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i know this is old, but for anyone out there that wants to have TQ reduction calculated on the lamik and send to haltech.
Once you're done with the tutorial on the video, add the following configuration:
on NSP, on the "flat shift - cut percentage table", add an axis (F3 shortcut) and select the IO box AVI voltage (for the paddle up/tq reduction request from lamik) as the 2nd axis.
configure the axis from 0v to 5v where 0v = 0% tq reduction and 5v = 100% reduction.
on NSP - Your paddle shift up configuration - should be configured as 0v off and 0.15v on
On the lamik use option 17 on the "analog Can out" to haltech (so it sends 0v = 0% tq reduction and 5v = 100% tq reduction.
The lamik will send 70% TQ reduction request using the calculated voltage for that (3.5v) to the haltech
haltech will receive 3.5v and apply: paddle up, activate flat shift, and apply the cut (70%) according to the flat shift cut percentage table referenced voltage (3.5v)
Hi, can you send me what the table looks like? I got axis flat shift active time vs AVI 3 tq reduction voltage.Stuck on filling the table.
I love the way my N54 sounds but Dan's just sounds so damn clean. Holding over 500hp on shifts is insanely cool, we done guys on a fantastic project!
I think the real reason Dan has done all this is he’s a perfectionist. And the fact he hasn’t don’t think kind of set up before. Makes him feel less informed that he like many mechanics and engineers don’t like feeling. He want to be able to go from A-Z on a car and not feel like he’s missing any knowledge. Big ups to Dan and honest the whole crew the dedication it takes to continue something like that is not only a profession it’s a life style. Love seeing these videos. These channel deserves more subs than most popular automotive CZcams creatures. Never have had a moment where I said “this is getting stale “. I honestly thank you for never going the normal route and pushing the envelope
Thanks for the kind words and you have read Dan well even with his relatively small on camera time. He needs to know and understand everything, then he needs to be sure it will work and keep working.
I can’t believe that it makes so much power and is so smooth and silent drama free. Must be like a missile on the road .
Honestly it feels very strong! Not like a high power turbo. More like a massive capacity engine. The way the 8 speed keeps it in its power band is amazing tho. Hp goes between 525 and 550hp as it runs through the gears. I wanna see what it does down a drag strip now.
I wish it was as usable on the road as I'd like. Maybe after the box swap is all sorted some super advanced traction control strategies and maybe a motorsport abs unit could get this thing really perfect 😅
@@Buckna1 Mr power glide in coming lol
@@Buckna1 isnt the MK60 M3abs sufficient?🤔
@@Buckna1 Traction control? What is that? I dont even turn the TC off in my M240i and it lights up in any mode.....😳😳
What a cool set up. Love the dog in the background too😀
Thank you! 😀
This channel is crazy on 🔥 at the moment!
This is great. Who know one day we will see your E92 back and in action
That's epic! Must feel amazing with it staying in power during the shifts. Wheels look sick too!
It really is!
Epic! Good to see some solid development of a build
I love how there's so much Turbo Lamik/8hp content revolving around E46s. I'm getting pretty tired of the garbage ZF 5 speed in my 6466 powered 330ci and I'm starting to collect components for the swap.
Super keen to see the drift footage. 👌
Well its up now :P
Damn......Dan sounds more like a software engineer than a car tuner LOL
I think you have to be these days.
I sound nothing of the sort 🤣
Dan is a wizard and a super humble guy!!
You are raising the bar my man. Others will follow soon
That’s what it’s all about.
Wow what a nice car and i really love how you guys progress in this project and I'd say you can see that Dan is kinda happy with the outcome so far on his face! But more so id say you can see the good vibes between you guys and its kinda keeping both of you happy. I hope andrew that this makes the little break you had to sacrifice because of you know ...really really worthwhile 😅(if thats spelled right from my poor English knowledge as a German)😅 im stoked for your progress, cant wait for the next video!
I couldn't agree more Max!
The programming for the connection between is so cool
Been on the fence about going to 8hp but after these videos I’m now about to embark on my own project
What sort of driving are you doing?
Thanks for the shoutout guys! Appreciate it :D Keep up the amazing work!
Thanks for your help man! You’ve been a great help this year.
