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- čas přidán 10. 04. 2017
- We tested a few inverters, solar panels, and the Sol-Ark EMP hardened solar generator against radiated and conducted EMPs. We also test what an EMP does to an iPhone and a laptop, the results are surprising!
We are now known as Sol-Ark
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I would love to see yall test the emp shield products to show people if they actually work or not before spending money on something that they don't know about
Just WOW! I did suspect smaller electronics may survive just because they are small, but physical proof is king! Thank you for this.
Man, I can't thank you guys enough. Fantastic tests and scientifically accurate, overkill but even better. Now I know who I am upgrading to.
Thanks. We had to make it brief. We would like to do future videos testing unprotected LED flashlights, HAM radio, running portable gas generator, running motorcycle (or whatever people donate).
FYI, our solar panel testing results matched 2 other labs (including military tests). Properly protected solar inverters also survive but almost no chance for standard ones.
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@@Sol-Ark great video. You said that solar panels will not be affected if they’re not hooked up, will inverters and charge controllers be okay if they’re not hooked up as well?
Are Sol-Ark MADE IN USA ?
@@SeaJay_OceansYes, they’re made in the USA. I have a Sol-Ark 12k and it’s been fantastic but wish I had the 15k (it wasn’t out at the time 2 years ago). I also just bought a few EMP Shield devices and installed on my Sol-Ark inverter, battery, and grid panel. It’s a great way to go for protection against EMPs, CMEs, and lighting strikes.
have you tested the EMP Shield device ? I'd be very interested in seeing how it works.
Please test the emp shield device
Absolutely love the video and information you provided - I've been studying this problem quite a bit lately. It's nice to see a company that provides testing data to backup their product specs. Thank you again!
You guys give so much value! I just read your 80+ page PDF and I'm all in. A company that's open to providing this much potent information and is basically open sourcing is an amazing indicator of wanting to be part of the Portable Solar tribe. I've sent an email to connect and figure out what I need to purchase to make this next step in solar energy happen.
Sol-Ark 8K solar generator was independently tested to 100KV/m and hit >140 times. Electronics, solar panels and appliances all survived. Test results www.sol-ark.com/emp-hardened-sol-ark/
Thank you for these very imprtant test results! It will prove useful for my project
Great video and demonstrations, it helps a lot.
FINALLY SOMEONE WIL REAL WOLRD TEST RESULTS!!! is there any chance you guys could test other things like that emp protection box that seems like it’s too good to be true and maybe even test a vehicle that is a mechanical special with rod knock or something so it’s cheaper?
I think the most important thing is to protect fhe power grid in the house. Basic light, heat/ac, water pumps, fridgerators/stoves sums up whats ACTUALLY important. All other electronics you can live without. In the 90s we lives without cell phones and computers. But we still did have phones to call.
Excellent! I have been looking for this kind of information.
Finally some answers! Thank you
We called them chokes at the phone company. We put them on lots of equipment to counter surges like EMPs. Basically a magnetite toroid around the conductors to intercept the magnetic field pulse that comes with an EMP.
Ferrites are really useless for EMP since they will saturate in a flash and become invisible to the field. It is not the magnetic component you have to worry about but the large E1 voltage and low DC to 500Khz voltage that will go right past a ferrite and destroy the equipment. It will blow out all protection diodes inside the equipment and the 50-100k reverse voltage will destroy the panels. I have been working with cellular and broadcast all my life and see what direct lightning hits can do no matter what we do to protect it. A direct hit is only a small potato in spectrum compared to an EMP produced by a nuke specifically designed for max EMP effect. I would not waste my money on this.
Thanks for going through the effort for all of this testing! It's quite revealing and informative. Still, not all EMPs are alike. Power level and frequency spectrum also affect results. Very small EMPs can likely survive all of your testing. Very large EMPs will likely *not* survive any of your testing, EMP-hardened or otherwise.
