$400 Atari VCS Console Is An Ouya Level Scam & Disaster
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It seems like every few years “Atari” tries to become a thing again, and it’s sad to see the name become more and more of a joke.
I only know atira for the Godzilla games
If it weren’t for the Internet I wouldn’t know their past
They were cool
Sad what happened
None of the people involved are from the original Atari; they literally just bought the name and are now grinding it into the ground.
Yep, Atari shows up, yells about how awesome and cool they still are, then trips, piss their pants and generally just make an ass out of themselves
@SnailAnimeArt Never thought I would see a Atari shill.
Dimitri Warchief lol if it weren’t for the internet they might still be around.
Are we just gunna ignore that there is an "Activate Windows" watermark on what is supposedly a system running off of Linux? 19:04
OOF
good catch
Fortnite doesn't have Linux port, so they are either running in vm or just installed windows on it via thumbstick. It's running at what looks like lowest settings at sub 30fps, which is where the 3200u runs it which seems legit as the Raven ridge in the vcs and 3200u are near identical in specs.
It was said that with the Linux build they wanted to use you could customize the OS. Windows and Steam OS were both examples used.
@@dan_loeb if they had any sense they would have instead installed android on that build for fortnite, at least then they'd be able to run the mobile port of the game at stable frame rates.
Atari Vault is also on Steam, so the "100 built in games" is literally available to anyone.
You can buy one of the handheld things which puts 90-110 games in a single unit. It’s 40 something dollars, more bang for your buck than the new VCS
As a hardcore Atari fan, I’m disappointed at this. It really could’ve been a really good thing, but no. Fuck new Atari’s management.
And literally any modern PC can play them. Steam also has packages for Sega Genesis and 1000s of other retro games that you can play on Integrated graphics. Catch a Steam Sale and for $50 you can literally have hundreds of these games that can play on any PC built within the last 10 years. This Atari console is hilarious
@@pleasuretokill Not even a modern PC. My old 2008 PC back in the day had potentially more hardware prowess then this trash.
I got one of those Atari Flashback 9s, 110 games plus an SD card slot for $40. Personally I think that is all Atari needs, the VCS was a crap idea made by a shell of a once great company.
Retro Reviews that is what I was thinking. I know Atari is trying to sell a console that looks retro but it’s way over priced. A handheld has most of the games on it and it’s so much cheaper. I was looking forward to this console but I can’t Justify it. I doubt it will ever come out.
Atari 1980's: Want to see me crash and burn?
Atari 2020's: Want to see me do it again?
Atari really hasn't been relevant since it crashed tbe video game market, despite its repeated attempts. Its new business model is to release new, terrible, buggy games in beloved, classic series without any fanfare and HOPE people buy it and then don't ask for refunds.
Idk, you're all talking about it like it's *still* the same company, which it most definitely is not.
Atari was never resurrected. Its corpse was just bought and subsequently possessed several times.
thankfully this industry has grown strong enough。。。。。even this Atari collapse again its not anything game changing not like last time
LoL
No, the Jaguar would have succeeded if only...
... I got nothing.
(Ironically, that console was also associated with Llamasoft, Jeff Minter's _Tempest_ remake was one of few titles that were released for it.)
"why did you crowd fund?"
Atari: Lmao we want the money up front
It's a sad state of affairs when even a "big" or at least formerly big company like Atari runs a crowd funding scam. Raise several times their goal in funding and still can't get a decent product out.
I like. It video much. Television don't speak english well.
@@JustaGuy_Gaming wake up, this atari is not the same atari as it was many years ago. this brand was bought at least 2 times in last decade, probably by people with 0 clues about gaming history. whoever those people naming themselves "atari" are, it is also possible that their advertising department (hired company maybe?) fucked them up and sucked all their money.
@@endlessproject9351 you okay m8
@@JustaGuy_Gaming Atari is nothing but a name now. Check StopDropRetro video on how "Atari" under new ownership once tried to sell rebranded Chinese Android phones and tablets on E3...
Pretty telling that their first response to their lead tech leaving is "We didn't need him anyway!" Bit defensive...
He probably took his money and then left to save his reputation. This thing will bomb. No parent is going to buy this over a Ps5 or Xbox Series during Christmas. Atari forgets that today's parents are different than 1980's parents.
It's possible they didn't need him because it was that bad/simple of a product. Or a scam.
I read it as "This report is true, but we don't care."
@@Deadsea_1993 yeah, they're even dumber.
Deadsea1993 Gaming and I think they know that it will bomb, and they already stole all that they can, so they’re releasing it under the guise of a “Console” with a ridiculous price so that they get just that little few bucks from the people dumb enough to buy it.
Odd that when trying to drum up hype for a golden age retro console they went with Atari E.T. levels of quality.
We don't mention the curse that is e.t round here
Finally, ET in HD!
@@Comakino
4k upscaled
@@thomasmacdonough288 r/whoooosh
Dd Kin shut up that makes no sense
You missed another big red flag: Atari opening a crypto-currency CASINO earlier this year
Wait, what!?