Your channel is like a Netflix series can’t what for the next episode.👍👍👍👍
Netflix for car people!!! 😜
amazing work and THANK YOU for sharing critical information! PS, cheers for the rhd ST manifold Dan! The 1M clone getting there quickly thanks to you and Socket/Phil
Fantastic. Hope the axles hold up.
Wow, incredible guys. Time for some beefy axles! Have a great weekend. Dutch regards, Nico.
Yes!!! Next up axle manufacturering!
Always the first to see the videos,, you guys are stars
Hell yeah! And thank you man!
You welcome man all the way from Zimbabwe
Whilst all your videos are great, none have excited me as much as this series haha... but obviously the fact I’m also doing N54 & 8HP drift car building I’m biased 😉
Will be interesting to see how similar those settings are for us as we’ll be running Emtron KV8 ecu... 🤔
Ohhhhh, they are a nice ecu. I’m pretty excited to see how this does actually drifting. Slightly concerned the trans might overheat also worried about how harsh it is on the drive train. But we will see
@@ZeroTo60Tube yeah the Emtrons are extremely capable so definitely excited about it... we’ve got turbosmart eGate going on it too which should make those power drops even less!
It’s interesting that prior to adjusting the settings those ‘clutch drops’ were so violent..? Obviously Dan has been using that car for drift for a while & said he’s not broken shafts before, even with a real clutch & manual, yet the 8HP did it twice back to back..?
@@ZeroTo60Tube we have a pretty large oil cooler & thermo fan that we plan to use to cool the trans... does the 46 not have one at the minute?
@@truecapacityfitness1611 i dunno if you ever made the mistake of fitting a hks clutch to your drift car. But i did many years ago and it broke 3 gearboxes in a week. Changed back to an os giken and all was swell again. The way a clutch slips on the dump is super vital to keeping a drivetrain alive. As I've again learned to the tune of 2 exploded m3 axles 🤣
@@Buckna1 haha nah mate I’ve never run a HKS clutch, & in almost 20 years of drifting I’ve surprisingly only ever broken I think 3 gearboxes (SR & RB), mind you I’ve never had heaps of power and I’m a fairly ‘gentle’ driver 😉
Definitely surprised me that it was so harsh to break those 2 of yours though.
I agree with you Andrew, those shift pops aren’t the loudest but it’s cool anyways! Would probably be better if the car was a little louder
Let’s be real I just want them cos they sound cool on video. With this trans torque reduction really inst needed.
@@ZeroTo60Tube yeah lmao I get that
Incredible what 2 to guys are doing !!!!👍🙏🙌✊ More POWAAH to ya !
It’s not just us. Brock from Leeson has a big part and then every single one of you guys in the comments throwing suggestions and ideas all help it come together.
Loving this series.
Thanks man. Me too can’t wait to see it on track
Hey guys, loving this content it’s like a “how to” which is exactly what I need right now. One question please. Have you taken the inputs ie map, tps etc from the haltech or have you spliced them directly to the sensors. Thanks heaps
Oh man!! Let me tell you one of the reasons that Dan is becoming so popular so quickly. Of course it's because we LOVE the way he drives. That's a no brainer. He's the one doing all of those sweet sweet skids in those short vids of Mad skids (HEY there's a T-Shirt in there somewhere! "Hot Vids and MAD Skids"? Or "Crazy Vids and MAD Skids"? Etc) As well we are totally blown away at Dan's big brain and builds that are so very COOL! (So are yours Andrew not taking that from ya that's for sure). BUT the real reason is that His Name Rhymes with everything COOL! "Dan's the Man if he can't do it no one Can." Or "Dan Kills tires like no one can!". So there it is. MAd MAn DAn With Andrews Lamik Plan, Ripped Up the track so he's in high Demand!" (Okay I'm a goof but hey I love it all! LOL.
Haha lol! Man you are gonna love the next video.
Thanks for the technical deep dive - please more of that. One question: is the communication between the tcu and the haltech via can or analogue? I am bit confused since it starts with can setup but than you talk about analogue in and outputs. I guess all communication must be possible with CAN only?
It can be done either way! This is done via can. The haltech allows additional analog inputs via can so that's what is used here!
Cant wait to see tomorrow's vid
Jeeezuz I need one of these behind my 13b turbo
King loves ignition cuts
He's all about it..... well that and food.... and balls.... and walks.
