Man Utd vs Spurs vs Aston Villa vs Newcastle | TOP 4 DEBATE
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- The lads on The Kick Off predict their top four for the end of the season.
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“FA Cup’s harder to win than the Europa League” is when I checked out 😂
Yeh almost clocked off the video at this shout
Yeh, the mighty Wigan & Portsmouth have won it in the last 15 years 😂
wigan lifting the europa league@@samkhan5661
This Arsenal fan's logic is typically.
4 Europa leagues more like. Guy’s a moron,
That arsenal fan is trying so hard to discredit any praise given to emery it's actually pathetic 😭
They just don’t like accepting that they are an outlier. I don’t get why arsenal fans keep doing this. You don’t see it with spurs fans and mourinho/conte.
Arsenal fans are just weird
just the fact that he couldnt do it w arsenal is big. and now seeing someone who can. hes a manager who needs a team that will listen to him and dealing w egos of bigger players is just not what hes good at, which is what u need at arsenal.
Only fans of other clubs ask the question 'Should Arsenal have kept Emery?' We played poor football with him and people were joking about relegation the season he got sacked
yet none of the spurs newcastle or chelsea fans said they wont take emery over thier current manager yet arsenal fans have to rate emery is laughable lets see where he is at the end of the season because few weeks ago spurs were in a 'title race' too
Arsenal lad: “that’s what Emery teams do. Strong starts, fall a part.”
Literally the Arteta special.
first job as a manager vs 15 years in the trade and still doing it
@akech24 true but arteta has fallen apart at the end two seasons in a row
fell apart to 5 points from the title is better than falling apart to 12th place in the league@@SASMADBRUV7
@@SASMADBRUV7 he also won a fa cup with the team emery was in relegation form with
@deku1036 bottled the ucl space in 21/22 and the league in 22/23.
People forget about Villarreal under Emery. That Europa league was their first title beating Manchester United in a final. Then they almost made champions league final the following year, beating Juventus and Bayern Munich only losing to Liverpool.
Arsenal fans are still so so so weird about Emery, move on lads, he's better than Arteta, that doesn't mean Arteta's bad
He’s better at managing lower tier clubs. Arteta is better managing too clubs than Emery was
@@jacobfraser440arteta hasn’t done anything in the sport.
Mate, it's undeniable that Arsenal fans have always had a strong passionate sexual attraction towards Arteta. That's why they backed him despite finishing 8th two season in a row, a similar squad where Emery got them 5th, European final and a 22 match unbeaten run with.
Thing is most of us don’t really care about him hell I’m happy for him but Jesus why can’t people say how good of a job he’s doing without mentioning Arsenal
@@donquixotedoflamingo5510what happened in that final btw, as well as that 5th place we were well on course to finish 3rd that season (speaking as an Arsenal fan who actually watched our games)
Did that clown really just say the fa cup is a bigger trophy than the europa league
Crazy man. Fa cup is equals for a Europa CONFERENCE league not a Europa league ahaha
People always move the goalposts to suit a agenda
it is
About it being a bigger trophy is probably not right, but the point about playing better teams deeper into the tournament in the fa cup is valid.
@@kullbread9972 yeah its a harder tournament near the end while europa is harder in the beginning stages so theyre pretty close
No way these guys think Emery will have this team fall apart… 2nd in the table in 2023 calendar year. This isn’t a run of form, this is consistent. 5-1 was an outlier
I remember when this was Tottenham in 2022 under conte. 2nd best team point wise behind city. Villa has yet to face injuries, we will see where they are under adversity.
@@jaedon7446 yet to face injuries? Two ACLs for starters before a full half of football was played this season, and Ramsey and Moreno are just this month coming back into the squad. So that’s 4 starters out from last year.
@@matthewkrulak744 alright I’ll correct myself. “Significant injuries”. I just don’t think Vila could do what Newcastle and Tottenham are currently doing with their injury crisis. Also think they are both better teams when fully fit. All apart of football tho. Thought we battered you the other week, but just one of those games that didn’t go our way.
@@jaedon7446 we lost our whole left side within the first week of the league. We havn't had a first team all year.
