house and your master’s wives into your keeping, and gave you the house of Israel and Judah. And if that had been too little, I also would have given you much more!” God’s Word is true, because God is true, and let every man be a liar.
You are speaking truth! My newest comment on this video backs up your comment that it was never intended by God! 🙏🏽💕 God bless
@@atlas5651 amen! God Bless you!
Moses remarried AFTER his first wife DIED! Isaac, one wife
Jacob, one wife
Abraham, one wife... only took on the maid in selfishness and impatience being God promised him a son.
+PrettyBrown 856 what Scripture says this? Please provide chapter and verse.
It was given due to the hard hearts of men, not because it's good.
+Sanity Island That sounds interesting, so please render chapter and verse then.
Shalom Shalom Akhy!!
Good video... SOOO GLAD YOU MADE IT CLEAR ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BTWN POLYGYNY vs Polygamy.. was just speaking on thz polygyny is biblical all them.other.. polys is of the world and flesh ..
Ppl also have to understand that even in polygyny there's monogamy... the women are indiviually married to the man tho they are one family.... Both martial ways are biblical and can be beautiful when done RIGHT !!!
Shalom Shalom Sistah! I’m glad you appreciated it! So true, FACTS...The Most High did a wonderful thing in creating each! Thanks for your comment! Many Blessings to you!
Shalom Sis!,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Shalom Akh!
All is well, may The same be for you and yours! Todah for the update ,gone check it out! Also would love to interview you on my podcast and build on this topic ! Link up let me know!!!!
@@sistahcatchachatt7 Thanks Sis! I would love to! You can email me @ mikeallen@digginintheword.biz
Talk to you then.
Shalom!
Everytine discernment is given for marriage, it os monogamous. Marriage was created as monogamous. It is prohibited in the NT. It always caused friction when practiced in the OT. It was a temporary fix for accountability, just like ethics in slavery. Treating them as family and not placing them out in a world the could not adapt to. It was also a temporary means of focused evangelism. We were born free in the garden of Eden and not as slaves. God intends for neither crimes against humanity and adultery. Thatvis of Sodom.
When your Game is on Solomon's level.🙂
Remember God brought him right down on his knees
@@tysonmichael2816 not arguing my friend just stating God's facts. His tricks got him in trouble with God
Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
What is your email? I would like to learn more about this.
Please and thank you.
+Roberto Jimenez Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
Stuff is not found ANYWHERE to support polygamy in the NEW TESTAMENT.
Much of the old stuff was done way-- that's why it's called the OLD TESTAMENT.
It's only few stuff to use for reference in how we came about in the NEW TESTAMENT.
+@pmhatefuls
Hmmm 🤔, how about Matt. 25:1-13; 5:17-20; Rom. 15:4; 1 Cor. 7:2 if you look at the Greek; 1 Tim. 3:2, if you look at the Greek.
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Your time is being taken away from GOD because now you'll be dealing with all these women and their dramas that equals a lot of stress for a man,which your happiness and time with God is being taken away from all your carnal affairs..
It's already stressful dealing with one woman as it is.
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I didn't even mention the stress that the children give us as well, imagine you got 3+ children with all these different women,that too takes away from your Peace and time with GOD.
Good teaching. The Ten Commandments were written by the finger of God. The rules of marriage between a man and his wife / wives are a mirror of the rules of marriage that govern the marriage between Christ and the church. Love your wife as Christs love the church. Christ has many brides that’s why he allows men to have more than one wife. Find all the laws that govern marriage. Then your understanding will be more full. Don’t forget Christ is the High Priest and the high priest must marry a virgin of his own people. Thus the scripture says without holiness shall no man see God. CONNECT THE DOTS !!!
Thank you Brother for your encouragement and for chiming in with such insightful truths! Amen and Amen! Many Blessings to you and yours!
Very true, my friend. I have tried to tell another believer that men are allowed to have multiple women in the same way Christ has many servants, just as you've explained it but the gate is small and the road is ·narrow [or difficult; hard] that leads to true life. ·Only a few people [And there are few who] find that road, so I let them be.
@@rasthehead
Good word Brother. Keep fighting
@@prophetkeithlawrence8221 Thank you for the encouragement, my friend. I will by God's grace.
@@rasthehead a wise move on your part indeed, my Friend. As Jesus said to just, “Shake the dust off your feet, and go to the next town.”
Deuteronomy 17 states NOT TO MULTIPLY WIVES.
Deuteronomy 17:17 NLT
GUIDANCE FOR A KING
“The king must not take many wives for himself, because they will turn his heart away from the Lord. And he must not accumulate large amounts of wealth in silver and gold for himself.”
