@@stevelee5724lol its absolutely not an Aussie accent. It’s the same accent but with a vowels swapped around: - I becomes U - A becomes E Ect (Obviously many exceptions but that’s a simple explanation. Eg. Aussies say ‘fashionable’. Kiwis say ‘feshenabul’ Aussies say ‘hey bro’ Kiwis say ‘hey brew’ Love the kiwi accents. Lots of people don’t but I’m a huge fan.
lol its absolutely not an Aussie accent. It’s the same accent but with a vowels swapped around: - I becomes U - A becomes E Ect (Obviously many exceptions but that’s a simple explanation. Eg. Aussies say ‘fashionable’. Kiwis say ‘feshenabul’ Aussies say ‘hey bro’ Kiwis say ‘hey brew’ Love the kiwi accents. Lots of people don’t but I’m a huge fan.
The Russians were really interested in other nations and people. This was a great movie about how Catherine the Great sent a Russian ship to Japan to return some Japanese shipwrecked fishermen to their homes. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreams_of_Russia czcams.com/video/trNxyPYu1uI/video.html. My cousins are Taranaki Irish/Maori. My Irish uncle was on tankers in WW2 and he settled in New Plymouth married a Maori lady and stayed.
Thanks again, you are too generous. It is one of my favorite episodes too. I did my Air Force basic training up there and absolutely love the area. I'm sure you will enjoy this weekend's episode.
I don’t think Russian forces occupied Paris. Wellington defeated the French at Waterloo. There may have been a coalition force that temporarily occupied parties for a while
Fun fact: Maori are wanting the St Petersburg museum to return all of the artifacts. Russia has refused due to the tribe being wiped out by another tribe not a decade after the meeting. Good on them.
@@user-lf2jh2ru9fThe celts want thier land back from the Anglo Saxons who the Roman's wanted it back from who the picts wanted it back. They act like they were hard done bye
Don't get too caught up only in the Soviet Russia history. The history of the Russian empire is one of the most fascinating histories in the world to me ( but I might be biased). FYI Russia was the only heir to the Byzantine Empire after the fall of Constantinople (1453)... It came close to liberating it from the Ottomans in the 1917, as the secret protocol was already issued with Entente that Constantinople (modern day Istanbul) was coming back to Russia... The advancement of the Russian Imperial army was scheduled for April, but the Revolution had happened in February (1917)...
This needs to be mentioned in schools. Nice to see not every one was out empire building. Just wanting to know about other people and places strikes me as a noble cause.
A little correction, there were no nationalities back then, only "narodnost'" at best which translates to "folks"( or close to it), which back then was only divided by different religions and/or spoken languages... If you were an orthodox Christian (Russian orthodoxy which was inherited from the Byzantine Empire) and spoke Russian, you were Russian. So Bellingshausen was considered to be Russian. As "Nationalities" is a modern day invention which came into Russia with the Octobrists revolution of 1917. Regardless, he was not Estonian, he was of German descent.
Fun fact: Bellingzhouzen (sp) is described as an "astronomer, a great navigator", yet Kupe or any of the original Captains from the great fleets who were also astronomers and even greater navigators get ignored.
Fun fact: the video isn't about them. I could go on about great navigators for hours but this story was particular to him. Just because he isn't your race doesn't mean you get your undies in a twist. Think before you type
@@epigwaitthistory while I realise the subject content is not about Kupe, almost every mention of Maaori in this piece is derogatory whether "unconsciously" or not. Assuming my race due to the content of my comments seems like another fine example of "unconscious bias". Which, coming from a content creator is also highly unusual. I'll happily watch your Kupe or Great Fleet content, care to provide a link?
@@Kult365 This channel are recordings taken from a radio broadcast, so he can't produce something from request or magically produce something that doesn't exist. Also information about such people is pretty thin on the ground as they had no written language so producing anything like this about them would be a stretch. This also seems very complimentary of the Māori, what did you perceive as derogatory?
This has been fabulous - but how please does it fit in with actions of the Welleslesy brothers in their establishment - & ongoings - of The New Zealand Company?
I was hesitant to click on this video because I thought it would be another horrific story about Europeans slaughtering Natives. What a pleasant surprise! Thanks for sharing this, had never heard of this expedition. I read more about it on the internet and saw the drawings and artifacts, all very fascinating.
@@petshopox @DardanellsBy108, that is so true. All we hear is how bad Europeans were to natives. Simply untrue. Maori were saved from their own demise by the British and Europeans. The average life of Maori was around mid 20s. The practiced slavery, cannibalism, infanticide, and were living a stone-age existence. The data is out there but it is suppressed by polical and self-interest. There is no money in the truth.
Not so savage as 1 would have us believe? The Russians leave just before a genocide. Returning with tattooed heads as trophies!! Remind me who the savages are??🤣😂
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@@stphnmaunsell89think about the actions of cooks rabble , and poor diplomacy , it speaks for itself .let alone the seed sowing Portuguese on the east coast pre dating cook, do you really think these people were honourable?????
@@evanhawkins6186 Ukraine was shelling the Russian speaking population since 2014 when the CIA backed a coup in Ukraine and took down the democratically elected government to install a US puppet. Why do you think you never hear the other side of the story all we hear is that one day Putin woke up and decided to invade a neighbouring country even though he knew that it could of brought Russia to its knees. NATO pushing towards Russias borders was another big reason. Can you imagine Russia or China building military bases in Mexico? Mexico would cease to exist. The USA invaded a country half way around the world just because of so called 911 that killed 2000 people well the Ukrainian government Have killed more than 15000 Russian speaking civilians all because they didn't agree with the puppet installed government in Kiev and asked Moscow for help. Google search 2014 Odessa massacre when Ukrainians burned over 200 peaceful Russian protesters in a building the lucky ones that tried to get away were shot dead or jumped to their death, at first reports were that their were about 50 people until they cleaned up the rubble. This is one of many many instances of Ukrainians killing Russian speaking population it's just that we can all agree the media biased they don't report on anything that happens to Russians but push everything down our throats in Ukraine.
This is friggin fascinating !!! All these beautiful story's the colonials probably preferred to keep swept under the carpet ? It's still leaves me the question , how many White culture's invaded another culture's country and successfully intergrated ? Thankyou for sharing 🙃🥴😎
Great as a New Zealander 55 years+ First time I have been made aware of this . This can be used as a measure of our “Political correct” Education system
25 year old kiwi here. I don't think it has anything to do with our "education system" it's just not the most useful history to learn . Idk I bad never heard of it either tho and it's very fascinating
@@evanhawkins6186 On the contrary it is one of the most useful history to learn. Especially with the modern day hysteria and politics. You know exactly what I'm talking about. The west was always framing Russia in a certain light hence why you would never get stories like that being told in our educational system. That's the whole point. It was framed that way deliberately by the British Crown FYI...