Ex-fucking-cuse me, what?
@YongYea Have you heard about this?
@@flumphflumph6021 he just mentioned it on his new video on the subject
@@Brownd55 But suddenly the video got removed? I was about to comment then refreshed the page then video does not exist anymore. Hmmm.
Soulja Boy Consol: finally, a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary.
Lol
Oh shit, I forgot about that! YOUR BOY BACK IN THE GAME Y'ALL. Pre-order your Soulja Boy RETRO console today! (It's an old tiger LCD copy of Double Dragon!)
Lol, power up sound for this thing:
YOOOOUUUU
"Ha ha , you dare approach me!? Let us do battle" que furious button mashing
Love the Kung Fu Panda reference
Wait $400!!! I didn’t even pay that much for a Switch (a modern console).
That’s ridiculous!
Edit: Should mention this is for a console that we have no idea other then classic games will be on.
Xeno Phon well that’s the price we think it might be. But yeah, this console will be $100 more expensive then that.
That’s bull.
@Xeno Phon $300 PS5? That's delusional.
@Xeno Phon if a PS5 is $300 ill sell my left nut for one and spend the leftover money for Playstation Plus cause that ain't happening
Im gonna buy 4 new struts for my truck instead.
@Xeno Phon $300 never goin to happen lmao, the hardware itself is more pricey than switch, that's not how marketing works.
Man, I can't wait to see that crisp 4K HDR *8-bit.*
Atari wasn't even 8 bit, lmao NES was 8 bit Atari was like 4 bit
4K could be used for some really nice CRT simulation, but clearly this "Atari" won't bother with quality.
FWIW, the original VCS CPU was an 8-bit 6507 (stripped-down 6502), but its 128 bytes of RAM and primitive graphics chip seriously limited its capabilities.
I imagine that PONG will play quite well on it!
You mean like 4K Minecraft that was featured at E3?
Bro now I can play E.T in 4k High Definition
It’s just an official version of those “255 games in one” things you could pick up at a flea market back in the day.
Like Action 52?
The good old polly station
@@battlion507 Funny enough, those like 250 in 1 kinda games were what inspired Action 52s creator to make it.
Where I live they're called 9999 in 1, I don't know which part of that thing that warrants the 9999 number
Yong: Why would anyone pay $400 for this system?
Me: Well, thousands of people bought a Stadia, so...they must all have ID10T chips.
Even then Stadia was $130. This is far more. Both are trainwrecks though.
Stadia still promised something. It was a false promise, and a very obvious one at that, but a promise nonetheless.
@@rift1067 Stadia looked cool before release, because of google lies.
@@perropolicia1655 The idea and what it could've been was pretty cool but the execution was well crap Nvidia did it better.
capndayafterday some nostalgic people who want to live in the 80s again when it wasn’t that great of an era to begin with I guess these people where only kids back then and hey the 2000s seem better to me tho it bs since I was a kid who watch cartoons and play video I didn’t really watch new and knew the crap that was happening ack then like the iraq war and thought we were freeing people form and evil government not the truth that was we did it ro over throw a government who wouldn’t be a loyal dog and that we support 70% of the world dictators and that we fund the terrorist around the world when it benefit us like we did with the tailban in the 1980s
On Kickstarter you are required to show a working prototype of your product. That's probably the reason why they went with Indiegogo instead.
@Lassi Kinnunen Put an Atari 2600 emulator on a raspbery pie 4 and here you go
Its a soulja console scheme, they’ll live off the meme sales.
Mr Magoo At least those ship and run a bunch of emulators.
I think not even SouljaBoy had this much cheek. xD
“executives”
Found the problem.
And were gonna have a kickscammer episode for that console soon. Considering everything, it might be crazier that the vega+.
Looking forward to that!
Yep.
Eh, it doesn't have sexbots and Paul Andrews. But it's still a good story nevertheless
I wonder if stopdrop&retro will cover this topic again.
@@hamizannaruto I hope so. Missed his content
"Atari VCS project has always been a team effort"
Atari: "You there. Do all the work for no pay. Then I take credit for it. YAY TEAMWORK!"
Sounds like typical school group project
Classic Atari
I will forever despise GT/Infogrames for all that they've done with the Atari name. I would easily laugh off all of this garbage if it was just under the guise of some random company, but to drag the name of arguably the most pioneering and important video game company of all time through the mud so many times over just for the sake of cashing in on brand recognition is beyond forgiveness, especially speaking as a retro-enthusiast and Game Design history buff. This whole affair is just the cherry atop the shit sunday.
Previous iterations of Atari sucked as well. For example, Fight For Life for the Jaguar is actually a test build they released because they did not want to pay the developer.
Atari’s brainless greedy management once murdered the videogame industry in the US, remember. After already driving out its founder and the developers of their original sw/hw.
