ARMANI ACQUA DI GIO EAU DE PARFUM VS PROFONDO! 👌 Which Armani Men’s Fragrance Do We Like The Most?

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  • ARMANI ACQUA DI GIO EAU DE PARFUM VS PROFONDO! Which Acqua Di Gio Do men's fragrance do we like the most?
    Find out which of these two Acqua Di Gio men's fragrances I enjoy the most and which one Sandra Solomon Fragrance likes the most!
    Both are aquatic, fresh and marine fragrances for men! Acqua Di Gio EdP is the latest one in the AdG Collection released in 2022. Which of these two fragrances is the better one according to both a man and a woman?
    In this Armani Acqua Di Gio Edp Vs Profondo comparison video, you'll get to hear my thoughts on which fragrance I prefer but also a woman's feedback (Sandra Solomon Fragrance.)
    Which of these two is YOUR Favourite?
    Comment below and let me know! :)
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  • @joeydirty6112
    @joeydirty6112 Před 2 lety +2

    I enjoy the whole line, but don’t have Profondo Lights.
    Waiting for the EDP to arrive!
    Nice review!

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 lety +3

      Thank you!! Hope you enjoy Acqua di Gio Eau De Parfum! I like it a lot! Profondo lights is a nice release for sure.. Might do a comparison between it and the original profondo 😊

  • @chriscampos7217
    @chriscampos7217 Před 2 lety +14

    Love ya'lls take on both Adg fragrances. Ill go with Profondo but will eventually buy Edp.. 😁👍

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 lety +1

      Profondo is nice man! Cant go wrong with any of them really 😊👌

    • @jacobsebastien3910
      @jacobsebastien3910 Před rokem

      I Vote Armani Porfondo For Sure! My Favorite Scent Period 💯

  • @brutusbrown9641
    @brutusbrown9641 Před 5 měsíci +1

    These are my two favorite gym fragrances in the winter and in the warmer temps here in Chicago, i love wearing these through out the day

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 měsíci

      Thanks for sharing! Which of these two Acqua Di Gio fragrances would you choose if you could only keep one? 😉

  • @sullyosullivan7091
    @sullyosullivan7091 Před 2 lety +2

    Class as usual I'm on it.

  • @alonsothebest100
    @alonsothebest100 Před rokem +7

    Profondo is the best, it is perfect for the summer time!!

  • @stuartbarnhill2795
    @stuartbarnhill2795 Před 2 lety +2

    Enjoyed so much from North Carolina USA, GOD BLESS YOU GUYS 🙏❤💯

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 lety

      North Carolina in the house!! Thank you!! Which one of these do you prefer? 😊

    • @stuartbarnhill2795
      @stuartbarnhill2795 Před 2 lety

      @@rottenrebels I have the OG toilette but haven't smelled Profondo but have smelled the EDP and really like it

    • @SandraSolomonFragrance
      @SandraSolomonFragrance Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you! So happy to hear that! 😊🙏🏻

  • @MarkTomeh
    @MarkTomeh Před 2 lety +3

    you do a great job describing the fragrances. This is my favorite new fragrance reviewer, rising star.

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 lety +2

      Wow, thank you! You made my day with that one! Thank you 😊🙏

  • @17silence
    @17silence Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you. Great content as always. Which one would you recommend to buy today to a person that have non of them? Greetings.

  • @a.d.c7941
    @a.d.c7941 Před rokem +4

    This is the comparison I was wanting!

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před rokem +2

      Hope you found it helpful! 😊

    • @a.d.c7941
      @a.d.c7941 Před rokem

      @@rottenrebels Very much did! U helped me decide which way to go on this one for sure! Thank u for that! Subscribing now.

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před rokem +1

      @@a.d.c7941 😊 Which one did you end up going for?

    • @a.d.c7941
      @a.d.c7941 Před rokem +2

      @@rottenrebels Had to go with Profondo!! 😁😁😁😁😁

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před rokem +1

      @@a.d.c7941 🙌

  • @ernestoalejandroespin8801
    @ernestoalejandroespin8801 Před 11 měsíci

    Thank you for the review. A suggestion..the background looks super super bright for the cam. A less britghter background will help for you guys to not look out cmof contrast with the bright light infront of the cam. 😉

  • @robkey4813
    @robkey4813 Před 2 lety +18

    Love profondo and love your collab videos with each other. My most recent bottle is Y edp which is amazing. Now I have prada l'homme, code Colonia, and 150ml of OG spicebomb on the way 😊

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 lety +1

      Y EdP might be the one in the Y collection of fragrances that I enjoy the most! Love it! Can't go wrong with any of them though.. OG spicebomb? NICE!!!