From 1732 to 1867, the Russian Empire laid claim to northern Pacific Coast territories in the Americas. Russian colonial possessions in the Americas are collectively known as Russian America (Russian: Русская Америка, romanized: Russkaya Amerika; 1799 to 1867). It consisted mostly of present-day Alaska in the United States, but also included the outpost of Fort Ross in California, and three forts in Hawaii, including Russian Fort Elizabeth. Russian Creole settlements were concentrated in Alaska, including the capital, New Archangel (Novo-Arkhangelsk), which is now Sitka. -Wikipedia
That must have been such a shock for those isolated and near stone age Maoris way back then, seeing such advanced technology (for its time) would have blown their minds.
It's amazing so many that people in NZ seen to have that incorrect opinion of what NZ was like. Mind you there's been a converted effort in recent times to paint that picture. Did you know that a European settlement was established in the south island in the 1790s and built the first sailing ship of European design, the "Providence". Before 1810 maori chiefs had travelled to Sydney and London, and two entire tribes in the north island had become Christians after their chiefs were converted on their travels overseas. It was them who invited Marsden to give his famous 1st sermon in NZ in 1814, but he was preaching to the converted. Mission stations and schools were established before 1820. Several chiefs purchased sailing ships and started international trade with their own ships. Commander Henry Williams of the royal navy arrived in 1822 to take over the missions. He set up missions and schools in the north island in the 1820s. By 1830 there were printing presses producing bibles in Maori, and there was a regular maori language newspaper. Trade had increased to the point where one Waikato tribe had a fleet of 40 sailing ships a d was trading with north and south America, Europe, England, Japan & Australia. Chiefs were sending their sons to European universities. Many chiefs dressed in European clothing and had European houses. All that was in the 1820s and early 30s. In 1834 maori selected a national flag and presented it to king William the 4th of England who happily recognised it. In 1835 a group of representative chiefs, working with Henry Williams and James Busby, developed and issued the NZ declaration of independence which established a federation of the united states of NZ (using the local word tribes to describe the states, but describing those tribes as comprising all those who come to settle in NZ. This declaration was sent to many natyti recognise including France, the USA, and England. King William again happily recognised this. As he signed it and placed his royal seal on it to confirm he recognised the freedom, independence, and sovereignty of NZ, he stated "That will keep the snakes out" The first European explorers to trek overland down the west coast of the south island, Heaphy, Fox and Brunner, wrote in their diaries the following: It was not possible to enter a single valley on our journey without finding that every Maori in it was a Christian, had a copy of the scriptures in their own language which they could read, wanted you to baptise them, and had never met a white man before." This was the result of maori to maori evangelisation & education after first learning at the mission schools. Marsden wrote "no people has ever embraced Christianity in the way that the maori people have".
@@MacMcConnellNZThe sealers and whalers wanted nothing to with Marsden aka "The Flogging Parson" known for his brutality in Sydney.The moari liked baccy and arrack rum and muskets not some Whiteman with a book ..
? No it was exactly like that. The maori culture was in a great dearth of material wealth and had a very limited structure and was isolated in a region with only their own people. Seeing the europeans would have been like seeing aliens in every way, phisically, culturally and materially. The maori couldnt conceive the origins of even simple things like the leather boots or netal buttons on the saliors coats. The maori were cunning and observant and in general not dumb.. They just had a primative isolated culture.. You can see the maori quickly figured out how the game was to be played. Polynesians upon european contact were generally observed as being intellegent and curious. The tahitians within 10 years had created a constitutional monarchy based on what english hat told them of their own. The dumbness we observe in many maori or polynesians these days is not a historical thing .. Its a product of moden society. Probably social collapes post contact, death disease and breakdown of social cohesion among the peopke due to cultural change.
@@Taongapuoromaori You'd have to go back to the late stone age in Europe (about 5000 years ago) to find a similar level of technology. What is great about finding pre-metal cultures in the modern era is that it gives a sense of what prehistoric cultures in places like Europe may have been like. We talk about the stone age and artifacts of stone capture modern people's attention but they must have had a whole lost tradition of wood and plant fibres which if you look at traditional Maori culture are the dominant part of the culture rather than the rarer stone items including all the greenstone artworks.
@@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367i would agree with most of what you say,although only some maori lacked resources and others were wealthy with abundance,maori drew maps,painted,practiced and understood astrology,and of course navigation was forefront...some of many things we weren't taught about in school 🤦 the exact same people moved to rapanui from rarotonga/tahiti and had rongorongo scriptures and were great sculptures 🤔 but commonly the culture and religious belief system played a key role in prohibiting many things right through the pacific,war was a major player in the downfall to most and progression was reduced dramatically,for some it was reduced indefinitely,it is well known the portrayal of many people has been exaggerated,its a colonising ritual
Maori were navigators of the seas, they sailed to all.corners of the earth, Russia wasnt a stranger to maori they were already trading with each other , this is in maori moteatea and waiata that maori sailed to many countries to trade ceturies before the colonizers arrived, guarantee Russia have historical records of trading with maori
@@epigwaitthistory Seems the youtube algorithm recently decided to share this video with a wider audience, I myself ended up here inadvertently! Found it to be a really interesting historical encounter though.
the first time i heard of this story was another source where the russians only came to nz by accident due to severe weather..not an intentional journey as this video describes
@@epigwaitthistory I'd like to add 70% of all native forests were cut down by the British and the maori could not and still can not live off anymore. The maori language was beaten out of as many people as possible especially in schools where maori had to learn a new language if they were to educate themselves and get a good job (assuming they were accepted) and was only gifted back less than 50 years ago in the maori language act of 1987 as a cute little present, and a bit of their culture to paint our concrete jungles with. New Zealand is a new society today and a fruitful one at that. But the British being the maori people's savior is a disgusting perspective commonly accepted by the majority. Great video tho, nga mihi 👍
@@lbjay8914 the first Polynesians/maori that arrived to New Zealand burnt down 40% of the forests in the first 200 years of being there. Humans have done a lot of damage to this land
@@kezw2669 although 40% being burned down is not supported by scholars, I agree with the rest. That is the proper way to look at everything. Humans have a terrible history altogether. I am just very passionate about Maori not being the only bad guys in the history of Aotearoa. As all I hear from people is what the downfall of MAORI was. And I won't have that be the case. We are all flawed humans with flawed pasts yet maori people seem to be the only ones still at loss. At loss of land, at loss of culture, at loss of community, and at loss of a fair narrative. While in my opinion maori need to try harder to combat where they are in society, period. I believe generational trauma is among many things we look over far too greatly. It's a complex issue and all I want is for everyone to love each other and understand exactly your point. We ALL were no saints. Perhaps my comment wasn't the best way to do that but his reply proves my point on how Maori people are viewed. Hurts a lot my friend. I am Maori.
