How Ketamine Destroyed This Young Persons Life
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Welcome to the Altered Attitude Podcast, brought to you by Rehabs UK and hosted by our managing director, Lester Morse. In this episode, we delve into the compelling story of Jack, exploring his journey through addiction and recovery. From the early stages of drug use at a young age to the severe physical and emotional consequences of Ketamine addiction, Jack shares his unique perspective and experiences. We discuss the stereotypes surrounding addiction, the impact on personal relationships, and the critical need for empathy and understanding. Join us as we uncover the harsh realities and the path to healing, shedding light on the rising issue of Ketamine use among youth and the importance of research and support in overcoming addiction.
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2:08 - Jack’s Story
5:40 - The Stereotype of an Addict
8:38 - I Was Different
10:38 - A Lot of People Starting Ket at 13/14 Years Old
11:22 - Sport Was My Ease and Comfort
14:44 - I Loved the Camaraderie of It
17:01 - The Need to Use and Feel Validated Was Much More Important
19:00 - As Soon as I Took That Drug Nothing Else Matters
22:44 - I Found That Serenity Using Drugs
24:26 - The Start of Ketamine
26:22 - Drug Addiction Is Contagious
29:00 - Using Ket
32:50 - The Impact on Family
37:54 - People Treating People Like People
40:33 - Self Medicating with Ketamine
43:13 - Tolerance to Ketamine Escalating
48:10 - The Consequences of Ket on Your Body
50:08 - Ket Cramps After 6 Months of Use
53:18 - The Irreversible Effects of Ketamine
57:00 - The Rise of Ketamine and Lack of Research
57:48 - Hiding What Was the Actual Cause of the Illness and Lack of Research
59:00 - The Signs of a Ket User
1:02:33 - The First Bit of Insanity
1:05:15 - I Surrendered to the Results and Just Thought It's Part of My Life Now
1:07:14 - I Felt Like My Bladder Was Going to Explode
1:08:22 - I Thought I Was Going to Die, Why Can’t I Stop?
1:11:57 - The Rock Bottoms
1:14:13 - Cross Addiction and the Other People
1:19:48 - More Guilt and More Shame Led to More Ket
1:23:07 - The Damage to Relationships
1:33:52 - “The End” - Really Powerful Section
1:38:05 - The Rise of Ket Use in Young People and the Only Way Out
Thank you everyone for your response so far, part two is in the works! Does anyone have any questions for Jack that we can dive into on the next episode? Please comment below 👇
What does he do now?
Can we just hear his story without interruptions.
How is it in social settings, parties/pub settings and not being tempted to use again, are you still friends with the same people that used or did you have to cut those relationships off for your health? Xx
Very moves by this.thank you for your honesty Jack.
@@OliviaaaaaWw I second this question, whats does his social circle look like now?
I wish the host would stop interrupting the guest ☹️ let him speak 🙈
i wish for a lot of things.....
It's really not that bad😅
I totally agree. Tried three times to watch this post but I'm done now.
Please let Jack tell his story... Please don't interrupt him when he's on a roll,it's about him after all ...
Lad explained the effects on the bladder really well. Ketamine is a hydrochloride, which will damage your bones and prolong healing as well as destroy your bladder. Jack made this mad compelling to watch. Need this guy going to schools/prisons to teach people.
I defo agree that Jack should do talks at schools, wot a great idea, kids + teenagers would defo relate + therefore, hopefully, actually listen 2 him, his story + advise
Lots of medicines are taken in their hydrochloride form, this does not make them inherently dangerous, and it is NOT this that damages the bladder. It is the metabolites of ketamine that cause uropathy (damage to the bladder and urinary tract). Anybody who takes prescribed medicines which are in their hydrochloride salt form need not worry, they are perfectly safe to take as directed.
Thank you both . . My higher Power led me to this. I' m almost 7 months clean after nearly 40 years of hell. I attend NA and AA have a sponsor and for once in my life do as suggested. I hadn't missed a meeting until yesterday, I was really unwell, it triggered off a lot of terrible memories of withdrawals etc. Anyway I happened upon your podcast and it saved my ass and sanity, I feel much better today and am heading to a meeting shortly, I'll share about this divine intervention. Thanks again, you both carry a great message .
