2022 Ducati Multistrada V2 S - Changed Enough Is The Question
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- Ducati has been in the process of changing their adventure bikes to be more "civilized" for the ADV customer.
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Video Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:25 New?
2:28 Competition
3:49 Powertrain
4:58 Chassis
6:47 Ergonomics
8:55 Controls & Display
9:33 Changed Bike
10:42 Verdict - Auta a dopravní prostředky
So pleased to see more brands producing models aimed at short and female riders. Wonderful to have more choices, and very nice of you to highlight this fact. Cheers!
Just ordered one after three GSs, the last one the 1250 GSA. Loved the test ride and getting no younger with a 29” inside leg it was perfect, lot better looking than the GS too. May ‘only’ have 113hp but the flat torque curve means it’s no slouch. Tried the V4 but the engine felt like overkill and far too expensive and thirsty, at least with the V2 you get to use all the performance on the road. Totally agree with your assertion that it is a sports tourer with comfort not a adventure bike, despite the marketing, that’s what most of us are looking for these days.
Did you get the bike yet and had 2 GSA and thinking about this bike ?
@@michaelfarrell8182 Still waiting, ordered on 30 March. Sportier than my GSA but comfy and feels quality…
What does he mean when he says we need a big bank account? I mean I can barely just affort this bike, and I can save up for the desmo service once every 30,000 kilometers. And I'm not going to be revving the bike up to 10000rpm. So why do I need a big bank account if I have (lets say already been able to afford and buy this). Riding calmly, this burns about 5.5 liters per 100 kilometers as far as I know. And thats the same I used to burn on my 1200GS. So any other hidden expenses?
ALWAYS a "Thumbs Up", even before I watch the review .... My favorite bike channel, by far !!!!!
Great Video Scott, very informative. The quality of your videos is really high, I really look forward to them.
Thank you for the perspectives. As always great video.
Right, that’s it. I’m jumping the fence into Germany! Everyday is a stunning sunny day in Scott’s Germany.
Balanced, thorough, and very informative! Thanks for the great review. And thanks for focusing on the shorter rider. Too many reviews overlook this. Perhaps you can add comments on ergonomics for shorter male and female riders as a regular part of future reviews. I hope I can test ride the V2S soon. Thanks!
Thanks for this review Scott. Much appreciated.
love your review... thanks for posting... very tempted to get one for spring 2023...
The reviews on this channel are done so well. I always have two👍👍 to give for NTP!
Great review Scott!
Another great video. Thank you. Regards from Brazil.
great review as usual!!! welldone
I'm not really a Ducati guy (not yet anyway) but this is an excellent review and presentation...well done (as always).
Nice review, beautifully finished, two thumbs up for the GSA 850 XD , THX
Great review. Two thumbs up for you! 👍👍
Been waiting for this :)
Simple review but very informative!!
Thank God for blessing me I will buy one for myself
Great review. Would love one of those.
Just test rode the V2 s this morning here in SoCal. Opinions:
The fit and finish on this bike is excellent. The power is very usable but the gearing is high. Sixth gear is useless under 65. You gotta keep the revs up. It’s happy at 4 grand plus. The quick shifter is a hoot. Very good. Decent wind protection from the very limited adjustable screen but the noise will get old quick on long hauls. The seat is a torture rack. It has way too much forward slope and puts sensitive body parts up against the tank. The handling at slow or freeway speeds is flawless, on rails in fast corners. If you get the hard bags, it’s over 20 grand. Gonna test ride a Tracer 9GT next. I think the Yamaha might be a better value.
Thanks for "Sixth gear is useless under 65". Sounds perfect then for cruising at California 80+ hwy speeds. What did you end up purchasing? Just curious, as I thought I'd be buying the Tracer, but it was just too damned ugly. Taking a look at this V2 next weekend.
I have the 2021 950S and love it. Great all around bike that absolutely rails in the twisties and easily handles long adventures. The V2S is only going to be more of the same.
