Taihoro: Details of the New Zealand Defender
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- čas přidán 11. 04. 2024
- This video looks through the details of ETNZ new AC75 launch, including two very important aspects: a new mainsheet system and the use of legacy foils.
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Im sure a large number of people have been waiting for this video since the news broke. One of the first comments on one video was "I cant wait for Mozzy Sails' take on this!". Thanks once again.
I can't wait for Mozzy Sails take on the new Luna Rossa AC75, too. ;)
@@strozzascotte it looks absolutely stunning!
This is what I’ve been waiting for the last 12hrs…. Nice work! Great looking boat
Excellent synopsis thanks!
Its Mozzysails season and i couldn't be happier 😊
You are the only go to for technical analysis of the progress towards the Cup. Great
Using the old foils makes perfect sense to me. The first thing I'd want to do is established that my new boat can go as fast as my old boat with the same foils.
I also think the main sheeting system looks brilliant, I'm surprised we didn't see this earlier.
I bet they have "Secret" foils to put on ,,Can't show everything at the "Launch",,,
Mega bucks to show the investers ,,,
Looks cool , but what would i know,,
Smart thinking.
At what point does the rules lock down the foils be swapped?
Its more a case of not exposing our design and giving other teams time to copy it.
Hence using the old foils
This was often the case back in the later 90s and early 2000s is run on the old keel until its closer to race time
I love the Americas Cup - you make it twice as good. Thank you.
I'm Kiwi through and through but I love your neutrality and critical analysis. Keep it up.
Much appreciated!
What a beautiful looking AC75! This boat already looks fast, stable and low to the water line. Even on older foils. Will be fascinated to see how fast this boat will get with all the tweaks and changes it will under go between now and the defenders series. A boat like this and a crew like Burling and Tuke this will be combination that will take some beating. Good luck to the challengers.
I love all the technology and innovation around the AC, despite knowing nothing about sailing.
What's so fascinating about these new AC75s is how similar they are, especially LR and ETNZ.
Can't wait to see them racing
I like his take on ETNZ's previous boat Terra Who Tie 🤗
Terror tutai....💩😹
@@phillipmurray1724 Don't you mean Terror who won!?
Thanks for getting that video out while we slept😴 here in NZ. I knew you'd do it!🙂
Kia ora Aotearoa
@@MozzySailsNgā mihi Capt Mozzy.
@@MozzySailska pai! Ngā mihi nui Mozzy
Which means awesome! And much respect.
Really enjoy your videos and analysis. Looking forward to seeing more of the other launches
Cheers for these clips Mozzie.
Great analysis Mossy. thank you
Awesome. Have been looking forward to your first impressions of ETNZs new boat 🤓
Xmas is coming! Thanks Tom, another great one.
Thanks - a well thought through review as usual. Look forward to the other AC75 launches. 👍
You and me both!
You’re the best out there keep up the good work
Great video got up this morning and bingo. Not even in the news yet in NZ . Beautiful looking boat with some pretty trick features. Great to hear your assessment. Thanks.
You don't look,I seen it on the news 2 days ago
@@robertbaird4822 In NZ
Beautiful shapes and finishes .. ! ..
Great update
Excellent, thank you mate, go ETNZ
Thanks Mozzy, brilliant analysis of this gorgeous AC75. The bow is very elegant and almost snooty. She knows all the other girls have to beet her to win the cup haha. The profile is almost similar to the last American challenger, don't you think?
Nice work, Tom.
Old foils will provide a good baseline when benchmarking new foils
Lovely lovely lovely. We’re on the on ramp 😊
Saw it sailing yesterday, shit she is fast , wasn’t a calm day too launched , mast , sails , gone ,,,no pissing about
It seemed to get up foiling very easily! Atleast we know they'll be lots of wind there
Mozzy Sails🎉 Forever top 💪🔥
Cheers Mozzy.👍😎
Interesting video 👍
Preciuos review of new Te Reutai guys. I look forward to see your report on Luna Rossa now...🙏
Does the camber on the bustle give an indication of how trim could be used to increase the effency of the sails? Bow down mast raked forward (see forward raked wins on aircraft) reduces the tip vortex and associated drag but there are control issues some of which are mitigated by only having 1 wing.
Do the old foils count in the number of foil models they can have this time round? Whatever the case it makes total sense to benchmark all the changes to the hull, rudder and rig against the old foils before locking down this years foil designs. Great video!
Trench looking learned from luna rossa?