I really hope this podcaster learns to not keep interrupting. This young guy is fascinating, smart and articulate and he deserved not to be constantly interrupted. This should be his story, not yours
Jack seems a nice, intelligent young man. He has caused himself so much physical damage. His parents must have been off their heads with worry. I wish them peace. I wish Jack all the best 🦋
Such caring words 🙏🏻
Well done Jack pal, I’m currently in isolation getting over addiction myself, I also had no self control to moderate or eliminate, it took extreme circumstances to finally wake me up and stay away.
Still very early days for me but it’s stories like yours that give me that bit of hope!
I wish this young lad nothing but the best and I thank him for his honesty throughout this podcast. I was a hard core raver 20 odd years ago and did speed every weekend. We raved with around 10 friends I used in moderation but a couple couldn’t. Most used a couple of raps of speed every weekend but a few took more and more. All were the most lovely lads you’d meet but when it came to drugs and alcohol they just didn’t no when to stop. Most of us got married had kids stopped the speed and got on with life. The others went on to become full blown addicts nothing and no one could seem to help them. They’ve both now passed and I knew they had an addictive personality but what I didn’t realise until this podcast is they needed different rehab help. It still saddens me 30 odd years later that addiction took such wonderful young men who I still miss to this day. If only the rehabs understand the difference between addiction and the addiction addicted will we have more success stories. Thank you for this podcast it answered a lot of unanswered questions for me.
💖 Wishing you well, very heavy thoughts and such sad situations. 💔
Sorry to hear this. ❤
Not all traumatised people become addicts, but all addicts are traumatised people.
It takes one hell of a man to stand up to something like this, well done Jack.
Stop talking and let the young fella get a word in.
KETAMINE has never been talked about like other drugs, glad to finally hear anothers story
Agree,was enjoying jack telling his story but the host interrupting was doing my NUT!....scary story jack cheers for sharing!!!❤
I'm struggling with that, must admit. I wonder if thi young man has told his story somewhere else as I would love to hear it.
No offence to the host but he needs some podcast training. Just wanted the guest to tell his story without constant interruptions and commentary from yourself which didn’t help steer it. Initially the host was creating the narrative that not all addiction start due to trauma or unhappiness but then goes on to probe him about whether there was some unhappiness around 20 mins in. I think this guys story is a great message for what can happen if you spoil your kids as it will ramp up their ego and put them on path to seek pleasure from stuff rather than the immaterial. Glad he’s off drugs and found peace with himself, ketamine left me with lasting physical consequences. Urge anyone to seek help immediately.
Absolute rubbish. Host perfectly listened and asked enough questions.
I see what you are saying but he wasn't overbearing I thought the host brought up some great points
I partially agree there’s times when the guest started to speak and I really wanted to hear the rest of the sentance ! But I think the host will definitely get there, he’s on the right path and I found it great when the host said he wanted to get the message across about signs of ket addiction for parents as most people have no clue ! It’s a very important awareness episode this and it’s great work on behalf of the host
Guy literally never shuts tf up
Spot on, the host doesn't shut up! Would love to hear this kid on a podcast tell his story and not be interrupted!
Hi jack i rememer you ive seen you around the fellowship so proud of you keep up the good work brother amazing story and amzing transforamtion just proves if we work our programe we can stay clean and sober love ya jack takes alot of courage sharing this with the whole world good on ya mate much love from David CA PI
Fantastic to see this angle and newer drug & its catastrophic health implications getting explored with regard to addiction. Thanks. Inspiring 👍
About 11 and a half mins in....obsesive nature..
I call it addictive personality....
Ive have fallen victim to myself before, many times. I used to be a case of...i like this...im going to do it again.
Now 40ish and can honestly say that now I've identified my personality, i can stay clear of things that i know i will enjoy, but ultimatley bring me no happiness.
And the biggest thank you to my wife and family.
The scariest part is the thought of abstinence, the though of 'i cant stop', the thought of shame and there is no way out..... but......there is...talk to people, take the plunge, it may feel like the world is ending, but, it will only be for a short time.
