Tempest Koi filter review conclusions (final video)
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2024
- Welcome to the final part in the series of videos on the evolution aqua tempest filter. In this video a go through my (now 6 months) with the filter and summaries all the pros and cons I've found.
I've had the filter in cold winter months, through spring, and in to summer. I've had it through blanket weed, green water and flukes. Little feeding and heavy feeding.
If you are considering buying one this is the video to help you decide. I have no affiliation with EA, nothing to gain or lose from what I say in the review. I'm just a UK hobbyist who was lucky enough to get hold of one for testing before they even became available to buy through a friend of mine, Tim Waddington, at Quality Nishikigoi.
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Hi mate, great video. I'm in the planning stage of my pond and learning so much from your video feeds. Great work thanks.
Cheers Pete, good to hear mate, much appreciated 👍👍👍
Another great video mate thanks for the review I’m going to be adding one to my setup when I have it up and running.
Thanks mate, I think you'll be really pleased with it. Let me know how it goes 👍👍👍
Great video explaining the Tempest I wouldn’t be without mine.
An off the shelf piece of kit worth every penny for the convenience.
Keep up the good work pal.
Thanks Mark, and good to hear you are happy with it to 👍👍🍻👍👍
Well done Daz 👏 absolutely brilliant video thanks 🐟😎👍🏼
You are a joy to watch. Keep up the great work and take care 🐟😎👍🏼
Cheers mate, I really do appreciate that, look after yourself 🍻🍻🍻🍻
@@DazzleKoi cheers mate you too 👍
Another good video mate, clear and informative 👍
Thanks Andy, much appreciated 🍻🍻
Thanks Darren for passing your knowledge onto the community appreciated Simon 👏👏👍
Thanks very much Simon 🍻🍻👍👍🍻🍻
Very informative video as usual daz 👍
Cheers Clayton, all the best mate 🍻🍻👍🍻🍻
Good honest review as per, cheers daz👍
Thanks Richard 🍻👍🍻
Hi Daz Thanks For Showing not ready for one of these yet still in the process of building my pond but will keep this in mind when building my filter house 👍
Cheers mate, yes definitely worth consideration 👍👍👍
Nice vid I agree with your findings Daz well done.
Thanks Dave 👍👍🍻👍👍
Another excellent video Darren. If you are recommending it then people can trust that it's good. I built my own but that wasn't because I thought I could improve on what EA have done. I just prefer the DIY side of things. I dont get to clean mine every day. What with work, creating video's and catching up with my favourite creators I just dont get time. Mine gets done every 3 to 4 days. And it is impressive what it catches. They are also so easy to clean.
Thanks mate, sounds good. Yeah I agree the ease of cleaning is a big positive. As its even easier to clean than the Pod I've even considered running just two tempests and removing the Pod to see how it goes. Two Tempests is toughly the same price as one Pod.
Good info matey thanks for sharing 👍👍👍
Cheers Andy 🍻🍻
Hi Daz I love my tempest and so happy that I've got one .. its so easy to clean.. I do mine every day or I might leave it a day .. it does a great job and can't fault .. I'm still using the air pump trick to help flush mine as my waist pipe is 7 meters long so the helps push the water to the drain. Happy days Daz
Hi mate, sorry for the delay in replying, I've been away on holiday, Happy days indeed, good to hear you are seeing the same results I get from mine 🍻👍👍🍻
Enjoyed watching the Tempest review videos, thought you did a great job. Tell me you managed to keep the filter afterwards ? Look forward to seeing more content and reviews
Hi Nick, yes mate, I've still got it. Tim did say they told him I could keep hold of it 😁😁
Excellent review and content mate, let’s not forget EA didn’t magic the filter out of thin air, it was designed and engineered, good price for a great product 👍👌
Very true Gareth, a lot of research and development goes in to these things and it all costs money
Thanks for the update Dazzle koi.
I’m in serious need of re-thinking my filtration as I had a go at a DIY system when I built my pond. Parameters wise I’m absolutely spot on but really need to combat the mechanical side of things.
