6 Common Perspective Mistakes (and how to fix them 🔧)
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2024
- 📚 KIM JUNG GI: Sketchbook
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After a quick (less than one minute!) reminder of what perspective is, I’ll show you the 6 most common mistakes artists make and how to fix them. Hope you will enjoy this video!
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⌚ Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:12 What is perspective
01:12 1: No converging grid line
02:31 2: No measuring
05:12 3: Not using a grid
07:29 4: Vanishing points too close
09:15 5: No depth
10:27 6: Starting with the end
12:44 Kim Jung Gi Sketchbook
13:02 Outro
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I was able to meet kim jung gi when he did a live drawing session in my city. It was amazing. Still cant believe he's gone, but his legacy and skills will be remembered and referenced for a long long time. Great video!
I drew for many years, but I could not improve my drawing skills as much as I wanted until I took your Domestika course. I took this course and my drawing skills improved rapidly. I came here when I saw the link to your CZcams account in class and every video of yours is worth gold to me. I've had some problems with drawing for years, and you explained them so clearly that I almost solved most of them. I'm waiting forward to your new videos. I'm really grateful. You are the best teacher for me! 🕺
The part where you talk about seeing a cool art and being inspired to do something similar was super relatable to me, I even started to avoid looking to others drawings because when I see someone that is super skilled, I get inspired to study more and do things like the person, but at the same time that's bad because I tend to stoo drawing just for fun and start studying only because I get too anxious to get good
I love how much you reference Kim Jung Gi in your videos. Great for people who don't want to spend hours watching Gi's livestreams to get a small piece of information on perspective.
Anyway, isn't 5 point perspective (basically fish lens) how people see? I always thought 3 point perspective is the closest to human eyes, but after redrawing some of Kim Jung Gi's drawings (using a grid) i can't "unsee" the bending of straight objects into vanishing points on sides of my sight.
Thanks for noticing. And unfortunately we don’t have a fish eye lens. We have human lenses.
Not to get too technical but a fish eye lenses are around 10mm and human lenses are around 22mm.
So the fact you see a bending of objects is normal. But it’s way less (2x less) extreme as fish do. Imagine being a fish in a round fishbowl. I would wanna kill myself. The whole world everything is rounded. But then you’d have a 2 min memory and forget it and be reminded your crazy. Every. Two. Minutes.
Just thinking about it is horrifying.
Love the way you do your videos as always.
super helpful! Thank you for this video
Great explanation, Thank you! It made perspective easy to understand and fun! well done 👏
This is a great video. Thank you for posting.
love your videos , i'm actually a 3d character artist and i never thought about drawing but i started my journey of learning it few month ago thanks to you , thank you very much ! i really appreciate how you see things and how to approach drawings .
Great stuff!!! Thank you 😊
This is the one area I do struggle with, getting perspective right. I'm getting ready to start a new painting this week, this video is fairly informative and helpful
Thks for the great video! ❤
Big THANK YOU ❤ I LEARN much
Thank you so much Alex. Much love from Philippines!
Thank you so muchhhh❤
We need more videos from you about perspective mistakes
Nice video again Alex!
Maaaan I love your explanations. As expected of a psych major. Keep being excellent, good man.
Got my notes on this vid completed. Time to put it into practice 👍
So good thankyou plz keep it up love your videos ❤🙏
At 7:29, you say that 2-point vanish points belong in certain areas. I think if you check, you will find that any area is OK. The key is not an area, but making sure you 2-point vanishing points are 90 degrees apart when measuring from the station point.
I'm doing a children learning book and was trying to draw things for it and I wondered if my perspective was right... And I ended up searching videos on how to detect false perspectives and mistakes, and then found your video ! First, thank you for doing it ! Second, it was very interesting and made me less stressed about my drawings, also made me understand alot of things in a very short time, and I needed it ! Thanks alot and keep your good work ☺
At 2:50, you implied that you should not have many vanish points on the same drawing. What about a drawing representing a room in 1-point perspective with 10 books spread over the floor and none of the book edges parallel. This is like a student doing research or a library after an earthquake. So how do you draw rectangular prism like shapes that are not parallel with on 1 or 2 vanishing points?