We will seek only the things we want to believe in. When we found it we take it as a prescription but in fact it could only be a description.
Jesus said it himself that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
No when one is under delusion of other’s lies, they have a tendency to defend those lies, even with the truth is presented right in front of their face. You say subscription but I assume you mean prescriptions, lol. You’re trying to be sarcastic but are using the wrong terminology, smh!
When Jesus said what He said in Matt. 5, He was talking about looking at someone else’s wife, because in that very same chapter, He upheld everything that the Law taught in verses 17-20. In fact, Lev. 20:10, spells out what adultery is for a man and for a woman. Also, Deut. 21:10-14 teaches that it’s okay for a man to look at a single woman and desire her for himself. The issue is when she belongs to someone else. That’s why Deut. 5:21, says,
“21 You shall not covetj your neighbor’s wife. You shall not covet your neighbor’s house or field, or his manservant or maidservant, or his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.”
There’s no commandments for a man to look at a single woman. How else to people connect and eventually get married?
So the next time you attempt to correct someone, make sure your doctrine and terminology is correct. It just looks bad.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen
Whoa.... you are so offended already!
I m not delusion n I dont think I m defending anyone's lies. Matt 5.28 is spelt out very clearly.
After checking all the other bible versions .... I have to say all versions states "a woman" n not "someone's else's wife"
.... I think there's a big difference there. Looks like you are the deluded one.
This is matt 5.17 to 20
_17Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. 18For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
19So then, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever practices and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven._
Dont see any approval here...of getting another woman.
Lol u got me there.... you are right its "pre"scription .... corrected it already. No big deal just a typo n no need to over react but please give me a better phrase ....
" being sarcastic" ain't right.
The rest of your research... I would give u 100 marks for your effort in searching for "someone's else's wife"
Deut 21.10
I dont think the soldier's married.
You dont need a commandment to connect with the opposite gender. People connect by knowing each other thru healthy conversations. But I think the Sixth Commandment....
You must not commit adultery. ..... states it very clearly that we mustn't do that.
Yeah I know my doctrine n terminology need brushing up ...what else do u expect from a dropout?
The next time you do such a video ... I suggest you seek the Holy Spirit to guide you before you do anything that will lead to the downfall of other brothers. Matt 5.19
By the way... how many extra wives are you having now? Are they hidden?
A few more references
Deut 17.17
He must not take many wives for himself, lest his heart go astray. He must not accumulate for himself large amounts of silver and gold.
1 cor 7.2
But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband
1 tim 3
1This is a trustworthy saying: If anyone aspires to be an overseer, he desires a noble task. 2An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife,a temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3not dependent on wine, not violent but gentle, peaceable, and free of the love of money.
On point! I needed this it's such a challenge to hold this in my heart with so much opposition.Its encouraging to hear the points. Must be done in faith to him who the gift is given... remember the weak in the faith let's not look down on them yet not let our good be evil spoken of...
Steve Satterly, an excellent point! And most assuredly of all, as you say, it must be done in faith.... Also, I am glad you found some value here in this clip. God Bless you my Brother!
+Steve Satterly Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
None of what he is saying allows polygamy!!!
And what would you say prohibits it?
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen the word deuteronomy Corinthians
@@koryshepard770 where at in Deuteronomy and Corinthians? Please show me, or at least tell me what have you been told concerning what I said that proves polygamy is not allowed.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen deuteronomy chapter 17 1 Corinthians chapter 7 read it my brother and do not lean on your own understanding you interpretations are flawed its treacherous to treat women this way
@@koryshepard770 I’ve long since read it, and how exactly does it condemn me of treachery? Please make it plain.
Name one scripture where a command is laid out for polygamy? Not a description of it but an actual command! ………. Because there are plenty of commands laid out for monogamy.
*crickets
Actually in Genesis 16, Hagar was commanded to go back to her polygynous household.
Greetings,
I hope all is well with you and yours! Since you’ve commented on my previous video, I’ve been working on putting together new content and a few Ebooks. And, after being asked by a number of viewers, I’ve put together a FREE Ebook on “Biblical Polygamy,” so I would like to share the downloadable link with you in mind: www.digginintheword.biz/landing-page
Enjoy! Shalom and many Blessings to you and yours!
- Mike Allen
Brother ever since I started to beleive in this and found you couse I asked God for a person like you to make me understand wat God had for me people been attacking me with the spirit of adultery making me feel why should I even think about God blessing my life with loyal wife's wat should I do believe that spirit or not ? There's a war against me mom and Christians tell me to believe wat makes me sad.