I’m pump fed via a DIY retro fit bottom drain and thinking of adding 2 of these as I’m running 12k an hour pump and having them before my large bio chamber
Hi Scott, the trick with mechanically filtration is you need to be able to easily flush it out so that it can be done very regularly, I do mine every day. This is often where home made system fall down.
The issue you will have is the tempest is only designed for 5000 litres an hour optimum and up to 7500 litres an hour max so you may struggle to use them on your system.
Crystal clear explanation (pardon the pun) as always: thanks!
haha , Thanks Richard 👍🍻👍
Absolutely agree with your points about flushing daily, if it's in the filter it's in the pond as far as I'm concerned. Nexus 300, sieve and micro k1/bead are flushed/cleaned daily on my pond.
Sounds good mate, your koi will definitely thank you for that. I've got a video about how often filters need cleaning. It should be up soon 🍻🍻🍻
Great review and video as always buddy very interesting and its a no brainer as far as i'm concerned it would enhance any pond filtration .
Cheers Mark, yes I agree. Its hard to imagine any setup that wouldn't be better with one on. Its just the issue of fitting one in with a pump fed filter that is an issue 👍
Thanks for the review great video. Wondered if you could do a video about your jump guards and the pros and cons of having them.
Thanks Adam, yes I can add that to the list mate, no problem 👍👍
Great info Daz, I need to see if I can fit one on my filter return…
Cheers Rex, that's where mine is and it does a great job 🍻👍🍻
Hi mate , I m able to give some info on putting one of these on pump fed system as its what i have had to do , you are correct about having to clean daily but , as you say , its easy to do so not an issue . Im very happy with this purchase ,water started to improve on clarity in just a couple of days and is now crystal , in fact the main filter ,which is a multi bay , is so much cleaner ive been able to take brushes out and put in more bio media .
The only problem I have , which im working to solve , is bits of blanketweed caught in bottom grill . So if any one was wondering about putting on pump fed i would say its fine but need to flush daily .
Cheers mate, that's really good to hear from someone who's done it. They really do seem to be very versatile. I've even wondered about whether two Tempests would be a better option than a Pod and a Tempest on my system. First one would get a lot of crap but I flush them daily anyway. And the shower has plenty bio
Thanks for update I’ve been thinking about one for my 300g QT/grow on tank and with your and Tim Waddingtons endorsement I will order one. For £250 I think it’s reasonable in the koi filters ranges are these the same that talk about drum prices. Totally agree about asking online I’ve even been advised to put a nexus 300 on my 300g tank online!!!!!!!
Hi mate, I think it would be brilliant for that. Let me know how it goes if you do get one, I'd be interested to hear from someone who's used one in that way 🍻🍻
Hi Daz, Good review and agree with most. Only criticism I have with my Tempest is if its not kept inside the engrained algae is almost impossible to keep on top off when kept outside with the clear tube.
Agree, review excellent. On algae buildup when outside, as mine is, I have a small fish tank magnet glass cleaner, with the inside one tied to a thin nylon thread for when it becomes disconnected. I spend a minute a week when I flush cleaning the tube.
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Lea valley koi : I know what you mean about algea but i made a jacket for mine and stopped it
Hi mate, I haven't used mine outside but I have seen them go green when they are. It wouldn't really worry me I don't think but I know a lot don't like it. I just think, compared to a bead for example, which you never get to see inside, its still got to be better. Maybe a black option or some kind of insulated jacket is needed
Nice idea mate 👍👍
Hi Darren fantastic video, I only started keeping koi last year ,followed your channel and just love your channel, I hope your feeling better mate I've been there myself not nice.
OK I bought the eazy pod on your recommendation, is the tempest easy to set up next to it?
Hi mate and thank you very much 🍻🍻🍻
Are you pump fed or gravity?
Hi Daz. I'm very interested in putting one of these on my system. Just because of space/logistics Is it possible to fit one between the skimmer and the pump so that water is pulled through rather than pushed through? Another great video.
Hi Suzy, unfortunately not. It needs to be sited such that water is pushed through from the bottom upwards. Can you not fit it anywhere after the pump at all?