Majority of Tsar governors of then Russian Alaska were Finns then under that regime . . same as Finns were in main white Russia forces high command against _ _ _ ish banker Bolshevik 'red' forces . . that civil war there sinister
IMHO the Russians have a history of being the least racially prejudiced among all Europeans. Had they took part in the colonization of the "New Word" following Columbus 100s of Native peoples would have survived extermination. From America to Australia to NZ.
@@N-64pro participating in a genocide of civilians is not exactly revenge. Besides, revenge for what? The Finns killed their communists and had their own state finally
lol.....Russia at war with the Ukraine....two European nations killing each other.....WW1, WW2....the west invading the middle east.....very civilized 😅🤣😂
Bunch crazy stories today. Human meat in burgers , adrenochrone pizza gate trafficing 100k ppl alot of white caucasians involved, politicians churches royals. Boy makes you look even crazier today.
Between 1914 to 1945 upto 30 million Russians were killed in political violence. Be it WW1&2, civil wars, political repressions. Who killed them? The "barbaric" Africans or Maori or Lakota Indians? No. But other "civilized" Europeans, including Germans, Austrians, Hungarians, and yes Russians.
@@JamesClark-cg1qkhave you heard of rongorongo scripture? same peoples bro,maoris drew maps also.painted etc..your downplaying them based on entry level education i believe..sht just wasnt practiced or cared about due to being too busy navigating the entire pacific ocean and every continant/country surrounding it 🤔 when not at war 🤦 then restarting in nz with foreign materials and resources in a colder climate with war mongers lurking around every corner,good luck building anything when your neighbour smashes it down and burns it the next 🤦
What other evidence and from whom would make you happy? Do you distrust Cooks, Tasmans logs etc, of course not!!! So what's your problem??? R_ _ _ _ _ph063.
@@craighughes2191 NATO is there since just after WW2 when the Russian Federation didn't exist. The vast majority of the globe has been attacked by little ole England for the last 800 years, including the USA. By your simple reckoning, that makes Britain Cruel Brittania.
@@rodgercopie1069 The point I was making still stands. 800 years and no Libtard would dare say the Maori were not the indigenous people of NZ, yet the indigenous people of England with a 1000 years of unbroken lineage are told they not indigenous.
Quite a history about the Maori - put the Inca's or the Aztecs to shame in degeneration. Outcast from the Cook Islands during the 13th century as weaker primitive Neolithic people by later waves of Polynesians (Maori were from the original wave of primitive Polynesians pushed right out across the Eastern Pacific by successive stronger more advanced groups arriving from the west). They were outcast on rafts and some floated to the North East Coast of NZ driven by the South Equatorial Current and were stranded for 500 years. The weaker were pushed down to the South Island or Chathams etc. So the South Island Maori (had their own language) were the weakest of the weak. They were captured and eaten as 'Slave flesh' by the northern Maori doing raids. (Well they all ate each other - 80% of Maori pre European were dark skinned easily fattened slaves farmed and eaten by a lighter skinned 'Ariki' thin wiry elite royal caste). So it was with some righteousness as well as British cunning that they armed the southern Maori who then with muskets launched a genocidal war on the north.. That plus measles & flu halved the Maori population and removed most of the elite. The British then liberated the slaves and outlawed cannibalism. The northern Maori fought with the British against the south bad west Maori 'rebels'. The Maori sued for peace and a treaty was signed that removed all sovereignty and made them subjects to the English crown where the English would protect them from each other. Land could only be sold to or via the Crown. Maori could live on their reservations with native custom but none did. The treaty of Waitangi is strikingly clear in that the Maori cede sovereignty completely and become citizens of Great Britain - all 3 clauses lock that in. Nothing in today's 'Maori' culture is authentic. The music - all European (Maoris did not have tonal music, the songs are missionary tunes or introduced - Poi dance is from Islands and Stick dance from old Malaya. The carvings and art - all European - Arabesques that was the fashion at the time. Original Maori had limited dash carving and no painting of objects. No written language - all the syntax & grammar plus vowel inflection is European. No technology - some lagoon canoes and wood or stone Neolithic tools. No food sources - like pigs or crops - they left that all behind, all they had was a weak inbred fox (now extinct), some rats and a weak dismal pacific yam. They ate out all the bird-life including 10 species of Moa and 46 other bird species, didn't know how to farm the sea as were island people and so they turned to societal cannibalism. Today - no full blood or half blood left. No genuine tradition and almost all are offspring of Maori slave females sold to white settlers for muskets or food. -So more fake than the 'Sioux' or 'Cherokee' or 'Crow' who had at least retained some genuineness about who they were and their history. -Everything you 'saw or experienced' is fake. A totally convected disneyfied tokenistic set of inventions fueled by a grievance culture of mixed-race imposters fetishing a false past bad history because it pays benefits. 'This Horrid Practice' - Professor Paul Moon, "A Savage Country" Professor Paul Moon 'Behind The Tattooed Face' - Heretaunga Pat Baker, 'Anthropology In The South Seas' - H D Skinner
I agree for the most part, it's hard to say these things to people here (in nz) without getting yelled at, people are brainwashed and ignorant, why wouldn't all people want to know the truth about their own race?
You have no facts to back that up I'm from the south island so I can tell you now we were nobody's slaves 1% of this is true some warriors in times of war would consume the organs not flesh of defeated warriors cause they assumed it would give them that person's strength or mana Maori as a race did not and will not secede sovereignty
The Russians continue to show great interest in other Cultures. They've examined with some intensity those of Georgia, Chechnya, Japan, Crimea, Poland, Finland... oh just toss a dart. you'll find folks who've been subjected to the Ruzzian hegemony
Chechnya and Crimea are internal to Russia. Poland grabbed land of Russian empire in 1922, Finland was instrumental in the siege of Leningrad… Japan? It’s your poor knowledge of history… Russia never invaded Japan. Next
While little Britain has attacked nations on every continent, a colonial empire who still occupy foreign territories and still sends military forces thousands of miles away from little Britain. The few nations you accuse Russia of hegemony over, are Russian neighbouring countries, who often invaded Russia themselves. What did South Africa, India, China, Japan Malaysia, Palestine, Egypt, Iran, Crimea, Australia, New Zealand the Americas, Caribbean islands, Argentina, Fiji, Belgium, Ireland, Scotland or Wales ever do to little England?
Japan? Lol. Poland tried to fuck with Russia and found out, although to be fair, it was the Habsbergs and the Prussians with Russia that partitioned Poland. The Crimean tartars were raiding deep into Russia for centuries before the Russians were able to defeat them and take Crimea. Finland was Swedish until the Swedes under Charles fucked with Russia and found out, knocking Sweden forever out of the ranks of the great powers. Seriously, Georgia? Who even cares, they were given their independence decades ago and totally fucked up. So yeah....
