Cluster Bombs in Ukraine are More Effective Than You Think
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- Did Cluster bombs work in Ukraines military counter offensive? What are Russian army mercenary Wagner group doing on the Polish Border? How is the geopolitics of the grain deal related to the instability in Africa? I'm your average infantryman Chris Cappy you're watching Task & Purpose, lets analyze that.
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Correction: 0.9 kgs to 2 lbs my Americanness is showing *blush* follow me on instagram for more metric conversions: instagram.com/cappyarmy/
also that's not a typo about 1023 countries, there's just 1000 extra countries out there that most of you normies don't recognize.
You were right though, 2 pounds is less than 20kg.
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Error at 1:23
Those counties are simply not recognized for lack of freedom fighters and supplies.
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I was about to point out the lbs/kg mistake, kudos for the quick fix :) Love your content BTW
As a former field artillery officer, I felt I had to weigh in on a few things:
- "Grid Killers" refer to 227mm MLRS or HIMARS rockets containing DPICM bomblets. These have not yet been given to Ukraine, only the 155mm artillery rounds which have a smaller kill radius (~200m in diameter)
- "Dual Purpose" refers to the fact that the bomblets can *either* penetrant the thinner roofs of armored vehicles (such as the rear decks of tanks covering the engine) *or* bounce up to explode at chest height once they hit the ground
and I'd add that _all_ DPICM bomblets are shaped charges.
I don't believe they "bounce up." They just explode on impact.
@@jm-jn9xeYes, they are simply impact fused.
Well we
Need to give Ukraine some of these Grid Killers! You say they haven’t been used and I ask why not? I think we should give them a shit ton of Grid Killers. That sounds like it’s very effective at killing Russians.
Bouncing Betty’s are a type of land mine and they bounce up out of the ground and explode about 3 or 4 feet above the ground. You step on it and it arms you step off and it bounces up and kills you. Our GIs had to deal with them in Vietnam. Landlines are terrible weapons. The Russians are terrible people for using them.
Bigger issue for Ukraine is the amount of Russian mines, the special forces can’t infiltrate Russian lines like they used to.
Which reveals the biggest issue: The Russians have already won because Ukraine has no capability to retake territory, and it never will. So we Nato nations send bombs and woe betide us when the grief of Russian mothers demands vengeance against us for supplying the defeated Ukrainians with bombs to keep the war grinding against Russian (and Ukrainian) families. Peace. Now.
@@danepatterson8107 How is a russian user "we NATO nations"
Russia can't take Ukraine, they won't do shit against NATO without resorting to nuclear weapons.
The only peace is when the last Russian leave Ukraine including Crimea's borders.
@@danepatterson8107you'd have to have brain damage to think they could shit to NATO. Ukraine barely has an airforce, let alone stealth bombers and thousands of tomahawks.
@@granatmofand the us and Canada leaving nato
@@user-jc2in3cp3gNATO is pretty much all American funded until this war popped off and now other NATO countries want to invest in defense!
In WW2, after the proximity fuse was perfected, the allies used artillery shells fitted with proximity fuses set to about 2 feet, and fired them at the German positions at the battle of the bulge. They worked very well.
It's not always about what works how well, I think, but also how much ammunition of any kind you give to Ukraine, which is, better just one kind of bomb that works well or two kinds of bombs that work well, i would always take both.
2ft? Seems a little low. 2M or more seems more likely. I've heard they would denotate in the tree tops. Which sent splinters at the enemy below.
It was 2 meters, I got my units confused.
It’s not just that the DPICM shells make it more likely than a single conventional shell to hit a trench that makes them more effective against them, it’s that they’ll usually score multiple hits. Properly dug trenches like the one shown in the video follow a zigzag path for a reason. If a single shell does land in the trench it’s bad news for anyone in that part of it but the angles stop the fragments and much of the blast effect from clearing out the whole trench. The cluster shells will likely land bomblets in multiple parts of the trench at once, causing casualties in a large part of it at once.
Airburst HE is much better against trenches. DPICM perfect for counter-battery fire and against troops and vehicles in the open.
If it makes you feel any better airburst is getting uniform tungsten pellets!@@B.D.E.
Outlawed in 1023 countries? Damn! World got big all of a sudden.
Excellent presentation. I agree with the concern about the "dud" rate for the early submissions. During my tour in Vietnam, I once had a Private who was demonstrating his ability to juggle. I asked him to gently set now the three steel balls he had been tossing around. They were duds. These were early versions which were two part. a spring loaded metal winglet frame and the munition shaped as a sphere about the size of a racquet ball. My nephew shared his experience in Afghanistan and he rarely came across dud submissions. While not scientific, I agree the dud rate may have decreased.