If you truefully want help and a way out, you will make it.
A person can not accept help from anyone, unless they are ready to help themselves. Well done young man. Keep believing in yourself.
Respect to the two of you .that was amazing to watch so much honesty. Thankyou
What a lovely young lad. this has really inspired me, I am trying to quit the K atm aswell as I use it very heavily but this has really opened my eyes, thank you, beatiful podcast from the both of you xx
Best of luck on your journey, find someone to help support you, AA or NA groups will have people on similar journeys that can help.
Get the book ‘The Freedom Model’. They have a podcast too.
i hope you get off it .
Thank you, this made me cry with identification and gratitude as I too was bad on the ket in my 20s. I thank God for the miracle of mine and others recovery.
Skyrim 🤚
Great interview very honest , your story will help someone 💯🙏🏻
What a fantastic example you are Jack of 12 Step recovery 🙏 I felt emotional listening to you & I understand all too well the power of this insidious illness. ADAAT. We do recover 🎉 “You will know a new happiness & a new freedom” Much love to you & your family. God bless ❤️✨
Great interview - very informative
Top host and guest really worked well . Great watch thanks for your time lads
To much respect for you to tell your story Jack❤
Regretamine I will leave that there.
I had to also comment in I feel what a brave, intelligent young lad his story needs to be shared wide & far to prevent others damaging themselves. Anything to excess is dangerous long term. And I agree addiction is already there in most it just needs triggering by any substance/s and once triggered needs specialist help & intervention to persevere on the addiction journey to recovery. Often ex-addicts are the best support workers for addicts as they understand it on another level which is essential to correct help.
I found the host really complimentary to the conversation. He was very insightful and educational about addicts and addiction and the differences to "normal people". Great podcast. Great host. Great guest.
We appreciate your kind feedback. Part two of Jack's story is now live and worth a view!
All the best to Jack. Thank you for sharing your story.
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Thanks for listening. We've just launched part two of Jack's story. You should watch it!
Big up Jack. Was a top batter when we used to play club cricket back in the day! Big up bro
No doubt
I love the faded haircuts you guys have. I’ve been getting my haircut like this for over 25 years where I’m from. It’s cool the rest of the world finally caught on. You guys have an awesome barber, they are flawless.
I’ve never been where you’re at Jack but wow hope you’re super proud of yourself from going through, your understanding of the path you’ve gone down and your ability to come out the other side is awesome - your talks should be shown at schools :)
Thank you for your kind words! We've just released part two of Jack's story-definitely worth checking out!
My ex died of ketamine addiction. He eventually went into full kidney failure. He had several operations removing his bladder etc. terrible way to go.
That's terrible! Thank for sharing, we're really sorry to hear this.
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God bless you both. I'm not an addict but this worked so well. Both of your contributions made me want to carry on watching
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I think its great that ur not an addict but r still listening 2 this + not judging. Wish there was more people like urself out there ❤
What a guy glad he is on the mend.
So proud of Jack.. such an inspiration ❤
His strength is an inspiration
Thank you for sharing your story with us.
Every blessing to you and yours.
Jack wraps up his story in part two, please have a listen and show your support, it makes a huge difference!
I love the way the interviewer explained the importance scale ..ie addiction at top and so on .
Looking forward to the next video. Any help with this addition in Sheffield
Similar story I left school and that’s when the madness happened up until 28 it’s took me to get stable , drugs and alcohol caused me to jump out a window(not get into why😅) snap my leg in half and now got a muscoskeletal disorder and constant body sensations. The taste of regret is brutal but we go on and learn 👍🏻
All power 2 u mate. We do go on, even when we REALLY dont wanna. Just with i could learn from my constant mistake of taking drugs.
The best interviewers barely talk
I love your podcasts,when im drunk and make comments sometimes it shows..(hopefully it will give this channel traction, because i want it to go viral) .I had a friend with a bad ketamine problem..he actually went to private hospital to clear him out,..major surgery I think..hopefully they could help this very sensible young man ..✌️☘️👁️👁️..all the best mate..bye fella,peace..
This kid has been up against it oxycontin aint no joke plus fent.Be proud of yourself young man.
