Magic & Kareem is a very different story. for one, it was the era of superteams. **every** title contender had at least 2 HoFers on it. and Kareem's final MVP season was Magic's rookie year. they never shared their primes together like Shaq and Kobe did. also 5 titles vs 3* *2002 was a robbery and everyone knows it so that title gets a big, fat asterisk
It's the Lebron fans who's been putting down Kobe. I heard some of them even take credits away from Kareem for playing with Magic, because Lebron's getting compared to Kareem in the all time ranking. Now they're trying to take credits away from Jordan for playing with Pippen. Unbelievable.
7:40 - 7:45 Even in the loss, Kobe faced his competitors and congratulated them. We all know of a certain someone that would immediately do the walk of shame after losing a game.
He learned that from Jordan… he always made sure to shake hands with all his opponents, Win or Loose. Sadly the Pistons showed him no respect in return, even after all the dirty plays… he def became a little more ruthless and a Monster on the court.
Your channel is gonna blow tf up. Your delivery is epic and the Kobe love has a special place in my cold heart. Bravo sir! Can't wait for the next in the "The Last" series!
Thank you! 🙏 🙏 and may I say, if you love Kobe and hate Lebron, this is the exact channel for you 😂. When I’m adequately satisfied with my destruction of Lebron, I’m planning much more on Kobe. He and Lebron are perfect foils of one another. Same general era. One massively underrated and the other massively overrated. Thanks for watching! And stay tuned. The next installment in “The Last” series will be out within the next 48 hours 😂 🙏
@@skap_attack Yep good work! Another video idea id like to see is Kobe vs Duncan because media pushing that Duncan is better all time the Kobe now which is a absolute joke and some revisionist history
I’ve been a Kobe fan since his rookie year. Watched every game he played in 20 years. The man is very underrated nowadays. I don’t think Lebron can hold his shoes but the media is ranking him ahead of Kobe. Such a shame…
We’re on the same level here. I too have seen every game he ever played (regular season and playoffs). And I can confidently say, it’s. It particularly close. Kobe clears Lebron easily 🙏
@@skap_attack you leave out a lot of facts...for example Hakeem didn't dominate Shaq, in fact Shaq won their matchup but the Rockets just beat the Magic. It's a team game.
@@MikeHawk-yg3gk sorry but no. There’s 5 guys on a court and they play both ways, near 90% of the total. Nba superstars have always had the expectation that they win. That’s how they build their individual legacies. By taking their team to the promised land despite other factors. “Team game” 😂. The LeBum media narrative. I see you working tho 👍🏻
@@skap_attack what do you mean near 90%? Ok so if the 2 stars are equally matched but team A has another all star and their role players are better and team B just has their 1 star with mediocre role players, it's the star on team B's fault they lost? Why wasn't Hakeem winning in the 80s or early 90s? Why wasn't Shaq winning until Phil Jackson became his coach? According to you they should've because you pretty much said"you don't need a good team".
@@MikeHawk-yg3gk LeBronze Metal James had about the same supporting cast as Hakeem in 1994 that's what I find funny. The Hakeem question, I really don't think people realize how good Magic was with an without Kareem from the 80s up until 91. Or how good Portland was in the early 90s that West Hakeem had to deal would've been Tim Duncan if he didn't have Popovich an a Hall of Fame PG. Then 3 straight seasons you had 3 different bigs in the West win MVP Robinson Barkley & Olajuwon, then in 1995 he knocked off 3 60 win teams (PHX 59 Wins) then he swept his opponent in the Finals who were a 57 win team. Take all this on top of a pure basketball player standpoint Hakeem Olajuwon is easily a top 10 All-time Player. When the Greatest of All-Time left the game, Hakeem did what Ewing Shaq Barkley Malone Stockton Robinson Payton Miller an those guys were supposed to do an that's finally win a title. He did it both seasons, being a 6 seed in 1995. Remember take away one of the greatest coaches of all time an his hall of fame PG Tim Duncan is 2000s version of Hakeem Olajuwon which still is top 10.
Kobe Bryant in 00-02 playoffs: 25.3/5.7/4.9 on 53% TS Scottie Pippen in 96-98 playoffs: 17.6/7.4/5.0 on 50% TS But MJ can't win without Pippen, and Kobe got carried by Shaq. Kobe was also arguably even more productive than first 3-peat Pippen (20.3/8.2/6.1 on 54% TS), and that's including Kobe's non-elite 00 season. If we included 03 Kobe instead of 00, the numbers wouldn't even be close
Difference being MJ was never the Robin on his team. And truth is that 98 title run was as close to winning it without Pippen one could get. Kobe isn’t MJ.
TheTRUTH about this channel is that it is criminally underrated. You sir are making some of the best basketball videos I have seen on youtube. Lots of hard facts with entertaining commentary. This is beautiful.
I can't tell you how much I appreciate the sarcastic angle you take in your videos. Shaq carrying Kobe has always been the most numb-brained thing I've ever heard from sports fans.
and "LebRoN iS a tOp 5 lAkEr" and "' l EGO at" not sure which is worse from a laker fan's perspective, but "l EGO at" is just a general travesty to the game itself from any perspective.
@@chuckyjamesamartin1968 soooo 22, 5 & 5 is considered being carried?? Lmaooo ok dude,,, the primary focus was feeding the ball to shaq I hope you know that ,, & that was young kobe,,, not even in his prime yet
Your channel is rapidly becoming a favorite of mine, esp after The Last Choke documentary. Imagining what would have been if their chip runs kept on going is the same as wondering if Michael would have stayed on the Bulls. Keep up the great work with your clips!
Many thanks for watching 🙏. And I agree. Kobe and Shaq not breaking up is one of all time great “would have, could haves” in NBA history. Along with, I agree with you, Jordan had he not retired for the year and a half in his early 30s and then played the 99 strike shortened season and 2000. Hypothetically they would have played young Duncan and THEN this Kobe Shaq team. Of course they’d have a different coach as Phil was out in Chicago and the the lakers. That would have been the most juicy storyline in NBA history. If Jordan and his bulls played Shaq, Kobe and Phil in the 2000 finals. Thanks again for watching, and I’m glad you’re enjoying the channel 🙏
@@skap_attack You got it. One more thing to think about with Chicago...how would Scottie's back have held up? MJ had to turn it on even more against Utah because of SP's back which was rapidly giving out at a moment's notice. Michael was exhausted after that series, yet having to go at it even harder the next year would have proven difficult. And then to most likely face SA with their rookie out of Wake Forest? Maybe everything happens for a reason, as they say.
@@jonnuanez7183 yeah. Honestly and the defensive capabilities of San Antonio with Robinson and Duncan. I don’t think the bulls win that series honestly. Tho, in fairness, I think pippen is gone and the bulls have retooled in some way. So Jordan likely would have had something different to work with than what they looked like in 1998…. Another good “what if” involving Kobe that I often ponder is if he never was traded from charlotte. The WEAK ass eastern conference that Lebron got to feast on for 15 years could have been Kobe’s. And he could have had the freedom to lead a team from a very young age. Have a team built around him from the start of his career instead of fitting himself into a team with Shaq THEN going through a full rebuild in his absolute prime. Who knows how many he wins, but I would expect he would have gotten to at least 6 or 7 still the way they conference was built. And can you imagine young Kobe with a bad team just trying to average 35 every year. Would have been fun. But as you said, perhaps everything happens for a reason…
PLEASE STOP!! I can’t stop laughing!!! This is the greatest funniest video ever!!! Every time you showed Turbo breakdancing with the broom, I am just breaking out into laughter and everyone is wondering what is going on with me??? Kudos to you sir - masterful videos - especially the Last Choke series!!!!
Anyone ever notice how they- the media- tried to snub Kobe? After he died they tried to slander him. When that failed they went to trying to void him out the conversation entirely. And Shaq, Barkeley, and that ilk...they are known to readily sign on to that sort of muckraking. It's always made me wonder what really happened to Kobe.
It's the basketball "analysts" on tv being paid by klutch sports. That is the exactly the reason for Kobe being pushed out of the goat debate and a top 5 player of all time debate. These klutch sports people have injected Lebron into that conversation by pushing Kobe out. All anyone had to do over the last few yrs is watch and pay attention to what these klutch people have been saying. Shannon Sharpe, Kendrick Perkins, Nick Wright, etc.
