Logitech Created The Most Pointless "AI" Device
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- We are currently in the AI bubble, in the future it might be cool but right now there is a lot of garbage being devised that serves no purpose in existing and I think Logitech has just created such a device.
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You can't even find dumb TVs anymore and Roku is showing why we need them back.
Easy solution - PC monitor as a TV
@@DryPaperHammerBro they are tiny and they will, for sure, once the demand picks up, "bless us" with newer, "better", smart monitors too.
@@DryPaperHammerBro Wait till the good ones get "smartified", Fight back!
@@DryPaperHammerBro Way, way, WAY too expensive to use as a TV.
@@DryPaperHammerBro Yeah no. their specs are geared towards different goals. it's just a waste of money.
brodie claims this device is "pointless" when a mouse is literally a POINTING device
That's just how bad the mouse is.
Ba dum tss
Rob, teach me the uncle joke ways
I need this power.
@@matthrew Hi Matthew, if you buy the logitech mouse, it has an AI button which will help you write a prompt to learn how to do uncle jokes - good luck!
@@drlukewhite they call themselves LOGItech
But their tech doeant have any logic...
"Smart golf balls" reminds me of that prank gift where the ball has a remote-controlled motor inside, so your dad slices a perfect drive, and you curveball it right into a tree.
okay but thats actually an incredible idea
Before the motorised ones there were "trick" balls, weighted with a small marking. These can be used for fun or pranks quite effectively.
Now that's a smart golfball
I could actually think of a thing where a "smart" golf ball could be useful: To find it.
Like those keychains with a tracker that can beep to find your keys. But in a golf ball and connected to a phone app so that you can find it on the green.
@@HappyBeezerStudios That already exist and have been used in competitions. As I recall they're quite expensive and making your own isn't really an option for this sport specifically.
More useless than those old Amazon "1-click order" buttons they pushed for a while. You'd put one, say, in the laundry room, and when you're running low on soap or something, push the button, and it would connect to Amazon, place and ship your box of powder or bottle of goo.
Problem was, they were colourful, and buttony. Kids loved them. Parents, however, did not love getting a pallet of detergent the next day.
They were also illegal in most jurisdictions outside the USA because you cannot legally make a contract without double confirmation.
People also loved hacking them to connect to their own home automation systems. They sold them for a loss, so it was quite cheap.
Thats some next level consoomerism shit
“Ai is entering its ‘Juicero’ era” as someone so aptly put it.
Primagen iiirc
@@glowingone1774 Primagen quoting The Verge
I was just thinking that lol
Still don't think it could ever be as useless as Juicero
My refrigerator is connected to the net. Why? Not sure.
At one point, the compressor broke and the interior was room temperature. Hey, that sounds like a great use of this diagnosis tool on its web interface.
Diagnosis: Working fine, temperature 34 F....
Umm. No. Apparently all it can do is tell me the set temperature, not the actual temperature. And is utterly incapable of even recognizing that it's in a refrigerator's most basic failure mode (not being cold)
thanks LG, you sure did a good job and didn't waste your time with this "smart" interface
That's actually hilarious thanks for the laugh LG
I cannot wait for the AI bubble to burst and for 90% of this silly AI nonsense to go away .
It'll be like the early internet, most of the businesses had no reason to exist but the ones that made sense survived through the pop
AI isn't nonsense its nonsense to put it in EVERYTHING.
I can see AI like google's gemini and Microsoft's copilot sticking around but most of the resf of it will absolutely burst
@@SnowyRVulpixImage and video stuff also will probably stick.
Also AI isn't more than just LLMs or Image diffusion Models. The recommendation engines of social media are AI driven for years already.
I asked Facebook's AI interface how to make its AI interface go away. It pointed me to settings in the settings menu that don't exist.
To be fair, this is just as helpful as any other help interface for Facebook
Noooo smart GPU man said AI big and no more devs needed!!! Devs are just coping, my Wifi connected, AI accelerated Samsung Smart Spoon is the future!!!
This is the single most accurate comment summarizing the shitfest we call bigtech.