@@matthewlatham4654 we were missing 9 players + cash injuring Bentancur compared to your 2 when we played. There is no comparison. Fair play to your current form though👏👏
Emery knocked Arteta out of Europa league 😂. Also got to two CL semi finals, once with Villareal. Also got the highest win rate in PSGs managerial history.
This 'villas emerys level' is a shallow and tired take.
Interesting how no one talks about Villa’s key injuries..
Exactly it's so impressive that they're up there without the real captain buendia and ramsay
Over the calendar year, Villa are second to Man City on points. Also, there has been no drop off. Villa are in title race.
There's no title race in Dec. If they're still there come March then yeah.
Spurs were top over two seasons. We still won fcuk all
@@sonofCWlike always then 😅
Speaking as a Villa fan, I think that the lack of pressure is really helping the football we’ve been playing. The team has great quality and they work well together but top spot is a bit of a reach. Top 4 would be the real achievement. Liverpool, city and Arsenal have too much depth and talent for us to keep up with for the rest of the season. All it takes is a few key injuries that result in some crucial losses and the race is finished
Trophies in this order:
- Champions League
- Premier League
- Europa League
- FA CUP
- Europa Conference League
- EFL Cup
I think because EFL Cup has the same teams as the FA Cup like City, Liverpool etc I would say it is better than Conference, also it is decades old not 2
@@user-bq2tc6dh6t By the exact same logic, that puts the FA cup above the Europa League no?
No because the Europa League is way better than the Conference League@@Subzer0Breeze
Brian bragging about 7 wins in a row when Villa have won 15 games in a row at home in the prem 😂😂😂
15 is twice as good and then some 😏
wat he's not allowed to be happy his team is on good home run? he has to check with you first?
@@sambog2635Brian said Newcastle have a better run than villa with 15 , did you watch the video before commenting
@@abyeadchowdhury2529Just checked. no he didn't, he said 7. Villa have a run of 15 wins.
Newcastle fans getting too cocky with the 1-5. Don't forget we beat them 3-0 at home last season, and we went into the 1-5 with 4 starting players injured against newcastles full strength XI
Here's one for you. Emery has learnt from his time at Arsenal and is now a better manager. Comparing him then to now isn't the same.
perfect example is his success with little Villareal, look at how hard they've struggled to move on without him
Newcastle supporter here, but it's Villa over Newcastle any day this season. Even last season we overachieved, and we're now paying the price by having our key players tired/injured. We'd be lucky to even finish in a Europa league spot. We were lucky to play Villa at the beginning of the season.
Yup, we dropped too many points already in games we should have walked and our away form is horrendous.
Right, I am a Villa fan so it’s nice to hear you talk positively about us, however, Newcastle are still in a very strong place with 29 points on the board! I am certainly not counting out Newcastle finishing in the top 4. My dream would be for both Villa and Newcastle to make top 4!
@@villa_fan8882Would be perfect if 5th gets Champs league spot
As a villa fan I'm loving everyone giving us very little chance of doing better than 4th, hope it stays that way, all the pressure off as the underdog, next 4 fixtures are against Sheffield Utd, Man Utd, Burnley and then Everton before meeting Newcastle, I hope everyone keeps writing us off ;-)
How's that coming 😂
Honestly if spurs had no injuries with bentancur, Maddison and Mickey van de ven, they would be in the title race, they were on fire earlier in the season and they getting good results lately without those key players.
Exactly right
Spurs haven't even played those 3 KEY players together yet. Imagine the passing range and creativity with Bentancur and Maddison together and the Solidarity at the back with Van De Ven's pace. Just praying that Van De Ven's injury isn't a recurring problem because he was a Rolls Royce at the back.
Honestly if United hadn't had injuries they would be ahead of Spurs. Honestly if City has not sold Mahrez and Gundogon and had KDB fit they would be first. Honestly if Liverpool could finish chance against United they would be top.
Same for Newcastle, probably applies WAY better to Newcastle than to Spurs.
@@anandchaudhary1675but they sold Mahrez and Gundogan. It is on them they didn't sign enough depth
If Europa was so easy to win…. Why hasn’t arsenal won it?
Don't worry the dude genuinely believes the FA cup is better than the Europa Leauge, a tournament that has had the likes of Barcelona and many more massive teams in it in recent seasons.