It all started in Colorado... the league got leery of that situation... the media kept pressing his trips there for court etc... then the Malice at the Palace Happened and outside of sports centered highlights and he consistently doing the damn thing game after game where it forced them to say something about him... they couldn't wait to just say anything negative about him "Other stars don't like him, his team mates don't like him, he can't draw talent to the team, he doesn't recruit because people don't like his game" The non-sense was unbelievable... IMO Kobe has 1 knock against him... getting blown out in decisive games in the playoffs! Thats it
Are you like 5 years old? If anything the media pushed him FAR above than he belongs, we had people calling him the 2nd greatest player ever, I heard some calling him better than MJ, if Kobe is above your top 5 than you are overrating him and that’s a fact
Shaq and Kobe both left a few on the table. If both of them could have found a way to coexist and age gracefully together, we could have been talking about 6 or 7 for that tandem.
As much as I would have loved to see that, would the contracts have worked out to sign enough role players? It's tough to keep a roster with both on the team.
This channel is gonna grow daily man. Keep producing content like this. The media or “LeMedia” has to have an opposite. The law of polarity states this clearly. All of these paid goons in the media constantly spread propaganda about lebron. Belittling lebrons teamates and his competition. Diminishing Kobe’s legacy and of course Jordan’s legacy. You should do a video about the 2008 Olympics and how no one in the media talked about how Kobe was the undisputed leader and alpha on the team. With “king” James on it of course. Only took Ls before that year
I like it. Put it in my queue of videos to work on. Thank you for the suggestion 🙏. And many thanks for watching. I used to get so damn annoyed trying to watch espn with all of the media Lebron trolls on there spewing out the propaganda. I decided to try to start a channel as a means of self therapy 😂.
fam love your page u a REAL ONE!!!! All these fake narratives man.....LIKE GOT DAMN...I share your page with my people they should be following. YOU are gonna be at the top soon keep going fam real talk!!!!
THANK YOU! I’m glad you’re enjoying and sharing. That’s why I do it. To expose these fake ass narratives! God knows espn won’t do it. Someone has to 😂. Thanks again for watching, and I’m glad you’re enjoying 🙏
Loved the editing in this video!😂😂 The time it must’ve taken to accumulate all the Shaq dancing clips. Also the slick shots at Queen James was fitting & hilarious.
Dude, your clips are as entertaining as they are informative and factual - free of the usual bias from the mainstream. Excellent work. Keep it up, my man. Subbed.
Great video , I’m so happy you made this video at this time. Kobe and Shaq were dominant. One dominated the perimeter the other the paint. Kobe is better than Lebron. Only perimeter player besides Jordan to win 3 in a row.
It was a challenging video for me to make, as I have nothing but love for Shaq. Especially as he and Kobe rekindle before Kob’s tragic passing. But I felt the video had to be made from Kobe’s perspective as the hero of the story. I grew up in that era. From 2000-2010, Kobe was as good in that decade as any other player in any decade ever aside from Mike. I really believe that. Didn’t win the MVPs because the media hated him. As for these two as duo, best tandem ever. Kobe was the best perimeter player alive and in prime. Shaq was the best front court player alive and in prime. Never been done before. Likely won’t ever again.
Thank you so much for speaking truth and showing Bean Love Kobe gets trashed in the Media It's awesome that you debunk the hate speech that goes against Kobe
Kobe definitely became a star in 2000. But he was still a legitimate sidekick. With that said, by the 2001 season, he was legitimately a co-alpha. That’s what made them so dominant. It was a two headed monster by the 2001 season, he was a legitimate superstar and top-five player in the sport.
There will be more to come on Kob. The most disrespected and hated all time great. We should be talking GOAT cases with him, instead they’re talking “barely top 10” smh.
Skap I mean this as a compliment. You remind me of Howard Cosell. You say what you think, and your delivery has that slow bite to it. The way you punch certain words really makes the facts you crank out all the more effective. Keep up the great work.
Oh man oh man this is an absolute masterpiece. THANK YOU SO MUCH for reminding all these puppets around. They think if they continue to repeat the same nonsense over and over it'll stick eventually. They debate MJ vs Lebron at EVERY opportunity they get as if it's gospel that they're the 2 at the top. MJ is #1, but when the f*** did Lebron pass Kobe? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. Not every one is a mindless zombie that can be programmed by media. Kobe Bean Bryant is a stud. Lebron never wanted the smoke from him. Real ones know. I watched the black mamba play and I promise you till today I've never seen ANYTHING like it. These boys nowadays think they're sweet, they're little children. They love to talk how Kobe was "carried", but don't count all the HOFers Lebron has run to team up with over the years to win cupcake rings. The same people call KD a cupcake for joining GSW. They forget that a certain "King" set that precedent. Shaq needs to speak up more when these dumb debates come up. I get upset everytime they leave out Kob. The league ACTIVELY tries to diminish the guy's accomplishments. Oh and thanks for the laughs in between haha. Sorry, I don't usually write this much. Tired of media.
If I didn’t know any better, I would think I wrote this comment myself with some kind of a burner account 😂. You sound EXACTLY like me. The same EXACT shit I’ve been ranting about for 20 years. It goes without saying, I of course agree with you. I can see a case for Jordan, Kareem and Russell above Kobe. That’s legitimately it. And while due to resume, I would likely have Kareem at 2, I’ll take Kobe in my third spot all time. And if we’re talking about simply “eye test”. Or how complete a player was. Or what the peak was, I only have Jordan above Kobe. And even that is WAAAY closer than anyone cares to discuss or admit. One of the reasons I go at Lebron so much is because I’m so fed up with the lie that he “easily cleared” Kobe years ago. I’ve been watching ALL of those years, Lebron NEVER cleared Kobe. Thanks for watching! And keep fighting the good fight!! 🙏 🐍 > 👑
@@skap_attack Hahaha yesss! This video needs to go viral man. I wish I had clout, I'd make it blow up. This made my damn day. People need to hear the truth and activate their brains for once! Keep up the good work, 10000% in support!
Kobe took a leap that year they won the title. Shaq took a leap. It's almost like Phil Jackson had something to do with it... When Phil got the big job in Chicago, Jordan at that time was a scoring machine and seen by many as the league's best but also as a guy who didn't know how to win the big one. Phil's second ever season as a head coach and it's the start of a threepete. And he gets another one then quits the Bulls. Two years later he goes to LA. Shaq at that time was a scoring machine and seen by many as the league's best but also as a guy who didn't know how to win the big one. Phil's first season back in the coaches chair was the start of another threepete. Kobe wasn't the reason Shaq won, Phil was. Phil's cheat code triangle offence and his ability to get larger than life megastars to put their ego's aside and buy into his team philosophy made legends out of Jordan and Shaq. Honestly I have never seen an NBA player as good as Shaq was in those three finals MVP years. He was simply unstoppable. Better than Jordan was for either of his threepetes. Obviously not better career vs career but in my eyes from 2000-2003 Shaq may have been The GOAT of basketball. Also this guy is being intentionally misleading by showing their averages across 5 finals to argue that Shaq didn't carry Kobe to those three rings. If you just go by the three finals where they won the stat's are as follows; Shaquille O'Neal: 35.9 PPG, 15.2 RPG, 3.5 APG on 59.5% shooting Kobe Bryant: 22.0 PPG, 6.1 RPG, 5.1 APG on 42.5% shooting Shaq was without question the man in those finals.
Realistically the best duo ever imo. Kareem and Magic as well as Scottie and Jordan were more accomplished. But no tandem was more elite than these two. And THANK YOU 🙏. I’m glad you’re enjoying, and thanks so much for watching 🙏
The people who claim shaq carried Kobe never bring up thay shaq couldn’t win with 2 all stars before Kobe emerged. Neither got carried both were leaders of that team an arguably the best duo ever. Your edits are incredible btw 😂 I can’t stop cracking up watching
Had Kobe not had Shaq from 1996 to 2004, he would have never won any titles as the main man because he had no idea how to win without Jackson's guidance/leadership and Shaq's dominance. You would have seen Afro Kobe on his own team fold up in the playoffs with double teams on him that he never faced because Shaq was on his squad. Kobe never had the primary focus of the defense because Shaq existed on the Lakers. Y'all stay delusional though.
@@QuestionEverything562 is that why he won in 2009-10 without shaq on his team? Your acting like Kobe didn’t dominate doubles and triples his whole career, his 2008-10 runs were built of the most ridiculous shot making I’ve ever seen
@@QuestionEverything562 same thing can be said for any great who played alongside a another co star. Why is the narrative only for kobe ? Shaq got swept in the WCF how many times ?
Stay calm while i go grab a bucket of water . Dude, YOUR ON FIRE !! New format is really going off !! Your doing an important thing. The world needs peoope who chalkenfe media lies. The medias multibillion $$ BRAINWASHING machine is coming to an end. Keep going man. Thanks for your dedication to the truth.