It's not even EMP hardened it's at best hardened for a nearby lightning strike. What they are banking on is 2 things, We hopefully never have an real EMP attack or if an EMP attack happen, people will have far larger problems and tasks to stay alive than going after a company that sold them this system.
This is great. I wonder if you change the fuses in the first power inverter if it'll work again
Awesome video!
This is my new favorite channel
Awesome test, thank you very much for sharing!
Greetings from the land of ice and snow (middle of Alaska) 😎☕️🥶 QUESTION: how would a delicate circuit like a solar rechargeable LED lantern perform in a CME/EMP Situation?
Awesome stuff, I love the sound it makes!
Extremely informative, thank you
Bloody awesome, keep these tests coming. More Myth Busting on radiated small devices.
I've been a tad concerned about EMP causing electronic equipment to fail for years. Thank you for this video.
So If I'm right, just unplugging all electronic gadetry from the mains power & in wired connections to one another, should improve the survivability of my gadgets without having to purchase or make multiple Faraday cages.
So it's good I have a box of older charger blocks in a storage bin box keep the extra ones got it
The Fine shielding Mesh, where can we get that? I have a server rack I am trying to EMP protect along with my Sol-Ark system. This test convinced me to purchase the Solark inverter. I was looking at other inverters on amazon. Thank you.
Sure would like to see a midnite classic coupled with a SPD tested
Thank you. Great information.
What, would happen to the inverter If you didn't power it and instead connected the power wires together? For the RF test
Hi, very good video. My worry is that electric household devices connected to the grid will be destroyed by an EMP and possibly might catch fire. So after an EMP: electricity is dead, my electric devices are dead and I better keep a fire extinguisher at hand to prevent the house from burning down. Is my assessment correct?
This protection you speak of, do you have a video of what this is? I saw the cardboard? Does this help?
Amazing video
Have you tested a lipo4 battery? The balancing charge circuit could cause a fire. Might have to emp proof it.
Man this was great and informative
Its good to know we all can still check fb after an EMP.
I believe systems start at $16K from what I read. High-end gear to protect with high-end results... be proud of your pricing, it was hard to find on your site, or maybe it was just me not looking in the right place. Great warranty! Informative video.... I was researching to see if I needed it for an indoor stored Inergy Kodiak solar generator and sounds like NO and my indoor stored panels should be safe too. You saved me from needlessly spending about $100 minimum in Faraday bag protection. Thank you.
If all you need is a small system, that’s great. Glad to save you money even if we are not the solution.
Sol-Ark my system can even be called tiny, when I go bigger I will definitely go with your product👍. Great info.
You still need bag protection because it does not shield 100% you can test it by using walkie talkies
Amazing info! Thank u!
DUDE - you could do a whole series of videos showing EMPs laying waste to inverter cook tops, toys, applicances, HVAC, etc. MANY VIEWS for YOUS!
I never keep my charger plugged in when not in use. Will it still be affected by emp even though it’s not connected to the grid?
thank, you for you're video.
Can you damage electronic equipment that is switched off ? Thanks
Last thing ,if it is ,what do you offer to protect existing solar power systems?
I really love EMP
What about keeping a spare inverter and charge controller in a Faraday bag?
Thank you for this video.
Im look to protect my elektrik and it never be real testet.
greetimgs from Gemany
Is that broadband wire ferrites on those solar panels with the cardboard covering them hmmm
emp basically overwhelms electrical systems with a spread of radio frequency energy- which builds up within your circuits. it is now possible to buy off the shelf systems, to absorb those signals... and store them as energy, then discharge them safely as voltage. obviously- they've equipped their systems with something similar.
My Morningstar 300 watt true sine wave inverter was fried by a lightening/thunderbolt that hit directly above.
If you touched a car engine that was switched off, with the charged lead, would it damage the engine? Thanks.
How do the circuits in the batteries survive?
What is that cage made from
Wait so even if the phone and laptop chargers are unplugged they won't make it, or if they are plugged in? Or both?
Also, if phones and laptops are plugged in would the emp affect them then?