    • @SandraSolomonFragrance
      @SandraSolomonFragrance Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you! I’m really curious about Code Cologna, how is it? 😊

    • @robkey4813
      @robkey4813 Před 2 lety

      @@SandraSolomonFragrance I may enjoy it more than my code absolu. It's got that code dna but with a really nice fresh spicy twist. I got a 200ml for like $80 shipped to my door. It's a steal!

    • @arnoldsantiago8170
      @arnoldsantiago8170 Před rokem

      @@rottenrebels I love ADG EDP, saw a review saying it has a funky note. I didn't get that. Do you sir?

  • @gregorylee2092
    @gregorylee2092 Před 2 lety +8

    This new release is good but it's a hybrid of Asenza and Partlty Profondo has the citrus opening like profondo lights but not as harass and it has transitions in to Asenza only after it starts drying down .Overall it's above average it last like 7.5 to 8 hours the sent and overall a good video .

  • @slkric1724
    @slkric1724 Před 2 lety +6

    I have both and enjoy both. They both get my complements. But right now I am leaning more towards the EDP.

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 lety

      I think both are nice in different ways 😊👌

    • @DSweet101
      @DSweet101 Před rokem

      Which one lasts longer?

  • @marius7098
    @marius7098 Před měsícem

    Aqua di Gio Parfum, my choice for travel. It won't knock other passengers off chairs.

  • @zillsburyy1
    @zillsburyy1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    profondo is a sweet smelling verison of the original buy hey if you like it, belcams makes a great version

  • @manygaga1
    @manygaga1 Před 2 lety +1

    two very good releases

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 lety

      Yes! I agree. 😊 Really enjoy both! 👍

  • @alextanguay5886
    @alextanguay5886 Před 2 lety +2

    Got a sample of the new Gio EDP and really like it. Performance is bad though about 2 hours

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 lety +1

      Hi! Yes, Acqua Di Gio Eau De Parfum is not a strong one.

  • @Gregory_Rasmussen
    @Gregory_Rasmussen Před 2 lety +13

    For me Profumo is the best because to my nose it smells the most interesting. I wear it to the office and it projects well off my skin giving me a fantastic scent bubble. Great video again Rotten Rebel.

    • @wayne2150
      @wayne2150 Před 2 lety +2

      No way. Profondo is the best.

    • @Gregory_Rasmussen
      @Gregory_Rasmussen Před 2 lety +1

      @@wayne2150 Okay that's your opinion.

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 lety +3

      Thank you Gregory! 😊 i really like that they went in a different way with Profumo! Such a classy scent 😊👌

    • @Goldman-Khazar-Rothschild
      @Goldman-Khazar-Rothschild Před 2 lety +3

      I agree, Profumo is the best one. It is also the most versatile because it works dressed up.

    • @jacobsebastien3910
      @jacobsebastien3910 Před rokem

      @@wayne2150 I agree Profondo is the Best!" 💯

  • @jacobsebastien3910
    @jacobsebastien3910 Před rokem +4

    My Favorite Scent is Definitely
    Armani Porfondo it gets me the Most Attention an Complements by Far!" It's my Favorite Scent out of Every Scent Period 💯🔥

  • @cristianconstantin46
    @cristianconstantin46 Před 2 lety +7

    I'm onest, love the Acqua di Giò DNA.
    I have Profumo in my collection and is super good, very versatile, and long lasting on the skin. Actually love others, Edt, Essenza, Absolu, Profondo and Edp.
    I try it the Edp, last week, and i think I'm buy it a bottle. Love the citrus and flowers note in it. ✌️😁

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks for sharing! Yeah the new EdP is such a nice one! Love that slight hint of something floral swirling around.. So good!

    • @souljah9e
      @souljah9e Před 10 měsíci

      If you were starting over, which one of the two would you consider a better blind buy? Profondo or EDP? And if you had to have both of them, which one would you buy a bigger bottle of?

  • @1hitgamer
    @1hitgamer Před 2 měsíci

    This is exactly the video I needed! I have both but prefer the smell of profondo. The EDP seems to have slightly better staying power but smells a bit like BO and egg to me. I wish I get the performance on Profondo like people say they do

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 měsíci

      Thanks for sharing! I talk a bit about profondo in my summer fragrances video here: czcams.com/video/hcSWU0LcOCI/video.html
      It's definitely not a strong performing fresh scent. 😊 It's a great aquatic freshie but I do recommend spraying more with it since the scent cloud is not that strong.