YUK FOO Agreed, I’m an old man like you and kids don’t understand how important Atari is and was. I wish Nintendo or Sega, or someone would buy the name and licenses outright so we can get true next gen versions of all those classic games. With that being said I have an Atari Jaguar with a complete library and there are several very good games on that console, not everything is fight for life.
Also Blood, and Monolith in general. Never forget that GT killed Blood.
noop9k The video game crash wasn’t due to bad games like ET and Pac-Man 2600, it was due to a bunch of other companies flooding the market with copycats of the 2600; ET and Pac-Man were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. And it clearly wasn’t murdered when it managed to get back with the rise of the NES.
Yes, it is sad indeed.
The sheer greed of the rich will continue to degrade everything though... I still remember when games didn't have lootbox gambling, microtransaction and 40 different special edition versions of the same game all for money.
It was all downhill from there.
"You can't put a price on nostalgia..."
Atari: "Wanna bet?"
19:04 >"fortnite gameplay"
> *Activate Windows*
OmegaLUL
“All of this just works. It just works.”
I saw the gameplay video of it (probably a PC in the background) and it looked like shit
Max tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
@Sam There is so much "wrong" emanating from this console that it's genuinely baffling.
Why is the guy wearing a backpack while gaming too? Is this to make you think this is at a convention? Even their lies are half arsed!
To be fair, the Ouya wasn't nearly as much of a blatant scam as this is.
The Ouya wasn't a scam. It was just a stupid product based on a dumb premise and run by incompetent idiots.
@@fattiger6957 Oh, the fun we had with "free the games". Congratulations, you've invented the PC.
On one hand these kickblasters are often about dreams, and it's a shitty thing to shit on someone's dream. It's fun to rib on these marks since there's a part of me that completely understands - but no you can't bring back the past with a chunk of dumb plastic.
The Amico claiming that it will have a new Earthworm Jim game as an exclusive was a new era for these empty hype things - they _never_ talk about _games_.
Skrinklewink - A scam implies they planned this. This is just yet another crowdfunding failure due to sheer incompetence as it happens to most electronic crowdfunding projects when they go beyond their original financial goal.
@@BMoser-bv6kn Wasn't even a PC, man. It was like a cheap mobile phone that you can hook up to your TV with a bad controller.
@ no is not. Ouya is real and the idea had logic at the time, but the mobile market just don't killed consoles as they (and a lot of people) were expecting.
“I haven’t been paid invoices going back six months.”
Sounds like an office space scenario
Vietnam-esque flashbacks to the Spectrum Vega+ scandal a couple of years back.
Um, have you never heard of the Jaguar?
@YUK FOO Endy just got distracted by the squirrels that were outside his window. He was wondering why they weren't married yet.
Roy Morris The one the Fact Hunt guy did an hour and a half long special on the tumultuous history of? And even that one clearly could use some updating given what’s happened afterwards?
@YUK FOO I love Office Space; I was just commenting that for Atari, you don't need the creator of Beavis & Butthead to parody a six-month invoice gap. They did it back in the '90s too. On the other hand, I would say that this version of the VCS doesn't have anywhere near enough flair.
Just get an old 2600 shell, throw a Raspberry Pi in there loaded with classic games, boom retro feel and play all the games you want.
Hell they could have just probably bought out ATgames with their Dollar Store 2600 console (no shade, it's a decent console) and saved a hell of a lot of money AND had the console to its backers. This will go in history as the Darwin Award winner for "World's dumbest console maker"
ah yes, the battle of the worst console has begun
The new owners of Atari looked at the Atari Jaguar and said, "This isn't bad enough. We need something worse to cement our place as the biggest joke in video games."
Actually it's a PC
And sega trying to compete XD
Its the byte wars all over again only bite sized :P
Atari once again came around to prove power isn't everything (and this thing is just a shell with im assuming is a rasberry pi mobo)
The console wars have entered an odd phase.
Atari: we need 100k to make this console
*gets 3 million from trusty backers*
Atari: oh cool, now just half ass it so we can keep it all
Sadly, thats not the original Atari, they were perchased several times. Right now its Hasbro, and Hasbro REALLY keeps having a swing and a miss
@Luis Martinez your right, i still held hope that Hasbro would see their tone deaf actions. With the errors and loss of their fans, now leaving them with the ignorant, cancerous mass that blindly follow.
Yeah, kickstarter campaigns have become a hot-bed of scams.
Still not as scummy as "Star Citizen"
@@Deeplycloseted435 is indiegogo?
Google Stadia " was a train wreck " .
Atari VCS console " Hold my beer keg "!.🤯🤢🤮☠💩
"So it's _FRAUD_ then." -Palpatine
Now, for me the big question is "why in the name of god do you need 4K HD rendering for a bunch of Atari games from the 1970s and 1980s?" And I'm sure there's a perfectly sound, sane and not at all bullshit answer for that...
because they are trying to fill a niche that doesnt exist.
Bro, I wanna see every atom of the pixel bro you wouldn't understand bro
@@wolfgangzeintl6425 $380 for "a chrome browser tab that links to Netflix" box
Like they couldnt even be fucked to ape off one of the many netflix apps to give the Illusion of it being proprietary software.