Foils now must on for AC in barcelona?
what about sails?
They still able now using foils and sails from before and changing to real cup stuff later?
Thanks telling my question about foils... interesting see end of sail and sail controll.
Im not counted how many after rules every team built already.
Mind blowing tech. It’s seems a pity it’s not being contested in NZ but if the Kiwis get up in Barcelona then it will stamp them as one of the worlds greatest sailing nations. Frank Worsley would be utterly amazed and mighty proud of his sailing descendants. Go ETNZ.
Thanks!
Welcome!
Pretty polished design, will it be enough? Time will tell. Tom, what are your thoughts on crew going under the deck please?
Great video. How much better/faster do you think these new boats will be? Will there be a measurable improvement in performance or ability to get on the foils, do you think?
Make sure you have some beer in the fridfe for Rob.
I'd be flying them out and I'm a kiwi. As a wingsurfer and hobby foil designer, there's always more tweaks you can put into a foil 😁
The Champions👊🏽ETNZ
The super interesting thing about this ETNZ setup is that they used 4m old foils instead of the 4.5 new ones. Okay, it's a ton lighter, but it shows a huge confidence in what they've done.
The new boat looks pretty nice to me. Proof is always in the pudding though!
The first thing that jumped out at me was that the mast seems further aft than on Te Rehutai. There seems to my unscientific eye to be (possibly?) more foredeck length in front of the jib tack as well. I am wondering if this indicates:
1. the sail plan is further aft as a whole; and
2. the sail plan is higher aspect (as a whole)?
This would (if it is the case) seem to indicate a conscious choice to top end optimisation, and I was expecting there to be a MASSIVE premium on achieving lift off in lumpy seas and light airs. I understand this is a trade off, but would be interested in your detailed analysis and the 3 of you discussing:
(a) Is the mast step further aft (i) overall; and (ii) relative to the foil arms?
(b) Is the sail plan as a whole higher aspect ration than Te Rehutai's?
(c) Is there more deck length forward of the jib tack?
Yes. The move of the mast backwards does look like it to me to. It will be super interesting to see all the boats in a side on comparison!
The foot of the jib looks long to me. czcams.com/video/-D64IGHoIy4/video.htmlsi=_lx9Ldc-cdA0fftw
Teh - rrrreh - hoo - tie 👍
Looks like it will sail like a hot knife through butter
I am guessing we will see the new foils on Thursday 18th April
The way the transom pinches in will probably be faster when in displacement mode.
Would it be fair to say Orient Express will be identical - coming from the same design house. My hunch is (putting it out there) LR will look similar to ETNZ. INEOS and ARBull will be of similar design. AMagic will be somewhere in between (unknown?).
Hopefully, every boat will be distinct beyond their livery. I'd hate to see identical hulls emerging from the same manufacturer.
Your fast again
can you tell if they have the same number of stays. its hard to tell as they seem to have a backstay in some photos but not in others. are they all running inner and outer side stays and single forestay and no backstay
Berlusconi in an interview has just stated that the sails extend down to the water which when you look at the new boat sailing and the deep bustle i understand, would be interested in your comments
The transit down time is a massive factor in the etnz programme. And believe me, it hurts them.
Do you think they fitted the old foils to get a like for like comparison to the performance of the last boat? If the foils are the same, then they can assess their new control systems?
true, they must have lots of data on those old foils. Although out and out performance probably isn't the main aim for now, they're probably still designing control systems and trialling them for feasibility
That's _exactly_ what I was thinking (it's how I do things myself) along with possibly not wanting to reveal their newest foil iteration too soon. However, the latter reason is much less critical seeing that ETNZ was already advanced in foil development.
I went down today to see the Team NZ boat this morning before being towed out to the harbour for its training session. Very intriguing to me the 2 levers at the stern. All other boats I believe have only 1. According to a technical expert standing next to me this will definitely be an advantage. Also this expert was impressed with American Magic.
Cheers.
@@johnmartin7158 sounds like you need to watch this: czcams.com/video/3d8W82cMD6k/video.html
@@MozzySails Thanks a million for that and your channel is highly regarded over here in NZ. I did see a camera crew of 2 people down there. Keep up the good work and especially for the person like me and others who are not technical or understand yachting like you do.
Cheers. Ak, NZ.
These things are looking more and more like something you would see flying around Lando Calrissian's cloud city in Star Wars.