You mean America invaded and bombed Japan,Vietnam, Iraq twice, Serbia, Libya, Somalia, Afghanistan, Syria.. Killing MILLIONS in Iraq and Afghanistan alone. Nuked innocent civilians in Japan which no other nation has done and was so close to dropping a nuke on Vietnam if only Kissinger didn't talk the president out of doing so "Sir if you go ahead with this hundreds of thousands of civilians while die" Nixon to Kissinger "I couldn't care less about the civilians" Kissinger to Nixon "think of what the rest of the world would think of us" talking Nixon out of Nuking innocent civilians in Vietnam.
Genocide? I'm descended from the Moriori and there are a sizable number of us now. If it was genocide then why are we still here? The Moriori weren't a distinct race, they were a shipload of Southern Maori who set off to settle new lands like our ancestors who traversed the oceans before us. Our people went as far south as the Auckland and Campbell Islands. People the world over have used conquest to gain land and resources, the British were still doing it after Ngati Mutunga and Ngāti Tama entered the Chatham Islands. It amazes me that Pakeha take the opportunity to act like keyboard warriors whenever it comes to Kaupapa Māori, yet would never show their face at a public debate.
Did you know the British had penal colonies at Norfolk island and Tasmania at the time and Māori were commissioned to teach the convicts how to process and work with flax - long before mr Cook. More over old books show records of Maori being shipped to the islands of the Moriori by the British to exile. Our history is a contrasting story in the old French books.
@@CallemJay_McNeill you're mixed, all modern day "moriori" are, thats the point, they killed so many of them that there isnt a single pure moriori left. defending g3nocide just because it wasn't done by white people is unhinged
@@CallemJay_McNeill you're m1xed, all modern day "moriori" are, thats the point, they k1lled so many of them that there isnt a single pure moriori left. defending g3n0cide just because it wasn't done by wh1te people is unhinged
@@CallemJay_McNeill you're not pure moriori because they k1ll3d too many of them. defending g3n0c1de just because it wasn't done by europeans is unhinged
The nz accent is strong on this one!
What accent ? Cheers from New Zealand 😅
This is an Australian accent!
@@stevelee5724lol its absolutely not an Aussie accent.
It’s the same accent but with a vowels swapped around:
- I becomes U
- A becomes E
Ect
(Obviously many exceptions but that’s a simple explanation.
Eg.
Aussies say ‘fashionable’.
Kiwis say ‘feshenabul’
Aussies say ‘hey bro’
Kiwis say ‘hey brew’
Love the kiwi accents.
Lots of people don’t but I’m a huge fan.
lol its absolutely not an Aussie accent.
It’s the same accent but with a vowels swapped around:
- I becomes U
- A becomes E
Ect
(Obviously many exceptions but that’s a simple explanation.
Eg.
Aussies say ‘fashionable’.
Kiwis say ‘feshenabul’
Aussies say ‘hey bro’
Kiwis say ‘hey brew’
Love the kiwi accents.
Lots of people don’t but I’m a huge fan.
@@TKayCO Thats not true we don't, talk like that mate.
First time I have heard of any of this....thank you for sharing this valuable history. ✌️
Do you have researched to know its true? No offence 😊
The Russians were really interested in other nations and people. This was a great movie about how Catherine the Great sent a Russian ship to Japan to return some Japanese shipwrecked fishermen to their homes. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreams_of_Russia czcams.com/video/trNxyPYu1uI/video.html. My cousins are Taranaki Irish/Maori. My Irish uncle was on tankers in WW2 and he settled in New Plymouth married a Maori lady and stayed.
My third time listening. This is one of my favorite episodes since it’s such a great encounter.
Thanks again, you are too generous. It is one of my favorite episodes too. I did my Air Force basic training up there and absolutely love the area. I'm sure you will enjoy this weekend's episode.
Fascinating! Thanks! Cheers from Oz
Bellingshausen from Estonia was undoubtedly of Prussian Germanic origin.
Goods were traded so Russia owns the artefacts
elgin marble were purchased as well those whining Greeks eh
According to this logic british monarchy also german but nobody calls em german, nonsense
english are germanic,most stories are from opinions of "kiwis"
there was legit trading but the british did not do so honourbly
@@GggGgg-ek3dw lots of people call them german!mount batten / badenburg
Thank you for this interesting interview
That was fantastic. An amazing story Thanks :)
Great work Gerard, i loved this encounter.
This is truly interesting. Bless both ppl
To think just several years before this - Russia had defeated Napoleon's grand army, chased him back to France and occupied Paris.
I don’t think Russian forces occupied Paris.
Wellington defeated the French at Waterloo. There may have been a coalition force that temporarily occupied parties for a while
@@thisguy7083 Battle of Paris (1814).
@@ch.kv. ohh you’re talking about the 1814 defeat. Yeah I suppose there’s that.
I was taking Waterloo as what you meant.
Another great story. Would like to know more about the artifacts.
Thank you so much for sharing
It's bigger than black and white!
I never knew this ever happened , I loved in Marlborough there was no info .and no education at school either
Same, I grew up knowing nothing but glad because now I can learn truth without bias and bad education getting in the way, like a clean slate.
Im a Kiwi and even I find this guys accent hilarious !
Wow
That was excellent!
Fun fact: Maori are wanting the St Petersburg museum to return all of the artifacts. Russia has refused due to the tribe being wiped out by another tribe not a decade after the meeting. Good on them.
If they want it back they have to return the mirrors and needles they got.
It is not the Maoris who are asking for it, but the British. Maori asked for their land back, so what happened?
Really. 😮
@@user-lf2jh2ru9fThe celts want thier land back from the Anglo Saxons who the Roman's wanted it back from who the picts wanted it back. They act like they were hard done bye
@@user-lf2jh2ru9fplease supply references to support,your statement
Wow, this is interesting. Never heard anything about it before.
Another exciting episode of Russian communication with the Pacific region in 1800s is Miklouho-Maclay's anthropologic research in New Guinea
Exactly, on the PNG north coast around Madang. The area is called the Rai coast a native corruption of the name Maclay = Macrai = Rai.
I wonder if they found anything worth looting .
@@Philip-hv2kc you can google Miklouho-Maclay and see for yourself
Loved the yeah nah lol. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
Well presented.balanced narrator.thnku.
🤠 aw fullas great historical account thanx for that 🤪💯
Russia has an interesting history. I have started collecting Soviet memorabilia.
Me too particularly vodka
@@stphnmaunsell89 I mostly just drink that.😋
Don't get too caught up only in the Soviet Russia history. The history of the Russian empire is one of the most fascinating histories in the world to me ( but I might be biased). FYI Russia was the only heir to the Byzantine Empire after the fall of Constantinople (1453)... It came close to liberating it from the Ottomans in the 1917, as the secret protocol was already issued with Entente that Constantinople (modern day Istanbul) was coming back to Russia... The advancement of the Russian Imperial army was scheduled for April, but the Revolution had happened in February (1917)...
Soviets occuped, massacred and poisoned Russians.