@@skap_attack You are so welcome! I was thinking if you want to, you can do a video about the change of game rules. I'm so convince those rules were changed for certain players like hand checking. I was thinking about it.
@@tjc2993 that’s a fantastic idea! I will absolutely put that in my queue of upcoming videos. I’ve been meaning to do one on the era specific changes and how todays nba is MUCH quicker and easier to score in. I can wrap the rules changes right into that.
Crazy thing is that if Shaq would have shot 70% instead of 52% in freethrows his scoring numbers would have gone through the roof. Thats how dominant he was even without a jumpshot.
Kobe didn't bother to use all available chemical resources. He was THAT ARROGANT. LeBron pretended to want to join Wade when in reality he wanted to take a step he could only take in Miami. E P O.
Man thank you for these great videos! Ve bwwn trying to tell people this about kobe and all rhe false narratives about LEFRAUAD JAMES for years and everyone always say im hating! Keep up rhe gret work!!!
I loved watching Shaq dominate 3 quarters then Kobe closing while Shaq watched. I was there. Kobes defense back then was nutty. His defense, and closing was unreal. Penny couldnt close and his defense was not even close to Kobe. I love MJ. Kobe is my Goat though. Im old. I watched Magic, Bird, Barkley, MJ. Still think Kobe is the best player ever. We need a Barkley vid. MFers dont know how good the man was. Id take prime barkley over lebum any day.
My guy! From a true day one Kobe fan - not posthumously - thank you, thank you, thank you! Been saying this sh*t for years now. Bean was never a coat tail rider. You MASTERFULLY laid out the argument. This vid is appreciated.
No, THANK YOU for watching 🙏. And for backing and repping Kob. The most underrated, disrespected player in nba history. We should be talking about this cat in GOAT conversations yet the narrative on him has become “barely top 10”. It’s disgusting. And I have plenty more to say on this subject… 🙏
I don't want to short charge Shaq because he was incredible, but I don't like the Lebron fans who undermined Kobe's contribution in their 3peat. They were neck to neck in those championships, Kobe contributed more in those West team battles and Shaq feasted more in the finals.
@@judahmourneth3211 Eddie Jones FG% was like 46% when he was on the Lakers... his stats were like 15/2/2 he was absolutely not lighting the world on fire with Shaq playing next to him "feasting on the West" Kobe was a straight baller, developed on the fly with hard work and dedication to his craft... so just stop with FG% as if it's the defining metric of all time...
Put some respect on Kobe's name dammit. But to make lebron seem greater than he is, lebron fan boys gotta create a narrative to diss kobe. Keep up the good work my man!
Mentioning that Shaquille O’Neal was swept seems like an attempt to imply that he is the reason for his team losing each time. I remember those 1990s Lakers teams that were coached by Dell Harris. He was a terrible coach and could not recognize the talent he had on his roster, nor figure ways to put them in the best position to win. This is why Phil Jackson was brought in, Which turned out to be the right move.
Honesty this channel is on the Joseph Vincent Level... different approach obviously and its just plain facts laced with the humor its brilliant! Got my sons watching you and some friend's now too!
Wow! Many thanks for such high praise. I don’t watch many other channels, but Joseph Vincent is one I follow. I’m glad you are enjoying my stuff, and thanks so much for watching! 🙏
@@xaviervega468 I’m not a “hater” either. I have takes on certain athletes that I back up with facts. I love Joseph Vincent’s work. Love his editing skills and his storytelling. But Vincent, along with basically every other “sports CZcamsr” just remains static neutral. The reason this is, in my opinion, isn’t to “let others make up their mind” or “decide for themselves”. It’s so they can grab as many subscribers as possible and not “offend” anyone. I don’t view myself as a “sports CZcamsr”. I don’t care about subscribers or views. I greatly appreciate EVERYONE who has subscribed to my channel and who watches my videos. But I’m not going to make a single piece of content to pander to or try to illicit viewers. I have takes. Stories of my own to tell that I find important. That’s what I’m doing. Neither you or anyone else has to be here.
@@skap_attack bro... you keep blazin your skills and story telling for this channel and when I found it was "Perfect Timin" nobody does it like Skap Attack... nobody!
Imagine averaging 29 points and 13 rebounds but only being selected All-NBA third team!! 😲 That era of bigs was on an entirely different level. 2001 Kobe was goated, I really think if you replace Shaq with a starter quality big the Lakers with their elite three and D lineups could've still won against the Sixers. Kobe struggled in game 1 but when you examine the series, Kobe was just as good if not better overall than Iverson was, especially when you factor in defensive impact and efficiency.
This proves the fact not argument that 90's basketball surpass this Era of basketball if shaq average 29ppg and 13rpg while going up against jordan, hakeem, David Robinson. Karl malone yeah this era of basketball is far more superior than the 90's
@@QuestionEverything562 You talking about me?? In the 2001 finals when comparing Iverson and Kobe: - Kobe was more efficient from three - Kobe was more efficient from the field - Kobe was the far superior free throw shooter - Kobe averaged more rebounds - Kobe averaged more assists - Kobe averaged far more stocks (Steals + blocks) - Kobe was the far superior defender - Kobe averaged nearly 25 PPG on roughly 11 less shot attempts per game than Iverson, without Shaq there Kobe has more ease to the basket and easily averages 32+ for the series just on added volume alone. That's not even getting into the fact that Fisher and Lue gave Iverson all sorts of trouble and that the Lakers shot nearly 40% from three in the 2001 playoffs. The series would go slightly longer, but the Lakers were the superior team even if Shaq was replaced with a starter quality big. The Lakers instantly become a far better free throw shooting team with Shaq gone. I'm not saying Kobe was superior to Shaq at this time, I'm saying the 2001 Lakers were one of the Greatest teams ever, if not the greatest and Kobe was the better offensive player and defensive player compared to Iverson in that series, despite getting off to a poor start in game 1. To make it simple, Kobe was a more efficient version of Iverson this series but with far better playmaking and worlds better defense. The added offensive firepower from the additional lakers cast would prove too much for a largely offensively inept Sixers squad. I didn't really feel like explaining all this, but yeah. 2001 Kobe is one of the greatest playoff performers of all time, but somehow gets very heavily disrespected by fans who aren't familiar with his career.
@@themightyruler1319 Kobe was very good defensively in that Finals, his defense on AI was really good. It's what you said about Shaq that is really dim. Kobe struggled in that series offensively at times, Shaq didn't. Kobe would have lost that series without Shaq. You have no idea what Shaq did in that series, nor how the 76ers had no answer for his dominance despite their entire defensive game plan designed around Shaq, not Kobe. Kobe struggled offensively in that series with Eric Snow's physicality on him. You put up all those numbers in juxtaposition to Iverson's who was an inefficient high volume chucker. Kobe put up 41% FG% with SHAQ on his team! Imagine if Shaq wasn't there, imagine the 76ers entire defensive gameplan was on Kobe then.... You don't know how to properly analyze early 2000s Kobe, and definitely don't understand Shaq's dominant must double team at all times impact.
Never like the term "Goated". That's this generation's way of dumbing down and handing out trophies to anyone who makes an ESPN highlight. There's one GOAT and his name is Michael fcking Jeffery to the motherfcking Jordan.
@@judahmourneth3211 You do realize 10 of the championships were collected by the Lakers and spurs right ? 99-2010 and best defense teams were in the west
@@JIX9ISLER1986 and they sucked offensively. Name me some wing players that was good offensively around that time to put the pressure on Kobe. When the 03 spurs Finally go some good wing players they got swept. Or the 04 pistons. Actually, notice both years when Kobe was more offensively aggressive the lakers lost.
@@judahmourneth3211 tracy played in the west in late 00s so did Allen Iverson Carmelo Anthony ect ect lets not pretend shaq had no player at his position in the 00s they were all in the 90s
Yea. There’s been A LOT of premature talks about players over the years. Only one guy they’ve gone to lengths to discredit and knock out of the conversation so excessively…Kobe.
@@skap_attack And it's the one guy who actually deserves to be in the conversation. I can't wait until Lefraud finally retires so they'll stop with the fake narrative about him being the GOAT, like they stopped with Shaq... and so many others
I don’t know if THAT specifically is the narrative any longer. BUT there’s a general consensus that Kobe’s rings “don’t count” as much as other players. And it’s legitimately the worst narrative in the sports history in my opinion.