Guy, just amazing video. Very useful insights. Not just about drawings, but how to "think" correctly and be more confident, and obviously, be more happy with own work.
Thanks very much!
Thanks for letting me know ❤ always happy to share
When an object rotates it has different vanishing points related to the horizon line, only objects that are parallel to each other have the same vanishing points. If objects are all on the ground plane or parallel to it, they have the same horizon line, but when they aren't parallel to ground plane, well that changes.
And if the ground plane is inclined/tilted, the objects at that plane have different horizon line that the objects on the not tilted ground plane.
great video! I have HOPE again. ;) Thank you.
I have those games, still to this day. Thank you for making my life happy, at least for a short time.
Thank you for this vídeo.
I approach it like so. I recognize it being there but i tend to eye out most stuff i tend to repeat alot and have sort of a pattern for it. But when i want to emphasise something, like extending arm etc, i use vanishing point where i need it.
Good insights
Stanley Kubrick 2001 ! omg I use to have those pictures I cut out from a movie picture book . I saw it the day it came out in Seattle . Saw it many times . Loved the pics and put them on my bedroom walls ❤ as a teenager . I never realized this one point perspective fact of his filmmaking till now ! 😮Thank You 😮
You saved my lifeeeee Hahaha! Thank yoouuu ❤
Very good ❤
You know...I think this is the 5th time I have seen your video, but I think this is the first time I stopped and actually watched it. Not cherry pick, not skip around...but listen. That last bit about mistakes in step 6, hits hard.
thanks for giving me some *perspective* on where i need to focus my skills. ;) lol. for real tho, i appreciate the heck out of the way you present this.
Thank you so much for all the effort and love you put into your lessons and all the inspiration you‘re sharing here Alex! ❤
Missing Jung Gi so much, it hurts.
Thanks, glad to be of service
dude amazing video as always. wait was worth it and comes in handy now that i recently decided to practice perspective for three months stiaght daily lol
Oh my I’ve been there. Good luck to you
Thanks, can you show us how to make those perspective grids.
Dr. Draw, I picked up Space Drawing by Dongho Kin from Superani. It seems good but I am a noob at perspective and have been at a standstill lately with complex perspective using the fisheye.
why is this emotional 😆😭🤧
Thank you for your video on perspective! It helped a lot. I can also recommend the books by David Chelsea! The second one on perspective is mind boggling lol.
You sound a bit Dutch, is that correct? Groetjes!
I have been working EVERY DAY to solve these mysteries. i used to have no idea how to use the grid options in my drawing program (Krita) because it takes so much time. in krita, i started using the freehand path tool and it saves alot of time and im able to relax while drawing. my back hurts from using the brush tool,😂. Also I was wondering if Anime in particular uses mostly the two point perspective. can isometic perspective be used to get a feel for the landscape of the drawing and/or is it for the convenience of not having to measure everything??
I love your video and I have give me more skills
Happy to read that!
DUNGEON MAGIC!!
This is a really helpful video, but I would disagree with you on that point of telling people not to try to make huge art pieces until they're good at it. Lots of people are doing art for non-professional purposes, and want to develop better skills, and have fun doing it. Trying out a large scale piece and experimenting with perspective could have a lot of value for them, regardless of how good that person is at using art skills.
Great one, Alex! Thanks for sharing. Do you have any video on having perspective outside of the horizon line? I sometimes want to include "flying/falling" things in my illustrations and those in general are not following the horizon line in terms of perspective, but I don't ever manage to get it right. I even thought it was going to be one of the mistakes ("think that everything should converge to the horizon line"), so maybe there's another topic to tackle? Have a great day, bud!
I totally know what you mean. But honestly, you should think in terms of perspective but in terms of dynamic poses.
@@thedrDraw right! Now that you mention dynamic poses, I thought about how you use basic shapes to build a body, an arm, if you do a stretched cube, it rarely is pointing to the horizon line.
But if I want to construct that properly, I wouldn't know how (where to point the parallel lines, ultimately).
give us more lessons sensei
Haha lessons coming up!