Because they are usually in the Champions League
@@statisticallysoundthey not won that either 😂
@@statisticallysoundwhere you been last 10 years? They just got back in lol, not exactly been a mainstay
@@chrisnewman9801😂😂😂
Emi Martinez is world class and would walk into any of those teams.
As is Pau Torres and Dougie Luiz
Martinez is arsenal b goalkeeper 😂😂, he wasn't good enough to take leno place
Could Arteta do that with Villa?
Thats the question
And it’s no.
This is a such a dumb argument either way as nobody knows how another manager would do in another’s situation.
@@roronoalaw7772I doubt many many managers would have been able to do what Emery has done so far
Could kloop and guardiola do the same? The awnser is no, because unai emery gets the best of mediocre players
Villa are favourites for champions league playing great, good manager, decent squad from a toon fan
Of course the Arsenal fan thinks an FA cup is bigger than a european trophy 💀💀💀
You know Spurs are a big threat when every argument against them was when Antonio Conte was manager.
Emi Martinez is getting into almost every team in the world and he’s not world class?
Dont think the Irish fella realises whats going on at the villa ,the owners are minted and are highly ambitious unai has full control of the football side of things and is building something without any pressure its a great time to be a villa fan UTV
The Irish Guy is a legend
I think he was just making a point to stick up for Emery.
Yeah I like him tbf it's a good panel on the kick off now just think he underestimates the villa
@@darth6466to me a fool.
I've heard this guy before he fucking hates villa
I'm a United fan but the Top 4 is Aston Villa, Arsenal, Man City, Liverpool, not in order
Emery at this moment in time is the 3rd best manager in the league and he's proving it with Villa, I really don't see Villa slowing down and that Brentford win is massive
Villa are only behind City in points total in the last year, on that he’s second best.
Brentford is a bogey team for Villa too. Not beaten them away since the 1950's
The thing is Arsenal fans maybe, just maybe, managers develop and grow in their roles like players do meaning this could be a different approach from Emery from his days at Arsenal
Guy in the white shirt hates Villa 😂 Newcastle favourites and arteta a better manager than Emery. And oh wait FA Cup is bigger than europa league 😂😂😂
Unai emery hasn't had a single title challenge? He literally won the league at PSG lmao
you and me would have won the french league with PSG too, that is a one horse race...
@@oaskdio😂😂
Emery did the treble at PSG and had a higher win % than Poch, also Emery has won 4 Europa League's whereas Poch has only won one title at PSG which Emery also won@@JordiBoy_
Pochettino won the league to😂😂,and no one calls him world class
Newcastle surprised everyone last season but they got champions league Villa could do the same. The fans of some clubs try to talk down the likes of Villa and Newcastle showing their disrespect
The way Arsenal fans view Emery is pathetic.
Emery won 7 trophies at PSG with a 76% win rate. That bloke said he didn't do very well??????
That guy know nuts about emery. What an insult to unai emery 😅
Arsenal fans are real weird about Emery. They say he wasn't very good, but he was better than Arteta in the same time frame. @@jefri4176
Does this arsenal fan not realise that Emery winning the 1 league title and 4 domestic trophies in france is the reason arsenal signed him in the first place. Not to mention the fact the season they sacked emery he got them to 5th, a place higher than Wenger's last season and a European final. Calling arteta a better manager at this stage in artetas career is laughable.
Newcastle fans conveniently forgetting the 3-0 in April? We're pretty neck and neck, we both play open so it goes either way!
Villa are way better than Newcastle. The league shows it
@@catkatzi3320 This season I agree, in a head to head we (Villa) can beat anyone. When we play Newcastle there's been lots of goals lately, is my point.
Is this guy deluded? FA cup better than Europa League? Mental
It’s the only thing they reach for like when a Man U fan mentions league titles with them they cry fa cup or gold prem
Arsenal bloke literally personifies what they are.
Damn, this panel really doesnt know what they’re on about
Villa arent in a top 4 race. They are in a title race. If any 'top 6' club had they're form you'd that without a doubt they are in a title race
They won't be in a title race long term realistically. Fair play to them for where they are at but no one believes they are actually better or equally as good as Arsenal, City and Liverpool.
