Most Insane URBAN CREEK Fishing I've EVER FOUND!!! But There's a Catch... (KICKED OUT!)

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  • čas přidán 29. 07. 2023
  • The most unlikely little urban creek instantly became the greatest one I have ever fished! It's unbelievable how many quality fish are stacked up in here. It took me a little bit to figure out why, but after a little bit of exploring it all became very clear as to why this spot was so special! Follow along to see all of the non stop fishing action! We hope you enjoy this one, if so, smash the LIKE button and SUBSCRIBE to our channel to keep up with all of our future fishing adventures! Thanks for watching and we will see you on the next one!
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Komentáře • 148

  • @josephcollins4336
    @josephcollins4336 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Never thought I’d watch someone catch small bream and enjoy it but your entertainment abilities are great!
    As always!
    Good show!!

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      That place was so crazy. I needed more time
      To really exploit it for all that it was worth. Several of those fish were really good sized!

  • @bettylane1984
    @bettylane1984 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Awesome trip! Thanks for taking us along!😊

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      Thanks for joining! We really enjoy sharing all of our fishing adventures!

  • @williamgahman5028
    @williamgahman5028 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Hi Cole. Great video. Really great when you find the fishing holes. Wouldn't think of anything being there. Nice fish. God bless and love yall ❤❤

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      Thanks! Any time I see water, my first thought is if there are any fish there and can I catch them haha

  • @markguy1914
    @markguy1914 Před 11 měsíci

    HeyCole looks like you was just having fun that's what it's all about enjoying yourself having fun thanks for the walk along the creek blessings

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      I love finding weird spots that have a lot of fish. We check out a ton of little creeks always hoping to find one like this that is super loaded. Now I’m wanting to find some more creeks that are being fed by golf course ponds haha!

  • @catfishhunter4893
    @catfishhunter4893 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Another awesome video.

  • @dianebrigraj1869
    @dianebrigraj1869 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Good job cole 😊

  • @matthewmohri9990
    @matthewmohri9990 Před 8 měsíci

    Like how you go to places like people/I pass by while driving and I think wow what kind of fun fish are there and what could I be surprised by?

  • @bobbytodd5846
    @bobbytodd5846 Před 11 měsíci

    My favorite kind of fresh water fishing. I have definitely been run off my share of ponds. I usually know it's private after I start catching fish. Love the video Cole. God bless you guys

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      Yeah! I definitely figured something was up when after a couple of casts there were a hundred fish gathered around waiting for their chance to go for the baby crawfish lure lol there were some huge fish in that pond I really wanted to catch!

    • @davidvento5481
      @davidvento5481 Před 11 měsíci

      @@COLE_and_JAY
      Meh, don’t give those people any money Cole. Dude was probably just some weenie trying to assert a minutia of authority. Ten minutes later somebody else would come and tell you not to fish there... then they might jack you up in the woods thinking you have $$ on you! Best to err on the side of caution.

  • @501outdoorsTV
    @501outdoorsTV Před 11 měsíci

    As always another great video! keep it up!

  • @DrDitchpickle
    @DrDitchpickle Před 10 měsíci

    Awesome creek find! Trout slayer Ftw

  • @Thomas-mo4bw
    @Thomas-mo4bw Před 11 měsíci

    Wow big fun Yahoo.

  • @leemowers9395
    @leemowers9395 Před 11 měsíci

    Nice quick fishing trip. maybe the birthday party is at the golf course... Looking great. thanks for sharing Cole.

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      This was the most fish I have caught in this short amount of time haha I wish the party was at the golf course!

  • @donaldwatson3822
    @donaldwatson3822 Před 11 měsíci

    Great fishing

  • @joeyshepard8478
    @joeyshepard8478 Před 11 měsíci

    Oh yeah that creek fishing is always a blast you did awesome brother

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      It always amazes me what you can find living in the city creeks! Thanks for watching!!

  • @johnbubbajohnson5630
    @johnbubbajohnson5630 Před 11 měsíci

    Cool video Cole. God bless you and your whole family...🙏❤🙏❤🙏

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Thank you! I wish all of our vids were this easy to make! Haha

  • @leonardweeks299
    @leonardweeks299 Před 11 měsíci

    great video as always!!!

