ALERT: TM30 Rule Changes At Thai Immigration?
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- čas přidán 15. 10. 2023
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Will Thailand strangle its own tourism sector because of bureaucracy related to TM30?
nah, it's not tourist related....but I'm hearing ya anyway
It should be integrated with arrival immigration check-in.
If you leave the country frequently that second visit to Immi is really going to add up.
So glad I decided not to retire in Thailand. They certainly don't make you feel welcome with their mania for useless paperwork
It's how they all stay employed; mountains of needless paperwork and bureaucracy. And it's all funded by the poor sap expat.
Another pain in the ass since I live 2 hours from my closest immigration office. I hope this is something we can do online.
Petchaburi has twice told us when reporting to their faciity after quick trips out of Thailand that if returning to same addresss (we have 1 yr Lease) NO TM30 required again. so now we dont have TM30s stamped from date of last entry. This bait and switch Thai moneygrab has to end. Interestingly, recent online 90day report Approved despite this.
Doesn't make sense. I haven't updated a TM30 for four years, which includes 4 visits abroad. I was told by immigration that there was no need to update if I was returning to the same address as previously (always) stated. Four extensions made in that time with no issues.
Same previous experience here but, at recent visit to Jomtien immigration, I was told that TM30 must now be submitted whenever returning to LOS regardless of no change of address.
@@paulchilvers5032 I believe you but how was I supposed to know. I've been out of the country twice this year. Maybe Chiang Mai will be different.
Good by Thailand,hello Phillipines.
When I last returned from my home country we rang immigration and was told no need to report because I had multiple re entry permit?? Doesn’t make sense at all!
Same. No need to report unless you change your permanent address.
Advised two weeks ago that this is no longer the case at jomtien immigration
We report to local police station as its a 2 hour trip to immigration at Khon Kaen. If they expect me to report within 24 hours of arriving when I have had a long 20 hour trip into Thailand and then upcountry and I am somewhat jet lagged and needing sleep they can go and jump. So yes, unreasonable comes to mind and giving people 3 days to report would be kind and fair.
I can give an update on this. The Thai TM30 reporting website has been updated and now we are able to use it. So not only did we go to local police and register (and get a copy of the report), we also did it online. For years the web site was a real struggle and we could not reset the password!
@@armunro Can you register for yourself that you have arrived in Thailand or does it have to be your wife or a family member (as the homeowner) that does it? Thanks in advance.
Government once again making one's life more complicated.
Came to Thailand to retire.5 years of this will we wont we is getting stressful.The green green grass of home is starting to call me
This has been the case in Chonburi since 2021. You leave Thailand, get a new TM 30
So every time I leave the country and return I have to round up my landlord and head off to immigration to redo the same TM30? How many landlords are going to be up to this? And if they aren't?
3:20 Just went to Jomtien Immigration today to get a new TM30 receipt in my passport. I was charged a ฿1600 fine for late reporting due to the fact my reentry date was 4 Sep 2023. Apparently, the law requires you to report within 24 hrs to avoid a fine.
@MrWaraksa Did Immigration provide you a receipt for the $1600 Baht fine?
@@mikeylikethailand yes.
U need to extend visa or not?Actually law is saying owner of building should be fined.But u need to extend visa then owner of the building they dont care.
I understand the purpose behind this requirement - validating where you live - but maybe some kind of efficiency to this process will be developed. Sounds like its a bit of a pain.
I guess it's like this: If you reside here in Thailand on a visa... when ever you re-enter the country ... Don't waste any time and get your new TM 30! Correct Ben?
@@Eoghan-hs2wz It's very easy for me...I have an Incredible agent. Rather over do it then take chances here!
But with the new TM30 computerized system there is no receipt after you report online, nor you can get a print out. How can we get a receipt of TM30 reporting?
I left Thailand to visit my home country and when I returned 9 weeks later on August 25th I had a valid visa, my re-entry permit and returned to the same address that I was living at before I left. When I went to immigration in Udon Thani to complete my TM30 as required the immigration office also wanted a new TM27 submitted.
Cambodia is very nice.
So if you stay in a hotel(s), they're supposed to give you a receipt for the TM-30?
If done on line , how?
Nothing new about reporting TM 30. Everytime you sleep in a different location a TM 30 must be filed. Also every time you re enter Thailand a TM 30 must be filed. Last year my Thai wife did it online. This year we had to waste a whole day visiting the local immigration office. A total pain in the ass. TIT.