@@SS-tz3qdtrue but 2nd in form table after 39 games. Anything can happen in football
This ages we'll after villa drew to sheff utd and bottled a lead to the worst man utd side ever
Newcastle just need one high quality attacker in January, on the basis players come back from injury and attacker would make a huge difference, RW or striker
Arsenal have spent over 500 million, won an FA cup and Arteta is now a top manager 😂
What has emery won at the epl? In psg he couldn't even win ligue 1, and he famously bottled a league to barca
Villa's next three League fixtures... Sheff U (h), Man Utd (a), Burnley (h)
And Arsenal play Liverpool next. 3 winnable games. We could be 5 or 6 points clear after those 3.
This guy thinks 1 FA Cup is better than 4 Europa Leagues 1 French League win and 6 cups. What an absolute melt
Did we not have this same discussion last week and the week before ??
As a villa fan I think we may slip of at some point but can't see us dropping any lower than 5th this season though now . Also my god that arsenal fan is unbearable. I like arteta and in the long run he has potential to be on peps level but to say he's better than emery now is a joke . Ain't saying he won't be better but he's won nothing but an FA cup which emery got them to the quarters or semis anyways so he had two games to play 🤷♂️. And bottled the title last season
What was the last time aston villa won a trophy?😂😂 in our worst era we still won trophies, compared to you, you were getting midtable in the championship
@@Alejandro2oh9 arteta won one fa cup which emery got them to the semi final two and they think he's the best manager ever 🤣. He's good as I say and has potential but at this current moment in time he's won nothing . You don't win a trophy for finishing second in the league
@danielhilsdon2043 we have a fa cup, what was the last time your small club won a trophy? Probably before tottenham have, so you can't say we won nothing, because you've never seen you team lift anything 😂😂
@@Alejandro2oh9 we have a European trophy I don't see one of those in arsenals trophy cabinet 🤷♂️
Only 18 months ago arsenal fans were baying for artetas blood.
Newcastle and Spurs injuries are no fluke, their intense style of play stresses the players out more and makes them more injury prone
Hi octane football physically stresses players and causes fatigue - unsustainable in a 38 game competition.
Half Newcastle's injuries have been unrelated though, terrible luck.
Sorry ,i'm a toon fan but i can't see us getting top 4 again this season unless we get some back up in jan and players stay fit. Will just have to settle for both domestic cups lol 😂😂😂
Newcastle Villa is the definition of the game which is whoevers at home wins
FA cup a bigger achievement over europa league.
OUTRAGEOUS TAKE !!!!!
Winners from past 5 years FA cup: Man Cityx2, Liverpool, Leicester City & Arsenal vs Europa League: Sevillax2, Eintracht Frankfurt, Villarreal & Chelsea. I'm going FA cup.
@@IndieGoFigure Yeah but you have to play 20 games in the Europa League with half being very good and underrated sides like Benficas, Bragas, Rangers, Real Sociedads, Frankurts of the world while FA Cup to win it 2 good teams and the fact it is only one game. Like Sheffield United were in the semi final last year.
@@user-bq2tc6dh6t I'm going to concede to your point there, even going down to finalists noticeably weakens the FA cup in the comparison.
I don’t get writing off united but not surprised ( they absolutely bashed united for like the whole stream)
It was needed change for both no debate needed
Newcastle and Spurs have had injuries to key players which has clearly affected them. But Villa have been missing Mings & Buendia all season and up until 2 weeks ago Ramsey & Moreno - that's 4 first team players. Also when asking which of those teams have world class players...Emi Martinez lads!?
I love emi but he ain't world class. And the villa team has way more depth and less injuries than both spurs and Newcastle
@@kin9_derp952How is he not world class when he has won individual awards?
4 isn't as much as 10-14 like Newcastle
@@kin9_derp952how is Martinez not world class? He pretty much won the World Cup for Argentina with his penalty heroics not to mention that brilliant save in extra time.
Nah come on. It’s not the same. Aston Villa have depth. Newcastle and spurs don’t. Villa got a serious manager so they made serious signings..
No bottle job. We are years ahead of schedule. And it’s not as though we are 17+ points ahead.
Our goal was 5th (Europa League). All that’s happening now is just a beautiful unexpected occurrence.