Squares scale really really well!
The funny thing is I am not even sure they could legally use the old Atari games for this. The Atari games are owned by Warner Bros., so Atari (hardware) would have to pay licensing fees to Warner to use them.
I can't imagine sales being all that good on this. Not only does it run like an old PC, playing games that you can pretty much find any where on the internet to run on Roms... It's already had what 3 million dollars in backers? Wouldn't most those backers get a free copy of the system for their support?
Basically it got millions in pre-orders and it some how wants to sell more.
@Lassi Kinnunen That's how many crowdfunding campaigns for products work. When you back it, you aren't just giving them money out of the goodness of your heart, you're actually pre-ordering the product. So you don't exactly "get it for free", but the company actually has to fulfill those preorders.
Now admittedly, that isn't always the case. Sometimes the backer "rewards" are other kinds of merch, a promised discount on the final product, your name in the credits, or just a big ol "thank you" and nothing else. But I doubt they raised 3 million dollars from 11,000 backers by just offering tshirts and gratitude. (It's worth looking into if you're curious though).
They aren't going to be. Atari needs to realize its dead and go away already.
@Ryan Bramble I grew up on Atari games, mostly because I was too poor to get the consoles of the day and got tons of Atari games for cheap from yard sales, thrift stores etc. I wouldn't mind a system if it had some kind of complete library built in of every old Atari game.
Like I said before you can just find roms of a lot of them, but it takes some effort to track them down and you might not know some exist. However if the system came with every old atari game built into it, that would have some real value. Not sure it's a $400 value but still.
@@Scarabswarm 3 000 000 / 11 000 = 272 a person, damn strait they better be gettin the fucken box. Otherwise it is purely a scam
They didn't spend that $3 million on mass production of the console
They spent it on development and paying salaries (or they just kept it and did very little work).
Example: Paying 10 engineers for a year is about $1 million. You don't just get money and magically you have a console you can sell. In 2018 Sony spent $4.4 BILLION on just Research and Development. Obviously Sony does a lot of stuff besides game consoles, but suffice it to say $3 million to develop a console is basically chump change. I'm an engineer and I know 1st hand making anything new that is actually worthwhile takes a lot of people, time and $$$.
So my theory is that they wanted to make a simple scam and get away with it unnoticed, but since it got so much atention they now had to actually develop a product? Imagine being just a simple thief, and you become so successful you have to start actually making the product. That's so funny.
"The Producers"
That's actually kinda funny, but in a sad way for the legacy of the Atari name
Atari made their bed, and how they have to lie in it.
Chinese manufactures: Here's this handheld with 1000 emulated classic games that will be 10$
Atari: yeah we can get you like 10 classic games, 400$ please
Best part is you can sell it to gamestop for the $10. Then buy the cheap handheld and you'd be better off....minus the money lmao
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The quality of Chinese knockoffs can be a crapshoot, but still, I’d rather go with them than these idiots misusing Atari’s name.
Xinnie the Pooh WTF?
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"you can play fortnite on the atari vcs" Please activate windows watermark on console...
It states CLEARLY on the website that you can install Windows on it, i don't know why everyone is " OMG WINDOWS WATER MARK", yes....it has windows...its supposed to....what's your point?
@@Bisclas The point is...Why are you defending this shitty product? Don't tell me you're actually going to buy it?
i nearly fell out my chair when i saw that, even if it supports windows, they dont need to penny pinch that bad
@@JPogi690 i dont think he was defending the product. More like wondering how everyone is acting suprised at the fact
They're even emulating original Atari's awful business sense, how retro!
One Doomed Spacemarine if only their console resembled a much newer Atari retro console, instead of trying to have the 2600 look, which is about the only time the original Atari’s business sense actually worked out for them and dominated the industry. Should have made it look more like a Lynx.
Funny thing is The Lynx was made by Epyx, but they didn't have the manufacturing and distribution ability so they got in bed with Atari to release it.
Imagine spending your hard earned money on an Atari vcs instead of a ps5 or xbox series x thats comes out in a few months.
@@goldster100 PC user! We got PC user over here! See? No one cares
@@goldster100 I always see this argument being made and I recognize that it has some merit and logic to it. But what if the person does not have a PC to begin with? What if they prefer to game with the controllers as it was the way they grew up since the Atari and Nintendo days? A decent PC that can run the games equivalent to an entire generation of consoles would likely have to be upgraded at some point, not counting the price of the PC itself in its initial purchase. And sure, about the controller argument, you can say that you can pretty much buy a gamepad and use it for PC gaming if you dont like keyboard and mouse input. But you would have to buy a separate gamepad for that and any decent gamepad will add to the cost of the entire thing.
@@goldster100 You are not wrong with what you say. But the truth is that its a case of preference. Some people like PC, some like consoles. I am not against any option since I have both but I mostly game on console.
@@goldster100 imagine spending more money than console players
uhm... why does a linux based console need to activate it's windows?