  • @henrettadaniel7393
    @henrettadaniel7393 Před 11 měsíci

    Creek fishing I love to creek fish be some big ones in there
    It was some nice blue gills in that one also
    KEEP THEM COMING GREAT VIDEO

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci +1

      The creeks seem to always be productive and it’s always nice to find a hole like this where they act like they have never seen a lure before! Thanks so much for watching!

  • @eddiegonzales1970
    @eddiegonzales1970 Před 11 měsíci

    Awesome video my kind of fishing 100%

  • @sugarsnap7883
    @sugarsnap7883 Před 11 měsíci

    Nice Redear !

  • @user-sj1vj5in5x
    @user-sj1vj5in5x Před 11 měsíci +1

    Just finished playing with the Bassmasters Elite for 4 days on Lake St. Clair and caught 85lbs 12oz of amazing Smallmouth Bass !! That would have been a 10th place finish !! Let’s Goooo !! What a awesome lake to live by !! Who would have guessed a rookie from Arkansas would catch over 91lbs for the win !!

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      You smoked them! Joey is technically a rookie on the elites but he’s been fishing pro for a long time. Dude is a hammer!!! And a smallmouth wizard!

  • @pemancingbanjarmasin8271
    @pemancingbanjarmasin8271 Před 11 měsíci

    Tetap semangat mancingnya semoga selalu di beri kesehatan 😊😊😊

  • @terryhancock
    @terryhancock Před 11 měsíci +3

    Nice

  • @funklemikeoutdoors
    @funklemikeoutdoors Před 11 měsíci

    Looks like fun!

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      It was a blast! This style of fishing always fires me up, I check out a ton of little creeks l always hoping to find one loaded up like this!

  • @TheOutcast7
    @TheOutcast7 Před 10 měsíci

    that was awesome. every cast a hookup.

  • @AUTiger1964
    @AUTiger1964 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Boy that was insane! You could have culled a nice mess of fish out of those big greenies and bluegills! I’ll bet that creek is not fished or has seen very few fishermen.😊

  • @RiverBanks34
    @RiverBanks34 Před 11 měsíci

    Wow! A ton! I’ve got to get caught up on you guys! Been away for awhile!

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci +1

      I did not expect for it to be that crazy down there! Haha it was awesome!

  • @sugarsnap7883
    @sugarsnap7883 Před 11 měsíci

    nice bass

  • @NoraBear61
    @NoraBear61 Před 8 měsíci

    Thems the ones you remember. Imagine what couldn't get to the bail bluegills are fast..

  • @papat9610
    @papat9610 Před 11 měsíci +1

    A true fisherman, just one more cast.😂

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci +1

      I could have made 1000 more casts lol

  • @melvinganoe1175
    @melvinganoe1175 Před 11 měsíci +2

    STAND BY FOLKS. COLE IS LOSING THINGS TO SAY 🙄🙄 THIS IS NOT GOOD 🤣🤣. Cool video cole lol.

  • @terrysumter6440
    @terrysumter6440 Před 11 měsíci

    Those are some nice bluegill

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      Thanks! Especially for that small of a creek!

  • @user-sn9rr1ie6q
    @user-sn9rr1ie6q Před 10 měsíci

    So sorry to hear this, u guys!!! Just buy a camper and travel the country fishing all the state's.. That would be awesome to watch, imagine fun for u guys, and a great life experience for ur kids also. Would just recommend u guys come to Ohio and fish lake Erie. We are know for are huge small mouth bass, yellow perch and mostly and my personal favorite walleye!! I have seen on ur video's u guys have caught some smaller ones but nothing like the one's in this lake. I would also suggest going to put-in-bay, Kelly's island, and the number one amusement park in the world Ceder Point!! You could do all of this from a town called Sandusky or Port Clinton!! I would definitely recommend you guys at least look into at least visiting the area!! Once again very sorry to hear about your lake!! Just keep your head's up and just try and find the positive out of the bad situation!!

  • @karlarrington5362
    @karlarrington5362 Před 11 měsíci

    The fish in that creek have good coloring 👍🏾

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      They really do! Some times that isn’t the case. The creek itself was beautiful too. Wish there was a little bit more of a buffer around it so you could kind of drown out all of the city noise lol

  • @thomascope2119
    @thomascope2119 Před 11 měsíci

    Call anje have you fished the lakes that the film Burt Reynolds White Lightning was filmed in Arkansas

  • @Mikel3564
    @Mikel3564 Před 11 měsíci

    Great video Cole! I am not a big fan of fishing for small bait fish, but I did enjoy your enthusiasm and love the creek exploring. The little bass and the bigger one in the lake was a nice bonus though!