Agree, I've had a back to back test ride on both, and prefer the agile ride of the 950s over the V4
but does not vibrate in my experience so far on the V2S
Great commentary 👌
Hi again, Scott! Hope your house and ofcourse in the first place your family haven’t been hurt by yesterday’s heavy weather! Paderborn is on the news today here in The Netherlands! Hope to see you soon, safe and sound on YT!
Yes! Thank you! We are all fine and the tornado missed our house by a few miles.
take care,
Scott
Thank you.
Very good reviews ...!!!
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Great bike, should do what I do and find a low mileage 2019-2021 950S and get a smoking deal now that these V2s are out.
best v2 review ever thx
Thank you for your review, I always find your reviews very helpful
Currently I'm looking for either the Multistrada V2S, The F900XR and the Tiger 900 GT PRO.. you tried them all I believe, which one would you pick for I would say mostly on-road with a bit of fun off-road in the weekend, good enough to go for a long touring rides in a single day (~400miles = ~700kms) and to arrive with a feeling that you're ok to go for another quick rides around town if needed?
Good video! I'm waiting for a full exhaust and it said for 2021 I'm now wondering will it fit on 2022 v2s?
Thank you Scott. I love how relatable and down to earth your reviews are, so keep up the good work. Realistically, I don't see V2S as an off-road bike. With that in mind, how does it compare with Tracer 9 GT?
Thank you, well, yea, this can be compared to the T9GT and also the 900XR and a few other sport-touring bikes, but I'd still take the other two bikes over this 😎
@@NothingToProve I had a 2020 Tracer 900 GT and traded it for a 2018 Multistrada Pikes Peak.
While not the same Multi as this one it will be somewhat similar. I found the Tracer to be a nice and competent bike and the engine had tons of low end grunt. What it didn’t have though, was soul. It’s hard to describe but it was almost too good and I think they engineered the fun right out of it. I don’t regret my decision for a minute. There is just something about the Ducati’s that bring a smile to your face and for that matter almost any Italian vehicle.
The Japanese will never be able to engineer that. Of course this is just my opinion and your mileage may vary.
He definitely does THE BEST reviews on bike , hands down !!!!
Ducatis are badass 😎
What about the heat from the engine, does it still gets through the seat?
Hi Scott, thanks for the review. Can you do a comparison of this bike and the DesertX. Thanks.
Nice review. Love the focus on the quickshifter experience. Speaking of that you should rename the "Powertrain" chapter to "Quickshifter experience", since that's what you tend to focus on.
So when a bike does not have a QS, then what do I call it? 😁🤣
@@NothingToProve not sure. The point is that in your reviews you focus mostly or entirely on the QS in the powertrain chapter. Perhaps add more detail to the powertrain chapter and keep that name or potentially even add a separate QS chapter (I think the QS experience is really useful).
Have been waiting for this. Thank you. Though a quick feedback. I found it strange that the f900xr was missing from the comparo list. I feel BMW have done a stupendous job to take on the baby Multistrada. Except for the non adjustable front suspension. PS. Your detailed F900XR video is what made be subscribe to your channel.
Same video for me, but ended up buying an used Tiger 900 GT.
The Chinese parallel twin is a major turn off for me on that bike. I'd rather get a used S1000XR or even 1250GS.
Test rode the 900XR and despite being a BMW fan I thought the Ducati was a far better ride and package.
@@IanTed Agreed. But I feel that the 900XR strikes a perfect balance in terms of pricing (USD 12500 vs USD 17900, a huge difference). It gives almost everything that the Multi V2 has (Hydraulic Steering dampers, Engine Braking Control, Wheelie control in addition) for a not-so-bad performance. Also, I was just delighted with its behavior in the corners. Overall, an easier bike to live with on a daily basis. The baby Multis have been my all-time favorites but those now have a serious contender.
@@ferociousfrankie Appreciate your observations. Anything more than 2 cylinders is always a delight to ride irrespective of country of origin.
It's party time again on YT, every time you release a review! I noticed that you are more enthousiastic about this bike than about the Multi V4, isn't it? Now wait for the DesertX... Hope you can lay your hands on that too!
Yea, I like the V2 better than the V4, I think it's cause the V4 felt so much like the 1290 KTM, it really turned me off.