I'm also curious about the booster charging devices. 🤔
Thank you!
Cool to see the iPhone survive! How would it compare if the iPhone was plugged in during the test? Would that cause more damage given the long charging cable?
This is very interesting! I was wondering if you knew of any scholarly articles I could read surrounding this topic. I was also wondering if an electromagnetic pulse could charge a solar panel.
This is not a scholarly article, however, the 2018 Lemay Papers are a good start.
Very interesting. Would this also apply to something like a Carrington level Solar event.
Yes and no. Solar Flares/CME and the EMP E3 pulse are very similar. The protection required for them is quite different from the E1 & E2 pulse. E3/CME requires 10's of miles of wire to couple into. So if you are Off Grid, there is no concern for CME. Sol-Ark 8K provides protection for E1/E2/E3/CME with 6 different technologies.
And one other thing - most people I know often leave their laptops and mobile devices plugged into their chargers overnight (or whenever they are low on power) - as well as being physically connected to an internet cable (if unable to get wifi).... won't the wiring result in electrical-surges that will damage the devices/laptops?
Can ferrite beads protect against conducted EMP?
i don't mean to be rude or anything but i was wondering why was there carboard covering part of the wires on the sol-ark protected solar panel part? with so many videos out there with false or misleading information, i just wanted to point that out and ask.
How is the video camera not fried?
will a CDV-700 which is stated to be EMP hardened survive?
so how does this work in an off grid situation?
What do you test it with? A Marx Pulse Generator?
If our wiring to a solar panel was in "conduit" would that not protect form "Conductive EMP"
Thanks for this information.
Recently I started unplugging my electrical machines and welders when not in use, will this protect these machines?
If you unplug from the rest of the "antenna system" (household and municipal power wiring), then certainly you are greatly lessening the electrical impact on your equipment.
so what if you have a solar powered skoolie with starlink thats completely self sustained and not connected to the grid?
The solar ark looks awesome, trying to figure out how to protect an entire off grid system. How did you protect the solar panel?
I think you can use whole-house ferrites on the incoming cables at the circuit breaker.
I just bought 3 EMP Shield devices for my home. One for my main (grid tied) breaker panel, one for my Sol-Ark 12k inverter (PV inputs), and one for my battery (at battery inputs in Sol-Ark).
Is 50k-100k p/meter as high as you test?
Keep up the good work. I looked at the test report on your website and it is a good radiated test report but I did not see injected testing discussed in that report. Is there another test report that covers this and have you published technical papers on you results?
We have conducted EMP generators, radiated EMP generators, and lightning generators in house. Conducted is much easier to test than radiated. So we did conducted in house and avoided the 3rd party cost. We will be sending our 12K inverter through 3rd party tests for both radiated and conducted for government approval.
@@Sol-Ark Thanks. Let us know the results of those 3rd party tests in the open literature. Again keep up the good work.
@@benmcconnell6008 We will. American families being less dependent on our grid has always been our primary mission.
Did the laptop turn back on?
So any of the electronics connected to it would still work
So what if the solar cables aren't connected to the inverter in your home, will it survive?
Can you update your firmware. You can read tempature on the 12k display in America units. F. Their is no option to change from c
What about a pacemaker?
How can you possible test your EMP products against the EMP which could be generated from an extreme nuclear or solar event?
PS - Not trying to be difficult. Your info is great! Just not sure about the issues I raise.... :-)
Awesome! What about a portable solar charger w storage? Like the kind sold all over the internet, about cell phone sized. Of course, you spoke of smaller electronics but jw what effect emp would have since the battery its self is larger and connected to a power source, completing the circuit w solar. Seems it'd be okay but also not
If you will loan us a system, we will be happy to test it.