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      Thank you! I generally don’t like going for micros either, but was pleasantly surprised by the quality of these creek fish! I just love to fish and I get fired up catching fish in weird spots like this. Since it seems this creek is being stocked from overflow from
      The pond I bet there are some giants somewhere in this creek. Need to do some more exploring!

  • @polycat7670
    @polycat7670 Před 11 měsíci

    Definitely look into the limitation of fishing.

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Yeah need to see if there are any loopholes lol. I bet there are some nice fish further downstream if there are any good holes!

  • @PeonSLR
    @PeonSLR Před 11 měsíci

    i live in NE Arkansas right next to the bootheel i cant ever seam to find naything places like this just mud holes which are fine but some clear water fishing would be nice from time to time

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      I can relate to you on that. We lived up there for 7 years while going to college and afterwards. It wasn’t the best fishing and we had to travel usually at least an hour away to find some productive water. Some
      Of those mud holes and ditches have some
      Good fish in them though!

  • @papat9610
    @papat9610 Před 11 měsíci

    Cole enjoy your stay in the dog house😂😂.

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Haha! I tried to get big boss to go!

  • @billmccullough2323
    @billmccullough2323 Před 11 měsíci

    You only made about 200 one more casts!!! LOL Hard to leave a good fishing spot isn't it??? LOL Nice video and super nice little creek!

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      I could have fished there all day! Lol I’m
      Bad about making a bunch of last casts. I literally never want to leave. I can’t think of the last time I left a fishing spot on my own will lol

  • @patriciaguenzler9150
    @patriciaguenzler9150 Před 11 měsíci

    That guy looked like he had fishing gear you were in his spot

  • @jkcazz8250
    @jkcazz8250 Před 11 měsíci

    That’s crazy cool where were you?

  • @Lonerwolf420
    @Lonerwolf420 Před 11 měsíci

    I catch the green sunfish on Maumelle hwy 10 huge..just Friday I caught 3 slabs as big as a chunky bluegill or redear!! Mouths are huge so they can eat 🤣

    • @Lonerwolf420
      @Lonerwolf420 Před 11 měsíci

      Why cant we post pics on comments here? Thats dumb 💯🤷

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      There’s some donkeys over there!

  • @MrMuDD01
    @MrMuDD01 Před 11 měsíci +2

    If you have access in that creek you were fishing. Then you might very well be able to legally fish from that concrete from the bridge. That was most likely the State or County that own that property right there. Depending on that roadway and where it is. But your probably on a easement that allows the government to do things like this, including public services like water,sewer and such. So they might tell you that you can't fish there, but that doesn't mean they are right. If you could float you kayak in there without touching the land. You most likely could do that as well, since its a creek. Most of the time in most states your allowed to portage around obstacles like fences on a creek or river. Depending on the state, but it does pay off to know the laws in your area!

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci +2

      Yeah I bet there are some loopholes that would allow me to fish where I was standing at since I accessed it from a public area. I’ve fished several golf courses and sometimes they just let you fish so I figured I would just fish until someone told me otherwise. Haha

    • @ccradventures4298
      @ccradventures4298 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@COLE_and_JAYhi there have you heard of lake Conway is going too be drained in September I’ve been out there trying to catch some fish we got a couple of bass and blue gills but there’s no limit right now out there you need to go catch all the fish you can!!!!! Bc if not the will sadly go to waste, LOVE THE Vids

  • @sugarsnap7883
    @sugarsnap7883 Před 11 měsíci

    go to the Party ? you are at the Partey ! 🎉

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci +1

      I know! The party should have came to me! Lol

  • @williestephens4327
    @williestephens4327 Před 11 měsíci +1

    👍👍👍👍👍👍GO FISHING FOR CICHLIDS PANFISH 🎣🎣🎣🎣🎣🎣

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci +2

      Definitely want to but would have to travel back down to Louisiana or go to Florida or something. Really want to go for the Oscar’s and Mayan cichlids in S. Florida!

    • @williestephens4327
      @williestephens4327 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Ok

  • @charlier1977
    @charlier1977 Před 11 měsíci

    That my friend is my favorite type of fishing. I don't care about keeping them. I'd just like to hit a honey hole like that.