Just know Brother that there were many before you who suffered being labeled out of their minds for trusting and standing on God’s truth. The fact that you are being falsely judged proves that you are suffering with those that went before us. Hebrews 11 and Hebrews 12:1-2, you have the many the Bible says that the world was not worthy to contain who stood for the truth. I encourage you! Don’t give up because many are blind.
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen for real bro I just felt I came out the foot of the devil preacher and my family and iam in clear vision that's everything it's ok God plan was perfect for me and future wife s glory to God that saved us from hell and devil's plans who against God ? 🙏♥️😇🕊️🔥. Amen
Thank you for sharing insights. I as a believer of the Book of Mormon wonder how a man named Jacob who lived shortly after the time of Jeremiah mentioned that his people had forgotten the commandment of the Lord from Genesis 2:24. He called out David and Solomon for sinning against God in whoredoms of having many wives and concubines and his people for justifying their polygamy because of the Kings of Judea, but they misunderstood scripture. You also see in Matthew 19:5-6 where Christ reiterates the command. You then have more reinforcement in 1 Corinthians 7. Then in 1 Timothy 3 we are told that a Bishops and deacons to have only one wife, and is reinforced in Titus 1. Should we not all be like the Bishops, or like the prophets as Moses said in Numbers 11:29? If we choose to live the lesser law where we take up multiple wives, then how does that get us to Christ? We are stuck under the law and schoolmaster. The law of Moses never brought godliness or salvation to any because of idolatry and abominations. If you are going to say that having multiple wives isn't a sin, then is having slaves not a sin even today? How many men can overcome their carnal nature and NOT favor one wife over another? It is impossible. If you can find a polygamous marriage where all wives are treated and favored equally, then you will find a marriage where the women are keeping secrets and not speaking their peace.
Many claim Joseph to be polygamist, but I have found no concrete evidence to prove that, and contrary I see that his own words and testimony were against polygamy because he knew that no man could control is carnal appetite to favor all equally, but it would cause great issues with the women of such relationships. The practice was not the will of the Father according to the testimony that his single provable wife Emma gave of his feelings towards plural marriage. I think if we want to stay on the bottom rung of Jacob's ladder, then sure polygamy could be alright, but if we want to become godly and ascend to the seventh heaven, we have to leave behind those carnal laws and commandments that keep us down. Is it a sin to reject godliness and ascend in the gospel? ABSOLUTELY for that is what it means to be bound by the chains of hell. I will keep listening to all you have to say. I have come to know that Joseph was not polygamist, and quite possibly neither was Abraham. You can tell that with Jacob, he didn't favor his wives equally, nor did God ever command him to take those wives, but it was all done out of deceit, lies, and lusts of the flesh - not too godly of a situation. Jacob converted to the Lord much later after having entered into 4 supposed marriages. It didn't lead to much good either because most of his sons were sinful and not godly. What does that say about the foundation of Israel? It began corrupt, and many excused themselves for it which I'm sure David and Solomon did too in their time.
You’re welcome, and thank you for your comment?
Genesis 2:24, in the Bible, does not command that a man have only one wife. It only speaks to a life long commitment. That’s why Moses, the writer of Genesis, had no issue with taking on an additional wife himself (Exodus 2:21 & Numbers 12:1). It’s like he would have been guilty of penning the very laws that would’ve gotten him stoned (Leviticus 20:10). Makes no sense.
Matthew 19:5-6, Christ was only saying this in response to the subject matter of divorce and not polygyny. To infer polygyny on this passage in Matthew 19 is to basically commit an eisegete of the text. Divorcing one’s wife for the sake of marrying another is wife swapping and a sin against marriage. While polygyny is only to add to that responsibility.
As far as 1 Corinthians 7 goes, actually this passage supports the practice of polygyny if you were to dig a little further into the Greek. The translated word in vs. 2 for ‘His own,’ in Greek, is - ‘heatou,’ which means - something owned exclusively by him and no one else. While ‘Her own’ in Greek is - ‘idios,’ which means that she could have a shared ownership of him with others, making her peculiar to him, but not the other way around. You see, Paul used these two distinct terms to show that his teaching was still in line with Old Testament Law and practices where a woman must be monogamous, while a man has authority to be polygynous.