The US had already begun getting rid of the ones that didn't have very low dude rates already also. They hadn't finished yet, though they were all FAR better than Russian ones.
And that private was allowed to carry a gun? 😬
@@Jehty_ Funny in retrospect. For the record, I trusted my life with those marines (18 to 21 years old) then and now.
@@Jehty_privates are dumb. The ones who survive to become sergeants are Darwin’s choice.
Outstanding commentary, you are fast becoming my favorite military channel
AMAZING VIDEO, there is an error at 1:16 you say outlawed in 123 countries but it shows 1023 countries, keep it up! amazing stuff :)
Was just about to say this! Haha. Beat me to it
Yes. Just wanted to say that
double taked and wondered when all those countries got added
also another mistake saying 20 kg is equal to 2 lbs lmao. 1 minute in and already left.
No, this is accurate. They created new countries to make them even more illegal.
WW2 took 6 years to end
The fact of the matter is war takes time. When you're living through a historic moment, sure feels like forever doesn't it?
The American revolution took 8
@@iattacku2773till be going if it wasn't for the frenchies
@@julianshepherd2038 it's always the French
this conflict started in 2014
9 years and still going
god ww2 must have felt like a lifetime to just about everyone involved.
Another great video! Keep ‘em coming 😊😊😊
1:15 definitely worth adding that a lot of the things these DPICMs will be aiming at would be vehicles which *aren’t* well armoured. Artillery pieces are what comes to mind, all the trucks which carry around artillery ammo and drag towed artillery around. Stuff that is not technically expensive but a real pain in the ass to lose it.
Something to remember, the areas cluster munitions are being used are already heavily mined, meaning there will need to be a massive effort to remove unexploded munitions in those areas anyway.
Yey! More inhabitable environments!
@@qchtohere8636lots of European Forrests have mines lol
Do cluster munitions help clear mined areas?
@@theterminaldave Not really. At ground level the mine doesn't get hit by shrapnel unless it's a near direct hit by a bomblet. Maybe the cluster shell will take out a couple of mines, but then it also leaves a couple of unexploded bomblets.
@@bignig7223 wtf no they dont
I found most bomblets in my unit when we cleared a mountain top in the Balkans. It was US made BLU-97's. I found one that didn't deploy it's parachute, making the whole cleared area unsafe again because of the risk of underground uxo's. I still have one of the "spiders", the lid that pops off when the parachute deploys, which I use as ashtray
Interesting, now I'm going to have to Google what the lid looks like
Well thanks for your service. And that sounds like quite the cool ashtray.
Cool story😮 my dad is (was? Retired colonel) a master blaster. 28 years 26 EOD
@@Olsenator*Thanks for your service to MIC and terrorist US govemnt*
You didn't state your military.
Great episode Cappy! Keep it up!
2:47 Dude slammed that wood down like he has something to tell God.
Welp, after you recorded this, Poland arrested some Wagner mercenaries in Krakow that were attempting to recruit ethnically Russian Poles into some kind of plot. So that theory about what they were up to in Belarus was pretty spot on.
Source dependable?
Site your evidence source. Please.
Actually they were distributing wagner recruitment material, a poster with wagner logo which said "we are here, join us" with a QR code leading to a wagner recruitment page.
This was in Krakow the 2nd largest city in Poland, and its said there are more such people elsewhere who have yet to be caught.
They are lucky the police got involved, I know a lot of people who would see it as a unforgiveble provocation.
Ethnically russian Poles? There were 8203 Russians in Poland in 2011 census. Not much people to recruit. Thing you are talking about are more propaganda stunt that a real recruitment.
@@clmBerserkerHow many Poles are active in in ukr? Turnabout is fair play.
To say that 2 lbs is less than 20 kg is technically true, but also, which number are they closer to? 2 lbs or 44 lbs?
Americans and metric system😅😅😅
20 kg are maybe 9 lbs. Just divide by 2 and go slightly below that number and you will get a good rough estimate
2 lbs, according to the 1023 countries that have outlawed them.
@@buddymutt123exact opposite, 9kgs are about 20lbs, so you multiply with approximately 2.2
@@buddymutt123lol. Never believe people in comments. Look it up dude 😊
It was raining heavily when he said 'it sounds like rain then chaos". I stopped to listen to the rain and realised they could have been referring to the explosions going off sounding like rain. That is scary
Great channel thank you.