I think when it comes to foil designs the difference is Dan Bernasconi. The guy is miles ahead of the game
Video from another YT channel of ETNZ sailing the new gen boat:
czcams.com/video/oLgH42oD5M8/video.html
Please also analyze from the video I took of Team NZ's ac75
What do you think is most important, foils or hull shape
Foils in my opinion. However Barcelona is an unpredictable venue and it could turn out differently, we'll see.
Yeah I get the feeling that they are spending time and money on control surfaces, more bang for buck
The formula 1 of yachts !
Whats the new boat called? Hopefully something that rolls off the tongue more easily than the last one.
No name yet. I understand the ceremony for naming is next week. A bit unorthodox for a usual launch!
To the winners go the foils
We can see the TNZ foils on the new French boat…
Please review also Lunarossa 😅😅😅
Will the ship transporting the ETNZ AC75 pass thru the Red Sea? If so, we may need to send the Royal NZ Navy frigate😢
It’d struggle to keep up with the freighter! 😀
I think ETNZ are intending to be foiling 100% and have designed as such. They have refined the hull shape to be as slippery as possible through the air. The bustle is purely for end plating, not for touchdown/takeoff. That’s my take anyway. Can’t wait to see their new race foils, and some speed data at that time.
Interesting-if you’re foiling 100% of the time maybe “old” foils are faster as I presume new foils are larger and draggier
Bella🎉
What’s your take on the space ship The Italians just put in the water.
Oops forgot the question mark!
Launched and fly... no mucking around there...
Why are you sure they would transport the new boat to Barcelona by ship?
I'm not, I think I said it's a rumour.
I'm the last cup they shipped to Europe for preliminary regatta that never happened due to covid. And they shipped their AC40s.
Nice work from NZ ...let me help you with Te Rehutai pronunciation....like this......Tee rewho tie.......keep up the good work.!
I get conflicting advice on Tee or Teh
@@MozzySails haha..yes ...but its Tee or Tea in the kings,, ..you'll be fine
Its "Teh"
@@MozzySails It's "Teh" - czcams.com/video/IyEn54Cfc-s/video.htmlsi=mPANaiHzG7hiG5Ca
"Ti" would be pronounced "Tee
Hi Mozzy video re Luna Ross’s launch please? Thanks!
I have been sailing today and plan to sail tomorrow. But I will react to Luna Rossa on Monday. I thought it was a really interesting launch
@@MozzySails amazing looking boat but will leave the technical conclusions to you!
@@alextesei6978 czcams.com/video/LYtol5g2Fms/video.html
@@MozzySails thanks. Early days I guess and not much info to analyse
Ka pai 🇳🇿😎 He ataahua tena.
Designed to reduce drag
BOBSLED aerodynamics, more than anything else.
thought I'd pop in just long enough to gauge how unsportsmanlike the keewees are this time round...
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Yes....but Luna Rossa????
czcams.com/video/LYtol5g2Fms/video.html
Go Team NZ, If we are lucky enough to hold off the top challenger, holy smoke then what??
Hi @Mozzy, your pronunciation is almost bang on - just remove the emphasis from the u. You can hear correct audio pronunciation for both 'Te' and 'Rehutai' using the online Te Aka Maori Dictionary. Make sure you scroll down to Te, rather than Tē.
Mozzy ignore the pronunciation pedants. Language and pronunciation evolve just like Dialects and accents etc. Māori is no different. Plenty of us scramble ( to some ears) English also …. :)
Like others, very grateful for your videos. Cheers.
Hi Mozzy you didn't mention Team NZs boat has a guard rail all the way round it there last boat didn't I hope they take it off when sailing as it will cause drag and windage dunno why they put it on there no other AM cup boat has one.
It’s only there when it’s launched and retrieved as working at height. They all have them.
Checkout Luna Rosa they revealed there boat today no guard rail on there boat if you watch there launch video. You said they all have them not so.
@scotthallinan5729 they certainly all have them for safety reasons. The reason Luna Rossa didn't have them in durung the launch is because they didn't have anyone on the boat while it was at height.
So, why wouldn’t they fly the boat in like AM? Makes no sense to ship. What does that time scale look like? Time lost not refining the new boat. Maybe they think the lost time is ultimately not relevant as they are now pretty experienced with these boats?
Good question. I think the cost would be significantly more from Aukland and need stops. Maybe they feel that if they can get the hull commissioned, then re-focus on finishing foils which boat is in transit, then they don't lose as much. After, foil design is probably most critical and an early launch with old foils buy them more development time.