Brill review video on the tempest mate. I am going to fit one on my skimmer. Which will be pumped to a blade and then tee off to the tempest. Going to fit a value to the blade so I can turn it of and controll the flow has well. And in the winter when the blade is off it can still flow to the Tempest .And a value just before the tempest so I can control the flow rate which will return to a high underwater returns 👍
Hi Andrew, sounds good mate, you should see good results from that I reckon. The ease with which these can be flushed is a massive plus point for me which I don't think I stressed in the video 👍👍
Hi Darren, looking at starting my first koi pond build soon and have working my way through your videos which have been great and very informative!
Just a quick one, I was looking at getting the eazypod air to filter. The tempest wouldn’t be a cheaper option to use by itself? Guessing it’s mainly been designed for extra filtration? Pond will be approx 3,500L
Cheers!
Hi Dave, in theory the tempest could work on its own but it would be a very small pond that it could handle. If you can, I would pick up a second hand eazy pod, there are always loads of bargains to be had, and then add the tempest to the system later. They work brilliantly together.
All I'm going too say, It's great when it's on my system. Awaiting 3rd bottom part...
Hi mate, sounds like you are having a nightmare. It must be very frustrating to say the least. Is it this issue with the pipe splitting?
@@DazzleKoi had the original white piped one started leaking a bit so heard there was a modified one.
Went back through dealer for the modified one that leaked through bottom plate and welled up through the screw bit above handle, next one sent leaked through bottom plate again.
And finally 3rd one sent by EA fingers crossed (it's stood off system full of water leak test) hasn't done it so far giving it a few more days.
Not knocking it as I thought it was great just a pain.
Hi mate, sorry for the delay in replying, I've been away on holiday, how are you getting on with number three??
@@DazzleKoi 3rd time lucky I think, fingers crossed. been back on system 5 days no leaks so .
Hi Darren, trying to squeeze one into my set up, I’m gravity fed 5000l and have 2 options, either easy pod then pump then tempest then UV and return to pond or skimmer then pump then tempest then bakki shower and return to pond, you’re advice is much appreciated
Hi Matt, sorry for the delay in replying, I've been away on holiday, if it where me I would definitely put it after the Pod. It will see much more mechanical waste there and do a better job for you. I would keep the skimmer line with a bigger pump and push more water over the shower than the Tempest would be able to handle.
Good review. Every man n his koi has made one of these since the EA unit came out so the science behind them must work. I've noticed that ppl like to take a dig at EA too so its probably one of the reasons too that ppl had a winge about them
Hi mate, yeah they do come in for a fair bit of stick. I think they had a period in the past where there customer service wasn't great so its probably a hang over from that. Can't argue they make some good kit though and they sell in big numbers.
@@DazzleKoi yeah i love my nexus 220 n k1 bead. N they are fairly local to u n me (heysham)
Hi mate, and sorry for the delay, I've been away on holiday. They are close to me to, I'm in St Helens, I've often wondered about calling and see if I can get a look round, I'd love to see how stuffs made.
@@DazzleKoi Im sure they'd let you if you tell them about your channel n how its growing. N its free publicity for them too 👍🐟 would be a good vid. Hope u had a nice hol n wernt too worried about leaving the pond.
I've thought about that actually but I don't really want to get to close if that makes sense. I don't want to build up a relationship as the next EA product I review might be rubbish and I want to be able to say that without worrying about upsetting anyone. People already accuse me of being 'in bed with EA' so I have to try and keep my distance so as not to feed the trolls. Its sad but that's how it is these days.
I think that would be a great video though, maybe it would be better coming from Tim at Quality Nishikigoi.
Yes thanks mate, holiday was brilliant. We went around Cornwall in our little camper van. My daughter looked after the pond so it was in safe hands 👍👍
Hi , great video great explanation. Can I ask , currently I’m running a system that goes through a uv then to a eazy pod then passed through a moving bed , I want to fit a shower would I need an additional pump or will it feed off the same variable flow 10000 pump. The pond is currently pump fed. Thank you again. How’s the auto feeder going ?
Hi Neil, the autofeeder is still going well mate, I'm rather pleased with it so far still 👍👍
How do you return water to your system? It sounds like you may need another pump but it may be possible.