Some "average infantryman"! This guy lays out the situation at a very high level of understanding, from the grind of trench warfare to the multi-dimensional chess game being played by nations in a very hot area. I would rather listen to him than 90% of the so-called experts you usually see on cable news. Just great work.
"Average infantryman" is a mild understatement, I recall from the early videos him having been a platoon leader.
The truth is is the average American Infantryman is an extremely well-trained and educated individual.
@@prairielandoutdoors7544 At fighting goat herders and rice farmers?
@@miriamweller812 those are very ignorant stereotypes and I thought neither one I fought the best trained soldiers they had and they fought the best they as a matter of fact. Something you obviously know nothing about. Lmao Marxist cuck.
@@miriamweller812You win. This is and will be the most uninformed comment on this video. Buffoon.
[From Deep Space Nine, "Siege of AR-558." Captain Sisko has suggested to use the Dominion's subspace mines against the Jem'Hadar.]
Ezri Dax: "A few hours ago, we thought of these mines as the kind of ruthless weapon only the Dominion would use. But now..."
Reese: "...they've just become a whole lot friendlier."
Nice, my favourite ST series haha
@@ArmySigspeak star trek
Reaching deep into the scholar text. You are a man of culture I see.
but Rom, a person not known for his intelligence, came up with a method to demine, showing that he was smarter than the founders, the vorta and the jem hadar.
Hollywood morality for ya.
He is an impressive commentator in full command of the subject matter. So I have subscribed and look forward to view more of his pieces.
Appreciate the still entertaining, but more serious style of this video.
I remember reading about the US dropping cluster munitions in Afghanistan and that the individual bomblets were painted bright orange so that the could be easily seen and avoided. The problem was that the Air Force was also dropping humanitarian aide MREs that were the same bright orange, and people were confusing the two.
On a side note: A friend of the family was in an armillary unit at Fort Sill and his best story was about how they had a 155mm howitzer on some kind of practice pad and some of the men got real 155mm shells and bags of propellant because they thought it was supposed to be a live fire exercise and not just training. The problem was that the howitzer was sighted on the Lawton, OK branch of Sears. As the story goes they loaded the howitzer and were about and were about to fire when a Sergeant figured out what was going on and ran at them screaming to stop at the top of his lungs. Which brings us to the proverb that a Sergeant is motion outranks an officer without a clue.
You mean to tell me that American troops were commiting war crimes in Afghanistan? Who'd have thunk of that hahahaha
They were NOT illegal THEN and are NOT illegal NOW for the US to use them! @@tercel9710
Even if they were used.
Which they were not.
Their use is not a war crime.
@@bkane573это военное преступление, потому что из-за кассетных бомб страдают больше гражданские чем военные
@@spintos2277not how it works
1:18 1023 countries... i didnt know we had that many
Things have changed.
I didn’t know there was a question of their effectiveness. I thought it was a question of potential civilian casualties from munitions that failed to detonate.
We stopped caring about that because... reasons
I have been monitoring this war seriously especially since the killing of civilians especially children please keep up the good work bringing us updates......thank you
Cluster bombs work especially against large enemy forces in offensive (open ground, large columns...). Against entranched enemies, not much. Also I suspect they can destroy residential areas quite well.
And Ukraine has been putting cluster and other types of bombs to good use on ethnic russian neighborhoods and villages since 2014.
That is true but Russia already flattened most of the places they're holding months ago lol
fire shell ammunitions might work better against entrenched forces
@@milo-qh7cv thermobarics, baby.
@@vladcraioveanu233Napalm
The cluster munitions aren't a game changer because they are cluster munitions, but because they are munitions that Ukraine can get right now. The US has a lot of it and it can be sent quickly and requires pretty much no training.
I wonder how many friendy fire kills the Ukrop Nazis meanwhile got with all that old shit NATO fascists sent them.
Even the USA got a quite big friendly fire kills number and that with much more controll over everythijng and not pushed at all, since they mainly bomb defenseless third world countries.
Now add utter chaos, terrible training, shit surveillance and using old garbage up to cluster ammunition on top, and you get thousands and thousands of kills by your own side.
Since they mainly fool around not even at but in front of the first defenseline, which is mainly a blocker than anything else, they mainly fire at their own positions, while the Russian posions are dozens of km away.
They are more effective than HE rounds for counter-battery fire, and against groups of vehicles.
@Achmedesander exactly. They exist in the millions and some are approaching decommission. Not a wonder weapon but rather a highly practical option that makes economic sense. But they have to be sent in numbers.
12:47 there's slight a difference between targeting civilian centers and boats on purpose and missing a military warehouse / having missile intercepted above civilian buildings
Masterful as aways, soldier! Fantastic delivery.