On 1 Timothy 3, when you consider the context, Bishops, Elders and Deacons were not told to have only one wife. A closer look, once again, at the Greek as well as the historical context yields the proper interpretation. The word, ‘one,’ Paul uses is translated from the word, ‘mias’ - which actually means ‘of one’ or ‘first.’ However, the more proper translation should be the word, ‘first.’ Not ‘one.’ Why? Simply because, based on the historical context, the Greeks did not practice polygyny within a public marriage framework. However, they did engage in it in a more secretive form of concubinage and swapping of one wife for another. Kind of like it’s done here in the west, btw. Nevertheless, to better understand this passage, it is in grasping who Paul was even writing to. He was writing to his half Greek half Hebrew disciple, Timothy, whom he left in charge to structure a new predominantly Greek congregation at Ephesus. Therefore, it would have been irrelevant for Paul to instruct this new congregation to stop behavior they weren’t even practicing in the first place. Now what makes even more sense is when substituted, vs. 3:2 reads like this: “A Bishop then must be blameless, the husband of the [“first”] wife….” Then when we also consider the remote context, this interpretation fits perfectly with when God instructed Moses to write judgments concerning a man deciding to take on an additional wife. He said, “If he take him another wife; her (the first or current wife) food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.” (Exodus 21:10-11) In other words, what we have here is a principle that has not changed from Moses all the way up until Paul. A man, a Bishop or a Deacon can take on additional wives, providing he not neglect his current wife. Another way put, God certainly does not want His men servants to be into the ‘wife swapping’ game as the Greeks loosely practiced. Thus, this passage does not teach that a Bishop must only have one wife. The word ‘one’ is simply a later mistranslation made to fit western ideology. For it was Greco-Roman culture and its imperialism that has encroached this ideology upon the Roman Catholic Church. Not Scriptural revelation. However, in considering these facts, this only proves that Paul was not against polygyny. Neither here in 1 Timothy 3, nor in Titus 1, which can be translated the same way in vs. 1:6.
In Numbers 11:29, Moses desiring that all of God’s people receive the manifestation of the Spirit in no way means that He was against them practicing polygyny, because on average each man had at least 5-10 wives with about 54 children each coming out of Egyptian. Now this can be deduced by dividing the number of men that came out through the Exodus by the number of firstborn males. According to Numbers 2:32 & 3:42-43, there were 603,550 men that came out of Egypt, which included 22,273 first born males. Now after doing the math, it equates on an average of 27 males per household. And if these households represented, say, about the same amount of females born into them as males, then that equates to about a whopping 54 children per home. Now what I’m pointing out here is that there would likely have been at least 5-10 wives to each family man, coming out of bondage. And also remember, there was that extreme shortage of Israelite men to women from Moses’ generation, leading up until this point, because of the extinction of Hebrew male babies by the Egyptians. Therefore, not only was polygyny a recipe for extreme population growth even within slavery, it remedied the shortage of men to women gap that existed.
Now as far as choosing to live the lesser law, and how does that get us to Christ? Let me say this. The practice of polygyny existed long before the law of Moses was even written. Now we know this is the case, because Paul taught that men were not created for the woman but the woman for the man, and he is to be her head just as Christ is the head of Church in 1 Corinthians 11:2-10 & Ephesians 5:22-24. He also said that they are to be in full submission, because this is what the law teaches in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35. In other words, Paul took no issue with appealing to or using the law of Moses as doctrine in the Church as he did on a number of other issues. That means, not everything within the law has become obsolete within the New Covenant. Nevertheless, laws concerning marriage are perpetual. That’s why Jesus Himself used polygyny as imagery of His Messianic ministry to the church in Matthew 25:1-13. Now as far as getting us to Christ, that very same principle was also written within the law when Moses declared how one obtains the very faith we need to come to Christ. In fact, this is another one of those doctrines taught in the law that gets us to Christ that Paul taught the first century Church (Romans 10:5-13; Deuteronomy 30:11-14; 18:15-19; Isaiah 28:16).
And NO, slavery has never been a sin. That’s why there are a number of NT Scriptures that otherwise condone its practice, providing slaves are treated with dignity(Colossians 4:1; Ephesians 6:5-9). However, man stealing/slave trading is a sin, which is the heart of what made the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade so sinful. For this is yet another part of that very law of Moses you say is “lesser” that Paul uses to enforce and define sound doctrine (1 Timothy 1:8-11; Exodus 21:16).
The Bible never taught that polygynous wives be treated and be favored equally just as it never taught that all children are to be treated the same. Nevertheless, it does teach that the firstborn male is to be favored over all others in birthright. Sounds unfair to me.