  • @mohamedboukhary9942
    @mohamedboukhary9942 Před rokem

    the meaning of the word profondo in Italian is deep ❤

  • @ericchatman7220
    @ericchatman7220 Před rokem

    I have the edp would it be redundant to get profondo too?

  • @Powerule23
    @Powerule23 Před 2 měsíci

    These are very similar, which I wear during the same season and occasion. Profondo has more going on and it's a great fragrance, but I find the EDP more appealing, as you mention, in a minimum way. I also use the EDP to blend with Profumo to cut the insense.

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 měsíci

      Thanks for sharing! A vote for Acqua di Gio edp then 😊

  • @tuttifrutti17
    @tuttifrutti17 Před 2 lety +7

    Profumo vs Profondo? Which one is the best? I definetly prefer the Profumo.

  • @jormungandr7885
    @jormungandr7885 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I have a 75ml bottle of Profondo and I love it so much that I ordered a 200ml bottle!

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 9 měsíci

      Thanks for sharing! How would you rate Acqua di gio Profondo from 1-10?

    • @jormungandr7885
      @jormungandr7885 Před 9 měsíci

      @@rottenrebels I don't like giving 10s but for me it's probably a 9/10. One of my favourite freshies for sure, and it's strong enough to wear in spring and fall aswell! I can't get enough of the opening!

  • @morganmo6516
    @morganmo6516 Před 29 dny

    How many spray do you recommend with Profondo. I feel it's very weak

  • @bigray5929
    @bigray5929 Před rokem

    Love Profondo and OMG I also love the ADG edp but i dont have that one. Is it a good idea to have both 🤔 .

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před rokem

      Hmm... They are a bit different while being in the same 'category'.
      I don't think it's necessary for someone who only has a few fragrances in his collection to have both. Then it's better to maybe have one and then go for another one that's completely different.
      For someone who has a large collection, or who truly loves both, then maybe it makes more sense to have both 😊

    • @bigray5929
      @bigray5929 Před rokem

      @@rottenrebels Thank you 😊

  • @milenvalchanov1208
    @milenvalchanov1208 Před rokem +1

    I bought them both because I liked them both,but the best acqua di gio is profumo

  • @967031
    @967031 Před 8 měsíci

    I really like both of these scents very much I just can’t decide which one I like more. 😤

  • @markchen5710
    @markchen5710 Před 2 lety +4

    these smelled very similar on my skin, but I will say edp over profondo for the simple reason that profondo doesn’t last on my skin for some reason.

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 lety

      Ahh.. Interesting! Another vote for Acqua di Gio EDP! Thanks for sharing! 😊

    • @markchen5710
      @markchen5710 Před 2 lety

      @@rottenrebels the edp is definitely a more bitter opening. It also has some slight smokey notes from the vetiver to me. But nowhere as smokey as profumo.

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 lety

      @@markchen5710 True! Profumo is the one that leans more into that territory 😄😄👌👌

    • @alextanguay5886
      @alextanguay5886 Před 2 lety

      Same with mine..EDP is not great but profonde is even worse on my skin like one hour 👎

  • @arnoldsantiago8170
    @arnoldsantiago8170 Před rokem +1

    I love ADG EDP, saw a review saying it has a funky note. I didn't get that. Do you sir?

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před rokem +1

      Hi!
      I know some people get something "greenish" in the original that they did not enjoy, but the EdP - at least to me - has stripped off things so much and made it so smooth and nice that there's nothing but goodness in it.
      But again, it's all subjective so someone might get something "funky", but I don't 😊

    • @arnoldsantiago8170
      @arnoldsantiago8170 Před rokem

      @@rottenrebels many thanks sir

  • @merope100
    @merope100 Před 2 lety +2

    Is it just me or does profundo slightly remind anyone of percival? It has that lavender and aquatic feel. Maybe a simpler and more basic version of percival. That is the only reason I haven't purchased profundo. I find percival similar but better in every way.

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 lety +2

      Hi Aaron! Different noses different vibes and experiences 😊 To me its very different to percival. Percival is more nuanced, with more distinct and separate layers of highs, mids and lows that come together in a fantastic way 😊 Profondo is a great scent but not as nuanced and not on the same level of quality on a more granular level 😊 I reach for percival way more often Than profondo but profondo is an amazing and versatile one that I use from everything to formal events to those warm days in the sun 😊🙌

    • @merope100
      @merope100 Před 2 lety

      @@rottenrebels since I got percival it is hard justifying buying any fresh scent as I don't see a purpose to wearing it over percival.