3:01 Blood for the Blood God! 😂 I can't help but laugh out seeing that symbol.
Wasn't just me then, thankfully!
Fascinating video, thank you for feeding my hunger towards a military minded overview of what's happening (or at least trying to with the limited reports)
Thx for your use of maps 👍 😊
I appreciate your perspective on things. I like your form of "wokism." You closing comment of the video about the illusion of choice was spot on.
I must ask though: You 're a soilder; I have only ever heard of Marines (with a decade under my belt) being referred to as "Crayon muchers." Was that your editor's doing? I notice at least one typo (in the "powerpoint slides" particularly) per video where control is spelt with two Ls or center is spelt in the British manner. Just wanted to bring this to your attention as my inner English language educator is flipping out. haha
The big issue with cluster sub-munitions they just hang around in the environment for so long. It is so freaking hard to find them to remove them. 500lbs from WW2 are still being found in Europe and a 500lbs bomb is a large 'easily' found thing.
American are to have a 24 hour self destruct
Mmmm, not really. The thing about large WW2 bombs is that their triggers were very primitive compared to today, so they regularly buried themselves in the ground quite a ways before detonating. Those that didn't detonate at all could easily be buried deep, especially if they were covered-over by the explosions of other bombs in the salvo. This is why it takes so long for frost-heave to return them to the surface. Cluster munitions, as noted, weight less than 2 lbs, as opposed to 500, and have far more sensitive triggers. Even the 1-4% that don't go off remain on the surface, which is ironically where a lot of the danger comes from; kids can find the submunitions laying on the ground and pick them up out of curiosity, leading to detonation. But that's a very different thing from the context of re-surfacing large WW2 bombs.
Hasn't stopped the orcs from using them. So it's fair game for Ukraine
Its a problem but Ukraine notes each bomb used, and has a plan to demine the whole areas.
The issues is Russia using these weapons and with no regard for anyone.
So trying to moralize Ukraines use of these weapons is flawed at best.
Here it is at least ukraine firing cluster bomblets on ukrainian soil.
It is entirely in their right to make that decision. Russian mines are a much much larger problem since they mine everything from roads to corpses. No one knows where they are placed, while ukraine is aware where they firied DPICM shells.
DPICM have a shaped-charge warhead. The streamers or parachute is to slow it down and orient the shaped-charge towards the ground (the top of vehicles). If it makes a hard impact like on the top of an armored vehicle, the shaped-charge goes off sending a penetrator into the armor. If it makes a soft impact, it detonates like a hand grenade spreading shrapnel hopefully among enemy supporting infantry. Hence Dual Purpose Improved Conventional Munitions (DPICM).
Interesting. Russian are already welding metal cages on top of their tanks. Maybe add a mattress to defeat DPICMs?
Fantastic description
Well thought and spoken
Excellent reporting.
Not that it makes cluster munitions ethically better, but scatterable mines have a near 100 percent rate of not blowing up when they hit the ground.
Excellent job of explaining the war, sir! Plus, you do it every week. Keep up the good work my friend!
He is full of sht and just repeats what cnn/msnbc sayts.
I joined in 1999. Battle of Nassaria we had the Geneva officers or fun killers as we called em consistently interviewing us. Would piss us off. 300m behind the lines and giving us bs bc we could give a lil mist to our enemy's dome. We had the 16in m16 with no ACOG n took plenty of names for our fellow marines that got hit. Would be cool if you could do an episode on that if u haven't already..Thanks Chris. Semper Fi.
Great commentary!
And remember kids, nothing can be a warcrime if you dont lose or if you are currently the strongest military/country geopolitically speaking.
Yep. You can bomb the sh out of a country for democracy and kill civilians with humanitarian purpose :) And the so-called "human rights" organizations will simply stay silent and give you a tongue bath cause you are paying their bills after all.
^THIS
THIS!!!
And remember kids, blanket statements like this are stupid and USUALLY false.
"American servicemember protection act"
Google it
Russia has been using cluster munitions from the start. If they didn't want them being used in this war then they shouldn't have been using them.
well if you want to play the tit for tat blame game Ukraine was using them on civilians and separatists in 2014 and beyond, just sayin :P
You have proof or you just assuming that they have I’ve seen just about every combat footage that’s dropped from the early stages of the war and not once did I see cluster munitions being used
If Russia had been using cluster bombs from the beginning eukraine would have started using them earlier.
Btw where is your proof?
@@dmaddog1766 Just search for "Russia cluster munitions in Ukraine" and you'll find loads of articles in the press, reports from the ICC and a slew of NGOs and journalists which include photographic evidence.