Cost! Exactly same reason cup not being defended in Auckland as more income taking it to Barcelona. Yeah, i woulda made the challengers pay for our transport north.
NZ airforce just got some new Hercules ,might use them,ha ha.
This is why it never makes sense to host the america's cup away from where you are. If this AC was in Auckland like it should be then ETNZ wouldn't have to worry about any transit.
I feel your pain but we just didn't have the financial backing from the government, it's also a timezone issue (race times in N.Z don't suit where the majority of the World wide viewers are) just means we get to see Live racing outside of our work hours
ETNZ had no alternative otherwise the AC would be hosted in Auckland again.
Fly kiwis ❤👍🇳🇿🤗
Ko,Taihoro Nukukrangi ahau.
Look at the video attached. czcams.com/video/68Uv4B_6vyo/video.html Look at 55s. Are the foils not parallel to the centre line? They look splayed out but why would you want your leeward foil to track you away from the wind? Would be good for down wind but bad for upwind. If anything like a trim tab on keel on the old monohulls you would want the foil to track to windward. Does can't angle change this logic? Or is the angle deceptive on the video. I will let you investigate :)
A green boat? Green on a boat means bad luck.
Bad luck for the challengers!
Look out for black magic
PS Is this video showing her new foils czcams.com/video/9mpSgoRfz58/video.html
I am not sure those are actually new foils. I think they're the old ones, just looking shinny when wet
love your work, but can I ask that you take a little time to learn to pronounce the NZ boat names a little closer to what they are.
you can give me feedback on my last video. I can't roll my R's though, even after a day of trying. Hopefully I am closer to get getting 'Te' correct.
Luna Rossa is the best looking racing yacht I have ever seen. Looks like a cross with a UFO, and as fast!
Not too sure why everything had to have a Maori name that nobody can say or understand the meaning of this name !!
The Kiwis eschewing bullshit and colour enhancement marketing and getting straight into sailing the new beast.
They're serious ,the others should be concerned and SIR Ben may as well stay at home
None❤
I am an adopted kiwi, and im so unfussed by this launch and have no sympathy for the logistics in getting to Barcelona. NEW ZEALAND won the cup and NEW ZEALAND should be hosting, yes the cup is about money but it’s ridiculous that you’ve been taking state subsidies for years and then as soon as its convenient bugger off overseas for a ‘home’ regatta
I hope anyone else wins
I sure wish they could do it here at home in Aotearoa, but I accept the argument they were much less likely to be able to be able to afford a winning defence if they stayed at home. On the subsidies... They weren't actually that much over the years. In fact the majority of the spend by central and local government on the Americas Cup in New Zealand has been on infrastructure which we're all benefiting from now (in Auckland, at least). Any investment made in ETNZ has already reaped a significant return for us tax payers, so they really don't owe us anything for past "subsidies"! Bear in mind, ETNZ's mission is to win and defend the Americas Cup. Simple as that. There's nothing in there about maximising sleep and convenience for those of us at home!
Please pronounce the re in Te retuhai as in Reference. Be much better!
Naturally ,the yacht "has" to have a maori name-no english allowed anymore-whats wrong with say kiwi flyer-who the hell knows what kaitoro means,The world knows NZers are called "kiwis"-great for tourism.Oh no maoris are now a special race and demand all new events must be maori eg womens rugby all maori names.
Please pronounce Te Rehutai correctly it's Te Re hu tai understand not the way you pronounce it. Kia Kaha
Don't be a dick.
He's giving it his best shot.
Sure thing if you pronounce all your english words correctly first. Eh bro use fullas can do it?
@@garbo5480 sorry pakeha wot??
Again this Race is about the Best Computer Design Sailboat not won by the Captain and Sailers that win or Lose The American Cup. Again the Rich People screw up old traditions Sailing
Move on mate, gotta cater to the next generation of sailors/spectators! You can still watch the old style of racing
There weren't computers in the 1800s. Do you think they'd have avoided using any technology to improve the performance of their yachts if it was available back then?? In regards to resources, the AC was always a rich man's sport. Sailing today isn't a cheap sport, not when it comes to serious competition.
It may be the oldest prize in sport, but the way the Deed of Gift is set up, i.e. the holder sets the rules, it's always been about pushing the latest technology, and always will be. The AC has never been about traditional racing.
Could’ve been a fascinating video but instead it was made boring by way too much talking. I’m interested in the mad engineering of these boats not watching some bloke blather on.