Have you guys tested the effectiveness of the emp shield? They market them as being able to protect panels and inverters
What about a massive hours long proton flux? like the Carrington Event
Would this survive an x flare, though?
so.. what will be a decent approach incase of a coronal mass ejection from our sun... if i wrap most of the cabling in my boat in lead sheats (since its a sailingboat probably 90% of it because i am doing it myself but the mast have some meters i cant get away from).. and i cover my solar panels and outboard engine with lead sheats.. and make a faraday cage over my whole boat (except the mast and everything in it) that i can ground in seawater.. diconnect most electronics from eachother (physically, just not just a switch or a fuse) in such a case..
No need to do a single thing for your boat vs. CME. You are not connected to the Grid with long wires. CME cannot touch you. We just saved you thousands of $$. Enjoy.
Are the data specific to your solar device or is this true across all solar power devices?
How does this compare to 100 miles from a detonation is capable today?
So, if a computer, phone and such are not plugged into a charger at the time of EMP blast, they are good. I would think the same for the charging cords if they are not plugged into a power source at the same time. Sound correct? Now, for the real reason I am here. What about a solar powered watch? Does any of this depend on how close the item is to the actual blast site? This has been a big debate, believe it or not. So far, the answers I have found are conflicting. Thanks.
Thank you :)
Wow very informative video. But to be specific, does this simulate just emp from lightning strikes, or would all this also hold true for nuclear emp’s detonated in space?
We provide protection against E1, E2, and E3.
I have a Sol-Ark 8k with a ground mount solar array 175ft from home. I have the suppressors at each panel. So the solar panels are safe with that much PV wire in the ground?
Yes.
What about a battery pack? Like a jackery
I thought there was both a short and a long conducted transient in an EMP from a nuclear source and presumably much longer transients in the case of EMPs from CMBs. Will these hardened systems protect against conducted transients on timescales longer than the nano second regime?
Yes. You have to protect against E1/E2/E3 or you fail. E1 and E3 are the hardest to protect against. That is why we used 6 technologies in Sol-Ark 8K.
Is this compared to a emp from the sun or a emp from a nuke? Correct me. If I am wrong but isn't a emp from a nuke worse? If so by how much? Anyone know?
You should have made a call on the phone to make sure the radio still worked. And tried out the Wi-Fi too. Those are the parts are designed to catch EM energy after all.
Why?? Nothing will work so why have a phone? Cars won't even work get a bike stock up on water yes bottle water isn't good but it's better then nothing also get food that doesn't need to be cold buy nutrition bars protect your selfs because the people are gonna get crazy welcome to the stone age remember Biden talking about dark winter? Well it's here get ready now doesn't waste time stay calm don't freak out just stock up now take all your money and buy what you need now because money won't matter after the grid goes down bless you and the human race we are in for a rude awaking 😢
So let me get this straight. Your saying that as long as solar panels are not connected and "in use" they will not be affected by an emp?
So is the EMP shield a scam ?what do you think ?
an ecoflow ad on your video..?
What about a radio
To protect both my panels and the solar generator / battery what do I need to do?
Put a lightning arrestor on the house wiring.
If the connection breaks down at just above the maximum panel or system voltage this will protect the electronics.
High speed electronic circuit breakers help minimise damage too (they will need resetting afterwards however).
Goad almighty, Americans.. But sure more power to you. If people are preparing for end of civilization scenarios, your power protection measures would be an intelligent thing to include.
what are the frequencies of the EMP you used? I think higher frequency EMP could destroy small electronic gadgets.
Exceeds MIL-STD-461 standard. You can examine the test reports here: www.sol-ark.com/e-m-p/
So what is the effect on the BMS of a lithium iron phosphate battery? It seems these batteries are great for solar systems but would they survive an emp? Perhaps lead acid either flooded or sealed might actually be better simply because they survive, thoughts?
Unfortunately we have yet to find a BMS that survived EMP. When we were testing, they were all active (MOSFET based) BMS's which died so easily. But there are a few batteries out there (>15KWh) with passive BMS's which are inherently tougher. We have a few of these passive BMS's that we may test in the future. Maybe later this year.
So what if the inverter was off????