It’s mind-boggling to me that anybody can call Lebron the GOAT when, over the course of twenty seasons, he just BARELY won two consecutive Championships once, on a stacked super team with two other superstars and HOF role players, needing arguably the greatest (and most miraculous) shot in NBA history to make it happen. MJ three-peated twice with less help while playing in an era with more all-time great teams and players, and Kobe did it with only one other superstar on his team in a loaded Western Conference. Having Lebron as the GOAT is the ultimate clown take. 😂😂
Yes, YES, YESSS 🛎️💯. Like people watching him just yelling eye test to the mountain tops. Same as people watching Aaron Rodgers in football saying “he does everything better than Brady”. But what about the MOST important thing? If Lebron IS really the goat, he would have won more than 4 titles in TWENTY YEARS! And it’s not like he had unbeatable competition and shit teams. He was playing weak comp by and large with STACKED teams. This is EASY math and it’s not adding up. Never did.
@@skap_attack Ya, and in Lebron’s case I think it’s even more ridiculous than in Rodgers’s case, just because a QB can only do so much to influence the game at the end of the day. Rodgers and Brees caught some bad breaks (Brees especially) where their team’s defenses completely folded and allowed some miracle play. A QB can do more to influence the game than a star positional player in baseball (Bonds and Trout being prime examples), but there isn’t a single team sport where the failure of a team falls more squarely on the star player(s) than basketball. It’s utterly absurd to pretend like Lebron had less help on the Heat than Kobe had on the Lakers. Plus they both played under all-time great coaches, so that variable goes out the window. Sure, prime Shaq was better than Big 3 Wade, but Shaq+Derek Fisher
Some people are just delusional and in denial of facts. I’ll be doing much more about Kobe. The fact people are not only pushing him out of the top 5, but trying to get him out of the top 10 is unreal to me.
Yeah I never understood Shaq getting called the most dominant player ever. I do think Shaq was the bigger reason they won the first ring but after that, him and Kobe were clearly on equal footing.
My only problem (not really) with this vid is that you didn’t include that moment where Kobe was shaking his head and calling Dwight Howard soft 😂. Sums the 🐍 Mentality up so well in one beautiful moment. Kobe locked him tf up after a rebound, Dwight elbowed him twice, then complained to the refs. Kobe didn’t flop at all either like 99% of todays NBA 😑
Kobe had it all. He lived in Tinseltown. He could have made movies, commercials and handsome guy so he would have no problem with that. That was not his goal his goal was championships He was here for 20 years and he could have done all those but that wasn't what he was meant to do. He took everything he did very very seriously 🐍💛💜 The Mamba mentality and a lot of his other books. I would advise anyone to read them because I'm much older than Kobe and I learned something😂😅
A masterclass of a video. Didn't find anything untruthful. The lies that are spread about Kobe are disgusting. As a fan of his work, this was AWESOME!!!
So basically, you are my spirit animal! I have been crushing narratives like these for years now, but I've never had the skills to make videos like this. Can you make a video on the bogus narratives Olajuwon had in his career before finally winning with ZERO all stars or all NBA teammates? Please and thank you
Thank you for defending Kobe’s honour, mainstream media buries his name (btw Kobe never lost to Denver) 🙏🏾🙏🏾 last choke series made me LMFAO 😂😂 subbed !!
I’m here for three primary reasons lol: to entertain and to destroy the overrated narrative of Lebron and the UNDERRATED Kobe Bean. Thanks for watching and subscribing! I appreciate you 🙏
The (Le)Media has been making a clear, conscious effort to diminish Kobe's legacy since he retired and upped the ante when he passed away. It's disgusting how aports talk has just devolved from actual analysis to corporate-inspired narratives, personal biases and straight up lies... absolutely embarrassing and degrading to the sport and culture of basketball.
Great stuff. I could've sensed this one coming. I've remained steadfast lbj nvr passed kobe but i seemed to have been in the minority for so many years.
Well I’ve been watching it live and fighting my ass off with people on these subject for 20 years lol. It’s time to try to spread the message to a larger audience lol. 🙏
Kobe has somehow become underrated in recent years. Does Kareem and Magic get penalized for playing together? I didn’t think so.
Completely agree. Not to mention Lebron with Wade for 2, Kyrie for one and AD for one. Oh and Steph with KD for 2.
Magic & Kareem is a very different story. for one, it was the era of superteams. **every** title contender had at least 2 HoFers on it. and Kareem's final MVP season was Magic's rookie year. they never shared their primes together like Shaq and Kobe did.
also 5 titles vs 3*
*2002 was a robbery and everyone knows it so that title gets a big, fat asterisk
This is sarcasm Kobe is the best most skilled most 60 point games
It's the Lebron fans who's been putting down Kobe. I heard some of them even take credits away from Kareem for playing with Magic, because Lebron's getting compared to Kareem in the all time ranking. Now they're trying to take credits away from Jordan for playing with Pippen. Unbelievable.
kobe the second goat
7:40 - 7:45
Even in the loss, Kobe faced his competitors and congratulated them.
We all know of a certain someone that would immediately do the walk of shame after losing a game.
Undeniably. We’ve seen it over and over again with bron. You know how much that loss killed Kobe. Yet he was a class act.
He learned that from Jordan… he always made sure to shake hands with all his opponents, Win or Loose. Sadly the Pistons showed him no respect in return, even after all the dirty plays… he def became a little more ruthless and a Monster on the court.
Isiah Thomas? Lol
LeSulk.
Lebron always gives props and does end of game interviews though
If an all NBA defensive player in three consecutive years scoring 30 points a game post season can be carried....
Anything is possible- Kevin Garnett
💯🛎😂🙏 ANYTHING IS POSSSSSSSIBLLLLLLE
Your channel is gonna blow tf up. Your delivery is epic and the Kobe love has a special place in my cold heart. Bravo sir! Can't wait for the next in the "The Last" series!
Thank you! 🙏 🙏 and may I say, if you love Kobe and hate Lebron, this is the exact channel for you 😂. When I’m adequately satisfied with my destruction of Lebron, I’m planning much more on Kobe. He and Lebron are perfect foils of one another. Same general era. One massively underrated and the other massively overrated. Thanks for watching! And stay tuned. The next installment in “The Last” series will be out within the next 48 hours 😂 🙏
it is The Lord's work in the face of lies and depravity, drew.
(i'm only half-joking ;o)
@@shaft9000 😏😉😂😂
@@skap_attack Yep good work! Another video idea id like to see is Kobe vs Duncan because media pushing that Duncan is better all time the Kobe now which is a absolute joke and some revisionist history
@Skap Attack Yeap this is the comment that made me subscribe. Lol
I’ve been a Kobe fan since his rookie year. Watched every game he played in 20 years. The man is very underrated nowadays. I don’t think Lebron can hold his shoes but the media is ranking him ahead of Kobe. Such a shame…
We’re on the same level here. I too have seen every game he ever played (regular season and playoffs). And I can confidently say, it’s. It particularly close. Kobe clears Lebron easily 🙏
@@skap_attack you leave out a lot of facts...for example Hakeem didn't dominate Shaq, in fact Shaq won their matchup but the Rockets just beat the Magic. It's a team game.
@@MikeHawk-yg3gk sorry but no. There’s 5 guys on a court and they play both ways, near 90% of the total. Nba superstars have always had the expectation that they win. That’s how they build their individual legacies. By taking their team to the promised land despite other factors. “Team game” 😂. The LeBum media narrative. I see you working tho 👍🏻
@@skap_attack what do you mean near 90%? Ok so if the 2 stars are equally matched but team A has another all star and their role players are better and team B just has their 1 star with mediocre role players, it's the star on team B's fault they lost? Why wasn't Hakeem winning in the 80s or early 90s? Why wasn't Shaq winning until Phil Jackson became his coach? According to you they should've because you pretty much said"you don't need a good team".
@@MikeHawk-yg3gk LeBronze Metal James had about the same supporting cast as Hakeem in 1994 that's what I find funny. The Hakeem question, I really don't think people realize how good Magic was with an without Kareem from the 80s up until 91. Or how good Portland was in the early 90s that West Hakeem had to deal would've been Tim Duncan if he didn't have Popovich an a Hall of Fame PG. Then 3 straight seasons you had 3 different bigs in the West win MVP Robinson Barkley & Olajuwon, then in 1995 he knocked off 3 60 win teams (PHX 59 Wins) then he swept his opponent in the Finals who were a 57 win team. Take all this on top of a pure basketball player standpoint Hakeem Olajuwon is easily a top 10 All-time Player. When the Greatest of All-Time left the game, Hakeem did what Ewing Shaq Barkley Malone Stockton Robinson Payton Miller an those guys were supposed to do an that's finally win a title. He did it both seasons, being a 6 seed in 1995. Remember take away one of the greatest coaches of all time an his hall of fame PG Tim Duncan is 2000s version of Hakeem Olajuwon which still is top 10.