You claim polygyny is ungodly, yet God Himself not only has permitted and regulated it, He even gave men their multiple wives, like with David who sinned by taking another man’s wife. He said He was willing to give him more wives when He said to David through the prophet Nathan, “7……You are the man! Thus says the Lord God of Israel: ‘I anointed you king over Israel, and I delivered you from the hand of Saul. 8 I gave you your master’s house and your master’s wives into your keeping, and gave you the house of Israel and Judah. And if that had been too little, I also would have given you much more!” (2 Samuel 12:7-8, NKJV). Now if having multiple wives is so “ungodly and keeps men from ascending in the Gospel,” as you say, then why was God such an accomplice to men having and attaining them? And, since men are to live like God, according to Paul in Ephesians 5:1, then how can polygyny be considered ungodly if God Himself claimed to be the Husband allegorically by having more than one wife (Jeremiah 3; Matthew 25:1-13)?
I disagree with your take on Abraham not being a polygamist. Please show me evidence that proves he wasn’t. Jacob’s polygyny was not the result of his own deceit but of his own integrity. Even though he was hustled, he embraced it and kept Leah, whom he didn’t labor for, as his wife. Solomon’s corruption was not in having multiple wives. It was in marrying strange idolatrous women (1 Kings 11:1-4). However, his father David, although he had about 18 wives lived a perfect sinless life, until his death, after committing adultery with Uriah’s wife (1 Kings 15:1-5; 2 Samuel 22:21-25).
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen Thank you for the reply. I have a new persepctive. I realized that my view was too works-based thinking the act would disqualify a man or woman labeling it as sin, but the sin comes in the behavior within the lifestyle. Taking multiple wives does not make man holy or unholy, but his behavior within that telling of where his heart is brings the judgement. Works cannot condemn or save a man, but only the condition of his heart and love therein. God bless you.
@@lordofthedrumz well I thank you for being such a rare stand up guy in being humbly honest as you’ve changed perspective!
I totally agree. Works are only good if based in faith. Remember, God’s commandment is that we be fruitful and multiply, from the beginning, so when it comes to polygyny, it is a vehicle whereby a man can exercise his faith and discipline on a higher deeper level. Nevertheless, not all have such ability (Matthew 25:14-30).
Suppose to have one wife
Based on what standard? Who told you that?
The scriptures
It also came with consequences but if you do you must provide for all of them
most of the scriptures speaks of having one wife and one husband
Gabriel Urena and wherever the Scriptures speaks of them as being one, does that mean they are no longer are two individuals with two different personalities and two different bodies or do these passages not mean the two have become unified in purpose as the Father and Son are two distinct persons that are one in purpose? Even as we become one in the Body of Christ, we still maintain individuality and uniqueness. However, our individuality and uniqueness becomes willfully submitted by every member to being one in purpose with the entire Body.
As far as there being consequences, please go check the record, there were more consequences left humanity by the monogamous marriages in Scripture than polygamous, because there were more monogamous marriages in the Bible. In fact, it was a monogamous household that led the whole world into sin.
And yes, according to Exodus 21:7-11, a man that takes on additional wives must provide for all of them. However, let me say this, “the primary purpose for having wives in the first place, according to Genesis 2 is because men need the help.” And according to Proverbs 31, a noble wife will help financially. Therefore, providing for one’s wife includes whatever she brings to the table to help him with, and that includes money.
Please pray for me I condemed myself thinking iam doing wrong doing this 🙏
I pray for your inner cleansing in the Name Of Son of the Most High! What exactly is it you think you’re doing wrong?
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen by practicing wat you teach having more than one wife churches had made me scared of doing this brother how can I be convince iam not doing something wrong ?
@@digginintheword-withmikeallen I also beleive God can punish men by doing the same he did to king david jesus said he didn't came to change the law but to finish it God punished king david by betraying his right hand man and took all his wife's and gaved it to one of his brother society now days it's doing wat they want and are against even of god punishnent wen God does it these kind of things gid show us in the bible I beleive bit scared to act on it becouse of all the judgement I been thruw in my life I suffer also from panic attacks so all that combined wants to stop me from serving our lord brother all I want it's to beleive God I'm all situation and be in peace with him 🙌🙏❤️📖
@@franciscolugo5130 I am expriencing something similar, my friend. Sometimes to discover the truth you have to walk away from the church. Perhaps you could pray and ask God to help you find a church that knows and believes the truth, but if there is not one you can find, that won't stop you from being a Christian.
Remember that it's *your* relationship with God, not another man's. What the church says does not matter, only God's Word does.
Stay strong my mate. You, I and many other men are in this together. May the Lord remove false doctrines from our minds and set us free from fear and conformity, in Jesus' Name!
Trust in the truth of His Word.