@@minefacex bro you’re just a hater. Right now I have to google macronutrients while I’m eating - a smart spoon could solve that. If I do that for every meal, that’s like 1min per meal, which would be like 1200mins per year. So $50one time plus $9 per month would basically make me money. So the more I eat or the more spoons I use, the more efficient I am - infinite money glitch. #HustleLife
Well no, AI is something you want. If you stem vocals and instruments from songs, or you use Spaghetti Detective or Frigate (self-hosted video surveillance with person detection), you're using AI. I even saw a thesis about scheduling processes using a neural network. If you think AI just means the visible stuff like AI-generated images you out yourself as an idiot.
@@Kane0123 That means nothing compared to my 100% samsung body which is 200 dollars per month! And my Apple furniture which is 1000 dollars per year!
I'd happily give up the Copilot key in exchange for full-size cursor keys.
Yeah, THAT is the dumbest anti-feature of current laptop keyboards! What idiot thought it would be a good idea to shrink down some of the most frequently-used keys?
@Roxor128, those vim enthusiasts gone too far. :D
I'd happily give up the copilot key in exchange for not having a copilot key, or the windows key in return for not having a windows key.
Who remembers the "special" keys in most keyboards in the 2000s? They would just launch the mail client, media player or whatever.
I have the calculator one and it is wonderful.
Oh, I have one of those. It's very handy. The email button launches my email, positions it on the right monitor and then opens TeamVeiwer and Remmina and puts them in the upper right of my left monitor. The web browser button opens Firefox and Super web browser button opens Chromium. The multimedia keys control MPD.
Those are still a thing, some keyboards still have em and they're part of the USB keyboard protocol iirc, so you can make your macro keys act like those buttons
There are specific key codes in X11 for them
Well, they're in XKB to be precise, which is also used in a lot of Wayland compositors as well.
There's actually some crossover between them as F13-F24 in the default XKB mapping, so you can assign a layer key to F23 for instance and bind an action in Hyprland to the "Eject" button. (I don't recall what F23 actually maps to, but you get the idea)
I have some small camera from like 2013 that has face tracking, object tracking, contextual autofocus, face id, gps, tracking autofocus, blink detection, a wind filter and like 20x zoom.
That would 100% be an "AI camera" or some bs today
what is wind filter? cameras can't see wind
@@RandomGeometryDashStuff for the microphones to not pickup wind in video recordings
To be fair - I distinctly remember cameras coming out ~10 years ago that ran a small ML model to detect faces. This was emphasized in the marketing material, and it was indeed both useful and impressive. It blew my mind at the time.
I'm holding out for the Logitech AI Skibidi Rizz edition with Smart Ohio.
I can't tell the difference between slang and a stroke anymore. :(
+Amogus!*
@@CptJistuce frfr ong no cap fam, sus!
I'm almost 50, and like an XKCD comic, one of my hobbies is using zoomer/generation ipad slang in the cringiest way possible.
"Ahh yes, i certainly agree, this is entirely sus and is, indeed, cap, as the way it hits different is entirely off-fleek, fam."
Unfortunately it's only a matter of time before it kills some kid when their head implodes.
@@rustymustard7798 You may be Cringe, but you are Free.
@@talos_vulkan I identify as open source vs Free, my pronouns are Libre/FOSS.
I actually DO live free literally. I'm like a stereotype/meme of the 'Luke Smith Based Linux Chad' user lol, i'm using solar, doing cad, coding, 3d printing and such with Arch on old Thinkpads way TF off grid up inside a ferrocement dome in a mountain wilderness a mile and a half high, and working on getting to a point where i can grow all my own food and then some.
It's nice to not have to pay corpo extortion to exist. Power, water and firewood literally fall out of the sky or treetops for free. I've got enough space and privacy to build a fire 100 feet tall and ride dirt bikes around it naked shooting guns without the cops getting called if i so desired. This is the view from my place, the world is down past the mountains and below the clouds somewhere lol. drive.google.com/file/d/1gLqfgEb7xz5rioh5ehfam9MrDMUMiodw/view?usp=sharing
Remember when On-line renamed themselves to to On-line Blockchain even though they nothing to do with the tech? Their stock shot up around 400%. Anyway in unrelated news I'm rebranding to ImmoloAI shortly and am about to apply for an IPO.