  • @chrismayo3065
    @chrismayo3065 Před 11 měsíci

    How do you get the tiny baits to cast any distance?

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      I’m using 8lb braided line which has a very small diameter and makes casting light lures a good bit easier. I had 4lb mono leader on the end.

  • @timfisher1376
    @timfisher1376 Před 11 měsíci

    It should be called the panfish slayer!!!

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      It really should! Might be time for a rebrand lol

  • @JD.California_monkey_mackerel
    @JD.California_monkey_mackerel Před 11 měsíci

    How is baby summer and doing jay doing sending them a big hug 🤗

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci +1

      They’re doing great! Was hoping Jay would be able to get down to the creek with me. We have some trips lined up this week though!

    • @JD.California_monkey_mackerel
      @JD.California_monkey_mackerel Před 11 měsíci

      @@COLE_and_JAY hello good morning my friend that's very nice to hear sending you both a big hug and to the family I enjoy seeing your both fishing it makes my day a little bit brighter blessings to the both of you keep going strong 💖👍🎣 I understand that sometimes it's very difficult for jay to go fishing with you because the babys are More important and it a big responsibility send you both lots of love 💕

  • @josephpecoraro2788
    @josephpecoraro2788 Před 11 měsíci

    Only Fish and Game checking for fishing licenses and limits but I'm only one fishing these old sand pits and ponds but I know there Black crappie here but I catch just nice Bluegill and 6 to 8 inch large mouth . You got to find out if you can get permission to fish that golf course . Joey

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Yeah I really do! There were some monsters in it!

  • @mackharvey8750
    @mackharvey8750 Před 11 měsíci

    What line are you using on your ACC 6.5?

  • @marthamitchell9452
    @marthamitchell9452 Před 11 měsíci

    In Oregon if the waterway is navigable you can legally be in it up to the high water mark. In Montana if you can recreate in the water you can be in it up to the high water mark. However🎉you are not allowed to access the water through private property without permission. I know some places don’t allow you to touch the bottom of the waterway.

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci +1

      I want to go back and check and see what the creek looks like above the golf course pond and if there are any more good holes downstream. Since it seems like the creek was being stocked by the pond I bet there are some big fish stuck in there somewhere! I saw some giants swimming in the pond!

  • @markstaten9526
    @markstaten9526 Před 11 měsíci +1

    what was the line you were using you put it to um!

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci +1

      10lb berkley x9 braid to 4lb trout magnet sos line!

    • @markstaten9526
      @markstaten9526 Před 11 měsíci

      thank you i really enjoyed that trip, i'm going Sat u got me generated! @@COLE_and_JAY

  • @sucessintegral5503
    @sucessintegral5503 Před 11 měsíci

    💯👍

  • @rumbleyd
    @rumbleyd Před 11 měsíci

    Those more orange fish may have been red breast sunfish.

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      Those were male bluegill 100% thanks for watching! Want to get into some rebreasts though

  • @danieljohnson8437
    @danieljohnson8437 Před 10 měsíci

    REBEL Crawdad

  • @davidvento5481
    @davidvento5481 Před 11 měsíci

    Amazing location those fish are specimens. You do check for ticks after walking in the woods/high grass(?) Trust me, you don’t want Lyme Disease.
    _Also, why not get a pair of polarized lenses that fit your face, those are huge!_
    _Just sayin’._
    👍🏻

  • @jeffreymihalko6392
    @jeffreymihalko6392 Před 11 měsíci

    Now that defines a honey hole..

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      You could almost walk across the fish they were so thick!

  • @reallovechannel1309
    @reallovechannel1309 Před 11 měsíci +4

    No one owns a water way, creek or river !!!
    They own the land around. But not the waters !!!

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      I think they own their pond lol 😅

    • @catfishhunter4893
      @catfishhunter4893 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Laws are different from state to state. I'm in a neighboring state. And if you walk down the creek that runs on somebody's property you are trespassing. But if you are in a kayak and not touching the land its not considered trespassing.

    • @Mikel3564
      @Mikel3564 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @reallovechannel1309 It's called being respectful

    • @reallovechannel1309
      @reallovechannel1309 Před 11 měsíci

      @@Mikel3564
      How about being respectful of those who fish in free waters ?
      People believe that because they own a lot, then they own everything !!!

  • @stangr21
    @stangr21 Před 9 měsíci

    You CAN fish that spot. It is definitely navigable waterway and if you stood your ground no one could tell u to leave. Police and game warden would be on ur side.