This needs to be mentioned in schools. Nice to see not every one was out empire building. Just wanting to know about other people and places strikes me as a noble cause.
A little correction, there were no nationalities back then, only "narodnost'" at best which translates to "folks"( or close to it), which back then was only divided by different religions and/or spoken languages... If you were an orthodox Christian (Russian orthodoxy which was inherited from the Byzantine Empire) and spoke Russian, you were Russian. So Bellingshausen was considered to be Russian. As "Nationalities" is a modern day invention which came into Russia with the Octobrists revolution of 1917. Regardless, he was not Estonian, he was of German descent.
Did he say John Barrow? Pretty my hometown.
amazing thank you
Fun fact: Bellingzhouzen (sp) is described as an "astronomer, a great navigator", yet Kupe or any of the original Captains from the great fleets who were also astronomers and even greater navigators get ignored.
Fun fact: the video isn't about them. I could go on about great navigators for hours but this story was particular to him. Just because he isn't your race doesn't mean you get your undies in a twist. Think before you type
@@epigwaitthistory while I realise the subject content is not about Kupe, almost every mention of Maaori in this piece is derogatory whether "unconsciously" or not.
Assuming my race due to the content of my comments seems like another fine example of "unconscious bias". Which, coming from a content creator is also highly unusual.
I'll happily watch your Kupe or Great Fleet content, care to provide a link?
Um, make your own? @@Kult365
How is every mention of the Māori in this video derogatory?
@@Kult365 This channel are recordings taken from a radio broadcast, so he can't produce something from request or magically produce something that doesn't exist. Also information about such people is pretty thin on the ground as they had no written language so producing anything like this about them would be a stretch. This also seems very complimentary of the Māori, what did you perceive as derogatory?
quite good story, worth listening to
This has been fabulous - but how please does it fit in with actions of the Welleslesy brothers in their establishment - & ongoings - of The New Zealand Company?
NZ company was 1839-40 Wakefield brothers were crooks really
I was hesitant to click on this video because I thought it would be another horrific story about Europeans slaughtering Natives. What a pleasant surprise! Thanks for sharing this, had never heard of this expedition. I read more about it on the internet and saw the drawings and artifacts, all very fascinating.
You realize natives like these were killing eachother on mass until the British showed up and abolished slavery.
Not sure how much you know about NZ history but it's usually the Europeans that get
slaughtered and eaten pre 1840.
@@petshopox @DardanellsBy108, that is so true. All we hear is how bad Europeans were to natives. Simply untrue. Maori were saved from their own demise by the British and Europeans. The average life of Maori was around mid 20s. The practiced slavery, cannibalism, infanticide, and were living a stone-age existence. The data is out there but it is suppressed by polical and self-interest. There is no money in the truth.
Not so savage as 1 would have us believe? The Russians leave just before a genocide. Returning with tattooed heads as trophies!!
Remind me who the savages are??🤣😂
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Absolutely honorable people who have suffered a disgraceful western smear campaign .
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I agree
I don't believe they were any more honorable than any other groups
@@stphnmaunsell89think about the actions of cooks rabble , and poor diplomacy , it speaks for itself .let alone the seed sowing Portuguese on the east coast pre dating cook, do you really think these people were honourable?????
What's honorable about trying to invade Ukraine. And what has been said about them on our news that inst true. Please I'd love to know .
@@evanhawkins6186 Ukraine was shelling the Russian speaking population since 2014 when the CIA backed a coup in Ukraine and took down the democratically elected government to install a US puppet. Why do you think you never hear the other side of the story all we hear is that one day Putin woke up and decided to invade a neighbouring country even though he knew that it could of brought Russia to its knees. NATO pushing towards Russias borders was another big reason. Can you imagine Russia or China building military bases in Mexico? Mexico would cease to exist. The USA invaded a country half way around the world just because of so called 911 that killed 2000 people well the Ukrainian government Have killed more than 15000 Russian speaking civilians all because they didn't agree with the puppet installed government in Kiev and asked Moscow for help. Google search 2014 Odessa massacre when Ukrainians burned over 200 peaceful Russian protesters in a building the lucky ones that tried to get away were shot dead or jumped to their death, at first reports were that their were about 50 people until they cleaned up the rubble. This is one of many many instances of Ukrainians killing Russian speaking population it's just that we can all agree the media biased they don't report on anything that happens to Russians but push everything down our throats in Ukraine.
How did they weigh such ships?
Ok. Thanks
This is friggin fascinating !!! All these beautiful story's the colonials probably preferred to keep swept under the carpet ? It's still leaves me the question , how many White culture's invaded another culture's country and successfully intergrated ? Thankyou for sharing 🙃🥴😎
Them terrible Europeans😂
subscribed. why (as a kiwi) do i not know about this? oh yeah, i know.
Why?
Yeah no true history for us.
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Great as a New Zealander 55 years+ First time I have been made aware of this . This can be used as a measure of our “Political correct” Education system
25 year old kiwi here. I don't think it has anything to do with our "education system" it's just not the most useful history to learn . Idk I bad never heard of it either tho and it's very fascinating
@@evanhawkins6186 On the contrary it is one of the most useful history to learn. Especially with the modern day hysteria and politics. You know exactly what I'm talking about. The west was always framing Russia in a certain light hence why you would never get stories like that being told in our educational system. That's the whole point. It was framed that way deliberately by the British Crown FYI...
@@korana6308 how is it useful history . Gas this changed your life. No it hasn't. It's ust fascinating but it's not useful
Always question the narrative / s . Never take anything for granted.
From 1732 to 1867, the Russian Empire laid claim to northern Pacific Coast territories in the Americas. Russian colonial possessions in the Americas are collectively known as Russian America (Russian: Русская Америка, romanized: Russkaya Amerika; 1799 to 1867). It consisted mostly of present-day Alaska in the United States, but also included the outpost of Fort Ross in California, and three forts in Hawaii, including Russian Fort Elizabeth. Russian Creole settlements were concentrated in Alaska, including the capital, New Archangel (Novo-Arkhangelsk), which is now Sitka.
-Wikipedia
Kia ora ehoa. Tino pai ♥ Loved learning about this!
SUPER FRIENDLY GUYS
That must have been such a shock for those isolated and near stone age Maoris way back then, seeing such advanced technology (for its time) would have blown their minds.
The video said the Maori in this story were already familiar W European technology 🤦♀️
@@giovannisheh2270 i can confirm this i was 18 when cook came into harbour
no, you are not mind blowing and you make assumptions
It's amazing so many that people in NZ seen to have that incorrect opinion of what NZ was like. Mind you there's been a converted effort in recent times to paint that picture.
Did you know that a European settlement was established in the south island in the 1790s and built the first sailing ship of European design, the "Providence".
Before 1810 maori chiefs had travelled to Sydney and London, and two entire tribes in the north island had become Christians after their chiefs were converted on their travels overseas.