I think the age old saying is always true - "If it becomes a bandwagon and if corporations start jumping on it, its automatically dead"
A.I. powered painting. No explanation as to what's A.I. about it, you have to change the batteries every few months, just a painting to hang on a wall.
Saw something like that on Hackaday. The person who made it used three pieces of e-paper for display and cycled through a bunch of sets of ML-generated images (hand curated ahead of time). Can't remember what they used for the computer to drive it, but it ran off battery power and got a week or two out of a charge.
@@Roxor128 Nononono you misunderstand.
A.I. *painting.* You know, as in paint and brush strokes.
It's just A.I. for some inexplicable reason.
@@kmemz it changes colour when nobody is around
I would buy an A.I. powered shit
When the marketing people outnumber the engineers and all they care about is that 0.01% increase in their KPIs
Phase 1: ai emerges and creates hype
Phase 2: ai is the buzz word and it’s put in everything
Phase 3: only the practical and useful ai applications survive as the hype dies
Man the bubble burst was glorious. Times they are a repeating.
Oh Logitech, how far you've crashed. An AI button? Really?!
Now we just need an AI gaming mouse so that I can have 16 different static prompts available to my right thumb.
Imagine paying 50 bucks for an AI button
@@Exvixcity That sounds even worse than Microsoft's update to their PC keyboard line with the Bing Copilot button. and I sometime use Copilot.
the AI button could be so good if they just did it right, I would absolutely love a mouse that could use AI to let's say configure the mouse DPI or that allowed the mouse to use AI to do some sort of functionality such as like a smart macro button which would allow it to make a repetitive action on the Press of that button. like the idea is cool. it's just that the implementation really sucks
So... who's the "good" mouse company these days? Or are we past the point where good companies are even a thing that can exist anymore, even temporarily?
I remember the "multimedia" boom of the 90s. That was probably the first IT buzzword I learned, and they sold the stupidest stuff branded as "multimedia".
Those are actually special buttons treated differently in the OS
I'm still using one of those multimedia keyboards, some buttons are useless, but others I really like and use all the time.
There are 3 buttons for PC volume control (Lower, Higher Mute) and one that can pause a running youtube video when I'm playing a game on another screen, I don't have to tab out!
@@Linkopoop mine is the same except I have a wheel for vol up and down but it's registered in the os as the same keys
This happened because a senior figure at Logi said "we need an AI device" and the engineering team couldn't figure a way to tell them to get lost. So they half-assed it knowing that someone would pay for it anyway
i can image some management guy saying "we need a mouse for this"
then the team says "why only one mouse, we have a software" then proceeds to make it available for everything without telling the management dude
I've got a $9 'Gaming' mouse from Ebay like 3 years ago with the same buttons.
Big companies keep repeating hundreds times `AI` on their presentations. So sick of it by now.
Honestly if someone made an extension to remove the word ai from all websites I would use it (kind of like an adblcoker but for words)
To techbros: just because it looked cool to use in a sci-fi movie, it doesn't mean it would be useful in real life.
And no, anime waifus using them doesn't make it an exception (I remember seeing some cyborg anime girls using wireless earbuds a few years before Apple ditched the headphone jack to force people to adapt to them).
We gonna be rich boyyyz!
Here is the best idea!
Smart toiletpaper with intigrated AI!
Now your shit can be smart too!
Crap GPT. LLM model with advanced flush secret technology.
@@musicalneptunian crap-gpt is an LSM model
You’d obviously buy it through a subscription of X rolls per month. But unless you pay for the data plan the box of rolls can’t be opened.
Must add AI to my display server right now... 😂
Can't wait for my AI nose-hair trimmer.
have you guys noticed that privately shared corporations like Valve not only make more money per employee but also don't need to waste time on impressing investors with AI crap?
I'm gonna sell AI chairs.