  • @BobBohner4851
    @BobBohner4851 Před 11 měsíci

    I learned a lot from this one like check out the small small streams. How do you know if they’re safe to eat?

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci +2

      I’m not sure how you would know, but we generally stay away from eating fish from these more urban creeks and agricultural ditches just in case

    • @BobBohner4851
      @BobBohner4851 Před 11 měsíci

      @@COLE_and_JAY thanks.

  • @FISHING.PETUALANG
    @FISHING.PETUALANG Před 11 měsíci

    Hlo Cole 🎣🙏

  • @tobieTyler6007
    @tobieTyler6007 Před 11 měsíci

    What are the odds that you caught the same fish twice

  • @sugarsnap7883
    @sugarsnap7883 Před 11 měsíci

    maybe when they all saw the plastic crawfish, they were like, " its the Last crawfish !!" get it .

  • @sugarsnap7883
    @sugarsnap7883 Před 11 měsíci

    If you pay, and they care and also can tell that you are a responsible fisher, it shouldn't be a problem, specially if you shutt off the camera for the transaction.

  • @nickrosch6984
    @nickrosch6984 Před 11 měsíci

    I'm wondering what the total of fish caught was?? 🤪

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci +1

      I included every fish so you’ll have to go back and count them all haha!

  • @tobieTyler6007
    @tobieTyler6007 Před 11 měsíci

    I'll be right there honey just one more cast

  • @mikehunt6179
    @mikehunt6179 Před 11 měsíci

    I love creek fishing where people don't fish...it's a slayfest.

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      Yeah! The creeks always have fish and then you’ll run into some like this one that are stupid good!

  • @jlvoutdoors
    @jlvoutdoors Před 11 měsíci

    That sure looks like Puppy Creek.

  • @jodycopeland1
    @jodycopeland1 Před 11 měsíci

    Don’t you know they would be good to eat

  • @aydenashby8498
    @aydenashby8498 Před 11 měsíci +1

    1st

  • @sugarsnap7883
    @sugarsnap7883 Před 11 měsíci

    they are not starving with all that grass and trees around, probably all kinds of insect dropping on the water.

  • @ronaldsmith2159
    @ronaldsmith2159 Před 11 měsíci

    there is a hole in front of you.

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      I think there are some bigger holes downstream too that I want to check out next time!!

  • @tedworden1923
    @tedworden1923 Před 11 měsíci

    Funny, totally pay for day pass to fish... ?

  • @clinton65565
    @clinton65565 Před 11 měsíci

    I think they were wrong kicking you ou t yes it is private property but they should let you fish

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci +1

      They should have at least let me fish 30 min lol 😂

    • @clinton65565
      @clinton65565 Před 11 měsíci

      @@COLE_and_JAY lol

  • @greggmeyer5836
    @greggmeyer5836 Před 11 měsíci

    Someone actually walked over to you and said get out?you were not hurting any fish or anyone. Im sorry people are so evil theses days.

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      They kicked me out of there in less than 5 min haha

    • @greggmeyer5836
      @greggmeyer5836 Před 11 měsíci

      @@COLE_and_JAY well I guess just moving to another place is best.

  • @Byron4RollTide
    @Byron4RollTide Před 11 měsíci

    Take your ACC and throw it in the creek and go buy a real rod.

    • @COLE_and_JAY
      @COLE_and_JAY  Před 11 měsíci

      What’s your favorite rod?

    • @Byron4RollTide
      @Byron4RollTide Před 11 měsíci

      @@COLE_and_JAY
      The Outlaw Crappie Poles are my favorite. JR has a great product.

    • @Byron4RollTide
      @Byron4RollTide Před 11 měsíci

      @@COLE_and_JAY I own 4 ACC’s. The 5’6”, 6’6”, 8’ Super Grip and the 11’ Super Grip. They set in the corner of my garage collecting dust. The Blend of Kevlar and Graphite is too stiff. Kevlar is meant for military helmets, not Crappie Rods.

  • @OJA1965
    @OJA1965 Před 11 měsíci

    It should be illegal to bother a fisherman regardless where he is. You weren't bothering anyone, they were just being pricks. Bet their golf game sucks too.

  • @JD.California_monkey_mackerel
    @JD.California_monkey_mackerel Před 11 měsíci

    Please do a collaboration with @fishingwithbecca please