I don't think I will get my hands on the desertx this year, things are looking pretty bleak as far as logistics go...sigh 😢🙄
It’s nice anyway that you could do a couple of Ducati’s now!
Hi Scott, great review of the V2 and agree it's easy to ride and it loves twisty roads, but after I tested it today and found it was performing poorly at low to 4K revs. A lot of vibrations in the seat and bike, after 2 hours you quickly get tired of the v2. Also tested the Desert x and found it much better to ride and stronger from 3k revs than the v2
I’m considering the DesertX / V2 to replacing my 1200GS for onroad 2ups touring. Which one is better to your experience with the 2 bikes?
@@alexmr.5529 for a trip with 2ups, the V2 is the best without a doubt, but I wouldn't use the v2 for trips with two... 😕The V2 is a bike that wants high revs and the wind protection is not the best...And the worst part is that the vibrations are exhausting after a while
This one with a Tracer 900/9 engine would be my motorbike! ;)
Finally, a practical- altho still not affordable for me- Ducati I would actually consider.
i've seen about 5 or 6 of your videos. gotta say, if i want the goods on a bike with no punches pulled....you da man. a big applause for your efforts.
question. i noticed you had a honda 850 transalp in your chart. that's the bike i'm waiting for. i have a 2016 africa twin but i'd like something more manageable. any inside information on that? great job, great content, and great presentation.
Thank you, glad you are enjoying the reviews. All I know are the rumors that are going around and the projected time is next year for the Transalp, so if I were you, just wait a little longer, next year at this time there should be plenty in the dealerships, I hope!
take care,
Scott
I‘ve just bought a used 950S from 2019 and I LOVE it!! There is a noticeable difference between the Euro-4 Spec (2017-2020) and the Euro-5 Spec engine (2021-models and onwards). The „older“ version runs way smoother at lower revs and is far more user-friendly trough towns and villages. 50km/h in 4th gear is now problem at all while same thing is almost unbearable with the successor. Highly recommended! 👍🏻
Did you tried them both euro 4 and euro 5? How do you know about this difference?
I had the same problem with low rev engine noise and performance - not very good down there
Thorough authentic review. One question, what is your concern with multiple week touring on this Ducati Multistrada V2
Vibration, aggressive go go go attitude, quirks.
Love this bike! Love your reviews! Wondering which middle weight Honda you alluded to, for your upcoming review???? Thanks!
The middleweight Honda Africa Twin. But information is hard to come by, Honda is "tight lipped" about it as to the specifications and when they'll actually launch it.
@@NothingToProve Yes, the baby Africa Twin is one of my favourite wishes, yet to be born. But how can you review it, if it, still, does not exist?
Well done mr Prove! Yep, women are the biggest potential nowadays. Which manufacturers need to address. In this case, I think the fuelconsumption is a big minus.
Bro give me honest advice for comfort stability safety and speed ....triumph tiger 900 vs ducati v2s vs bmw gs850
Hello mister ! Any plans on doing a 2022 XSR900 review ?
I appreciate your bike reviews. When you discuss the rear shock on a bike, please mention the manufacturer. I have a '17 1200 Multistrada with a Sachs rear shock. They are extremely difficult to rebuild and repair and a new replacement is over $3K USD. You cannot swap out for Ohlins due to the Skyhook interface. I will never buy another electronic suspension that does not have Ohlins.
Honda AT AS has the Showa electronic suspension…very nice 👌
I'd go for the Guzzi Stelvio over this.The shaft drive on the MG is another big plus imo.Thanks Scott.
I've been eyeing on this bile for quite sometimes. I really like the design, but I am a short rider with height of just 168cm. I wonder if i lower the bike height will it affect the distance to the handle bar & make it hard to control the bike.
Great review Scott! I need your opinion. I am between the V2S and the Tiger 900GT pro but I can’t decide which one to buy. Thanks in advance.
Thank you!
It really comes down to your riding style. Aggressive, fast, let's go all the time attitude, then the V2S works. Relaxed, normal speed, enjoy the ride/views/people, then the 900GT works. At my age, I'll take the GT all day. But if I were 20 years younger, probably the V2S.