Not sure what it will do, probably nothing, but I guess I can order my Lambo right now...
Just make sure it requires batteries and has some pulsating RGB lights somewhere. Oh and an AI button, obviously. 😂
The cushions use ai to automatically conform to your posterior. Just like regular cushions.
ooo I know… It connects to an app and learns what height and incline you prefer to set it at what time of day and automatically adjust accordingly. By “learns” I mean there’s no actual AI involved, it just runs elementary statistical functions like mean, mode and medium to perform “predictions” but the customer doesn’t need to know that. Also the app stops being supported and seizes to work after 3 years when the servers shut down and the chair can no longer be adjusted. I hope my AI consultation was useful, that will be $69000, thank you.
@@Discount-Stonks Hmm... Statistical functions...? 3 years support...? Maintaining servers...?
I hoped a sticker reading "AI" slapped on the bottom would suffice?
I'll send you a fiver for the effort tho.
I'm pretty interested in the machine learning stuff, but the entire AI hype bubble is absurd and annoying. Replacing the polling rate button with an "AI button" for Logitech's guaranteed to be shitty AI assistant is one of the dumber things to come out of this.
I'm sure we'll see cool stuff rise up as the hype dies down, right now everyone is just trying things to see what sticks
One step closer to Thor's depiction of Skynut.
Pizza button was good idea tho
Pelmeni button better\
me slaming my keyboard in gamerrage ordering 100 pizza boxex to my house
3 ways ai could fall
1. Ai collapsing via training itself
2. People constantly poisoning Ai models
3. Laws put into place
1.5. Training becomes so computationally expensive it's unsustainable
4. even if AI model outputs were indistinguishable from humans, they can (and WILL) confidently lie about basic facts. Just because a model knows what a fact LOOKS LIKE does NOT mean the output will reflect reality in any way whatsoever.
Luckily for big tech, they're mostly based out of the US, so #3 will never happen.
@@stevethepocket true, but #1, #2 and these additional issues on the reply still exist
This comment comes with AI so it must be good.
But does the AI come with this comment?
You also forgot putting lowercase e and i in front of a company name or product.
I propose countering the remains of that idiocy by deliberately mispronouncing the names of anything that still does it as things like "IP-hone" and "IM-ack".
I opend AutoCAD a few days ago and was met with an AI button, things I don't need and features that just take devs away from features and fixes we can really use.
Smart ricecookers are actually not that bad. You can load different recipes (like yoghurt) into them while keeping the on device buttons easy and straightforward.
Everyone: "Putting AI in everything is dumb and a pointless gimmick."
Shareholders: "I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that."
On the note of the g600, I have it, it's just a really nice mouse in trouble, I think the default bindings are to just have the side buttons all down to the numpad. And plenty of games just have functions bound to the number keys that are really nice to have at a quick access, I would recommend it to anyone who wants a good mouse
4:00 replaceable battery is in fact better than integrated one.. as long as form factor is not a problem, and its a mouse ...so no problem.
I can imagine myself getting extremely annoyed when I accidentally hit the Copilot key
I am still incredibly disappointed that MS didn't actually make a new button for the Office key like they did the Windows key and app menu key.
I like the comparison between the smart device times and the current AI apocalypse. It literally feels the same lol. Like with the smart devices, there is some use for AI, but (like with the smart devices) it's name gets smashed onto everything rn
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“Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.”
Bixby button.
IT DOES NOTHING. IT CANNOT BE REPROGRAMMED.
not like Logitech isn't making money from selling mice which you need to replace every damn year because the primary buttons keep dying or the mousewheel starts to act weird the second the warranty period ends
Depends on what you buy.
I have been using the M570 for 5 years and it is still good, same goes for my two Roccat mice
Office key? Never seen.
But: I only use Fujitsu keyboards right now.
In private as well as on the job.
Not even my first gen corsair K70 without RGB has such a key. (Okay, that thing is quite old, from a time, where my Logitech G9x was brand new...)
Oh great, they rediscovered the shitty internet button from mobile phones in the early 2000s. Just more shAIt.