It was them who invited Marsden to give his famous 1st sermon in NZ in 1814, but he was preaching to the converted.
Mission stations and schools were established before 1820. Several chiefs purchased sailing ships and started international trade with their own ships.
Commander Henry Williams of the royal navy arrived in 1822 to take over the missions. He set up missions and schools in the north island in the 1820s.
By 1830 there were printing presses producing bibles in Maori, and there was a regular maori language newspaper.
Trade had increased to the point where one Waikato tribe had a fleet of 40 sailing ships a d was trading with north and south America, Europe, England, Japan & Australia.
Chiefs were sending their sons to European universities.
Many chiefs dressed in European clothing and had European houses.
All that was in the 1820s and early 30s.
In 1834 maori selected a national flag and presented it to king William the 4th of England who happily recognised it.
In 1835 a group of representative chiefs, working with Henry Williams and James Busby, developed and issued the NZ declaration of independence which established a federation of the united states of NZ (using the local word tribes to describe the states, but describing those tribes as comprising all those who come to settle in NZ.
This declaration was sent to many natyti recognise including France, the USA, and England.
King William again happily recognised this. As he signed it and placed his royal seal on it to confirm he recognised the freedom, independence, and sovereignty of NZ, he stated "That will keep the snakes out"
The first European explorers to trek overland down the west coast of the south island, Heaphy, Fox and Brunner, wrote in their diaries the following:
It was not possible to enter a single valley on our journey without finding that every Maori in it was a Christian, had a copy of the scriptures in their own language which they could read, wanted you to baptise them, and had never met a white man before."
This was the result of maori to maori evangelisation & education after first learning at the mission schools.
Marsden wrote "no people has ever embraced Christianity in the way that the maori people have".
@@MacMcConnellNZThe sealers and whalers wanted nothing to with Marsden aka "The Flogging Parson" known for his brutality in Sydney.The moari liked baccy and arrack rum and muskets not some Whiteman with a book ..
Great broadcast.....lets invite the Russians back again and open up new trade deals...for a start cheap oil.....
Haha they’re a different breed these days
Yes this is a great idea the world is turning more multipolar slowly leaving us hegemony. Russia and nz trade sounds good.
‘English fleet’?
If gifts are given in the name of friendship and trade 200 years ago, what kind of arsehole asks for them back.
no1 is asking for them back
A white one
Not appropriate at all the name calling
Political z10n157 corr3ctn355.
@@louiscarnachan3608Aww somebody break your heart eh.
Amazing Maoris never did any expeditions out of the pacific islands.
U were alive back then ?
Maori loved mirrors?? We still do.😂
You sexy thing you!
Extraordinary story !
The Maori encounter would be like us meeting a far superior alien spaceship
if you say so....lol....
? No it was exactly like that. The maori culture was in a great dearth of material wealth and had a very limited structure and was isolated in a region with only their own people.
Seeing the europeans would have been like seeing aliens in every way, phisically, culturally and materially.
The maori couldnt conceive the origins of even simple things like the leather boots or netal buttons on the saliors coats.
The maori were cunning and observant and in general not dumb.. They just had a primative isolated culture.. You can see the maori quickly figured out how the game was to be played.
Polynesians upon european contact were generally observed as being intellegent and curious. The tahitians within 10 years had created a constitutional monarchy based on what english hat told them of their own.
The dumbness we observe in many maori or polynesians these days is not a historical thing .. Its a product of moden society. Probably social collapes post contact, death disease and breakdown of social cohesion among the peopke due to cultural change.
@@Taongapuoromaori You'd have to go back to the late stone age in Europe (about 5000 years ago) to find a similar level of technology. What is great about finding pre-metal cultures in the modern era is that it gives a sense of what prehistoric cultures in places like Europe may have been like. We talk about the stone age and artifacts of stone capture modern people's attention but they must have had a whole lost tradition of wood and plant fibres which if you look at traditional Maori culture are the dominant part of the culture rather than the rarer stone items including all the greenstone artworks.
@@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367i would agree with most of what you say,although only some maori lacked resources and others were wealthy with abundance,maori drew maps,painted,practiced and understood astrology,and of course navigation was forefront...some of many things we weren't taught about in school 🤦 the exact same people moved to rapanui from rarotonga/tahiti and had rongorongo scriptures and were great sculptures 🤔 but commonly the culture and religious belief system played a key role in prohibiting many things right through the pacific,war was a major player in the downfall to most and progression was reduced dramatically,for some it was reduced indefinitely,it is well known the portrayal of many people has been exaggerated,its a colonising ritual
@@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367 why is Tahiti in French Polynesia then ?
Could You be thinking of Hawaii ?
Maori were navigators of the seas, they sailed to all.corners of the earth, Russia wasnt a stranger to maori they were already trading with each other , this is in maori moteatea and waiata that maori sailed to many countries to trade ceturies before the colonizers arrived, guarantee Russia have historical records of trading with maori
All corners of the earth. Now your talking shite.
@@backindabayhow do you know ?
Bunch of cookers on these comments.
Mate, I may turn off comments on future videos. There's so many and youtube filters out the wrong ones.
@@epigwaitthistory Seems the youtube algorithm recently decided to share this video with a wider audience, I myself ended up here inadvertently! Found it to be a really interesting historical encounter though.
those artifacts were trades not temporary gifts
FYI : BELENS-GAU-ZEN - was German : Fabian Gottlieb Benjamin von Bellingshausen.
There were also French Dutch and Spanish, whom we traded with, but of course, the great Batanian white washed this history...
Seriously, now putin will claim NZ belongs to russia as well😂😂😂
Russia came here? Why do we teach a edited version of our history.
Strength is in truth, can't have us all being strong and independent.
Because it was insignificant.
Because we are anglocentric...
Why is no one talking about the fact that they came before cook? I hope this guy can share more history pre Cook
Evidence of this?
No, it was after Captain James Cook. Cook arrived 1769. Russ came to Fiordland in 1820.
I think your thinking of Tasman
the first time i heard of this story was another source where the russians only came to nz by accident due to severe weather..not an intentional journey as this video describes
This guy was on a slot on a Friday night on the radio. Was always interesting
Same as the Germans who came and shed no blood.
If only the British just settled for a trade of artifacts too lmaooo
Then New Zealand would still have 40% slaves with cannibalism common practice.