And Ukraine had a limited number of cluster munitions at the start of the 24/2/22 invasion - which yes, they did use. But they didn't have many so needed some to be supplied. Which the US finally relented and supplied in 2023.
Love ur vids
Good job, as always !
Reference your occasional sponsor, I saw those GOAT guns at a store in Twin Falls called Toytown.
"and we all feel like we're being gas lit by nation states" Yeah I've never heard a more accurate statement about this era of the world, and sadly it only gets worse as time goes on.
Yeah and shameless folks like the author of this video are making a mint shilling out propaganda for NATO and the Military Industrial Complex.
Those early cluster shells used by UKr were old Greek 120mm. Wide circular pattern with a few in the middle. The newer 155s are much more of a blanket.
Dude you’re so good…. Your analytics and the way you present your information is like Rachael Maddow at MSNBC. You present nothing but a truthful journalism. You should get your own show in the main media dude. Oh thank you for your service and standing for the truth in the era when misinformation is leading the media world. I like how you analyze everything with FACTS.
Exactly like Rachael Maddow at MSNBC! Couldn't have said it better.
Short clarification on the cluster bombs for metric users. The mentiont 2 pounds are ruffly 1 kg. That make each of them around twice as havy as a standard frag granade, like for example the german DM 51 or britsh HG 85.
When I was in Afghanistan, Kuwait, Iraq and in Laos, I saw whole clusters, especially the BLU’s, still unexploded. in Laos many injuries and deaths were amongst farmers, because these BLU’s had slowly sunk into the ground over the years of war there. Farmers tilled their land with hand held back-hoes, when they hit one of these BLU’s it generally exploded and badly injured or killed the farmers. Not only was that a tragedy for the farmers family, the economic costs to the family and community was catastrophic.
The operative point is """ the farmers tilled their land """ as opposed to being refugeed ( sic ) to a foreign land where he is not welcome or impaled like a scarecrow next to his wife and daughters.
And the point is, Russia has already covered their areas with mines. Its all got to be demined anyway.
This whole war in Ukraine is about NATO expansion. Anybody with a clue knows this.
@@karlheinzvonkroemann2217 No, it just a happens to be what Putin says (and that of course is nonsense). You can look at the effect of Putins invasion of Ukraine, Finland and Sweden are joining NATO, and the reason is to protect themselves from an aggressive Russia. Russian military wrecked and Ukraines expanded. If the idea was to protect Russia, Putin has don't precisely the opposite.
New Russian propaganda is that Ukraine and Russia are brothers and should not be fighting each other. Lets stop fighting and talk. That won't work. Only way that the fighting stops is for all live Russian troops to leave Ukraine (that of course includes Crimea).
@@karlheinzvonkroemann2217 we all know that, coz it's what Putin keeps telling us.
The official dud rate of 2% comes when tested on hard packed desert testing grounds in the american southwest with no ground cover.
When they are used in forests or fields the dud rate quickly rises to 20% or more. They get caught up in trees, grasses and bushes. Then their impact fuses dont detonate them.
Why don´t they have a different type of armament as well like a 24h time fuse for instance ? To be this does not make any sense.
@@sierraecho884because these weapons were usually designed in the 50 60 and 70s when we were preparing for wwIII with Russia. No need to worry about UXOs when nukes wiped everything out
@@AcidGambit419 Yes, I understand, they have to cheap as well. However, it is not that simple. Otherwise why make cluster munitions at all if nukes wipe out everything right ?
So they have their role, and not every war is nuclear and they knew that back then as well.
So the question still stands.
Attacking an area with this munition and then moving in this area with your own troops makes is way more dangerous than it has to be. Even back then this did not make much sense. They probably just made it cheaper and called it a day.
Even an RPG 7 has a self destruct and most other stuff out there too. Just seems lazy and cheap to me.
They do have self destruct weapons. DK which were sent.
Don't confuse hope with facts. No self-destruct function. 10 to 30% remain active. These weapons where always designed to kill Rusians. Now we have their brain dead cheerleaders in dresses. AFU
Great informative report! Thanks! 🇺🇸 🙏 🇺🇦
I loved the M795 factory footage 🤘
Like people have said I think biggest benefit of these cluster munitions is purely the stockpiles available, they might not work particularly well but they are sure better then nothing. At one point I heard ukranian artillery crews could fire 4 shells a day, while Russian crews were firing 20. Russia has a huge artillery advantage so anything that will reduce that advantage is a good thing.