O’Neal was finally ready to get swept again🤣😂, that killed me
Me to bro...
@SkapAttack is MY HERO for telling the truth...
God Bless you and him.
Kobe Bryant in 00-02 playoffs: 25.3/5.7/4.9 on 53% TS
Scottie Pippen in 96-98 playoffs: 17.6/7.4/5.0 on 50% TS
But MJ can't win without Pippen, and Kobe got carried by Shaq. Kobe was also arguably even more productive than first 3-peat Pippen (20.3/8.2/6.1 on 54% TS), and that's including Kobe's non-elite 00 season. If we included 03 Kobe instead of 00, the numbers wouldn't even be close
Yes! You are spot on
Pip on sui watch
Difference being MJ was never the Robin on his team. And truth is that 98 title run was as close to winning it without Pippen one could get. Kobe isn’t MJ.
@@TheGr8-1 You completely misunderstood his comment...
@@TheGr8-1 r/woosh
TheTRUTH about this channel is that it is criminally underrated. You sir are making some of the best basketball videos I have seen on youtube. Lots of hard facts with entertaining commentary. This is beautiful.
THANK YOU 🙏 ❤️ and many thanks for watching. I appreciate you.
I can't tell you how much I appreciate the sarcastic angle you take in your videos. Shaq carrying Kobe has always been the most numb-brained thing I've ever heard from sports fans.
and "LebRoN iS a tOp 5 lAkEr" and "' l EGO at"
not sure which is worse from a laker fan's perspective, but "l EGO at" is just a general travesty to the game itself from any perspective.
Let's take a peek at their Finals averages together, shall we?
Shaq: 34/14/3 on 60% eFG%
Kobe: 22/5/5 on 43% eFG%
@Chucky James Martin thats not considered being carried dude
@@king-ghost1027 Umm, than what is it? That's Shaq performing well above his usual self and Kobe playing well below his usual self
@@chuckyjamesamartin1968 soooo 22, 5 & 5 is considered being carried?? Lmaooo ok dude,,, the primary focus was feeding the ball to shaq I hope you know that ,, & that was young kobe,,, not even in his prime yet
Your channel is rapidly becoming a favorite of mine, esp after The Last Choke documentary. Imagining what would have been if their chip runs kept on going is the same as wondering if Michael would have stayed on the Bulls. Keep up the great work with your clips!
Many thanks for watching 🙏. And I agree. Kobe and Shaq not breaking up is one of all time great “would have, could haves” in NBA history. Along with, I agree with you, Jordan had he not retired for the year and a half in his early 30s and then played the 99 strike shortened season and 2000. Hypothetically they would have played young Duncan and THEN this Kobe Shaq team. Of course they’d have a different coach as Phil was out in Chicago and the the lakers. That would have been the most juicy storyline in NBA history. If Jordan and his bulls played Shaq, Kobe and Phil in the 2000 finals. Thanks again for watching, and I’m glad you’re enjoying the channel 🙏
@@skap_attack You got it. One more thing to think about with Chicago...how would Scottie's back have held up? MJ had to turn it on even more against Utah because of SP's back which was rapidly giving out at a moment's notice. Michael was exhausted after that series, yet having to go at it even harder the next year would have proven difficult. And then to most likely face SA with their rookie out of Wake Forest? Maybe everything happens for a reason, as they say.
@@jonnuanez7183 yeah. Honestly and the defensive capabilities of San Antonio with Robinson and Duncan. I don’t think the bulls win that series honestly. Tho, in fairness, I think pippen is gone and the bulls have retooled in some way. So Jordan likely would have had something different to work with than what they looked like in 1998….
Another good “what if” involving Kobe that I often ponder is if he never was traded from charlotte. The WEAK ass eastern conference that Lebron got to feast on for 15 years could have been Kobe’s. And he could have had the freedom to lead a team from a very young age. Have a team built around him from the start of his career instead of fitting himself into a team with Shaq THEN going through a full rebuild in his absolute prime. Who knows how many he wins, but I would expect he would have gotten to at least 6 or 7 still the way they conference was built. And can you imagine young Kobe with a bad team just trying to average 35 every year. Would have been fun. But as you said, perhaps everything happens for a reason…
@@skap_attack LOL Kobe would have been another Tracy McGrady if Charlotte would have kept him.
Big homie break dancing with the broom sent me to heaven😂😂😂
😏😉 😂
Thank you so much bro for keeping the truth about Kobe's greatness & dominance alive💯‼️
My pleasure 🙏 ❤️. And I’ll never stop!
Man !! the world needed this channel.
Thank you!!! 🙏 I appreciate you 🙏
LONG LIVE KOBE 8/24 🙏🏾
PLEASE STOP!! I can’t stop laughing!!! This is the greatest funniest video ever!!! Every time you showed Turbo breakdancing with the broom, I am just breaking out into laughter and everyone is wondering what is going on with me??? Kudos to you sir - masterful videos - especially the Last Choke series!!!!
😂 😂 I was dying while I was editing that every time I went to a Turbo cut 💀. And many thanks for tuning in!! I appreciate you 🙏
Anyone ever notice how they- the media- tried to snub Kobe? After he died they tried to slander him. When that failed they went to trying to void him out the conversation entirely. And Shaq, Barkeley, and that ilk...they are known to readily sign on to that sort of muckraking. It's always made me wonder what really happened to Kobe.
Wdym by what really happened?
It's the basketball "analysts" on tv being paid by klutch sports. That is the exactly the reason for Kobe being pushed out of the goat debate and a top 5 player of all time debate. These klutch sports people have injected Lebron into that conversation by pushing Kobe out. All anyone had to do over the last few yrs is watch and pay attention to what these klutch people have been saying. Shannon Sharpe, Kendrick Perkins, Nick Wright, etc.
It all started in Colorado... the league got leery of that situation... the media kept pressing his trips there for court etc... then the Malice at the Palace Happened and outside of sports centered highlights and he consistently doing the damn thing game after game where it forced them to say something about him... they couldn't wait to just say anything negative about him
"Other stars don't like him, his team mates don't like him, he can't draw talent to the team, he doesn't recruit because people don't like his game"
The non-sense was unbelievable... IMO Kobe has 1 knock against him... getting blown out in decisive games in the playoffs! Thats it
Are you like 5 years old? If anything the media pushed him FAR above than he belongs, we had people calling him the 2nd greatest player ever, I heard some calling him better than MJ, if Kobe is above your top 5 than you are overrating him and that’s a fact
@@roboninja3194bro just take LeBron’s nuts out of your mouth it’s embarrassing to watch 😂
Keep exposing Leavebron and sports mainstream media nonsense. I'm here for all of it
THANK YOU 🙏 ❤️
Shaq sure is proud of his rings... Don't tell him he could have won more.....
Shaq and Kobe both left a few on the table. If both of them could have found a way to coexist and age gracefully together, we could have been talking about 6 or 7 for that tandem.
As much as I would have loved to see that, would the contracts have worked out to sign enough role players? It's tough to keep a roster with both on the team.
@@skap_attackspot on
This channel is gonna grow daily man. Keep producing content like this. The media or “LeMedia” has to have an opposite. The law of polarity states this clearly. All of these paid goons in the media constantly spread propaganda about lebron. Belittling lebrons teamates and his competition. Diminishing Kobe’s legacy and of course Jordan’s legacy. You should do a video about the 2008 Olympics and how no one in the media talked about how Kobe was the undisputed leader and alpha on the team. With “king” James on it of course. Only took Ls before that year
I like it. Put it in my queue of videos to work on. Thank you for the suggestion 🙏. And many thanks for watching. I used to get so damn annoyed trying to watch espn with all of the media Lebron trolls on there spewing out the propaganda. I decided to try to start a channel as a means of self therapy 😂.
Love it man, you're one of the few who doesn't waste HALF the damn video trying not to offend people!
😂 I just accept that I likely WILL offend people and go from there 😂 🙏
fam love your page u a REAL ONE!!!! All these fake narratives man.....LIKE GOT DAMN...I share your page with my people they should be following. YOU are gonna be at the top soon keep going fam real talk!!!!
THANK YOU! I’m glad you’re enjoying and sharing. That’s why I do it. To expose these fake ass narratives! God knows espn won’t do it. Someone has to 😂. Thanks again for watching, and I’m glad you’re enjoying 🙏
@@skap_attack you legit exposing we need more like you all these fawkn false narratives never stop faM you legit on one 🙏🏾🐐
@@kkent4174 I appreciate you 🙏🙏🙏
Loved the editing in this video!😂😂 The time it must’ve taken to accumulate all the Shaq dancing clips. Also the slick shots at Queen James was fitting & hilarious.