@@epigwaitthistory I get what you're saying and why my comment isn't accurate but it was a joke with partial truth to it
@@epigwaitthistory I'd like to add 70% of all native forests were cut down by the British and the maori could not and still can not live off anymore. The maori language was beaten out of as many people as possible especially in schools where maori had to learn a new language if they were to educate themselves and get a good job (assuming they were accepted) and was only gifted back less than 50 years ago in the maori language act of 1987 as a cute little present, and a bit of their culture to paint our concrete jungles with. New Zealand is a new society today and a fruitful one at that. But the British being the maori people's savior is a disgusting perspective commonly accepted by the majority. Great video tho, nga mihi 👍
@@lbjay8914 the first Polynesians/maori that arrived to New Zealand burnt down 40% of the forests in the first 200 years of being there. Humans have done a lot of damage to this land
@@kezw2669 although 40% being burned down is not supported by scholars, I agree with the rest. That is the proper way to look at everything. Humans have a terrible history altogether. I am just very passionate about Maori not being the only bad guys in the history of Aotearoa. As all I hear from people is what the downfall of MAORI was. And I won't have that be the case. We are all flawed humans with flawed pasts yet maori people seem to be the only ones still at loss. At loss of land, at loss of culture, at loss of community, and at loss of a fair narrative. While in my opinion maori need to try harder to combat where they are in society, period. I believe generational trauma is among many things we look over far too greatly. It's a complex issue and all I want is for everyone to love each other and understand exactly your point. We ALL were no saints. Perhaps my comment wasn't the best way to do that but his reply proves my point on how Maori people are viewed. Hurts a lot my friend. I am Maori.
Majority of Tsar governors of then Russian Alaska were Finns then under that regime . . same as Finns were in main white Russia forces high command against _ _ _ ish banker Bolshevik 'red' forces . . that civil war there sinister
That war set the tone for the 20th century. A true shame Russia lost and the Soviets won. At least the Finns got revenge in ww2
IMHO the Russians have a history of being the least racially prejudiced among all Europeans. Had they took part in the colonization of the "New Word" following Columbus 100s of Native peoples would have survived extermination. From America to Australia to NZ.
@@N-64pro participating in a genocide of civilians is not exactly revenge. Besides, revenge for what? The Finns killed their communists and had their own state finally
Reds where financed by their Capitalist _ _ _ 15h brethren.
@@N-64proWell Ru551@ is winning today!!
Looks like you guys dodged a bullet...
Russia was pretty cool back then
Russia is cool now…
@@alexanderpepkin4110 Yes, I would rather be under them than the morons we are under now.
@alexanderpepkin4110 No, russia is a backward thinking imperialist autocracy. It's definitely not cool.
Support the Russian Federation 🇳🇿
Yeah, nah
@@anembellishedaccount3638 Russia has done nothing wrong. The west are the culprits of the current conflict.
Russia doesn’t give a rat ass about New Zealand, even if it was the last land to conquer they wouldn’t bother 😂
God Bless Russia, only fools fall for the Ukrainian false narrative.
Right on!
To call a bunch of tribes trying to eat eat other a Nation" was a bit rich, he must be an "Accredited Journalist".
Go back a couple of centuries and look at Europe - how civilized, right? No war, all peace.
lol.....Russia at war with the Ukraine....two European nations killing each other.....WW1, WW2....the west invading the middle east.....very civilized 😅🤣😂
@@Taongapuoromaori :) The man should clean his mirror, it is rather murky :)
Bunch crazy stories today. Human meat in burgers , adrenochrone pizza gate trafficing 100k ppl alot of white caucasians involved, politicians churches royals. Boy makes you look even crazier today.
Between 1914 to 1945 upto 30 million Russians were killed in political violence. Be it WW1&2, civil wars, political repressions. Who killed them? The "barbaric" Africans or Maori or Lakota Indians? No. But other "civilized" Europeans, including Germans, Austrians, Hungarians, and yes Russians.
Sorry, but i don't put much credibility in Russian documents .
Okay 2 month old account.
Your irrelevant so ignorance is also irrelevant. Snap
Distrustful and deciptfull people 😂😂😂😂😂 nothing has changed
Are we Russian territory now. Why did you do this?
Would be better than being US slaves like we are.
Go back to bed 🛌 leave adults to chat please, good boy 👦
@@justinlanger7109 😀🤣 gladly going back to bed dad
Rhetoric
Anything to do with Russia is very tut tut poo poo these days.
Heil the mighty Russia.
Hmm a bit of an opinionated account of the voyage. Only the Russians log books and writings to refer to?
It's about a Russian voyage. And Maori's didn't have a written language until Europeans created it.
@@JamesClark-cg1qk"the russians are coming" video has less bs 👍
@@JamesClark-cg1qkhave you heard of rongorongo scripture? same peoples bro,maoris drew maps also.painted etc..your downplaying them based on entry level education i believe..sht just wasnt practiced or cared about due to being too busy navigating the entire pacific ocean and every continant/country surrounding it 🤔 when not at war 🤦 then restarting in nz with foreign materials and resources in a colder climate with war mongers lurking around every corner,good luck building anything when your neighbour smashes it down and burns it the next 🤦
@@JamesClark-cg1qkand this is a very opinionated account btw,as all kiwis make sure of when they speak about polynesians 🤦
What other evidence and from whom would make you happy? Do you distrust Cooks, Tasmans logs etc, of course not!!! So what's your problem??? R_ _ _ _ _ph063.
You cant use the words Russia and friendly in the same sentence.
You are brain washed. Of course you can.
@toast47624 not according to the vast majority of russias neighbors. If russia was a friendly neighbor, there would be no need for NATO.
@craighughes2191 Russia is reacting to NATO aggression …
@@craighughes2191 NATO is there since just after WW2 when the Russian Federation didn't exist.
The vast majority of the globe has been attacked by little ole England for the last 800 years, including the USA.
By your simple reckoning, that makes Britain Cruel Brittania.
@@craighughes2191 I just fact checked this statement and it is WRONG.
And eventually we learn that the indigenous people of New Zealand are infinitely more civilized than those of Russia.
No country is more civilized than Russia right now.
@@halbellows8578 🤦♂️😺
If you’re liable to believing the propaganda
@@halbellows8578whatever
The Maori only came to NZ in the 1400s and wiped out the indigenous people in under 100 years.
1200s get it right, lying bits 😮
@@rodgercopie1069 The point I was making still stands. 800 years and no Libtard would dare say the Maori were not the indigenous people of NZ, yet the indigenous people of England with a 1000 years of unbroken lineage are told they not indigenous.
Not true we survived 🤣🤣🤣
@@getmrfleet So you are Moriori.
The Maori who wanted to sail with the russians would have been a slave and due to be eaten.
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R _ 55i@ ph063!!??
Racist comment against the Ru55??
Another comment cancelled for what reason ????
Yout000b cancel culture!!!