Take care,
Scott
I left bmw on my 2nd hd excellent resale value. Reasonable service costs, great dealer network. Unbelievable aftermarket accessories selection.There are still pros and cons but I'll stay hd.
Even though i luv ducks...
Forgetting about price, for a commuter would the V2S be as fun as the V4S? Or does the V4S offer better wind/rain protection? Great vid as always, thanks!
Comments on late model Ducati reliability? Appreciate the design and engineering but looking for ownership experience feedback.
Nice review! I'm 6.3 so what do you think about ergonomics and comfort, should I consider this bike? My last bike was '18 R1200GS; can V2S compete in touring comfort department? Thanks 🙂
Thank you. No this cannot compete with the 1200GS in comfort or leg room. Being 6'3" on this bike is a problem, you will probably want the high seat option and you still won't have the same leg room you had on the GS but it might be enough for you. Remember the main purpose of the GS is to get you from point A to B in comfort and this is simply not. This is performance based, so the rider is not the focus and that is where the GS will beat this every time.
Good luck and take one for a test ride if you can, then you'll really notice the difference between the two.
Scott
@NothingToProve Thank you very much for your reply, I appreciate it a lot. It looks like this time again all roads lead to GS. Is there a bike that is equally good or maybe even better than a GS? I need an comfortable all rounder and off road is not my thing. Maybe KTM Super Adventure S, new Tiger 1200, something else? Thank you 😊
Wat mid weight adventure would you suggest light off road out of all you have tested
Well, I'm careful when asked this question. Simply it really depends on what a person is looking for in a bike, it's like picking a girl friend/wife, everybody's different. With that said, usually money is at the top of the list, if you want the most expensive, then this bike or the 850GS, budget then the Versys 650 is about the best bike money can buy or "bang for buck". The two new offerings from Honda and Suzuki this year I'd do a pass on, the V-Strom 800 is not a V, it's a parallel twin and it's way too much money for a Suzuki (no wind protection and ugly) and the Honda Transalp just missed the mark on where they wanted it, it's kind of in the middle of the range but with none adjustable front forks & snatchy throttle response...come on Honda give me a break, that is a deal breaker for me in 2023. I would buy the Tiger 900 GT Pro, it ticks all the boxes and even looks good doing it, although it is in the price range of the BMW but that is the bike that stands out from the crowd and I'd buy it.
take care,
Scott
By the way is the ducati's front suspension as good as the S1000xr's?
Na the s1000 is better
I had a 2020 MS 950 S. Great bike except for the quick shifter. It sucked. I believe they fixed it with the new V2S.
What do you mean when you say we need a big bank account? I mean I can barely just affort this bike, and I can save up for the desmo service once every 30,000 kilometers. And I'm not going to be revving the bike up to 10000rpm. So why do I need a big bank account if I have (lets say already been able to afford and buy this). Riding calmly, this burns about 5.5 liters per 100 kilometers as far as I know. And thats the same I used to burn on my 1200GS. So any other hidden expenses?
Also, does the new v2 seat vibrate as bad as the previous 950? I found that at over 3.5 4k revs, the seat was getting veeery vibey.... Really unpleasant.
Sorry, I've not ridden the 950, anyone here has ridden both?
@@NothingToProve Exactly the same. It's a twin and going to produce that character, which I happen to love.
@@bwenter sorry Bryan but I have to disagree; I have a V2S and it does not vibrate through the seat at all
Wasn’t my experience, smooth for a twin and I love twins,,,
The Goldilocks Multi in my opinion..
I own a Moto Guzzi V7. Needed a bigger bike to take a passenger. Bought a 2022 Multi V2 just basing my decision on videos like this one. BIG MISTAKE! The bike is top heavy, extremely uncomfortable seat - I was suffering just after 10minutes, constantly sliding forward. Great handling, great transmission, but the bike felt and sounded like a big scooter. Like a sewing machine, like a bag of rusty nails. Needless to say I got rid of it after a few weeks. I lost pleasure of riding....until I got myself a BMW R1250R. Fantastic bike with a charisma of the Moto Guzzi, but a lot more power and torque. I'm a happy biker again..