19:08 Fortnite gameplay on the Atari console, but the screen clearly says "Activate Windows" *Thinking Emoji*
Edit: Of course the original video has its comments turned off
And the 'ACTIVATE WINDOWS' is HUGE on the screen, so they're playing at like 800x600 resolution
Again.....It states CLEARLY on the website that you can install Windows on it, i don't know why everyone is " OMG WINDOWS WATER MARK", yes....it has windows...its supposed to....what's your point?
@@Bisclas Fair enough. I didn't realise that Windows was an official option (mostly because I didn't bother to check the website). I was thinking they connected the screen to another device and the whole thing was poorly staged. Don't I look dumb now?
@@Bisclas I think their point is just buy a pc or a laptop?
@@x3seal133 Absolutely , at least right now i see no point in buying the Atari vcs, its just a weak pc, but i might be wrong, let them release the thing, and then we will see if its worth it or not.
Maybe they will have fun new games for it, do you believe that? I don't but lets wait and see.
19:07
What's up with that "Activate Windows" pop up on the VCS? Isn't it supposed to be a Linux machine?
You can dual boot it.
Sandbox mode lets you run Windows.
@@smashdamn @Zoyx
Oh, neat. But that doesnt make it any different than just a ryzen 3 APU mini PC then.... 🤣
@@Zoyx if chances are their custom linux OS is good enough then we won't even need that lol
Everybody's red flags should have immediately gone up at the description "AMD chip and 4 gigs of RAM" for an Atari retro console.
it raised red flag for me the second it was mentioned. i busted out laughing asking myself if i heard that right.
sounds good to me, I'll wait a few months buy it used for 50 bucks, it looks nice and can probably function pretty well as a retro emulator
It can be customer upgraded up to 16 GB.
@@Zoyx more ram won't do anything if the processor is garbage. Which it sounds like it is
Drakkenmensch Silverflare They never mentioned which AMD APU but with them delaying all these years its likely gimped.
Ouya was a total failure in the end, but it was far from a “scam”
This however, IS a complete scam
It was a scam, actually. It falsely advertised which makes it a scam. The games were not what they said, the quality was not what they said
I remember many had hope for it, but once it came out it didnt take long b4 people realized it was a dud. Not enough games, poor controller and weak specs killed it.
@@banner7310 Amount of games wasn't the problem, the quality of them was
I like my Ouya even though I was disappointed in the end.
Funny how the killer app, "The Duck Game" came out 3 years too latest. It was a temp exclusive like Tower fall.
I loved my OUYA as well, and even though there were numerous contributors to its downfall- a bunch of other companies trying to have their own "microconsole" with built in proprietary storefront, most of the compotent homebrewers either sticking with Steam or tinkering with RaspberryPi, the larger companies like Sega and Squeenix missing the point with the affordable price point by launching $25-$35 ports on a system where the target prices were designed to be around $10-$15, the proliferation of Fire Sticks around this time making the XBMC capability less of a tertiary selling point, and later the death knell being when they dropped the quality control just to pad the numbers of available games (providing a glimpse into Steam's future) - in spite of all that trauma, it wasn't a scam.
The Atari VCS, however, is the most redflaggiest of red flag Kickstarter campaigns. Cue a resurrection of "anime fan on prom night" meme.
Oh I think this goes far beyond being an Ouya level scam. Ouya was an absolute failure and those involved showed utter incompetence, but they at least had a product and a storefront. This on the otherhand sounds like a straight up con job on a massive scale.
When it comes to the ouya all I can think about is the crowbcat video xD
Infogrames (disguised as Atari): Its time to hit the console market again!
PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X, Nintendo Switch and NS Lite: We're about to totally end this guy's career.
Even as someone who doesn't care about the power of consoles, I can tell that this new console isn't worth it's price point. Like YongYea said: Why would I want to buy this console when I could buy a PS4 or Switch and get more out of it?
Terrible pricing and timing... its like hmm I wonder what console I'll buy this holiday, PS5 or XSX? Or how about the Atari Retro Console... its a no brainer, you buy one of the actual next gen systems for almost the same price or probably the exact same price as the PS5 Digital Edition.
If you guys really want an Atari Retro Console then just do it yourself with a Raspberry Pi for about $30 with all the cables and a 3d printed case, $50 max if you also throw in a third party Atari controller or a usb adaptor for your old Atari controllers.
Yeah I wondered if he was going to bring up the fad of making Pies with emulators for like 40$ that can play ...basically anything pre-1997 and essentially for free
To be fair, this piece of crap was meant to be released over a year ago, but it never materialised. It probably never will, either.
I would rather buy a retro console(mint condition) as a collector than that crap 🤢
it really brings to mind the days of the Atari Jaguar; charge an absurd price for a console without any games worth owning, and what games it has look like shit.