Logitech probably thought there are people who don’t know about the configurable mouse’s, but would want a button for ai on theirs.
I’m not sure if there is a segment for this.
7:19 I use that same mouse! The extra top button (by default) actually gives you a different set of hotkeys while held! Not only that, but the left right and middle click can all be rebound, and there are another two buttons by pushing the scroll wheel left or right. EVEN FURTHER, you can bind a button to use "Onboard Profile Cycle" to cycle between 3 sets of everything above.
So, that's 19 buttons (not including one used to shift), multiply by 2 for the shift to get 38, subtract 1 for the profile cycle, then multiply by 3 for the three profiles, for a grand total of 111 different binds which can all be stored entirely on the mouse without having to keep logitech's app running :)
A smart golf ball might make sense. Put a radio transmitter in it, then you can use a radio to triangulate it's position.
They're probably not tournament legal but for fun do whatever you want
Sounds like an engineering nightmare. A few whacks and all the solder joints will crack. Oh, and it's got to be waterprooft, so you can find it in a water trap, too.
All the AI stuff aside, I kind of prefer putting a AA or AAA battery in my mouse as opposed to having a non replaceable perishable battery sealed inside.
this are the multimedia keys all over again
Thx for letting me know that this is actually my favorite AI Vtuber channel, was confused
7:23 I have the same G600 mouse. I think there's 3 buttons you missed: you can push the wheel in (often refereed to as a middle click) and tilt it left and right
A year ago I saw an electric toothbrush with "AI" logo onto the box. I then understood this is the new Buzzword of this phase.
I have always liked Logitech mice, but I have zero use for a mouse with an AI button, especially because I have no use for AI.
just wait till Samsung puts a AI button on there phones, oh they got rid of it already it was called a bixby button
How I know Brodie is real:
He makes way too much sense.
I can see the use of quick launch ai buttons because many don't understand that or how they could reprogram buttons. But the prompt builder will probably almost not be used and I think most will appreciate the Copilot key on the keyboard more, unless they are mad because of another key gone missing. I still remember when the Windows key was something new and many thought it was useless or stupid. But I think it is kind of super, still.
I had to explain this shit to my parents who thought actual "AI" was taking over our lives. I had to explain that almost always when they hear "AI", it's not even true AI and that it's just a word being used to push cheap products.
You know how in the Portal franchise it's played for laughs that all Aperature Science devices are unnecessarily sentient?
There are no G-class mice in the left column Brodie ;)
Logitech got a whole Brodie advertisement for their key mapping solution out of relabeling a button on a base level mouse.
My favourite part: it just goes to openai site and types in ehat you gave it, except its just a bit easier by selecting. I do like it though as an option
Next AI product:
Make your Dog into an AI dog! The Logitech AI smart dog collar will get your pooch noticed! AI and your dog together: what a combination! Put the AI wow into the bow wow. 99 dollars 99 exclusive offer! hurry! Your dog will love you for it.
What they really need to do is release a keyboard with all those missing F-keys
cant wait for my sketch digitisers to suddenly need to be ai powered because even pen and paper will need ai
"LLM running on a washing machine just in case it cannot connect to a device with apropriate hardware."
I saw this in my emails from Logitech and was wondering if anyone was going to cover this tbh xD
Always happens, tech advancements never come at the speed that publicly traded companies and venture capitalist startups need to look like they're growing at. They will always inflate the expected impact of any innovation, and anxiety of being left behind drives the average tech illiterate tech consumer which the manufacturers and marketing departments have to capitalize on or else their competition will.
Oh wow replacing my forward and backward buttons as well as a dedicated middle mouse button with something I won't even use. Very cool.
Brodie is clearly too young to know about the Radio Shack :CueCat (yes, the official name has a leading colon).
The only use I have for "AI" is driving NPC speech/activities in Elder Scrolls 6. Not in my car, not in my OS, not in my TV.
Shift+Ctrl+Win+Alt emulates the hyper key which isn't on keyboards anymore. It exists because of backwards compatibility. This new key is essentially the hyper key in disguise.