Dude, your clips are as entertaining as they are informative and factual - free of the usual bias from the mainstream. Excellent work. Keep it up, my man. Subbed.
Thank you! 🙏. I’m glad you’re enjoying, and I’m thankful to have you on board 🙏
Great video , I’m so happy you made this video at this time. Kobe and Shaq were dominant. One dominated the perimeter the other the paint. Kobe is better than Lebron. Only perimeter player besides Jordan to win 3 in a row.
It was a challenging video for me to make, as I have nothing but love for Shaq. Especially as he and Kobe rekindle before Kob’s tragic passing. But I felt the video had to be made from Kobe’s perspective as the hero of the story. I grew up in that era. From 2000-2010, Kobe was as good in that decade as any other player in any decade ever aside from Mike. I really believe that. Didn’t win the MVPs because the media hated him. As for these two as duo, best tandem ever. Kobe was the best perimeter player alive and in prime. Shaq was the best front court player alive and in prime. Never been done before. Likely won’t ever again.
@Michael I think they also took the reigns of the “selfish ball hog” narrative. They always sided with Shaq.
@Michael you’re right
Thank you so much for speaking truth and showing Bean Love
Kobe gets trashed in the Media
It's awesome that you debunk the hate speech that goes against Kobe
@@royalsap4282 my absolute pleasure 🙏. And many thanks to you for tuning in ❤️.
Shaq getting swept got me dying 😂😂😂
😂 😂
great great video my friend
THANKS 🙏. And many thanks for watching 🙏.
Turbo from Breakin' 😎🤙🏾 I Loved that movie
GREAT FLICK! And a great broom scene for my usage here 😂 🙏
Just want to support my guy , keep it up!!! Let the truth out! Get these media exposed.
Kobe definitely became a star in 2000. But he was still a legitimate sidekick. With that said, by the 2001 season, he was legitimately a co-alpha. That’s what made them so dominant. It was a two headed monster by the 2001 season, he was a legitimate superstar and top-five player in the sport.
I Loveeeee the sarcasm 😂 Kobe top 3 all time easily
Funny you got Boogaloo shrimp dancing with the broom symbolizing Shaq getting swept 😂😂
😏😉😂🙏
Keep up the good work my brotha. LeMedia keeps trying to bury the greatness of Kobe and underrate him to put Le3-6on on a pedestal.
Sad and extremely transparent. Easy to blow holes through their pathetic lies 🙏 💪
Also Kobe is the only player since Jordan to win scoring titles and still makes all defense twice
BRO THIS IS THE BEST FUCKING VIDEO GIVING KOBE HIS PROPS IVE SEEN! NO LEBRON FAN STAYED FOR THIS ONE! THEY FLAGGED THIS!
There will be more to come on Kob. The most disrespected and hated all time great. We should be talking GOAT cases with him, instead they’re talking “barely top 10” smh.
Best NBA content creator ever. Thank you for this, well done.
Skap I mean this as a compliment. You remind me of Howard Cosell. You say what you think, and your delivery has that slow bite to it. The way you punch certain words really makes the facts you crank out all the more effective.
Keep up the great work.
Your videos are the best. 🤘
THANK YOU!! I’m glad you’re enjoying them 🙏 ❤
Oh man oh man this is an absolute masterpiece. THANK YOU SO MUCH for reminding all these puppets around. They think if they continue to repeat the same nonsense over and over it'll stick eventually. They debate MJ vs Lebron at EVERY opportunity they get as if it's gospel that they're the 2 at the top. MJ is #1, but when the f*** did Lebron pass Kobe?
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. Not every one is a mindless zombie that can be programmed by media. Kobe Bean Bryant is a stud. Lebron never wanted the smoke from him. Real ones know.
I watched the black mamba play and I promise you till today I've never seen ANYTHING like it. These boys nowadays think they're sweet, they're little children.
They love to talk how Kobe was "carried", but don't count all the HOFers Lebron has run to team up with over the years to win cupcake rings. The same people call KD a cupcake for joining GSW. They forget that a certain "King" set that precedent. Shaq needs to speak up more when these dumb debates come up. I get upset everytime they leave out Kob. The league ACTIVELY tries to diminish the guy's accomplishments.
Oh and thanks for the laughs in between haha. Sorry, I don't usually write this much. Tired of media.
If I didn’t know any better, I would think I wrote this comment myself with some kind of a burner account 😂. You sound EXACTLY like me. The same EXACT shit I’ve been ranting about for 20 years. It goes without saying, I of course agree with you. I can see a case for Jordan, Kareem and Russell above Kobe. That’s legitimately it. And while due to resume, I would likely have Kareem at 2, I’ll take Kobe in my third spot all time. And if we’re talking about simply “eye test”. Or how complete a player was. Or what the peak was, I only have Jordan above Kobe. And even that is WAAAY closer than anyone cares to discuss or admit. One of the reasons I go at Lebron so much is because I’m so fed up with the lie that he “easily cleared” Kobe years ago. I’ve been watching ALL of those years, Lebron NEVER cleared Kobe. Thanks for watching! And keep fighting the good fight!! 🙏 🐍 > 👑
@@skap_attack Hahaha yesss! This video needs to go viral man. I wish I had clout, I'd make it blow up. This made my damn day. People need to hear the truth and activate their brains for once!
Keep up the good work, 10000% in support!
This Channel need to blow all the way up the view charts ! Just found this guy and the videos are premium! Keep the content coming !
THANK YOU so much for the kind words and for tuning in to my channel. I appreciate you 🙏 ❤️
Kobe took a leap that year they won the title. Shaq took a leap. It's almost like Phil Jackson had something to do with it... When Phil got the big job in Chicago, Jordan at that time was a scoring machine and seen by many as the league's best but also as a guy who didn't know how to win the big one. Phil's second ever season as a head coach and it's the start of a threepete. And he gets another one then quits the Bulls. Two years later he goes to LA. Shaq at that time was a scoring machine and seen by many as the league's best but also as a guy who didn't know how to win the big one. Phil's first season back in the coaches chair was the start of another threepete. Kobe wasn't the reason Shaq won, Phil was. Phil's cheat code triangle offence and his ability to get larger than life megastars to put their ego's aside and buy into his team philosophy made legends out of Jordan and Shaq. Honestly I have never seen an NBA player as good as Shaq was in those three finals MVP years. He was simply unstoppable. Better than Jordan was for either of his threepetes. Obviously not better career vs career but in my eyes from 2000-2003 Shaq may have been The GOAT of basketball.
Also this guy is being intentionally misleading by showing their averages across 5 finals to argue that Shaq didn't carry Kobe to those three rings. If you just go by the three finals where they won the stat's are as follows;
Shaquille O'Neal: 35.9 PPG, 15.2 RPG, 3.5 APG on 59.5% shooting
Kobe Bryant: 22.0 PPG, 6.1 RPG, 5.1 APG on 42.5% shooting
Shaq was without question the man in those finals.
Just like Kobe's killer instinct and Shaq's dominance, your channel is amazing mon. Keep at it keep up the good work and bless up yourself.🙏
Realistically the best duo ever imo. Kareem and Magic as well as Scottie and Jordan were more accomplished. But no tandem was more elite than these two.
And THANK YOU 🙏. I’m glad you’re enjoying, and thanks so much for watching 🙏
I hope your channel grows expeditiously
Thank you 🙏
Excellent work, sir. May your channel continue to grow!
THANK YOU 🙏 ❤️
The people who claim shaq carried Kobe never bring up thay shaq couldn’t win with 2 all stars before Kobe emerged. Neither got carried both were leaders of that team an arguably the best duo ever. Your edits are incredible btw 😂 I can’t stop cracking up watching
Had Kobe not had Shaq from 1996 to 2004, he would have never won any titles as the main man because he had no idea how to win without Jackson's guidance/leadership and Shaq's dominance. You would have seen Afro Kobe on his own team fold up in the playoffs with double teams on him that he never faced because Shaq was on his squad. Kobe never had the primary focus of the defense because Shaq existed on the Lakers. Y'all stay delusional though.
Both of them couldn't win until Phil Jackson arrived. They had the weakest competition in the finals at that.
@@QuestionEverything562 is that why he won in 2009-10 without shaq on his team? Your acting like Kobe didn’t dominate doubles and triples his whole career, his 2008-10 runs were built of the most ridiculous shot making I’ve ever seen
@@QuestionEverything562 same thing can be said for any great who played alongside a another co star. Why is the narrative only for kobe ? Shaq got swept in the WCF how many times ?