Great interview boys 👏 god bless
Thankyou for your kind words
I thought the podcast gentleman was brilliant he gave so much information that people need to hear and Jack keep going on the right path you are brave and strong to keep clean well done love and light
Lovely hearing your story , unless you’ve suffered from the chronic sides of addiction it’s hard to fathom how and why it can get this far that a young man ends up in a nappie. Unless the condition is arrested it continues to be progressive like any illness’s left untreated flare up with symptoms . The good news there is a way out . ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Thank you for this. Good luck for your journey.
Thank you for your kind words, we just released part two of this Jack's story, it's worth a watch!
He's very intelligent and articulate. Wishing well on this journey and spreading the awareness!
I've been an addict for a lot of years and all I ever wanted was to have a key worker that I could speak to like you two communicate honestly I don't think I would still be an addict now
Ego has to be monitored by the presence of consciousness. Lose that awareness and we suffer.....lovely chat gents. Very helpful. The spiritual journey has helped so much to ask, "who am I?" I am not my body, my name, my history, my thoughts and emotions. To know thyself....nothing on the outside will make us ultimately peaceful or happy...we have to be that awareness, that love that carries us through the seductions of this world. Who sees? Who is the witness? It is not the addiction or the addict. The addict is simply the effects of the separation from the one loving self.
Really great episode. Although I do disagree to the Gabor comment. The link between childhood trauma and addiction is clear. And it's not just your own childhood trauma, Gabor proves the correlation between trauma passed down through generations, which is also quite key to why people become addicts. There's a generational link that can't be ignored. I think it's clear that although this man had everything on paper as a child materialistically. It still sounds like there was a lack of in his life nonetheless. Thank you for sharing.
I agree with the host I’m afraid
Addiction is an attempt to address a lack of something. You don't get onto the addiction path without a lack of something. That's why some can take drugs and not get addicted. And why some can drink and not get addicted. They aren't looking for anything. Addicts are searching for something that they didn't get in childhood when all the neural pathways were being formed. I was in exactly the same situation as this young lad. Yes, I did have loving parents. But through looking much deeper, and from right after I was born, there were clear signs. I won't go into it all here. I'm now 3 years of sobriety after my second stint at rehab.
enjoyed this.thankyou.
Glad you enjoyed it. Part two of Jack's story is now live and worth a view!
@@altered_attitudes thankyou .i appretiate you letting me know theres a part 2
Yes the host has constant analogies,like”an alcoholic is like a stone stuck at the bottom of the sea,let’s say this fluid is alcohol ,where all that fluid erodes him away,then eventually that stone is moved by a higher power onto the shore so then that stone is dry” and enjoying nature in the sun,but whenever the tide of drink comes near him he’s lucky if he doesn’t relapse and end back in the drink with his mates.. and then he’s happy he may die early but at least that stone wasn’t lonely and had lots of fun never dry..
Jack you are brilliant about telling people how you’re feeling and all the facts 100% shame the host keeps speaking over you! I wish you had a better host, all the best jack ❤️
Thank you for your kind words, we've just wrapped up Jack's story in part 2, please check it out and show your support.
"Jack" isn't the little voice. You are the witness. Jack is just a name, and ego then built a story around that name. Beyond the physical world is an essence that doesn't need a name. That essence needs nothing.....but the ego will use 'Jack' and all the stories around that to ply its trade. You are love...we all are. Thank you for sharing. I love your point about the individual need...we are too general about approach. That's why every individual has got to be fierce about the awareness of their journey.
I was in A.A when I was 16 years old. Back then ( In 1996 ) I couldn't Identify and certainly didn't know what God had to do with it! It is a long story, but after 25 years plus, In and out of various variations of the fellowships i had a psychic change in 2022. I had an awesome dream and the obsession was lifted! I am grateful everyday of my life! Thank you for sharing!
What an amazing young man. I wish him all the very best in life.
Pps. I’d have liked to have heard him finish explain how things are physically now if he has an SPC, urostomy, UC?
I thought anti inflammatorys are bad on the stomach namely ibrupofen? I dnt see how that would help your organs ?