To be fair, the time it take to buy all the components, install os, 3d printing, possibly modeling. Will cost me more than 400dollars, I personally won't mind though, cause it is fun
I always thought the Ouya was hilariously bad, and it was no surprise that it bombed like hell. But was it actually a scam? I always take scams as intentionally trying to steal money and provide nothing (or almost nothing) in return. I don't know all the details behind the Ouya, but I know it functioned, and they tried to get games on it and even got a decent (very temporary) exclusive in Towerfall.
I feel like it's really important to distinguish between something being overpriced or bombing and an actual scam.
From what i know of the Ouya it didnt sound like a scam, however it bombed because of the teams sheer incompetence in making a game console, like they had no fucking clue what they were doing.
Agreed. It certainly wasn't a scam. It was just a disappointing failure.
He calls it a "scam" because he knows it will net him more clicks.
Agreed. I think we're really watering down the word "scam" and it's gonna be an issue in the future. Just call it what it is, a mess and a failure waiting to happen.
Yea I don’t think it was a scam, they delivered the machine they promised (though it was way overhyped for what it was). It’s just the thing they promised was awful
They could of made a potential successful "niche" console by having it only be games that are close to atari graphics. It would also have a dedicated game engine that you could create games and sell them on a steam like store.
I'm not saying this would be something that people would storm to, but I think it would of made a great throwback to older fans and be a "starting game programmer" console for younger people to create short/simple but completed games.
This also could of been used in classrooms going with the beginning programming situation. I'm not an expert on game programming but I feel a limited simple programming engine for this console could of done great. Sure all of this could be done on a computer and put on steam, but I feel there could of been a community that would be up for this.
It could of been a great educational system to people new to programming, and a throw back to older players.
"Atari was king until they were stupid..." - Scott the Woz
Ah, I see you're a man of culture
based man
Funny how Atari went from being a gaming industry giant to a shady kickscammer
It's not the same company now
How the mighty have fallen
The only modern product worth anything is the Art of Atari book, which is of course about the 2600 games.
The og atari started the north American game market crash anyway, makes perfect sense
All or most of the guys involved back then have passed by now.
These are just some chuckleheads who licensed the name.
if this was an all new console, aimed at competing with the new PS and Xbox then yes.. but to play classic games?
It can work if you play yours cards well. Nintendo classic and SNES mini are a good example
Nevermind. i didnt know you can preorder it now. F
You can play classic Atari games on a $10 calculator. They are the least demanding games in the world. Atari is actually deluded enough to think devs will flock to make games for this $400 paperweight.
It is actually. This is supposed to be both a brand new console and a classic system. It wasn't really meant to compete with the NES classic.
That said it just sounds like a random computer with a front end in a box.
to play atary games at that. Oh boy, better hold onto your hats
They don't need to pay developers for porting to their console because it's PC. 300iq
For $400, might as well get an Oculus Quest.
Damn... when you put it like that, the Quest looks like an extremely cheap godsend compared to this scam.
Oculus Quest is backed by one of the world's richest companies, and has a massive 3rd party game store (Side Quest). Yeah, Quest is safe bet compared with this.
"For the life of me i cant figure out why someone would pay 400 dollars to play Fortnite on an Atari console"
Clearly you havent met Fortnite players who buy skins. Also, did you not see the "Activate Windows" overlay on the Fortnite gameplay, suggesting that the screen shown was not even the Atari but a different PC they streamed to the screen?
@@wolfgangzeintl6425 you could probably get the old 80s consoles and they'd be better than this
@@wolfgangzeintl6425 if you're gonna do that, then at least spend the $20 to get a key from the Internet.
They probably just installed windows to do the demo.
I still don't understand why anyone would spend money on a retro console to begin with, I mean those games were fun then, but the idea that you will drop more than a$100 on shit that could be easily emulated on pc is so nonsensical. Feed a hungry African kid instead with the$400.
nah not even fortnite players would buy that shit because most of them dont even know atari nor care about the brand
I get that people have a lot of nostalgia for the old Atari consoles (myself included), but why on earth would anyone even crowdfund this thing in the first place? $400 for a glorified emulator with no solid specs that might also possibly have some modern games released for it?
meh .. it's their money's and maybe ppl want a physical -object- product rather than digital, despite how for granted we take this nowadays.
Because nostalgia and Atari name is recognizable for past products that were all completely different companies under the same name. The Atari brand name has been tossed around so many times it's silly, this one obviously using the name for some con job
Can they just sell the case they designed
Back in the mid '00s I ran a BabiesRUs and their story reminds me of this. Toys, Kids and BRU were 99% split as Toys failed when they were bought by a holding group. The new owners knew nothing about retail so they borrowed a massive amount of money, hired 3 Execs away from Target, Best Buy and Home Depot and went for it. We all know how that turned out but the entire reasoning for the purchase was the name, at the time polls showed that the Toys R Us name was one of the most recognizable brands in the world right next to Coke and Disney. You know somebody that knows nothing got a shot at the Atari name and did the same thing except they won't make it ten years or probably ten more months.
FWIW, the Ouya wasn't a scam. It was poorly marketed and a bad idea, but it wasn't a scam. It delivered what they said it would. THIS thing is a scam.