@@boxtalk2254yes with an all star big man and it took him to finally learn how to win and utilize his teammates.
Truth seeker here, Keep up the good work Skap!, educate those young bloods.
Stay calm while i go grab a bucket of water .
Dude, YOUR ON FIRE !!
New format is really going off !!
Your doing an important thing.
The world needs peoope who chalkenfe media lies.
The medias multibillion $$ BRAINWASHING machine is coming to an end.
Keep going man.
Thanks for your dedication to the truth.
Keep these coming bro!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥 you killing these squares!
Thank you! And thanks for watching 🙏
Well done
Thank you 🙏 🙏🙏
@@skap_attack You are so welcome! I was thinking if you want to, you can do a video about the change of game rules. I'm so convince those rules were changed for certain players like hand checking. I was thinking about it.
@@tjc2993 that’s a fantastic idea! I will absolutely put that in my queue of upcoming videos. I’ve been meaning to do one on the era specific changes and how todays nba is MUCH quicker and easier to score in. I can wrap the rules changes right into that.
Crazy thing is that if Shaq would have shot 70% instead of 52% in freethrows his scoring numbers would have gone through the roof. Thats how dominant he was even without a jumpshot.
"if" has no relevance.
@@remnant8898true opinion. if mj had 6 rings he would have been better than kobe
@@youngboy2pacdrake MJ does have 6 rings and is better than Kobe.
@@remnant8898 maybe better, but kobe have 7 rings mj only 4
@@youngboy2pacdrake What the hell are you talking about? Kobe could NEVER be better than MJ, he's the diet version.
Kobe didn't bother to use all available chemical resources. He was THAT ARROGANT. LeBron pretended to want to join Wade when in reality he wanted to take a step he could only take in Miami. E P O.
Man I'm loving yo posts.
🙏❤️
Man thank you for these great videos! Ve bwwn trying to tell people this about kobe and all rhe false narratives about LEFRAUAD JAMES for years and everyone always say im hating! Keep up rhe gret work!!!
THANK YOU 🙏 for watching! I appreciate you 🙏
I loved watching Shaq dominate 3 quarters then Kobe closing while Shaq watched. I was there. Kobes defense back then was nutty. His defense, and closing was unreal. Penny couldnt close and his defense was not even close to Kobe. I love MJ. Kobe is my Goat though. Im old. I watched Magic, Bird, Barkley, MJ. Still think Kobe is the best player ever. We need a Barkley vid. MFers dont know how good the man was. Id take prime barkley over lebum any day.
My guy! From a true day one Kobe fan - not posthumously - thank you, thank you, thank you! Been saying this sh*t for years now. Bean was never a coat tail rider. You MASTERFULLY laid out the argument. This vid is appreciated.
No, THANK YOU for watching 🙏. And for backing and repping Kob. The most underrated, disrespected player in nba history. We should be talking about this cat in GOAT conversations yet the narrative on him has become “barely top 10”. It’s disgusting. And I have plenty more to say on this subject… 🙏
Another good video....keep'em coming
I don't want to short charge Shaq because he was incredible, but I don't like the Lebron fans who undermined Kobe's contribution in their 3peat. They were neck to neck in those championships, Kobe contributed more in those West team battles and Shaq feasted more in the finals.
He feasted on the west teams because shaq got all the attention.
@@judahmourneth3211sure... and Eddie Jones wasn't feasting on anyone playing along Shaq...
@@drosales43 again, show
Me the FGA between the two.
@@judahmourneth3211 Eddie Jones FG% was like 46% when he was on the Lakers... his stats were like 15/2/2 he was absolutely not lighting the world on fire with Shaq playing next to him "feasting on the West"
Kobe was a straight baller, developed on the fly with hard work and dedication to his craft... so just stop with FG% as if it's the defining metric of all time...
@@drosales43on how many shot attempts.
Put some respect on Kobe's name dammit. But to make lebron seem greater than he is, lebron fan boys gotta create a narrative to diss kobe.
Keep up the good work my man!
Absolutely 🙏 💪. And thank you for watching!! 🙏
Mentioning that Shaquille O’Neal was swept seems like an attempt to imply that he is the reason for his team losing each time. I remember those 1990s Lakers teams that were coached by Dell Harris. He was a terrible coach and could not recognize the talent he had on his roster, nor figure ways to put them in the best position to win. This is why Phil Jackson was brought in, Which turned out to be the right move.
Honesty this channel is on the Joseph Vincent Level... different approach obviously and its just plain facts laced with the humor its brilliant! Got my sons watching you and some friend's now too!
Wow! Many thanks for such high praise. I don’t watch many other channels, but Joseph Vincent is one I follow. I’m glad you are enjoying my stuff, and thanks so much for watching! 🙏
Joseph Vincent is not a hater of any athlete. He puts up the highlighs and people can decide for themselves.
@@xaviervega468 I’m not a “hater” either. I have takes on certain athletes that I back up with facts. I love Joseph Vincent’s work. Love his editing skills and his storytelling. But Vincent, along with basically every other “sports CZcamsr” just remains static neutral. The reason this is, in my opinion, isn’t to “let others make up their mind” or “decide for themselves”. It’s so they can grab as many subscribers as possible and not “offend” anyone. I don’t view myself as a “sports CZcamsr”. I don’t care about subscribers or views. I greatly appreciate EVERYONE who has subscribed to my channel and who watches my videos. But I’m not going to make a single piece of content to pander to or try to illicit viewers. I have takes. Stories of my own to tell that I find important. That’s what I’m doing. Neither you or anyone else has to be here.
@@skap_attack bro... you keep blazin your skills and story telling for this channel and when I found it was "Perfect Timin" nobody does it like Skap Attack... nobody!
@@xaviervega468 i said a different approach... the editing is in my opinion on that level
Imagine averaging 29 points and 13 rebounds but only being selected All-NBA third team!! 😲
That era of bigs was on an entirely different level.
2001 Kobe was goated, I really think if you replace Shaq with a starter quality big the Lakers with their elite three and D lineups could've still won against the Sixers. Kobe struggled in game 1 but when you examine the series, Kobe was just as good if not better overall than Iverson was, especially when you factor in defensive impact and efficiency.
This proves the fact not argument that 90's basketball surpass this Era of basketball if shaq average 29ppg and 13rpg while going up against jordan, hakeem, David Robinson. Karl malone yeah this era of basketball is far more superior than the 90's
Smh, what a dim take. Unreal....
@@QuestionEverything562 You talking about me??
In the 2001 finals when comparing Iverson and Kobe:
- Kobe was more efficient from three
- Kobe was more efficient from the field
- Kobe was the far superior free throw shooter
- Kobe averaged more rebounds
- Kobe averaged more assists
- Kobe averaged far more stocks (Steals + blocks)
- Kobe was the far superior defender
- Kobe averaged nearly 25 PPG on roughly 11 less shot attempts per game than Iverson, without Shaq there Kobe has more ease to the basket and easily averages 32+ for the series just on added volume alone.
That's not even getting into the fact that Fisher and Lue gave Iverson all sorts of trouble and that the Lakers shot nearly 40% from three in the 2001 playoffs. The series would go slightly longer, but the Lakers were the superior team even if Shaq was replaced with a starter quality big. The Lakers instantly become a far better free throw shooting team with Shaq gone.
I'm not saying Kobe was superior to Shaq at this time, I'm saying the 2001 Lakers were one of the Greatest teams ever, if not the greatest and Kobe was the better offensive player and defensive player compared to Iverson in that series, despite getting off to a poor start in game 1.
To make it simple, Kobe was a more efficient version of Iverson this series but with far better playmaking and worlds better defense. The added offensive firepower from the additional lakers cast would prove too much for a largely offensively inept Sixers squad.
I didn't really feel like explaining all this, but yeah. 2001 Kobe is one of the greatest playoff performers of all time, but somehow gets very heavily disrespected by fans who aren't familiar with his career.
@@themightyruler1319 Kobe was very good defensively in that Finals, his defense on AI was really good. It's what you said about Shaq that is really dim. Kobe struggled in that series offensively at times, Shaq didn't. Kobe would have lost that series without Shaq. You have no idea what Shaq did in that series, nor how the 76ers had no answer for his dominance despite their entire defensive game plan designed around Shaq, not Kobe. Kobe struggled offensively in that series with Eric Snow's physicality on him. You put up all those numbers in juxtaposition to Iverson's who was an inefficient high volume chucker. Kobe put up 41% FG% with SHAQ on his team! Imagine if Shaq wasn't there, imagine the 76ers entire defensive gameplan was on Kobe then.... You don't know how to properly analyze early 2000s Kobe, and definitely don't understand Shaq's dominant must double team at all times impact.