@@DazzleKoi it’s pump fed , I’m afraid.
Hi mate, and sorry for the delay, I've been away on holiday. Yeah it does sound like you need a second pump for the shower. On the plus side though you can get a really high flow pump and a nice wide shower so you will get great benefit from it.
Another fantastic video....I have a pump fed one from a retro bottom drain going into my UV then eazypod...with this set up my tube isn't as clear as yours and a lot more bigger particles.. however I do have a lot of small flies in there so all is good.. clean the whole system every day... have you seen the idea of placing a beer filter in the centre of the pod to catch more fines? I've just done it and is working a treat.
Hi Andrew, I have yes, to be honest I don't really like the idea of something that could block and cause water starvation or overflowing. To be honest I'm really happy with my clarity to so its not for me but I have heard people have good success with them.
It might be interesting to just try one though and see if it catches anything.
@@DazzleKoi ...yeah I felt the same about it blocking up. But as like yourself I clean the filter everyday it's been very minimal and interesting to see what is caught in there.
Good stuff mate, I'm sure it will be fine, its just me overthinking as usual 😁😁
Great factual review, thanks. As you no doubt know many people are building their own DIY version of the Tempest. Knowing what you know now having had a Tempest for 6 months, would have built your own if you didn't have an original version. As an aside I noticed your Fishmate P7000 was no longer on your pond. Wondering why? Cheers.
Hi mate, I would buy a tempest if I didn't have this one. I'm lazy these days and I just don't have time to make things myself anymore. I've also seen the costs for the correct diameter acrylic and when you add in media, valves, pipework, a system for cleaning it etc I don't think its easy to make one that works as well for any less money and then you have no warranty or support. I've seen some good home made ones so it is definitely possible, just not for me.
Good spot with the feeder, I honestly can't remember why it isn't there when I filmed this as its still going strong and I'm still really happy with it. Only thing I can think of is I took it off to fill it up.
Got a video of the koi at the national show coming shortly and its there on that one 👍👍👍
@@DazzleKoi I understand. I've priced out and tried to source out some of the parts necessary to DIY one and the costs are prohibitive and finding parts here in Canada almost impossible. Only down side with the Tempest is that it is designed for smaller ponds (max 1320 US gal) and my pond is 5000 US gal. I would need 4 of them on my pond based on EA specs putting purchase out of the question. Glad yours is working well though. Cheers.
Hi mate, and sorry for the delay, I've been away on holiday. Yeah its not really an option for sole filtration on a pond of your size. Its more suited as an addition to take a fines and polish the water really. If you can add one to your existing system you will see good benefit and it has the added bonus of being there ready to go if you need a quarantine filter or hospital tank filter.
Is it possible to run a tempest directly from a skimmer but put the pump on a timer as to turn off when the auto feeder comes on. Just for a few minutes to stop food going down the skimmer. Great channel sir.
Hi mate, sorry for the delay in replying to you, I've been away on holiday.
Yes I don't see why not. It wont harm any good bacteria in the tempest to be off for 5 minutes or so.
Hi Darrel, I have gone for a shower and managed to pick up a second hand 3 tier shower 705mm wide X 377mm deep x 838mm high. What depth of media is best?? Thanks in advance
Hello mate, its hard to say without seeing it but you want to try to keep a good 3 or 4 inches drop from the bottom of one tray to the top of the next if possible. Beyond that just fill em with as much as they will take 👍
@@DazzleKoi many thanks
Hi Darrel, I have a multi-bay filter which is giving stable water parameters but I'm not happy with water clarity. Would you recommend Tempest or shower as an addition
Hi David, a shower brings a lot of benefits and I would always recommend a shower if you can.
However, given that your issue here is water clarity, the tempest is the one, out of those two options, that will address this problem. they are a brilliant polishing filter to remove very fine mechanical waste from your pond 👍👍
@@DazzleKoi Hi Darrel, I have gone for a shower and managed to pick up a second hand 3 tier shower 705mm wide X 377mm deep x 838mm high. What depth of media is best?? Thanks in advance
Hi David, I would always put in as much as you can without reducing the gap from the bottom of one tray to the top of the next to much. Try to keep at least 3 or 4 inches gap if possible.