Quite a history about the Maori - put the Inca's or the Aztecs to shame in degeneration. Outcast from the Cook Islands during the 13th century as weaker primitive Neolithic people by later waves of Polynesians (Maori were from the original wave of primitive Polynesians pushed right out across the Eastern Pacific by successive stronger more advanced groups arriving from the west). They were outcast on rafts and some floated to the North East Coast of NZ driven by the South Equatorial Current and were stranded for 500 years. The weaker were pushed down to the South Island or Chathams etc. So the South Island Maori (had their own language) were the weakest of the weak. They were captured and eaten as 'Slave flesh' by the northern Maori doing raids. (Well they all ate each other - 80% of Maori pre European were dark skinned easily fattened slaves farmed and eaten by a lighter skinned 'Ariki' thin wiry elite royal caste). So it was with some righteousness as well as British cunning that they armed the southern Maori who then with muskets launched a genocidal war on the north.. That plus measles & flu halved the Maori population and removed most of the elite. The British then liberated the slaves and outlawed cannibalism. The northern Maori fought with the British against the south bad west Maori 'rebels'. The Maori sued for peace and a treaty was signed that removed all sovereignty and made them subjects to the English crown where the English would protect them from each other. Land could only be sold to or via the Crown. Maori could live on their reservations with native custom but none did. The treaty of Waitangi is strikingly clear in that the Maori cede sovereignty completely and become citizens of Great Britain - all 3 clauses lock that in. Nothing in today's 'Maori' culture is authentic. The music - all European (Maoris did not have tonal music, the songs are missionary tunes or introduced - Poi dance is from Islands and Stick dance from old Malaya. The carvings and art - all European - Arabesques that was the fashion at the time. Original Maori had limited dash carving and no painting of objects. No written language - all the syntax & grammar plus vowel inflection is European. No technology - some lagoon canoes and wood or stone Neolithic tools. No food sources - like pigs or crops - they left that all behind, all they had was a weak inbred fox (now extinct), some rats and a weak dismal pacific yam. They ate out all the bird-life including 10 species of Moa and 46 other bird species, didn't know how to farm the sea as were island people and so they turned to societal cannibalism. Today - no full blood or half blood left. No genuine tradition and almost all are offspring of Maori slave females sold to white settlers for muskets or food. -So more fake than the 'Sioux' or 'Cherokee' or 'Crow' who had at least retained some genuineness about who they were and their history. -Everything you 'saw or experienced' is fake. A totally convected disneyfied tokenistic set of inventions fueled by a grievance culture of mixed-race imposters fetishing a false past bad history because it pays benefits. 'This Horrid Practice' - Professor Paul Moon, "A Savage Country" Professor Paul Moon 'Behind The Tattooed Face' - Heretaunga Pat Baker, 'Anthropology In The South Seas' - H D Skinner
I agree for the most part, it's hard to say these things to people here (in nz) without getting yelled at, people are brainwashed and ignorant, why wouldn't all people want to know the truth about their own race?
You have no facts to back that up I'm from the south island so I can tell you now we were nobody's slaves 1% of this is true some warriors in times of war would consume the organs not flesh of defeated warriors cause they assumed it would give them that person's strength or mana Maori as a race did not and will not secede sovereignty
The Russians continue to show great interest in other Cultures. They've examined with some intensity those of Georgia, Chechnya, Japan, Crimea, Poland, Finland... oh just toss a dart. you'll find folks who've been subjected to the Ruzzian hegemony
Chechnya and Crimea are internal to Russia. Poland grabbed land of Russian empire in 1922, Finland was instrumental in the siege of Leningrad… Japan? It’s your poor knowledge of history… Russia never invaded Japan. Next
While little Britain has attacked nations on every continent, a colonial empire who still occupy foreign territories and still sends military forces thousands of miles away from little Britain.
The few nations you accuse Russia of hegemony over, are Russian neighbouring countries, who often invaded Russia themselves.
What did South Africa, India, China, Japan Malaysia, Palestine, Egypt, Iran, Crimea, Australia, New Zealand the Americas, Caribbean islands, Argentina, Fiji, Belgium, Ireland, Scotland or Wales ever do to little England?
You should re educate yourself, the brainwash system of 'Russia bad' has done a number on you.
Japan? Lol. Poland tried to fuck with Russia and found out, although to be fair, it was the Habsbergs and the Prussians with Russia that partitioned Poland. The Crimean tartars were raiding deep into Russia for centuries before the Russians were able to defeat them and take Crimea.
Finland was Swedish until the Swedes under Charles fucked with Russia and found out, knocking Sweden forever out of the ranks of the great powers. Seriously, Georgia? Who even cares, they were given their independence decades ago and totally fucked up. So yeah....
You mean America invaded and bombed Japan,Vietnam, Iraq twice, Serbia, Libya, Somalia, Afghanistan, Syria.. Killing MILLIONS in Iraq and Afghanistan alone. Nuked innocent civilians in Japan which no other nation has done and was so close to dropping a nuke on Vietnam if only Kissinger didn't talk the president out of doing so "Sir if you go ahead with this hundreds of thousands of civilians while die" Nixon to Kissinger "I couldn't care less about the civilians" Kissinger to Nixon "think of what the rest of the world would think of us" talking Nixon out of Nuking innocent civilians in Vietnam.
This visit was just before the 1835 Moriori genocide, comitted by the invading Maori people.
Genocide? I'm descended from the Moriori and there are a sizable number of us now. If it was genocide then why are we still here? The Moriori weren't a distinct race, they were a shipload of Southern Maori who set off to settle new lands like our ancestors who traversed the oceans before us. Our people went as far south as the Auckland and Campbell Islands. People the world over have used conquest to gain land and resources, the British were still doing it after Ngati Mutunga and Ngāti Tama entered the Chatham Islands. It amazes me that Pakeha take the opportunity to act like keyboard warriors whenever it comes to Kaupapa Māori, yet would never show their face at a public debate.
Did you know the British had penal colonies at Norfolk island and Tasmania at the time and Māori were commissioned to teach the convicts how to process and work with flax - long before mr Cook. More over old books show records of Maori being shipped to the islands of the Moriori by the British to exile. Our history is a contrasting story in the old French books.
@@CallemJay_McNeill you're mixed, all modern day "moriori" are, thats the point, they killed so many of them that there isnt a single pure moriori left. defending g3nocide just because it wasn't done by white people is unhinged
@@CallemJay_McNeill you're m1xed, all modern day "moriori" are, thats the point, they k1lled so many of them that there isnt a single pure moriori left. defending g3n0cide just because it wasn't done by wh1te people is unhinged
@@CallemJay_McNeill you're not pure moriori because they k1ll3d too many of them. defending g3n0c1de just because it wasn't done by europeans is unhinged
The maori should be thanking the english for not only saving them from themselves but also from the french that turned up.
Russia should come back to Aotearoa, if it was a good visit to Aotearoa theywould've exchanged gifts,
Were is this fictitious place you speak of? There is no such place.
They will help us stand tall in the new world order.
Re imagining history
As kiwi I knew none of this
Ha ha ga ha ha ha ha. Putin will very love you all.
This is history. This is not 21st century propagate
Hes Better than Biden or Sunak..
Erasing history is worst thing society can do
@@MrUHTiger love putin from nz. mr z wants your money
@@je7647 I'm good with that rather money go east than west.
thank you sirs 🫡 kia ora for that 👍
Hello for that?
@@halbellows8578 such witty.
amaze!