@@thedrDraw The response which made my day better :)
my biggest problem with perspective is drawing things that DONT follow the grid lines, my brain just cant comprehend what length and angle to draw the lines at, even for simple boxes.
even the simplest things like a cube mans head tilted downwards to look at the ground, instead of looking straight ahead, is something struggle with immensely. and i genuinely dont understand how to draw those things without ruining the initial perspective
most of the time the result looks like said head is either:
A. looking at a different direction entirely
B. a completely different size/then its supposed to be
C. just not the correct shape
D. all of the above at once
You jumped way too high above your level.
Did you already did practice head, hands, legs and body for you to understand how they are build in perspective?
@@rafsandomierz5313 wdym? im pretty sure drawing full hands is way higher level then drawing cube boxes
On 5:48 , where there is curve perspective in 3 vanishing points. Does curve perspective can be used in 1, 2, 3, 4 point perspectives?
I've seen the tip about lining up the same point of each character on the horizon line before, but I couldn't figure out how to make characters of different heights in perspective. I guess I didn't really think enough about how it works. I guess, in this case, where the feet are placed in the perspective grid would be more important...?
Yeah good one. The ground plane is super important when determining your characters in space.
@@thedrDraw I mean I kind of already knew it but I guess it didn't really click in my conscious mind until I watched this video hahaha😅
once i ve seen a video by a physicist in which he describes how our brain is projecting all the images from every visual perception of objects from 3d into a 2d background.
somehow we all doing it.... but
insight comes from education.
thanx for your video.
The only way to growing = making mistakes.
That's very useful! Anyway, is there any trick for placing the vanishing points outside my sketchbook perimeter? I've quite the difficulty to do it when I use it in my free time xD
hey, a neat trick is placing a pin on the table where the vanishing point is, then you can tie a string to that pin and strech it across the paper to use as a guide line, hope this helps
@@raioh4747 sure I'll try, thanks buddy! Really appreciated!
Can you pls pls pls make a video for 6 boxes with one point perspective? I have 7yr old who stumbled on this project.. I promised I get it dome..but i have zero knowledge on this. I'm a quick learner though. So far I've seen 4 boxes but they want to be like 6 boxes...
In my earlier art lessons.. perspective was given good importance...but many students seldom take it seriously...result,just keep drawing birds,human faces and flowers throughout your life😅
Hello!
I’m looking for livestreams of artists drawing in real time doing construction and blocking out in primitive forms what they’re drawing.
Like everyday objects and vehicles
I wonder if you know someone who has sources of real time livestreams of this? Or if you have streams like that, blocking out in primitive forms?
Thanks!
I just feel like i cant find anything that teaches perspective in a way i understand. Or in a way that’s practical. Its always “put a million lines on the page and that’s perspective” like huh? How do i use it to draw bodies, or objects. I need a step by step comprehensive guide from someone who truly understands how it works.
I see perspective like triangles converging into one point. Essentially just seeing the negative space of the grid instead of the lines.
The longer the base the triangle is, it means I am starting to get below whatever I draw. Just draw it yourself and you'll get what I'm saying here if you don't already.
If the height of the triangle is longer than the base, that means I am starting to look above the thing I am drawing.
If the triangle turns upside down, you're now viewing the bottom of what you're drawing.
Those lines help you to understand where things are going to be in relation to the *vanishing point* just practice it and you will understand what is where.
The bottom lines measures things that are on the ground.
The lines above bottom ones measure things that are above the bottom lines.
The higher the lines are the more highest object will be.
So the more lines are apart from each other the bigger object will be towards your eye and smaller when it goes towards the vanishing point represented by the dots.
"Isometric perspective" is the wrong term. You mean isometric projection. Perspective is just a kind of projection. I also disagree that Isometric projection is as useless. It can help develop imagination. Especially for impossible figures. It can help compose complex scenes in perspective
It was also great for making games back in the day because it gave the illusion of 3d rendering
I personally used it to learn how to paint materials and objects under different lighting schemes.
It is really useful.