Villa ain't aiming for 5th. Expectations have changed.
@@catkatzi3320 that’s why I said the goal “WAS” 5th. Top 4 is now the goal surely.
Emery himself said that if around match day 32 we are in and around the top, we may change priority and push for a title run.
But there is a lot of time between now and then.
@@ahblezasellars Newcastle and Man Utd screwed the UEFA coefficient, 5th position may not be Champions League because of this.
@@catkatzi3320 dude, you’re right. I completely forgot - because of that, there’s a good chance that 5th spot ain’t happenin’.
@@catkatzi3320 I guess at this point, outside of winning the conference league and gaining an automatic place in the Europa league, we have to be in a title race, whether we want to be or not… because top four is only way to champions league. And we fight for a spot in the league, I don’t see a reason why we wouldn’t be fighting to take it all, especially if the points are this close toward the end of the season.
Finally respect on our name!
No doubt Newcastle and Spurs in particular have been crippled with injuries, but everyone overlooks Villa have had 4 first players out from the start of the season, we now have Kamara out for 3 games. Ramsey and Moreno have just come back after months out. Mings and Buendia wont be back this season. We just cant afford Watkins, Luiz or Martinez to get injured. I dont think we are title contenders realistically, I would love top 4 it would be a massive achievement! But if we are a couple of points off in March to the top, ill start dreaming! Its been brilliant so far this season as a villa fan, god knows we have suffered enough..!
I don't care about excuses about injuries. It's a squad game. You manage the squad by playing the football around your squad.
@@catkatzi3320 Villa haven't made any, nor am I attempting to. I'm simply pointing out the inconsistencies when referring to one clubs injury lists over another's.
Villa have one of the best keepers in the world
There is not one single legitimate argument to suggest arteta is a better manager than unai emery. 1 FA cup is not more impressive than 4 EL wins. Arsenal fans overrate arteta so much. He's a great coach who's really transformed arsenal into a force but until he's won even half of what unai emery has won its a moronic comparison.
its his 4th season as a manager. Lets see what hes won after 15-20 seasons for a fair comparison
World Class: Why does no one mention Martinez?
There is sooooo much energy in the room 😂 imagine a night out jesus lol
The Guy in The White shirt is having a howler😮😅
This foolish guy just said FA cup is better than Europa League 😂
Villa should be favorites for the 4'th spot. They are really strong, from a Newcastle fan.
I think Newcastle will finish between 5-7th place if we pick up form away for the 2'nd part of the season, and with some good cup runs, that would be a fine season, for me, remembering that we are barely halfway through the Original rebuild plan which was set to 5 years.
To suggest the FA Cup is a bigger trophy than the Europa League is WILD 🤯
Sounds like a spur of the moment comment to make Arteta seem better than Emery
The ref was bad but it was a MasterClass from Emery and the game was won before kick off.
Arteta has to calm down on the line because players will follow his reaction and this happened, you needed him on the line but he could not influence the team because he was in the stands, the second mistake was allowing Villa to kick towards the Holte End first half and because of the way they played against Man City they did not have the legs to repeat it so they were always going to go hard for 20 minutes and after they scored they dropped into a defensive shape as there was no way that they could play football against Arsenal on that day. They were willing to let Arsenal have the majority of the ball.
Second half the substitution he made was tactical by stopping the flow of the game because he knew Arsenal would be strong and would press hard so stopping the flow was key.
The other big issue was on Saturday the only time we played out from the back was for the goal and after that Villa kicked long taking out the Arsenal midfield.
The other big issue was when Arsenal did have the chance they did not take them. You need a striker.
I know on the eye Arsenal played well but there was no way Villa were going toe to toe, and finally people have not caught on that Emery changes his tactics for each team but keeps his defensive line strong when they don’t have to ball.
It did not help with AFTV as the players were shown that clip from Ty last season and has been doing the rounds on Villa Twitter
Over a calendar year Villa are 2nd on points, yet they think it’s a this season thing! 😂
Arsenal fans are the reason why I enjoy watching that club's downfall. How the hell is the FA Cup a bigger trophy than Europa League??? 😂😂😂😂
I think it’s between Spurs and Villa. Villa home record of 15 straight wins in insane. They are the only team in the top 5 leagues apart from athletico Madrid who haven’t dropped point at home. I don’t know why so much weight is going into the 5-1 lose to Newcastle when Villa beat Newcastle at home 3-0 before this. And they both draw when on a neutral ground in the USA. I doubt Newcastle will win that fixture. Their away form is literally relegation level. I also have think people are forgetting that there is no European football for anyone in the Europas until march as they all finished top of their groups. I also don’t think Newcastle are ready for UCL football and would have to sell players for ffp next season.