Hi Darren. What's your thoughts on these tempest filters returning back to the pond though a underwater return in the pond wall as I've asked other well known youtube ers and not had a reply.. I also found it strange that EA are avoiding having that as an example in the booklet? All of their set up examples are returning above water 😕
I'd also like too know that question aswell , i think its pressurised so it should work underwater
Hi Jason, I don't see any issue at all returning under water. It makes it more difficult to get the flow correct but not impossible.
Hi Darren thanks for the reply. I was on the fence with buying this I really thought at first it was just a gimmick but I was wrong and so glad I got one. It's unbelievable how much dirt it collects I've got it running after a leaf basket on a skimmer line and totally agree with what you said sometimes it's not about the money when it's adding performance to getting clear water. I had to take mine off for a week to do some changes to my filter house and couldn't believe the difference in the clarity of the water and then was shocked at how much dirt it collected after putting it back on. 👍
Hi Jason, and sorry for the delay, I've been away on holiday. Its a worry when I say something works well because if someone buys something on the strength of my comments and then they don't have the same positive results it comes back on me. So its great to hear you are happy with it to 👍👍🍻🍻👍👍
Completely agree with you mate I run mine on my skimmer line and it works an absolute treat. Unfortunately mine is one of the ones with a leaking air line. Any advice on how to get Evo Aqua to replace it? Love your channel mate I bought my easy pod and tempest off the strength of your reviews and they proved to be completely actuate. Priceless knowledge for anyone getting into the hobby.
Thanks Steve, that's good to hear 👍👍
I haven't done it but I believe if you just get in contact with EA they will send you a replacement.
@@DazzleKoi Cant thank you enough I’ve emailed them they are sending the replacement straight away. Great service from evolution aqua and yet another Priceless Pearl of wisdom from Dazzle Koi 😉👍
Hi mate, and sorry for the delay, I've been away on holiday. Thats good to hear. Did the replacement turn up ok?
@@DazzleKoiTurned up the next day, all up and working now. The replacement seems a little more robust. Hope ya enjoyed ya holidays buddy can’t wait to see the Japanese Garden.
Cheers Steven, that's reassuring, good to know they will sort it if anyone ever has an issue with it 👍👍👍
Hopefully get to the garden video this week.
Hi Darren ,I wonder if you could help me I'm looking at your video on the Tempest and noticed that you have got Perspex on the top of your pond and the Chrome holders that hold it in place could you please tell me where you got them from and what they are called , Because I am looking to do a similar thing to My pond Please get back to me thanks Dennis.
Hi Dennis, It is glass around the top of the pond. They are just pieces of 8 or 10mm glass (mine are not toughened but you can toughen then if you want) from any local glass merchant.
The posts came from ebay, have a good search around as there are lots of different prices for the same things. Something like these www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124650340926?hash=item1d05bd423e:g:WnoAAOSwQfxgWwvd
Great review mate I’ve a question if you don’t mind my pond has got a lot of white build up on the liner as if it’s been painted white chalky look it’s under cover so I get no algae any ideas what this could be. Thanks
Hi Chris, I haven't any experience of white build up if I'm honest mate. Can it be lime scale? Do you have very hard water, high pH?
@@DazzleKoi yes it’s very hard water I was thinking of getting a big blue as I’ve only got a 2 stage filter so wonder if that would get rid of a lot of the hardness in the water. Thanks for reply
Hi Chris, most of them wont soften the water, no. You need the ion exchange for that. The best option really is probably RO but its a lot of hassle. Have a read of this thread for some good advice on 2/3 stage filters.
www.koiforum.uk/water-treatment-protein-skimmers-filtration/23707-water-purifiers-dechlorinators-info-ideas.html
Love the cladding , where did you purchase this ?
Hi mate, sorry for the delay in replying, I've been away on holiday, it is this stuff here 👍👍
mrs-stone-store.com/natural-stone-tiles/mo101/eco-black-split-face-slate-tile-600x150x8-20-maxi/
@@DazzleKoi cheers for that info mate , just nearing the end of
My second pond build at mo and fitting a tempest aswell !