A different term maybe, but I wouldn't say "wrong." If you Google isometric perspective you'll see that it is often used for this very thing. Language evolves. If you disagree then when I say "it's a very Richard move of you to try to correct a CZcamsr in their comments because they used the more common term rather than the technical term that you wanted them to use" you wouldn't be offended, right? No one cares if you call a "felis catus" a "housecat" and correcting it won't score you any cool guy points.
@cherubas We could argue over terminology all day, but the bottom line is, it comes to him saying that isometric projection isn’t very useful. When in reality it can be quite useful when you’re first starting out, it gives you a chance to try out different layouts, practicing in a simplistic aerial view makes it easier to comprehend objects in a scene and where they’re placed.
@@vonnie0_0 I think Dr. Draws point was that learning isometric won’t transition much into any “high level” perspective art. If your end goal is to be really good at perspective, isometric is going to be more of a waste of time to learn than anything. All of the things you could learn from isometric you can just learn from doing normal 2 point from the get go. But obviously If you’re actually going to use isometric in your art then go ahead and learn it, I don’t think that’s what he was referring to seeing as the full point of the video is specifically about learning normal multi-point perspective I think he’s just trying to save everyone’s time.
Your head is good example for 3 oint perspective
2:20 not isometric but trimetric view
2:14 is not isometric view. Its is central projection, conical perspective
Its like every year at least a dozen new "art gurus" come out of the woodwork to make a buck on selling knowledge they don't even have. At least have the decency to learn how to actually illustrate before you even attempt teaching others, this is like the first peak of the Dunning-Krueger chart.
A VERY common mistake I see in students is that their vanishing points are not on the horizon, or they have a tilted horizon and their vertical lines are not perpendicular.
Oh good one, true story
waagh i got jumpscared the second i clicked this
how can draw simple shape with out exprince
You need a certain level of experience to be able to use any skill, else it will all be talent. But honestly, drawing isn’t about talent.
I have an exercise for you: Draw boxes, using some dots. You first put dots of the box edges on your paper, then connect the boxes with line. Try as much as possible to use a single stroke.
You can also check this channel’s video on how to draw boxes
there are infinite vanishing points. In a plane, they form the horizon line. In a 3D space, vanishing points form a plane
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9:58 only when the figure is 2 feet taller than the viewer
Oh shit that's true actually. Good observation!
2 days 💀
6:38 what da
How to make animation graphic tutorial like u do..mke ttorial
a like for the intro 😂😂😂
2:18 again is not isometric, oh my good... NOT iso
7:34 It depends if you are looking with ur eyes (50mm focal) or using a camera with another focal... It also depends if vanishing points are of two orthogonal lines in space or not...
....sorry I understood the first 50 secs or so then completely lost about how you make this grid to a vanishing point - is this before you try to draw something. You show the lines on things already drawn - so how do you start to make the lines before you draw? Sorry I really am a beginner and think this video is for people who already understand what you're teaching.
Use a table of contents in your description jeez
Damn your totally right
WoW, that's sad.
What is sad?
@@thedrDraw (If) I had the chance to chat with you, I will share sad 😔 with you.
BTW: the video it self was very helpful, thank you for your time. Job well done, keep drawing and keep smiling.
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art is science. it's physics (light /shadow/colour theory/tone), chemistry (media, paper, paint ect), biology (anatomy) and most-abso-importantly MATHES.
you cannot create art without geometry, trigonometry, perspective and 3D spacial geometry (absolutely different from 2D geometry).
the fallacy of separating science from art and advertising as such is so damaging.
if artists would realize how much science they incorporate in their daily lives, they'd be offended for not being called a scientist.
sincerely, a scientist and an artist
Because of the needless bad word, I cannot use this video with my students. Why can’t you be more clever than that?
Waaaaaah
People like seeing Grind Lines all over drawings? Really-?!
Jup, couldn't believe it as well but it add a sense of process.
@@thedrDraw alright-
how to not suck at perspective: don't do them. don't even need to watch the video.
You lost me when you dropped the “F” bomb. So unnecessary.
Bummer! I never use a lot of profanity. It's a shame it hits you so hard.