How can it be an advantage when your opponent has the worlds largest stockpile of cluster munitions? All Ukraine has done is give the green light to Russia to use cluster munitions which they did a few days ago around Robotyne and to great effect.
@@CyrilSneer123Russia has been using them from the beginning of the war.
@@dwaneanderson8039 actually, russia AND ukraine have been using cluster bombs since 2014. You know, in the conflict that has been a war in East Ukraine since then.
@@CyrilSneer123 Russia has been bombing anything from houses to kindergartens and you're acting as if these butchers need the green light to do anything.
@@Kapito13 overly emotional argument there mate
Even if the DPICM cluster shells that were sent weren't living up to expectations for some reason, they're still filling a critical role by allowing Ukraine to have at least something to fire from their artillery guns while Western production catches up to the large amount this war has shown that it requires.
Reportedly they work well for counter battery fire.
@@baneofbanes AND can be dismantled and used as individual bombs dropped from Drones
@@baneofbanesIts gonna be fun for the Ukrainian bomb squads&civilians...
Good news it's official UKR 400,000 DEAD and 2 MILLION wounded no Nazis left soon poor Preston.
You do understand they're NAZIS the Propaganda has been so good your clueless and still think they're winning 😂
they need to change the fuses so they detonate in any direction when the inertia changes drastically shortly after launch from the container.
"Each weighing less than 20 kilograms, or about 2 pounds"
is intriguing way to describe the weight of the submunitions.
This was an amazingly dense video (by the standards of popular CZcams videos), summarizing single topics covered in probably a dozen other news videos and articles I've seen. Big props to you for a great video condensing the past several weeks' hot topics into one easily digested 20-minute report for the many viewers who may not have had time or interest to spend a few hours a week scouring for news. Here's a like and comment for the algo!
That's what happens when you get a fat check from the cias propaganda fund xD
@@whatsmolly5741 any evidence of that?
@@whatsmolly5741 I think that happened more on the Honeywell sponsored video slash corporate promo piecee on battlefield lasers.
AFAIK the rest of the time Cappy struggles to pay bills with sponsorships from oh-so-lavish companies like Goat Guns, War Thunder, et al. /sarcasm
I think his positioning is a necessary niche for all the kneejerk nationalists whose other fare consists of what, FOX? He has a clearly pro-US bias, but Cappy slides in a lot of very gently worded questions that ask the viewer to ask what the official party line is usually hiding.
Assuming that Americans will have to continue living with each other, this is the kind of compromise or at least appearance of such that we need in order to offset the polarization and accelerationist partisanship that's driving profitable news/social media demagogues.
Pretending to be civil with our fellow citizens is what kept the US going for decades before the Internet came along. :P
"Is it going to grind to a stalemate"?! Its been a stalemate for 11 weeks now...
...and D Day was a stalemate for 8 weeks...largest seaborne invasion in history. Your point?
You have a real talent
the ones that look like lawn darts or have stabilizer ribbons are shaped charges.. they need those to cause drag so they land nose first, and they can take out many armored vehicles from the thinner top area.
Love how the Pentagon says it could take a YEAR to ship an Abrams tank to Ukraine, but got them Cluster Bombs in less than a week. Almost like they just wanted to trick Germany into sending their Leopards instead.
It is more complex and needs its own supply line and specialist training. Having said that the UK managed it.
well, Germany and the US basically played chicken regarding the tanks
Well seeing that you can only transport 1 or 2 tanks per our biggest transports when at the same time you can ship hundreds of thousands pounds of bombs, I don't see how that wouldn't line up with their timeline; though I agree with you that I think we agreed to send Abrams to call Germany's bluff and get the ball rolling.
Pedophi|e Joey doesn't *really* want a Ukrainian victory; he wants more opportunity for groups like FTX to launder money back to the Democrat Party.
Or maybe cluster bombs are already designed to work with the 155mm howitzers the Ukrainians have been using for some time, while the Abrams is a wholly new and complex weapons systems with which the Soviet-gear-trained Ukrainian tankers had no experience?
A 155mm DPICM round contains 88 submunitions. And they are all shaped charge with blast/frag effect. The penetration is low, 40mm of steel, but that is enough for most light armored vehicles and even tanks if they hit a weak spot.
3:02 I almost spit out of surprise seeing the mark of Khorne in the corner
The guy's surname at 7:05 literally means "hecker's son"
A Cluster Artillery Shell can devastate an area the size of 4 to 6 Football/Soccer Fields. I saw them in action during an Army Exercise back in 2004.
A single shell?
Not a single 155 shell. A 155 battery TOT...yes.