Another level of annoyance. Specially for me that rent long term but my landlady is incapable of doing this task for me. So basically I'm screwed. Why can't we just do this ourselves when we rent long term? Doesn't make sense that is has to be the owner.
I own a condo but still seems to be a pain
How do you print a receipt TM30 from the new implemented system ?
This would be less of an issue if the online TM30 system produced a PDF receipt that you could print out and put in your passport. My landlord insists that the system does not provide this and he therefore had to go in person and waste a day of his life. If someone knows how to get a physical receipt from an online TM30 submission please post the details.
You screenshot the page and print it. Thats it. It's goes into the system, in theory you shouldn't even need it since it's in their computer system. But this is Thailand.
@@enterthenuttmeister You would think they would email a PDF receipt upon acceptance, equivalent to what you get in person, similar to what you get with an online 90 day report acceptance, that you could then print and put in your passport. I was hoping this new system they just launched would do that. I struggle to understand why they would demand a document in your passport that they do not provide.
my landlord Saud doing TM30 was too difficult and just doesn't do it. I have to stay at a hotel every 90 days to do my report. Moving out next month.
Same with me if you do on line then why do you have to go immigration crazy , I've not got recipe just see what happens
Can you use a screenshot of the online tm30 to use for a extension
What is the difference between checking in with immigration within 24 hours of entering or re-entering Thailand and indicating your address and doing a new tm30. I guess it may have to do with the new TM30 and Chonburi immigration.
Just spoke w/ Thai visa & they said no for renewal bc landlord already did
Hello Ben, I heard this video hours before re entering Thailand via air. Processing thru the immigration portal at the airport the immigration officer would not stamp a current date on my TM 30 which was stapled in my passport. Is this new rule only in the Chonbury area or nationwide?
This makes no sense if you’re returning to the same address initially reported and you either own it or have a lease.
My lease is 2 years and was told told she’ll do the TM30 when I move in, which she did, but after that it’s on me.
I’m out of country so when I return I guess I’ll need to run up to CM immigration with 24 hours to check.
Makes me wonder though, once I do my 90 day next time, and the next etc, and the address remains the same as the initial TM30, will they really notice it? If they give us a multiple entry stamp, then they know we’re all leaving and coming back.
? Does this mean that when I go to Thailand on a 60 day visa , and later want to extend that with another 30 days , that when I arrive on day 1 at the airport , I need a TM30 immediate ?
I really don't have a problem with immigration, but the whole TM30 thing is really total BS. It has, in fact, nothing to do with the forefinger whose name is on the form. It is a form that has to be submitted by anyone hosting a foreigner overnight. The reality is that the homeowner/property owner must submit this form and nowhere does it state that the TM30 receipt should be given to the foreigner who appears on the form.
I can't see why immigration across all of Thailand doesn't seem to understand this.
The form that foreigners should be filling out is the TM28. So in a way glad that they have pushed the TM30 onto us rather than the property owners because the TM28, if administered, would be an even greater nightmare.
Over the last 17 years of living here fulltime and during the almost 40 years (will be come January 8th) of coming here, immigration has always been a breeze, even if sometimes a lengthy breeze :) :) :)
So when did this new rule start? I’ve gone on trips out of Thailand many times, I have a retirement Non O visa and didn’t need a TM30, I came back to Thailand last month, how were we supposed to know about this new rule! Why on earth can’t you get a TM30 at the airport on re-entering Thailand! Or a least be told that you have to have one within 24 hours? If your returning to your same address, I can’t see the reason for a TM30?
That's right. Change of rules 28th June 2020, section 2.2. No need to submit TM 30 on return unless you change permanent address.
@@robertkimmins4004Ahh ok thanks, that makes sense!
How do i get a copy of tm 30, do i have to contact my landlord
Hi I came into Thailand August 17 on a 60 day Visa and 0applied for my O retirement Visa which I have now got (multi entry) During this time I have stayed at various hotels and apartments in Bangkok and Pattaya, does this now mean I have to get a TM 30 receipts from all those places that I stayed in ?
The hotel/apartment is supposed to do the report for you.
@@armunro Thank you but I was concerned that in the video they now want the TM 30 receipts in your passport.
What is a person supposed to do if they use the immigration mobile phone app to submit the TM30? I've done a couple of TM30 reports on the app. It didn't give a receipt.
@worldcitizenra could you tell me the name of the app please? Is it in the Apple store or do you have to download from somewhere else? Thanks in advance.