To be honest, my calculator could probably run Atari games, so why the overpowered specs?
The games might even be bound to clock cycles, so the cpu might lead to problems...
@@wolfgangzeintl6425 yeah right, forgot that emulators work around that, but still, the hardware is not needed, I think one of the newer pi models could run an emulator
@@Autissima : For most Atari models an _old_ Raspberry Pi could presumably run the games.
For real, you could probly fit ALL the Atari games into one or two gigs.
To put in perspective: Calculator can run Pokemon games from Gameboy Colors
@@zacziggarot You can fit all Atari 2600 & Atari 5200 games combined on a 10MB card.
“You thought Ouya was bad? YOU AIN’T SEEN NUTHIN’ YET!”
Gods gonna put a cancer, in the Atari
Ouya at least tried to make a console and despite its flaws, as well as the Razer finally shutting the store down last year - there are people still using it.
Bbbaby you ain't seen nothing yet
Just be aware that this isn't the same Atari we all knew and loved from the 70s & 80s.
They were loved?
They nearly destroyed the whole damn industry...
They were loved for a time, before their policy of letting practically anyone and everyone release games on their system bit them in the ass with so much garbage flooding the market
@@metalandmagic1424 not them, the overflooded market of crappy games and shitty copycat consoles
@@metalandmagic1424 yes they were very loved
Nah, they just put Murkins off video games for a decade. They said the same things about video games then as they're saying about VR now. They're just scared of technology.
"Ouya" wasn´t a scam, it just didn´t lived up to the hype. Therefor the disaster.
Exactly. Dude didn't make any parallels between the two. Just a click bait title.
Yo I have an original Atari, does that mean I can sell it for $1600
I'd keep it. As long as it's in working order, it'll keep growing in value. Unlike this chunk of plastic.
@@ewald3182 At least $2600.
$3200
Yes you may. lol
no, no sell, play game, keep
I learnt my kickstarter lesson a long time ago. In short, research the people doing it and be prepared to get absolutely nothing in return.
Far to many people get caught up with a nobody selling them some "magic beans" without the beanstalk part.
That's also why Friday The 13th The Game bombed in the end. Kickstarted and the team was completley incompetent. They made stupid game decisions that ruined the game. They did nothing about the toxic behavior and tried to dance around the issues instead of admitting fault. They wanted to create a game mode to cater to toxic players. Tons of bugs and issues. Nowadays, online servers are unstable and it takes ages to find a match. For a week straight, matches have been unplayable. So now the playerbase is dying more than ever. Kickstarter is a joke
@@Deadsea_1993 I feel like Friday the 13th was created specifically to fuck over Dead by Daylight which was a similar game with tons of hype when it started with a Jason Voorhees style character.
Yes 100% after buying Agony and immediatly reselling it because its shit, I learned my lesson. The ONLY game which is worth it I own is Hellblade
I've never bothered with video games on kickstarter - the track record for those seems VERY dubious. Take a look at Drift Stage for another story.
However for board games I've mainly had good experiences, only one of them had problems, the product did get released though.
Only spend on kick starter what you are willing to lose.
Atari: It runs on linux
Also Atari: *plays fortnite on windows*
Got to love that one of their selling points is a capability that most consumer electronics have had built-in for years, and another is playing two games that are already on mobile.
Blizzard: “Do you guys not have phones?”
Atari: “You guys don’t have phones, right? Guys?”
That's an insult to the Ouya. At least the Ouya delivered what it promised.
@Chandster if I could link you to an image of mine, ive been playing 1942 and LoK: Soul Reaver. Its a great time.
@Chandster Towerfall Assension was an OUYA exclusive... it later came to Steam then Consoles.
Actually I've heard that Ouya is a decent and cheap emulator for retro games and so this is far worse. Digital only games version of Ps5 and the Xbox Series Slim will most likely be $400 at release. Atari wants the same amount of money for this ? Good luck with that. This is a different generation where parents aren't as clueless about consoles like they were in the 1980's. Parents won't be fooled into getting this over a new Xbox or Playstation during Christmas.
@@Deadsea_1993 you can honestly consider Ouya as a retro gaming kodi streaming box. Not only did it able to do it first, it was the same price as actual kodi boxes. So even years after owning it, turning it into a streaming all in one box was as cost effective.
Big hold back was its android firmware tho so kodi itself no longer works on it, but any free movie apk its a fine substitute.
Also some made lad cloned Ouyas servers and made all games free, you just gotta drop a .config file into the system memory to redirect the store. And its thst easy to change the store. Drag and literally drop a text document with a new ip adress.
@Chandster I think Oneyplays has some gameplays
I could buy a low-mid tier PC powered by Ryzen or an Intel CPU for that price.