Never like the term "Goated". That's this generation's way of dumbing down and handing out trophies to anyone who makes an ESPN highlight. There's one GOAT and his name is Michael fcking Jeffery to the motherfcking Jordan.
Shaq didn't carry Kobe but he was the best player during that 3-peat.
was he the best player ? or rather he had no competition at his position
Both. What competition Kobe had?? All the best wing players at the time were in the east.
@@judahmourneth3211 You do realize 10 of the championships were collected by the Lakers and spurs right ? 99-2010
and best defense teams were in the west
@@JIX9ISLER1986 and they sucked offensively. Name me some wing players that was good offensively around that time to put the pressure on Kobe. When the 03 spurs
Finally go some good wing players they got swept. Or the 04 pistons. Actually, notice both years when Kobe was more offensively aggressive the lakers lost.
@@judahmourneth3211 tracy played in the west in late 00s so did Allen Iverson
Carmelo Anthony ect ect lets not pretend
shaq had no player at his position in the 00s they were all in the 90s
Man do I love your channel. I remember they were doing the same goat talk thing with Shaq at some point
Yea. There’s been A LOT of premature talks about players over the years. Only one guy they’ve gone to lengths to discredit and knock out of the conversation so excessively…Kobe.
@@skap_attack And it's the one guy who actually deserves to be in the conversation. I can't wait until Lefraud finally retires so they'll stop with the fake narrative about him being the GOAT, like they stopped with Shaq... and so many others
This had to be said! Great video!
Thank you!! 🙏🙏🙏
Who actually believes that Kobe was carried? Is that really such a popular opinion? I thought the joke was that Shaq got carried by Kobe lol
It's an extremely popular media narrative and a lot of casuals run with it. Anyone who watched knows its pure BS though
I don’t know if THAT specifically is the narrative any longer. BUT there’s a general consensus that Kobe’s rings “don’t count” as much as other players. And it’s legitimately the worst narrative in the sports history in my opinion.
@@skap_attack I think it helps them prop up Bron and discredit Kobe's bid for GOAT
Media who constantly has to remind everyone that Lechoke is somehow the goat.
@@TheForkOnTheLeftist 10000000% 🛎️ 🛎️ absolutely spot.
It’s mind-boggling to me that anybody can call Lebron the GOAT when, over the course of twenty seasons, he just BARELY won two consecutive Championships once, on a stacked super team with two other superstars and HOF role players, needing arguably the greatest (and most miraculous) shot in NBA history to make it happen. MJ three-peated twice with less help while playing in an era with more all-time great teams and players, and Kobe did it with only one other superstar on his team in a loaded Western Conference. Having Lebron as the GOAT is the ultimate clown take. 😂😂
Yes, YES, YESSS 🛎️💯. Like people watching him just yelling eye test to the mountain tops. Same as people watching Aaron Rodgers in football saying “he does everything better than Brady”. But what about the MOST important thing? If Lebron IS really the goat, he would have won more than 4 titles in TWENTY YEARS! And it’s not like he had unbeatable competition and shit teams. He was playing weak comp by and large with STACKED teams. This is EASY math and it’s not adding up. Never did.
@@skap_attack Ya, and in Lebron’s case I think it’s even more ridiculous than in Rodgers’s case, just because a QB can only do so much to influence the game at the end of the day. Rodgers and Brees caught some bad breaks (Brees especially) where their team’s defenses completely folded and allowed some miracle play. A QB can do more to influence the game than a star positional player in baseball (Bonds and Trout being prime examples), but there isn’t a single team sport where the failure of a team falls more squarely on the star player(s) than basketball. It’s utterly absurd to pretend like Lebron had less help on the Heat than Kobe had on the Lakers. Plus they both played under all-time great coaches, so that variable goes out the window. Sure, prime Shaq was better than Big 3 Wade, but Shaq+Derek Fisher
The most dominant sure did get swept a lot
My favorite channel
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Excellent entertainment and facts being dropped 🫳 🎤love it!!!!!
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Nah, the dude moonwalk-sweeping's first entry, ending with the transition effect was a true entertainment masterpiece
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You make the best videos Skap 💪🏾
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Incredible work man here before 1mil views and 250k subs
THANK YOU!! 🙏 and we’ll see. I’m just going to put out good content that means a lot to me, and we’ll see what happens 🙏 ❤️
Shaq did win Finals MVP in the 3 peat. Kobe wanted to be the man and eventually he did win 2 rings without stacking the deck
The guy dancing with the broom has me dying!!!!!
Those Kobe highlights are insane!!!
Great watch.
If only I had that Mamba metality 😂😂
We could all use some mamba in us…
You laid it out perfectly with facts and numbers, YET people will still say he was carried for 3 rings lol
Some people are just delusional and in denial of facts. I’ll be doing much more about Kobe. The fact people are not only pushing him out of the top 5, but trying to get him out of the top 10 is unreal to me.
@skap_attack right, they just make up stuff when it comes to Kobe.
@@gifi11 sad
Yeah I never understood Shaq getting called the most dominant player ever.
I do think Shaq was the bigger reason they won the first ring but after that, him and Kobe were clearly on equal footing.
Great breakdown.
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Alright alright. I am subscribed after this video my guy
THANK YOU 🙏. And welcome on board. Glad to have you!
Skap, you put out the BEST vids ! Your perspective is 2nd to none. o7
My only problem (not really) with this vid is that you didn’t include that moment where Kobe was shaking his head and calling Dwight Howard soft 😂.
Sums the 🐍 Mentality up so well in one beautiful moment. Kobe locked him tf up after a rebound, Dwight elbowed him twice, then complained to the refs. Kobe didn’t flop at all either like 99% of todays NBA 😑
I’m planning MUCH more Kobe content. My two favorite topics and the two things I know the most about: Lebron is overrated. Kobe is underrated.
Kobe had it all. He lived in Tinseltown. He could have made movies, commercials and handsome guy so he would have no problem with that. That was not his goal his goal was
championships
He was here for 20 years and he could have done all those but that wasn't what he was meant to do. He took everything he did very very seriously 🐍💛💜
The Mamba mentality and a lot of his other books. I would advise anyone to read them because I'm much older than Kobe and I learned something😂😅
Excellent video once again. His '01 and '02 titles should count as legitimate superstar championships but mUh fInAlZ mVp
Facts are without Shaq, Kobe would have 2 rings. Shaq without Kobe would only have 1 ring.
Beautiful.
A masterclass of a video. Didn't find anything untruthful. The lies that are spread about Kobe are disgusting. As a fan of his work, this was AWESOME!!!
THANK YOU 🙏 and many thanks for watching! Those of us who know, know. 🐍 🐐
You are a great storyteller!.
Thank you very much! I’m glad you enjoyed 🙏
Thank you, sir.
My pleasure. Thanks for watching 🙏❤️
So basically, you are my spirit animal! I have been crushing narratives like these for years now, but I've never had the skills to make videos like this. Can you make a video on the bogus narratives Olajuwon had in his career before finally winning with ZERO all stars or all NBA teammates? Please and thank you
I can and will! Thank you for the kind words by the way. And also for tuning in. I appreciate you 🙏
Thank you for defending Kobe’s honour, mainstream media buries his name (btw Kobe never lost to Denver) 🙏🏾🙏🏾 last choke series made me LMFAO 😂😂 subbed !!
I’m here for three primary reasons lol: to entertain and to destroy the overrated narrative of Lebron and the UNDERRATED Kobe Bean. Thanks for watching and subscribing! I appreciate you 🙏
I'm so glad I get to hear LeBron in interviews, otherwise, I would have never known his greatness and goat status.
The (Le)Media has been making a clear, conscious effort to diminish Kobe's legacy since he retired and upped the ante when he passed away.
It's disgusting how aports talk has just devolved from actual analysis to corporate-inspired narratives, personal biases and straight up lies... absolutely embarrassing and degrading to the sport and culture of basketball.
Great stuff.
I could've sensed this one coming.
I've remained steadfast lbj nvr passed kobe but i seemed to have been in the minority for so many years.
I’m gonna promote that message because it’s stone cold facts.
Man you're the only guy that explained this and lebron accurately
Well I’ve been watching it live and fighting my ass off with people on these subject for 20 years lol. It’s time to try to spread the message to a larger audience lol. 🙏
Preach
Teach them all
Great as usual 🎉 Kobe has become disrespected in this ”Leflop era”
Thank you K8/24 deserves this recognition
NOTHING BUT FACTS 💯💯💯💯
Great video.
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