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 lety +1

      @@merope100 that one eclipses them all 😊🙌

  • @boongyify
    @boongyify Před 2 lety +20

    I like how both your outfits compliment the juice colour of the bottles.Did you plan to hold the bottles that correspond with your partner's outfit?

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 lety +2

      Hi! Actually not 😊🤷🏽‍♂️ I put that on, she did her thing and that was the result 😊 But who knows, maybe subconsiously she aimed to match EdP and I profondo 🤷🏽‍♂️ Thank you! 🙏🙏🙏

    • @arnoldsantiago8170
      @arnoldsantiago8170 Před 2 lety

      @@rottenrebels which is fruity and fresh?

    • @nyuu444
      @nyuu444 Před rokem +1

      @@arnoldsantiago8170 neither are fruity. Profondo is aquatic mineraly and EDP is aquatic green. Both smell excellent.

    • @souljah9e
      @souljah9e Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@nyuu444Can you tell me which one performs better in the blazing hot sun and which one might come off as more refined?

    • @nyuu444
      @nyuu444 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@souljah9e the edp performs a bit better on me and has a more mature vibe because of the greens.

  • @galslovveme
    @galslovveme Před 10 měsíci

    the profondo bottle looks a lot lighter than the 4.2oz bottle I have. The marine scene on Profondo is great but I either get nose blind to it really quickly or its longevity sucks

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 10 měsíci +1

      The bottle looks lighter because of the light in the video 😊 It's a fantastic aquatic fresh scent but it's not a strong one 😊

  • @mancity179
    @mancity179 Před 2 lety +1

    Sandra ans Rotten Rebel hope you enjoy your holiday I heard last week you were going away woo hoo. I LIKE PROFUMO AS ITS MY BEST ARMANI SO FAR.not to long and I'll be in Italy 🇮🇹 drinking cafe in a beautiful Italian restaurant

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 lety

      Love Italy! 🇮🇹 Rome and Amalfi are two of my favourite places in the world 👌🙌

  • @hassannasir90
    @hassannasir90 Před rokem

    What if, I own Y EDP, light blue eau extreme, sauvage edt, dylan blue and eros edp. Amongest which Acqua Di Gio line should I go for?

    • @mattpeters9638
      @mattpeters9638 Před rokem

      You have enough scents that cover the situations I use the ADG line in. If you want to buy one just to buy one, I personally like profondo. Biggest compliment getter and easy to pull off.

    • @Banggeek
      @Banggeek Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@mattpeters9638but I hate the Profumo I tried the Profume dupe from arab i dont like it oldies.

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 měsíci

      Hi! I think it comes down to what type of aquatic scent you enjoy the most. Profondo I would say is the most mass appealing and versatile one, but the newer Parfum is definitely also among the top of the ones in the AdG line.
      For a fruity and sweet twist there's Absolu, but it seems like they discontinued it which is a shame. 🤔 That one pulled in the most compliments out of them all and actually brought something quite different to the line. Hope they bring it back 🤷‍♂️

  • @fictionalrealityartsllc6112

    Profondo hands down

  • @sandymcconnell1969
    @sandymcconnell1969 Před 2 lety +24

    It has to be the EDP for me. The whole range is good though. Profumo and Essenza are still the benchmark.

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 lety +6

      Thanks for sharing! 😊 cant go wrong with any of these armanis 😊

    • @sandymcconnell1969
      @sandymcconnell1969 Před 2 lety

      @@rottenrebels Definitely. There's enough of a difference between them all to justify a purchase....either that or I'm desperately trying to convince myself now that I've parted with my cash. I actually don't own Absolu or Absolu Instinct nor feel the need to. Do you have them or have sampled them and if so, how would you rate them?

    • @wayne2150
      @wayne2150 Před 2 lety +4

      No. Profondo is that best of the line.

    • @alexgarcia7401
      @alexgarcia7401 Před 2 lety

      @Sandy Uprichard I 100% agree with you.

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 lety +1

      @@sandymcconnell1969 i loved Absolu from the first sniff! From when it was brand new and completely underrated by most. Such a nice flanker that is different from the rest in the line! Crazy good compliment getter as well 👌 Absolu Instinct is good as well, but not as nice as absolu. Highly recommend Absolu even though I know a lot of men shy away from it (women love that on guys though). Absolu Instinct might be one flanker though that I don’t think is an essential buy 😊

  • @jcbewell
    @jcbewell Před rokem +4

    I think profondo is better imo 👍🏼

  • @78nailbomb
    @78nailbomb Před rokem

    I've been hunting for a 2nd ADG fragrance but I'm stuck. Profondo, lights or EDP? Considering all the reviews and comments there is not a clear cut winner. Yeah, I've tested all 3. Still can't decide.