Newcastle aren't ready for ucl? We just got done by var and uefa at psg, else we'd easily of got out of that group. Not to mention our ridiculous injury list. Talking nonsense
@@keitholiver6152nufc are ready next time round.. another window, tonali coming back PLUS we won't get a group like that again.
@@keitholiver6152 Yeah our squad is ravaged by injuries but we've only picked up 5 points away from home and 3 of them were against Sheffield. Villa's form won't drop enough for us to make up ground and once Spurs get Maddison/Van de Ven back in Jan they'll continue soaring past us as well, I think Europa league is what we should aim for as well as a deep cup run
@@keitholiver6152PSG has an xG of 6 in that game, you were ridiculously lucky to be level at that point.
@@JuliusSeizure-tw6mi nonsense, missing chances is psgs fault. If they were missing injuries like Newcastle what do you think would happen
If you can't see Bruno G's world class I'm not convinced you can see fucking anything 😂
Seems obvious but it’ll come down to form. Now City are without Haaland and De Bruyne, the teams in the top 6 are more or less comparable so it’s just about who can sustain good form.
Everyone is forgetting the sample size when comparing emery vs arteta which is crazy. Arteta is in his 4th year, emery was coaching in 2004. Let’s see what arteta is doing in 10 years time before drawing comparisons
The fact is Emery is more proven with more experience, despite what happened at Arsenal.
If intensity is your identity, it ain't long before injuries become your identity.
Guys some people just don't work in certain situations. Emery did not fit Arsenal because of the brand of football Arsenal want to play. In the same way that Jose didn't fit Tottenham though I would say Jose was probably the bigger success at Tottenham having them top at Christmas.
If you actually watched the games you knew it wouldn't work for Emery at Arsenal. There were many games where the team scraped past despite not playing well and when the luck ran out he had to go. Emery is doing much better at Villa in terms of how he is setting up the team than he ever did at Arsenal and it isn't close.
Newcastle fans seem to forget we battered them at Villa park last year 🤣🤷🏾♂️
And we absolutely batted you THIS year what's ya point 😂😂😂😂
@@Leenufc well the point "True Geordie" was trying to make was that Newcastle get to play Villa again and because they beat Villa 5-1 in the first game of the season its a foregone conclusion that they will beat Villa. However, he failed to acknowledge that the game will be at Villa Park where Villa beat Newcastle just 3 months before that match.
Arsenal Fans are absolutely deluded to even think Arteta is comparable to Emery
Let's hope Emery wins the League before Arteta.
The Irish Guy 😂😂😂
make a channel that’s specifically for the uploaded live streams cos i can never find any
I think Howe will fail to get Champs league and eventually get sacked. He's not elite. The way they play can be devastating, but Howe hasn't got much depth to his coaching ability.
Jury is out on Ange, he's looking like a Bielsa type manager to me. One gear, top gear. Not dissimilar to Howe.
Not surprised Newcastle and Spurs are getting injuries.
There's three elite managers in the Prem, Pep, Klopp and Emery. When Arteta has won a few good trophies he can enter the conversation. At the moment he's only a nose ahead of Emery's Villa with a much more expensively assembled squad.
This is probably a very hot take but whatever. Coming from a united fan, I think spurs have all the infrastructure, money and look of a team that could become the Real Madrid of the uk. Their kit looks the part, they’ve got a massive new leviathan of a stadium, and all the potential financial backing whilst making fairly competent signings.
All they need to do is win something I reckon.