Axle go pop I hope mine don't have the same issue.. those transmissions seem like cheating tho I'm calling it now 😅😊🤔
Cheating is taking a 32r to bathurst in 91. This is just playing the game 🤣😅
@@Buckna1 lol that was fair game gtr just has a strong game 🤔 the humble ecotec v6 tho is far from cheating 🤔
I like it - a lot.
Just wondering, where can I find the CAN converter that Dan is using to interface the Haltech with the E46 dash?
Dan had to get it made, it was around $400 from memory. Hell have to dig up the guys info.
@@ZeroTo60Tube thanks for the reply!
I'm not in need at the moment - I'm still playing with MS43 (with live tuning!). I was originally interested in going to an Elite 2500, but the canbus 'gap' kept me playing with the stock ms43, which has been fun. I have a 330CI with M54B30 and my 5HP19 did NOT like my GT3582 installation, so I'll soon be going to 8HP.
Once the M54B30 can't deal with me any more, I'll swap - at which time, Haltech will almost certainly be a part of the formula and I'll need a canbus bridge to keep the car 'nice'.
Thanks for all you do mate! 🙂
How did you wire reverse light ?
Did you take aux out low signal wire from tcu to reverse relay k6325 terminal 85 x6325 pin 4 ?
Hi John, i am sorry but i have no idea. The auto elec wire the lamik in to this one. But what you are suggesting should work.
Man these videos are sick! I have torque reduction call output for shift on my controller.. what is the best way to cut the spark to my engine? 1 single coil for all 8 cylinders running from a dizzy. Do you guys sell anything?
Depends, definitely speak to your tuner.
🔥🔥🔥
should set that up on the Zf6hp26
With an aftermarket controller definitely possible. I still think your think would be amazing with a 8hp awd box. The box is so much faster than a 6hp.
I have ssg ii with my m54b30. Im wondering between swaping manual 6T or 8hp with turbo lamik. My concern about 8hp is that when i was driving stock bmw G20 with 8hp, after the pedal kickdown i must have waited for about 1-2 sek to downshift, it was horrible. When changing gears with paddles even my old ssg was less laggy. Is it same with turbolamik ?
Downshifts with 8hps are always slow. Amazingly the BMW clusters even have some trickerly to make it appear faster than it is. However after driving one for a week, you soon learn how to make it do what you need, when you need.
Awesome 👏
Thank you! Cheers!
Would it be possible for you to share the clutch settings from the Lamik controller? At what rate the potensiometer moves compared to clutch pressure in %. And also looking in the newer video of the actual drifting. There was some fiddling with a delay on the clutch. What did you change to make it feel instant? Running a 8hp70x on a Lamik controller myself, on a E61 M57 triple turbo drift wagon with clutch by wire setup, but havent gotten around to fine tune it myself yet.
Hi Erik. I never replied to this, becuase i see it and go..... oh ill get those settings and get back to Erik later today. Low and behold i havent had a chance to get the laptop from Dan. If you are still chasing the settings shoot me an email zeroto60tube@gmail.com
It’s no ls but it’s definitely pretty cool :)
hey hey, we can't all just ball out with a real engine
@@ZeroTo60Tube lol
sick!
I love it
Slowly getting there.
i cant remember which video it was where you put like an e60 or e70 "electronic" style shifter in the e90 with the 8hp and turbolamik ecu. im just wondering what shifter will bolt in and if you had any idea what would be involved to make it work with a stock e90 6hp if its even possible? would anything on the trans itself need to be changed over?
They won’t work. The electronic shifters for the 8hp won’t control cable shifter that’s used in the n54 6hps
@@ZeroTo60Tube how do the electronic shifters in say the e60 work? Would it be possible to fit up the bits from the e60 6hp to the e90 6hp and code them to work?
@@BEAMERNOOB I think you can get a e60 entire trans with electronic shifter to work in the e90. However i have no idea how much is really involved. Sorry i cant give more info, i have never done anything like it.
what drive shaft are you using?
This was a shortened m3 smg one.
Doesn’t the Dct shift faster or there’s no boost drop between shifts vs The 8hp?
8hp is actually faster when you measure the gforce. However its so much faster you dont feel the bang of the shift like a DCT. Replace a DCT with a 8hp and it feels like the car picks up 50-100hp.