11:50 Why do you think it is not recommand for touring compare to BMW? fuel consumption? or am I missing something in the review
Have you ridden either? Cause if you had, you'd probably not be asking this question. Just curious.
The Ducati is for performance and not touring. And yes that makes a big difference. After a while the go go go on the Ducati is just not welcomed when touring. And this is all GO!
take care,
Scott
@@NothingToProve ah thanks, I only start very recently and still learning different brand and type of bike
@@jk2l The Multistrada's V2 needs more revs to run smoothly. A 1250 GS feels a lot more relaxed, because it starts to pull just above idle. However, if you want a comfortable and practical sport bike, the Multistrada is a great choice. I bought a 950s because my XSR 900 was just too aggressive and uncomfortable for touring, and I'm having just as much fun on my home stretch but now I can easily go touring as well. It's just going to be very spirited touring. 😀
Great review, as usual. However. Quick shifter is not supposed to be just a shift without clutch; it only makes sense at full throttle; no need to test it at 30% power. Also, putting the blinker into the hand protector doesn't make any sense to me; it's the first thing to hit the ground.
Well, I very rarely accelerate at full throttle. More like 95% of the time some where between 10-60% throttle, in traffic, normal, every day riding, that's how "most" normal people ride a motorcycle at least when I ride with other people. QS are on ADV, Sport-tours, Touring, Standards, nakeds...etc. so the question becomes why? Why do we have this MotoGP tech that was developed in the 1990's on bikes on the show room floor in dealerships today? To be used only when doing illegal speeds, or track days or running from the cops? Because if you are accelerating at full throttle for just 2 gears, you are illegal.
The answer is: if we pay for something, we're going to use it and use it all the time. And therefore, I'll keep testing them at around 30% throttle, where most of us will use them. Because that's what I do 👍😁
take care,
Scott
@@NothingToProve You are right Scott, keep doing what you do. I like your videos, and I can decide myself what to ignore.
Also, that's not the case on my 1250RS Beemer, and presumably all the other Boxers. Using the QS going up on a pinned throttle is definitely not as smooth as doing so on (at a guess) 40 - 80% throttle.
Good videos always! You may be a little biased but was wondering your likes or dislikes if you were to say compare this to the BMW f900 XR? Meaning if you had to choose one :-)
Thank you. Well, if money was not important then I'd take this but this is about 3-4k more than the same equipped XR, here in Germany, if they are closer in your country in price then I'd go with this. This is why back in 2020 I got the XR.
@@NothingToProve Good morning and thank you so much for the reply! Man I want to ride this thing and rule things out for myself. That BMW though, she looks sweet.. here in the United States, I've purchased a couple of husqvarna supermotos from a gentleman in Atlanta who now doesn't sell ducati's instead BMWs and KTMs. Said they were losing a lot of money with Ducati for some reason. Anyway. Look forward to your videos new or old! I love the detail you put into these bike reviews. What a fun job... Or hobby...
How is it holding up regarding reliability now that 2025 is upon us? Any high mileage users out there?
At long last a ducati!
Nice and good looking bike, but too less advantages: not really made for off road, a bit wild/ unelegant at low RPM, thursty and high budget. I like your comparative way of describing bikes! The new first impression videos don‘t are my cup of tea.
Im getting 4.7l per 100km average on mine. Normal riding. You have to be spanking it to reach 5.9 as you claim.
The 5.9 comes from Ducati, not me.
50mpg+ is normal in the UK.
@@IanTedHi, Steve from the UK; I easily get ~58mpg from my V2S Travel; that's riding on mixed roads (fast flowing and smaller)
I have a Scrambler Ducati. I test rode a 950 before buying it.. It was a little bit tall and had a rough engine which was not very tractable in the low revs... A Tiger 900 was very much more to my liking, for instance... I decided to give the V2 a go and what a difference!!! Night and day!!!! It felt so much lighter and the engine felt completely different, too.. So much more flickable and easier to ride.... I think this is going to be my next bike... Only the new Mandello V100 is confusing me, I haven't test ridden it yet, though... How do you think they compare?? I know they are in different classes, but they are surprisingly close in price and attractiveness....