About 3-4 times he’s about to get to a part of his story I’m genuinely interested in and he just keeps getting interrupted about alcohol addiction. Too much comparison to other addictions instead of the one this podcast is meant to be about. So frustrating to watch.
Sorry to hear this. Addiction forms on the brain the same way regardless of the drug or behaviour, when it comes to battling addiction the same tools are used. We will be recording a part two soon, we'll try and stay on topic :D
Take a hint mate. stop interrupting your guests. Every single person is telling you that
I think you’re missing a very important point here… he was abandoned by his father absolutely… money isn’t a relationship, money isn’t love and understanding… but get he wasn’t beaten or didn’t witness atrocities in the house but it’s enough to not feel presence of the father figure to be emotionally traumatised.
well spotted, we hope to do a part 2 soon where we get into this in more detail.
I agree! The father didn’t pay any attention to him and threw money or gifts to substitute his time because he was to busy working and probably felt that was his job to give him what he didn’t have as a child.
@@altered_attitudespart 2 can’t come quick enough. Great podcast and conversation
This is why I always tell and show my kids I love them, I can be strict yes but they need it these days but I always cuddle my kids and tell them I'm proud of them and love them and treat them when they do well in school and life in general. I work away from home quite a bit so I hope I have the balance right.
Complex trauma is both about what you didn't receive (no love, no support, no guidance, neglect), as well as what you did receive (abuse.)
i enjoyed listening to this
all drug and alcohol addiction is raised from Trauma as long as Trauma isn't healed the addiction will always be there like most things in life its one thing play out of another then there is another side to it entity attachment if you have a drug problem this can lead to entity attachment as long as you got the attachment you are not going to kick the habit
Surely this guy said his drug use wasn't related to trauma
@@sinceresong9907 its always linked to trauma anyone who says other wise is in denial its never about geting mixed up with the wrong people
I tried Ket twice when younger, the second time was so much fun that I decided to not do it again.
Big up Jack! He understands his privileges and it’s helped him realise what he needed to do
I know 100% that I can't moderate, it's all or nothing. Two and a half years sober now, my life has completly changed. I'm so glad he's getting better.
Well done Emma 💗
@@elainekent3551 Thank you 🙂
Not true, you can moderate. I recommend you look into The Freedom Model. Checkout podcast and book. Good luck.
It's difficult when you've got a food addiction. Can't go cold turkey.
God Bless you both ❤ 🇿🇦
Great on its always your background. Its from the moment you started..I was reminded when I first took estasy with my friend and that feeling I got. I said I'm going do this next weekend. Chasing that buzz
Well done Jack, heartbreaking to listen to. ❤
Whats the hell is heart breaking. He was a spoilt kid .who became a junkie and a burden on the redt of us!
@@galegrazutis964 There for the grace of God goes anybodys son brother father. Think every body derserves a second chance to make ammends.
This is so relatable. When you come from a good family with every opportunity handed to ya but then still turn to drugs its a head fuk
Well done jack l remember when my son went favering taking drugs it use to upset me and my wife he came from a lovely family and home
Anyone know of any good ways of getting off it? Just stopping doing it doesn’t work and I’ve been to counselling
Find help, we always recommend AA or NA groups, Also you can contact Jack on Instagram here: instagram.com/j.curran95/
Ask yourself if you want a bladder forever next time you have a line, I’ve snorted and injected ket recreationally and scared me every time, stopped doing it, not for me.
Good luck to everyone dealing with addiction stay clean stay safe
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Is this reffered to as 'Special K' bc I've heard ppl talk about this yrs ago, sounded scary af
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Thankyou!
My son 34 had the same story until the 6/6/24 and he took his life he was heavy on ket and Xanax and Valium for about a year but it went on for a few years, we think, he hid it from us he worked had a home car a good life but these drugs ruined his life we buried him 26/6/24 💔this video is very informative Thankyou x
Unimaginable situation, sending love to you and your family 😢
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😭 sorry for your lost so sad❤
Spit the drip ! Saves lives ! Can’t stop but hep ass the knowledge!
Lovely guy wish him all the best it's so sad once drugs overtake everything
They make their choices!!