@@ZeroTo60Tube damn, again that’s really interesting. I always thought that was the case for going from a torque converter auto or single clutch gearbox like the Lamborghini Aventador gearbox to the Dct in the huracan especially for boosted cars because of the gears the way they’re arranged you suffer no rpm or boost drop with a Dsg/pdk/Dual clutch. So yea that is interesting. Seems like a good transmission either way. Look forward to you guys putting out more videos on how far you take the tuning in the Awd cars on the street, strip and if you tune it for road racing/time attack
Comparing to supercar transmission, the 8hp works more like koenigseggs latest transmission, just with a torque converter. However with Lamik you can delete the torque converter anyway.@@mikelmarion
Hey guys what ramp settings did you use on your prohub?
180rpm/s
Would the 8Hp trans work for a M54b30 with an automatic transmission? What is needed to use the 8Hp trans?
Im sure it would work! Check out pmc range for an adaptor and team up with a smart performance shop that can handle the tricky bits!
Actually If you go for the 8hp45 from m n55 and your car is 530iA or 330iA itll be close to pnp from engine to gearbox. You need a spacer for the starter, driveshaft already fitting, crossmember fitting...so the adapters for oilcooler and the controller and the loom is needed but technically bellhousing is 1:1
YEAAAAAAH
I'm too early for this LOL! Hope you are doing well man.
Man, getting there!
Sheesh those wot shifts almost sound like a sequential
That’s what I wanted. I know with the right exhaust this will sound like a sequential. The ironic part is we need to slow these shifts down to make it like a sequential. The trans is so impressive with the lamik controller.
///M power😎
Hi,
Is it possible to emulate more than one haltech IO box?
I ask this, in case you want to send more than 4 inputs to the haltech.
Up paddle fut flat shit
Down paddle for dbw blips
Gear position
Oil temp
Shaft speed
Is it possible to also receive information from the haltech?
Torque converted lock up functions from haltech etc
Thanks in advance
You can not use 2 io boxes. However you can sent some via anologue
thanks, noted, i will need to plan my inputs on the haltch accordingly.
could you please also share how to setup the lamik to read the haltech CAN so it receives the MAP and TPS/DBW info via can? @@ZeroTo60Tube
Once you have the lamik software setup, its self explanatitory. @@nucleart0aster
Can you do this with the older style haltech or only the elite?
Only the newer ones as far as i am aware. basically needs to support drive by wire.
@@ZeroTo60Tube going to embark on this project and I was wondering if the shifter (gear lever and/or paddles) would have to be wired into the turbo lamik itself or the Haltech
@@levicharles4499 All shifter input is to the lamik.
Why did you guts decide to go with the 8HP over DCT?
The 8hp is a stronger box in stock form. Also the torque converter gives you some tuning for launching you simply can not do with a dct.
I’m gonna say it. The 8hp does everything better than the dct. It’s better for making the car do anything…… except feel. As a passenger I like how the dct feels on a shift.
Even though I'll be swapping from my 6-speed, I just want to remove that third pedal. Getting old sucks.
Haha. To be honest, I think the only thing you would want it for is clutch kicking during a slide. I don’t think I’d bother putting one in mine. I don’t think…… we’ll see after I drive dans a bit more.
@@ZeroTo60Tube see and drifting isn't my thing. The only thing I could think of using it for is maybe a rev/launch control. But you can wire that into a button on the steering wheel with the Maxxecu.
@@DK-421 spot on! However with a lamik controller they have a few launch strategies now. So you don’t even need a button. And using the converter for launch should be much nicer on the drive train.
@@ZeroTo60Tube oh definitely. I've honestly never launched using a convertor. Most I ever did in an auto was hold the break and give the gas some throttle and release break. Most of my cars have been standards.
how on earth do you guys even learn all of this stuff lol here i am still trying to figure out how to adjust xhp tq reduction lol
Time, lots and lots of time.
@@ZeroTo60Tube got any suggestions on where to start? obviously google is a coomon answer but if there was a more specific one tho
@@1ROWDY35 To be honest, i google then forums and youtube. I generally dont do much on facebook. Its too easy for incorrect info to be shared on facebook. CZcams and forums will get corrected pretty quickly if the info is incorrect.
@@ZeroTo60Tube that actualy makes sense cheers
What about down shift throttle blip?
Soon
Awesome 👌
Thanks 🤗