Both VIlla and Newcastle have really strong backbones to their 11, Pope, Trip, Botman, Dan Byrne, Schur Guimaraes and Joelinton is a really strong group of lads for any club. VIlla have Martinez, Konsa, McGinn, Douglas Luiz and you could even include Moreno. I think many clubs player for player may be on paper a better outfit than both Newcastle and Villa, but what is absolutely vital is that the backbone of a side is solid. When you look at sides that are underachieving, Chelsea and Man Utd i will use as an example. Man Utd have Maguire, Mctominay, Bruno and Rashford as the foundation to their squad, yes you could include Varane but he is in my opinion too injury prone to be included. Chelsea on the other hand in my opinion don't actually have any structured backbone to their squad. The sheer amount of new players for me shows that the one thing Chelsea haven't got is that regular 6 or 7 names playing week in week out and providing Chelsea with the leadership side of the game.
Newcastle are having as many injuries as most teams competing for top 4 pretty much
On a relatively smaller squad yeah
Didn't Arteta's team fall apart at the end of last season too?
I just cant beleive he said that fa cup was more important than europa. A title that gets you in to the europa league and yet the europa league gets you in the champions league
That's an Arsenal fan for you.
The spurs fan is the only one who is level headed and who makes sense. The one Newcastle fan (not Brian) and the Chelsea fan are the most annoying with zero football knowledge.
one point the 5-1 lose to newcastle was solely due to how horrific mings injury was and from that point villa fell apart. if it weren’t for that horrific injury the game would of been close
why are Newcastle in the convo and Man united aren't 1 point difference plus united have a higher celling what if rashford casemiro bruno their back 4 all stay fit and start to preform what if Hojlund starts to score
Not even Guardiola or Klopp could what Emery is doing at Villa
Oh and that 5-1. Villa lost mings and Buendia the week before the match after Emery built around them since he came in. Villa were disjointed. Shell shocked. A bit clueless. They’d have lost even to Luton that day.
it's not like newcastle and spurs lost there best players also looked disjointed
I had no idea the Irish Guy was a Newcastle fan
This is what happens when you get couple of guys that play fifa, in a room talking about football
Yiddo ya forgetting they slapped you in your back yard before the city and arsenal game 😂😂😂
I always liked Emery and I'm happy he's doing well, but he was horrible for Arsenal. He set the team up to concede 30+ shots against bottom tier clubs. Arsenal were in free fall when they finally sacked him. I hate this "Arsenal should have kept Emery" conversation that people have because it's so obvious they just weren't paying attention at the time
I agree he probably does better at teams like villa, sevilla however I think any manager would struggle to succeed wenger and without him arteta wouldnt be doing as well as he is now.
Free fall? We were 8th when emery got sacked. A year later with arteta we were 15th at one point
I just think, that he has a style of play and if a club disagrees with it and wants him to play a different brand of football, then that causes tensions and bad results. Mid-sized European clubs let him play whatever football he wants, as long as he delivers results and that's why he's been better at your Sevillas, Villareals and Aston Villas, than at Arsenal or PSG - Emery is not perfect and sometimes players just don't suit him and at big clubs that's pretty much unacceptable. Takefusa Kubo is currently doing bits in La Liga, but when on loan to Emery's Villareal he was nailed to the bench, because he just didn't fit what Emery wanted to play
I think IT was not all on Emery back then. Whole club was on a bit of a shambled, especially transfer wise. Since Edu came in IT started clicking.
Arteta finished 8th twice.. Emery could have done that also.
So according to this lot, villa are lucky to be 3rd? Because weve not had injuries when weve actually had 3 big players out.
Mings is out all season, moreno and ramsey have just come back from being out sincd the summer.
The key differences are villa have squad depth, Newcastle and spurs dont at the minute.
3 is alot differnt then 9
Cockneys, Geordies and the Northern Irish Premier league 'fans' talking about Villa "bottling" it 😂😂😂
Man saying arteta is better than Emery, wtf has arteta won?
Put some bloody respect on westham fellas
Very ironic seeing the Arsenal fan saying the Europa league didn’t matter, As if they weren’t devasted when Chelsea ripped them apart in baku.
FUnny hearing an arsenal fan discrediting a European trophy, something they have NEVER won - Tiny, tiny club.
Emery is better than Arteta. He built the team Arteta is thriving with. He’s won many continental trophies. Turned relegation fodder into European quality within 6 months.
Arteta could never
ONLY an English man would say that the fa cup is a bigger trophy than the Europa league