I'm definitely not happy about cpu wattage going to a built in NPU that will only be used for little parlor tricks in windows. It's the helper hippo basically but with dedicated silicon space.
Yep complete garbage
A shortcut for Logitech to datamine my AI info? SO SMART!!!!!
Did you know Logitech makes some of the best mice's in the world?
Logitech: Really!? well... i wont stand for that, someone should do something about it.
Also, this is like the "Tubro" trend from back in the 80's in which EVERYTHING needed to say turbo on it. You had Turbo powered refrigerators, and turbo powered toasters and of course, your very own "Turbo" button on your desktop.
AI doesn't sound or look like an Australian! So clearly Brody can't be AI.
Also this trend will end in time. We will just have to suffer for the duration like with every trend that came before.
I've never heard of this so-called "Office key" but it reminds me when MS introduced the "Windows key" -- it's admittedly convenient to have a dedicated "menu" key, but calling it the "Windows" key was, and _still_ comes across as overly pretentious.
If you're not solving a problem, you're creating one.
GHub has made me despise Logitech forever
Most Google partner phones have had to have Google Assistant buttons for several years now... I've never ever used that button intentionally, and it's actually hard to set it up to do anything else.
They should add an AnyKey, it would be more useful. Plenty of software and games ask for it all the time.
That would press a random key during writing, fire a random weapon in FPS, build a random unit in RTS ...
funny story but i've always thought Logitech is Ai made company from start, they're kinda not existed-no physical address (i've tried finding their HQ), support to get some parts are very hard to do because you're talking with mailbox only. Kinda like they hiring designers and outsourcing, but who is owner, the creator of products is a mystery. Computer is owner?
It's just those dumb "multimedia" keyboards and multimedia everything else all over again from 30 and a bit years ago.
"AI Mouse"
Oh cool, it uses AI to compensate the cursor jumping around from bad wireless conn-
"ChatGPT shortcut" "AI prompt builder"
😐
I am getting sick of this entire AI buzz. Soon my friggin turd gonna have AI in it.
I hate the modern internet so much.
I swear, I can find a single app, website or program anymore that doesn't require make a new account, isn't all but useless withoit paying some b.s. subscription, and overflowing with a million useless and convoluted "features" that do noting but get in the way.
I needed a note card app for school the other day. I had to dig through half a dozen apps with b.s. AI integration, paid accounts and bullsh*t "pro features" just to find a freaking digtial notecard that was halfway useable.
These modern executives ....
love the double a mice ngl, they last much much longer and their battery wont wear out and be stuck inside
Gee, I'd really *like* an AI mouse---that runs AI locally on the mouse. All the data, all the processing, even anonymized searching through a VPN. A little USB C dongle w/a USB A adapter & even a 2011 Dell laptop becomes a world domination machine. For $50 more it could virtual machines w/ multiple OS's.
It's most likely made for folks who aren't very tech literate. You would be quite surprised. Having a dedicated button for it might make sense for a certain market (in the sense that having an AI button makes sense at all).
An extra special key could be nice, for both kb and mouse, a real special key tho, it would probably break stuff. A key that is just a combo of other is just bloat. I couldn’t figure out why Logitech put the emoji button on their mice, it was a selling point too tho, it’s like they were heading that way
it comes preconfigured with ai prompt!, since most logi devices cant remember the changes you set it to in the app without the app.
Sounds like a bubble and every company whose value is derived from AI tech will have a large correction eventually.
Wait until CPU caches and frequencies go down and cpu prices go up justified by replacing regular general purpose compute with "AI" functionality. Will it make gcc compile faster? Will it make Gnome snappy? Will we get more FPS? Hell no. That shit is going to sit there unused except on proprietary operating systems where it will be used to build profiles of consumers for marketing companies. And the uneducated masses won't appreciate that half their silicon has been changed from cache to some useless shit they don't need or want and the rest of us won't have any options.
The price of Model M keyboards just shot up again
Smart golf ball sounds like a good idea. You could find you ball if you loose it.
I can't imagine they're tournament legal but for fun do whatever you want