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před rokem

      which is your current adg fragrance?

    • @78nailbomb
      @78nailbomb Před rokem

      @@rottenrebels It's Profumo for me. Been for years even before I got interested in fragrances. It just feels gentlemanly.

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před rokem +1

      ​@@78nailbomb Profondo, Profondo Lights and the EDP are different compared to profumo. I do have a review of the EDP.. They all have "that" AdG kind of scent but it's a bit more noticeable in some and they all have their own unique take on it.
      I like the EDP because to me it's a minimalistic "bare bones" modern kind of version of the original. Profondo smells great and I really like lights , but I keep forgetting about it so I have not used it that much. Can't go wrong with any of them as long as you enjoy marine/aquatic scents. All are classy and smell great 😊

    • @78nailbomb
      @78nailbomb Před rokem

      @@rottenrebels Yes. Different then Profumo. Non have that smoky vibe. The problem is that I like all 3 but can buy only 1.
      If all else fails, get the wife to choose. 🤣

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před rokem

      @@78nailbomb 😊

  • @BroskiTheGreat
    @BroskiTheGreat Před 2 lety +5

    I Love them both..... shit, I LOVE THEM ALL!

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 lety

      Yessssss!! Both of these AdG are NICE ☀️👌😊

  • @heystarfish100
    @heystarfish100 Před rokem +4

    I would buy the one that I could get for the best sale price. 😂 It’s Armani and in my experience this is no wrong answer.

  • @user-fr4km5dy1j
    @user-fr4km5dy1j Před 2 lety +2

    Please review Strictly Private by baldessarini!

  • @thedunhill3412
    @thedunhill3412 Před 2 lety +3

    👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @LeeNguyen12
    @LeeNguyen12 Před 2 lety

    Have you ever tried Profondo Lights?

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 lety

      Hi there Lee! yes, I own it and I like it!! 😊 I have not directly compared it to profondo though.. So not sure how I feel about them two side by side 😉 You like it?

    • @LeeNguyen12
      @LeeNguyen12 Před 2 lety

      @@rottenrebels I have Profondo already, so do you think I need to own Profondo Lights or not? Thank you 🙏

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 lety +1

      @@LeeNguyen12 it depends on how much you love the scent. If you absolutely love it then why not? It’s a GREAT scent But if you already have profondo I would probably save the money and go for something else in the AdG line or something completely different 😊

    • @LeeNguyen12
      @LeeNguyen12 Před 2 lety

      @@rottenrebels yes that’s what i think

  • @elviscamilo4723
    @elviscamilo4723 Před 2 lety +2

    👍

  • @ericnuval
    @ericnuval Před 2 lety

    imo it’s redundant to own both 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 měsíci

      Thanks for sharing! Which of them is your favorite?

  • @SandraSolomonFragrance
    @SandraSolomonFragrance Před 2 lety +4

    I’m never first anymore 😭😭😭

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 lety +5

      Turn Notifications ON please 👍😊

    • @sandymcconnell1969
      @sandymcconnell1969 Před 2 lety +2

      I'm quite sure he'll always put you first 😉

    • @SandraSolomonFragrance
      @SandraSolomonFragrance Před 2 lety +1

      @@sandymcconnell1969 😆🤦‍♀️

    • @sandymcconnell1969
      @sandymcconnell1969 Před 2 lety

      @@SandraSolomonFragrance I am VERY observant. Rotten Rebel going on a beach holiday....you also going on a beach holiday. What a coincidence. 🤣🤣🤣 Enjoy. 🏖

  • @evgeniystavila7207
    @evgeniystavila7207 Před 2 lety +2

    На следующий день профондо пахнет инвиктусом

  • @1011skarn
    @1011skarn Před 7 měsíci

    Profondo is ok, and the EDP is ok. Nothing special, I do not get the hype with Profondo. PROFUMO, however, has character and personality. Hell, even Absolu has some personality. But Profumo, and now the new Parfum (it's replacement" is fantastic.

    • @rottenrebels
      @rottenrebels  Před 2 měsíci

      Thanks for sharing! So out of these two, which do you think is the better one?

    • @ParfumFragrance
      @ParfumFragrance Před 2 měsíci +1

      Profondo the best❤

  • @R2sojr09
    @R2sojr09 Před rokem +8

    Profondo: Daily
    Profumo: Nights
    Original: After shower to causal
    The opening of Profondo is unmatched.

  • @jimijackson
    @jimijackson Před rokem +2

    European women are so beautiful.....