Seems like a nice lad, he would be a great speaker to the younger kids now. Also, it's rare to hear that accent without this roadman thing. Im from manchester and kids are going rogue.
We think so too, top lad!
Great insight from this guy all the best fella but was really irritating the constant interrupting and ruining his flow when he was getting into a story just let the man speak
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I’d have liked to have heard him finish explain how things are physically now if he has an SPC, urostomy, UC?
Trust me waffling about crack and contraception had nothing to do with his story just ruined the flow of it. I understand in relation to a habit becoming more important than life responsibilities and family but didn’t make sense to me in relation to this fella
My thoughts exactly 💯
people worldwide are self medicating because we all feel something is wrong with ourselves or the world ,its not easy to come off heavy drugs ,its a life long battle for many of us ,your not alone x
Does anyone remember what story the “Alcohol gave me wings to fly, then it took away the sky” quote is from. I normally highlight certain quotes but can’t remember which story this one is from
This is a quote from AA's Big Book
@@altered_attitudes I know I’m currently in recovery myself. Was just wondering which personal story in the book it’s from or is it in the chapters?
6:22 adduction is a learned behaviour mostly. Trauma is the cause, absolutely. Addiction is obviously escapism from bad feeling about the self. I have addicts in my family. They are stuck in a time warp, relaying their victimhood on a loop. Self destruction. Genetic factors may come into play with MTHFR like conditions. Mostly It's behavioural. Linked to NPD etc. Other personality disorders & fragmented psyche. Spoiled brat syndrome, which this lad highlights.
Let the man talk the host likes the sound of his own voice
This interview is driving me insane really want to listen but not sure who’s supposed be on be interviewing here wish he could just tell the story
Let the chap speak . We r missing half his story
great kid, im sure he's cool when sober.
New here but definitely don’t understand why I just hi😢2 years and I feel mentally exhausted!
Ps. I was given ketamine twice in recovery after a surgery talk about a surreal experience being in a medical setting and being in a k-hole! Weird, didn’t like it much!
Well done, I had a shall we stay ok upbringing, mum done her best, I was in addiction for 30 yrs,been clean for nearly 5 years,I decided to start, mum t total, dad,rip, non drinker no addict, I became an addict because all the boys were at it starts with a bit of puff ended with everything, all my choices, we can't blame others, I did it yo fit in 100 %
I could be wrong, but I have only two addictions and those are tobacco and coffee, not to minimise the issue. However, one of my daughters ended up addicted to heroin and the other to alcohol. I believe that it is a hiccup in the genetics or maybe even peer pressure. However, the daughter with alcohol, I do believe it is genetic from her father, where as the one with heroin there is no drug addicts on my side of the family, and I do not believe on her fathers side either. So yes trauma is definitely a factor, and also family dynamics, there was no abuse from me and they knew they were loved and supported. Yet this still happens, its rather perplexing, and I think you either have an addictive personality or not. Of course peer pressure, trauma etc do not help with any of this. I truly feel for people that end up addicted to substances, but honestly at the end of the day (not being mean or nasty), everyone has the choice to say no right from the start. My wish for addicts is that they do get the RIGHT treatment and that the general public become a little more compassionate and try to understand this devastating illness.
3:34 one of the main indicators of trauma is thinking that you have no trauma xxxx❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Most people are somewhat unhappy with themselves and their lives, which is why they escape into alcohol, drugs, TV, films, gaming, social media, overeating - it's all escapism from their current reality.
2 mins in and I’m crying for this beautiful young man🙏
Watching this after ket
I used to work for a Vet and we used this drug on horses, who decided ketamine was good for people? I am shocked this is happening!
It really does feel like insanity doesn't it. We've just released part two of Jack's story-definitely worth checking out!
Is it jack from barnsley
Couldn’t agree more
The host is kind of spoiling the interview.
Stop saying Ketamine ruined his life, HE ruined his life.
Exactly lol
I took it a bit for few weeks, started pissing and couldn’t control it as much, so stopped haha
You're lucky to have had the power to stop when you did.
@@altered_attitudes yep, But I ended up being a crack addict for 6 years I’m recovering now 😊