Yea, ADV vs. Sport-touring but (and this is a big but) the V2 is really a sport-touring bike in ADV clothing, imho. So yes, I would compare the two as almost equal. I think I would take the V100 just for looks and shaft drive and electric wind screen, albeit I'd put a different screen on both bikes, the stock screen is not enough on either bike for me. But if you are looking for performance then get the Ducati, the V100 is good & fast but if pushed the Ducati really shines, whereas the V100 pushes back and says: "really, you want to go that fast?" and the Ducati says: "oh yea, let's go baby".
take care,
Scott
@@NothingToProve Thanks for the useful insight.. Oh, by the way, the Ducati seems the more reliable package to me , very strange to say about a Ducati, though... The Guzzi may have some childhood defects, that's a concern for me...
I took a test ride this week, the Aviazione Navale version.... It's even better than I expected... The sound and the brakes are excellent...It would be a shame to ride the Guzzi for short distances, though.. The Multi V2 is better suited for back road blasts even though it looks bigger... Go figure 😝
Hi, hope tornado does not make any damage or injures to any of your family ama friends
Stay safe!!!
Thank you very much for your concern. We are all fine, the tornado missed our house by a few miles.
take care,
Scott
But being Ducati it will depreciate like a rock falling from the top of a cliff.
I would have either the Triumph Tiger 900 or KTM 890 Adv.
What? KTM's depreciate far more than Ducati's in general.
Ducati depreciate??? LOL
Honda cb500x review please, thnk u. Ride safe
Yes, I plan to but the problem is getting my hands on one, the same problem with the NT1100. I doubt that I'll be able to do either one of them this year 😢
When the F are these bikes coming to the USA? Really want a base model.
Silly money, and the service charge prices!!! 😱😱
Don't forget it has a 4 yr warranty which is very reassuring
@@stevencouldwell2508 Yes, so you have no option but to pay Ducati for 4 yrs servicing to keep warranty valid! 😱
@@beebeer are the service costs significantly more than other manufacturers? is this a legacy belief are are they extortionate?
In these days 1 litre bikes are middleweight ^^
It is when the big guys all reaching 1300cc. The rising in cc has actually more to do with emission regulations.
Yes, "emission regulations", in reality is burning more fuel to pollute less. Makes sense to me 🤦♂️🙄
Do you ever not like a bike mr. Positive?
Yes of course.
This bike should be compared to tiger 900, 900xr, tracer gt. There was no tracer in your table🙂
The Tracer 9 GT also suffers from vibes through the bars and pegs.
The Tiger is on the chart, look again.
You won't see a 900XR or T9GT on my adventure chart or anyone's for that matter.
There are 11 bikes on this list already, if I add those 2 bikes you propose, then I have to add the rest of the sport-touring middleweight bikes, cause that's what they are, then the list would be endless.
@@alexmorgan3435 I own a t9, vibes are reasonably managed. Far less than on the mts 950. This is why I asked about the new v2s
@@NothingToProve thx for the answer. I thing the v2 is a sport touring bike to be honest. Only different thing, the 18 front. No one will buy a v2s for offroad I reckon.. This is why a named those 2 other bikes.
Regardless, like the content, thank you for it👌
Thats btr then the v4 imo. Way btr mpg.
Lol, posted 21s ago!
Angrybird
I feel like this is priced way too high. You can buy a used almost new multistrada 1260 s for a couple grand less than this bike and its superior in every way.
Been riding this one for a few weeks now, I really love it but, one thing I dislike about it is that Ducati being all premium and fancy, they chose to do that V2S graphic as a sticker, for real they couldn't do a paint job? Similar with the logos, they are glued to the front and the back, I'm afraid I will wash it off one day and won't even notice it. A 17k+ motorcycle with stickers on it..
At least it does not have a big old '1 on the tank.
At least it does not have a big silly 1 on the tank.