Sounds good mate, I find the finishing touches the hardest as I loose motivation once the water goes in. Will all be worth it in the end 👍👍🍻👍👍
Great video mate, I’m looking at adding one, as my Nexus 220 just isn’t removing the fines. Can you private message me the link we’re you bought your pond tiles from please.
Hi gary, this is the link to the tiles (not sure how to private message you) mrs-stone-store.com/natural-stone-tiles/mo101/eco-black-split-face-slate-tile-600x150x8-20-maxi/
Hi Daz
Do you think it can strip out pond treatments ie flukesolve
Hi Paddy, I don't believe it will, no. Most chemicals are liquids that disperse in the water so once they are in there you wont get them out mechanically. The only thing it may take out is clay but even if it traps particles of clay before they dissolve I think they would still just dissolve up in time as they are still in the water.
@@DazzleKoi Your advice on this point is worth knowing. I treated twice with lernex pro and it did nothing. I then treated with lernex pro twice more but this time I turned the nexus and tempest off for 36 hours and added air and it worked. I was unsure whether it just needed two more treatments or whether turning the filters off made the difference. Judging by your advice maybe it was the former?.
Hi mate, and sorry for the delay, I've been away on holiday. Yes my feeling is that it is the former. I treated for flukes after Christmas and I left everything running and it got rid of them. I used Lernex one week followed by lernex pro 6 days later. I got this tip off a respected koi dealer as apparently they are based on two different chemicals and by using both you cover all possible strains.
Very thorough discussion and conclusion. Glad it wasn't biased as some other reviews can be. Cheers mate
Cheers mate, good to meet you yesterday to. Take care 🍻🍻👍🍻🍻
Nice goshiki
Cheers mate 🍻🍻
Like I said on my video, EA don’t just instantly come up with a product, used in other applications for many years before making it for a pond. Nobody can deny they work, you see it every time you clean the units. We have installed on all filter types and they remove the same amount. Good vid pal, I’m sure I saw some algae on the window????
Sorry, had laptop trouble for a week or so so I've not replied to any comments for a while.
You're probably right about the window, it needs cleaning every few days at the moment.
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How are things going? Is it all up and running and mature yet?
@@DazzleKoi all up and running, water tests all 👌 and fish growing well 👍😊😊
Hi, and sorry for the delay, I've been away on holiday. It sounds like its all coming together now 🥂🥂👍👍🥂🥂
sorry but you cannot talk about a tempest & a drum in the same sentence if you want great filtration moving bed is the answer 5 micron screen ? but a drum is good enough for anyone i would not pay £2.50 let alone £250 sorry moving bed from koi waterlife
Hi Richard, I'm not sure what you mean if I'm honest. Drums don't have 5 micron screens, they are usually around 60 or 70 microns. The tempest filters down much smaller than that. Also, a moving bed is biological filtration and we are talking about mechanical filtration here.
Each to their own, I love drum filters, but £250 is a bargain for the performance you get from a tempest.
@@DazzleKoi nope
some reason you did not get my reply ? stop pushing c**p the short version this is ended.....
I still have absolutely no idea what you are talking about mate, sorry.
I think they are absolutely crap ! Don’t get rid of fines just like my nexus doesn’t.
Over priced crap as far as I’m concerned
Hi Daz, I'm a bit confused as I just watched your video and you say you love the nexus and the tempest does a good job. I've never heard anyone who owns a tempest say they don't perform brilliantly before. The only people I've heard slate them are habitual EA bashers who have never actually used one. If it isn't taking fines out then something is wrong with your setup in my humble opinion.
Its hard to say from just seeing the video but you look to have way too much flow through the tempest. It needs to be 5000 litres an hour for optimum mechanical filtration. You also say you have a 35,000 litre pump on the nexus. Again, way to much if that's correct as optimum is 7500 - 8000 litres. Its no wonder you are pulling fines through if this is correct mate.
Lastly, no filter on the planet will take out fines if you don't put them in to it in the first place. Look at your returns with a pair of stockings over them for a few hours to see if the fines are actually passing through the filters or are not finding their way in to them in the first place.