A well placed cluster bomb won’t blow up a tank… but it will destroy all its sensors, its targeting equipment, it’s fuel tank, it’s engine, it’s communication antennas, all it’s ports, and if a single bomblet gets in a hatch, or port, the crew is toast… or rather Swiss cheese… it will also take out any support troops around, or on top of it.
Another fine job.😊
A lot of people complain about unexploded cluster bombs but what about the unexploded landmines?
Correction: Lukashenko is not a president of Belarus, he is a dictator who brutally seized power in 2020. Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya is an elected president in exile now.
Why do you write your funny fantasies ? Sveta Cutlet , is the president of Belarus?) And all Belarusians as one for her?) Then why is she still not in Belarus, because if everyone is for her, then Lukashenka is probably already being kicked somewhere in the basement?))
@@user-tf4lh8oq8u There are clear documented evidence that she won elections. Furthermore we see unprecedented repressions which suppress will of the people. Just a simple fact that after 3 years of elections citizens are arrested and tortured in dozens each day just for subscriptions on youtube channels, shows dictator's fear and his understanding that he has no or very limited support in the country, and that all what he has is just a brute force fueled by Russia.
@1:19 outlawed in 1023 countries 😂
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DPICM I had experience with was shaped...hence dual-purpose. It could penetrate the top armor on some armored vehicles. Maybe not a tank, but APCs would be vulnerable.
Thanks for this video. And I'm glad you are pulling for Ukraine against the Russian invasion.
Why did you say less than 20kg (around 40 lb), but then say they were 2 lb each?
Conflicting sources and a typo, most likely.
Aerojet ordinance created a clusterbomb variant with a very low failure rate. The US had so many in stockpile, they didn't really pursue the newer versions. Hopefully this has changed.
Very funny.
US stopped using these in the gulf due to US casualties.
@@user-tt6il2up4o: The Marines drove over the fields where the bomblets had been dispersed that's why the casualties were "so high." The weapons worked as intended it was the Officers who made the mistakes.
DPICM is one of the best defensive weapons the US has ever built, with heavy fire from a few artillery pieces, and a free minefield in one.
Just don't go in that field until the engineers have marked a safe path.
Maybe. Maybe we should keep a balanced stockpile of clusters and precision explosives and "payloads" clusters for low civilian pop areas, precision when shelling cities.
Remember the WWII Firefly. Burning off the grass & weeds could cook off mines. Also, burning out tree lines could turn bunkers into ovens.
At last, somebody who has been among a military force and has researched the overall content of the battle
Well done 👏 I was a sgt major many years ago, and I concur with your analysis
Lol someone is a Warhammer fan over there with that symbol of Khorne @3:10 I wasn't expecting that.
"Blood for the blood god, Skulls for the skull throne."
I noticed that too lol. Kinda dark in this context...
@@stonem0013 I know right? It's a bit chilling to see on a real soldiers drone screen as he's target finding.
@@lordsesshomaru8960 I think it was pasted over the footage by whomever shared it, rather than the drone operator having it on his screen 😆
@@stonem0013 That definitely sounds more believable lol 😄
I can understand not wanting to use cluster bombs on someone else's territory, but if Ukraine wants to use them to liberate its own territory, I have no problem with it. They'll be the ones who have to clean up the unexploded munitions so their own civilians aren't killed or injured years later.
Have to clean up the ruzzian mines anyway.
Ya, except that's Russian territory now, and will be forever.
@@jackgunn1480 LMAO , Russia won't even be a country by the end of this ,, most of the east will be taken by China and Japan
>I'm Only fine with death when it's suicide........... are you canadian ?
You act like it's an easy thing to clear mines when it's not...
Some highranked specialist stated that cluster bombs are rather useless against trenches.
@Task & Purpose. Thank you for the informative video.
Without the background noise (music) it would be even better.
My view on the ethics is that you can use whatever you want on your own territory in an existential threat situation. It’s why we have out nukes. Some weapons should never be used offensively in foreign territory, but defending yourself is a completely different story.
Does that include Palestinians using suicide bombers in their own territory ?
As long as they detonate them with all their friends at a party!@@tedstewart114
Any country can use any weapon against NATO on its territory , and it will not be a war crime ?
The civilians who have to live in that area might disagree with you. Many in that area are pro-Russia btw. But just in general, governments committing crimes against their own people is and has always been a "thing". NATO was all about going places to fight and topple governments that do that. Serbia. Iraq. Libya. Syria. Or have you forgotten? But now Ukraine can do no wrong on their own territory because they have NATO support. I wonder how that works.
Ukraine used cluster bombs on the "moderate rebels" separatists since 2014, as this video pointed out. Thats totally cool by NATO. But Assad allegedly used chlorine on Obama's favorite "moderate rebels" in Syria (turns out that was false. ISIS used chemical weapons but the US pressured inspectors and the media to pin it on Assad) and that almost got NATO directly invading Syria. Obama's red lines, remember? Luckily public opinion at the time did not support more wars. Wonder how all that works.
@@gggg-xv7nbno they won't. Because it is a choice between Russian ammo with 40% dud rate, and western with 2,5%. Beside, there has never been held an election to determine how pro Russian those cities really are
Frankly it seems like they’ve been as helpful as the storm shadows have been. Definitely was the right decision to send them.
long-range missiles are a complicated story. This stealth and its application leads to a rapid upgrade of anti-stealth air defense software in general. Now storm shadow has already noticeably lost its effectiveness
There is also a problem with cluster munitions, and this problem lies in the fact that Russia has much more such munitions than NATO. If Ukraine has begun to use such ammunition, then what prevents Russia from starting to use them 10 times more?
Only the nations with negligible militaries have signed that agreement.
I've always wondered why DPICM Don't have timed fuses also, so if the impact doesn't detonate it, it will self detonate
Props to Cappy for being transparent with his bias. Quality work great job man keep it up.
it's good propaganda.
Most western CZcamsrs are Pro-Ukraine. But it's nice to acknowledge anyway.
@@granatmof Ukraine arrests western youtubers that aren't pro Ukraine. Great people over there. lol shitbags.
@@granatmof Most non-evil humans, one would hope. There hasn't been such a morally clear conflict since WWII, a fact any soldier will tell you, and indeed is the reason so many have gone there to fight.
kings and generals is one of the worst
I LOVE how when the Ukrainians didn't have cluster munitions, and the Russians did, the MSM kept citing a treaty (no one had signed) that banned cluster munitions. Now... people's memories are selective.
Nobody's memory is selective except yours. We remember 18 months of Russia using them to deliberately target civilians. Hard to care about them being shot at invaders.
I know I just did a google about cluster munitions and most articles refer to alleged Russian use early in the war and how terrible it is. Now it's fine apparently.
Using them in a defensive war on one's own territory to fight off an existential threat is definitely much more morally justifiable than using them on someone else's territory in an unprovoked attack via an army that has no qualms about targeting civilian infrastructure.
@@JeanLucPicard85 In the end the guy is right in his assessment on MSM, morally justifiable or not.
It’s fine if you are defending your territory especially since us cluster bombs are monumentally better than Russian ones
gr8 video. respectfully, near 1:15 the audio says there are 123 countries that have outlawed cluster bombs. The graphic on the screen read 1023
Hey man, what is that mini AK platform that’s khaki in the background?
I thought Cluster Bomb munitions were banned by International Law?
This is true. But when did international law stop Washington war criminals?
EU has paid for serious infrastructure in Poland.
German and French army can be there in hours.
Britain has been pissed with Russia for two hundred years.
We never stopped the Great Game.
All three colonial country will get karma
Russia used to be our friend, UK, Germany,France we went to war with all of them, and now we team up with them to go after our old friend. I understand why Germany supports Ukraine since Ukraine has an active Nazi party, but everybody else always claimed they didn't like Nazis. Just saying seems kinda strange, this is where we are now.
I am thankful for you to pronounce Kherson the right way 😅❤
The submunitions weighed three Big Macs or half a Domono's cheese filled crust pizza with the works.
Just wanna say how much I appreciate your channel. Consistent professional funny informative balanced etc etc
You're one of the few notifications I don't cuss at I'll always check and enjoy ❤
I highly welcome such in-depth information from an apolitical source. Your report is obviously genuine, and eye-opening. Keep up the work, good sir, and keep our nation informed without the propaganda we have been (unfortunately) accustomed to. The Land of the Free and Home of the brave needs the truth. Keep it coming.
pffft LOL
apolitical? He even mentiones he is biased towards ukraine in his own words so no.
@@mojewjewjew4420how is that political
because he is against russian and pro ukraine due to politics,he doesnt know anything about both other than what the politicians want them to know. Plus taking a side in a war is political or do you clown have some kind of ADHD?@@gabe6475
@@mojewjewjew4420 I meant he doesn't show an obvious bias towards either party. And in this case announcing a bias in that war is a sign of honesty. I like hearing facts more than opinions, and in my humble opinion, this gentleman does pretty well in this regard.
The audio and video were a little funky on this video? Still, thanks for the coverage!
those petal mines are doing a great job in the Donetsk center trenches.