9 months.. no progress sounds like an EA move "Anthem" Keepo
I remember when this new line of Commodore 64 and Amiga computers came out in 2011/2012 or so. Remember that? It too ran on Linux but at least they even worked on a semi own system. And for that they took a version of Linux Mint, changed the user interface with some nice Commodore graphics, visuals and altered the emulator to start fullscreen. These underpowered machines were sold at a insane price point as well... but at least the software seemed to work nicer. Needless to say this project died shortly after and nowdays you cannot even find anything about it anymore anywhere. This Atari console gives me some DejaVu.
Atari: Sony and microsoft possibly will charge $400+ for thier consoles? So should we!
No just no.
Just sell the shells for between $40-$60 as something to put your own hardware into. Like a DIY console/system. That way the customers can kit them out the way they want it. And give the retro titles away for free with each shell design.
Come on, Atari
The Ryzen embedded chips are not cheap and you had to throw in the cost of fabricated, custom box and development. They aren't going to sell enough volume to negotiate the cost down, or take a loss and make it up on software sales. They went dicks out, starting with a simple ARM box, create an ecosystem, and then take a few years to scale up would have been a smarter approach.
$400 GTFO. I'm saving that for PS5
@@HOTD108_ Just eat the PS5 after completing an exclusive title. :D
Jokes aside, hopefully things will improve soon. Best of luck!
I'm a pc gamer, and I'm kinda excited for the ps5.
@@HOTD108_ Idk if you attend a church/mosque/etc. but my church gave out a whole lot of food after Covid hit and it's been really helpful. That's one of the many benefits of attending church.
@@riseoftheflutes1739 I am as well. I'm fed up with how much pc graphics cards cost. The mid tier nvidia 3070 will cost more than a PS5 and fuk knows where AMD is.
@@sheriffaboubakar9720 Food banks. No religion necessary.
heartbreaking to hear this. If atari acted ethically in business & with employees this system probably would've knocked it out of the ballpark for collectors. 😔
@Dahn hence the big IF yeah?
The writing's been on the wall with this console for some time now. Even game review channels have covered this console and how it's most likely a scam. The money they're asking is bizarre. You're better off buying an Nvidia Shield TV for half the price and you'll be able to do what this console is supposed to do and a ton more.
*Over 2 years and 3 million dollars later"
Atari VCS Chief Developer - "We did it guys! We finally developed an empty box!"
All that money, just to pay them to stuff pc components into a shell with the atari name with no original os. That money is gone.
@Lassi Kinnunen lol wut
That money has been gone from the start. Someone cash grabbed, bought a boat and disappeared.
You'd be surprised how easily people are manipulated nowadays?Just look how much money EA and Activision make off of Call of Duty and Madden....
Ah, the ages old story of clueless CEO ruining their own projects. Wonderful.
You can get a refurbished SNES Classic from the Nintendo Store for around $80 right now. I got mine 3 days after ordering, most of the other stuff I've tried buying online recently has taken weeks to be delivered.
18:49 Or you can just download the game on your phone which also has significantly more graphical prowess than the VCS.
Atari: changes hands, people over time, but still retains that shitness and stupidity it's always been known for as a company.
It literally sounds like the old atari team, between acting like the actual original devs arent real and unwillingness to credit them
Atari, Same shit different smell
Imagine crowdfunding an empty box and were later told it was going to be a retro console. I'd be pissed because I just wanted an empty box.
Atari throws their hat in the gaming industry....again
Everyone: How many times we have to teach you this lesson old man!!!
80s Atari: Have you played Atari today?
Modern consoles: Why yes, in fact we have had the Atari compilations out for years now.
Atari: B..But we have ET!!!!
Modern games: Yes yes now go and bury that dead horse Junior. We don't want to stink up the gaming ecosystem now do we?
@@deathstrike also modern games:*stinks up the eco system via microtransactions and abhorrent practices galore*
Doesn't help when new groups of greedy old men keep buying the brand name in order to peddle new bullshit every time.
You have to remember that it's not owned by the same people that started it, and hasn't been for decades.
How do these unscrupulous entities raise such financial support, while wholesome endeavors are often overlooked and cast to the side? 🤷
Crowdfunding scam steps:
1. Overpromise
2. Hype it up
3. Do the cheapest possible job regardless of quality as long as it meets legal definition of what it is.
4. Profit!
5. delay the product and make an excuse for people to give them more money
7. Disable the comments and likes-dislikes ratio if number 6 is too much to handle
This makes stadia look like the second coming of Dreamcast.
But both show the lack of self awareness that some people have
Well,at least the Dreamcast had good games
why would you say something so controversial, but so brave?
All the specs you'll ever need.
CPU: 128-bit Hitachi SH-4 RISC processor (200MHz 360 MIPS)
Graphics: NEC CLX2 processor
RAM: 16MB, 8MB Video RAM, 2MB Sound RAM
Colors: 16.7 million
Polygons: 3 million per second
Game Media: 1.2GB GD-ROM, 12x access speed
Resolution: 640x480 pixels
Sound: Yamaha 64 channel
Operating System: Custom Windows CE with DirectX support*
Modem: 56Kbps (US/JP NTSC), 33.3Kbps (PAL)
Dreamcast was great console stop trying to compare the 2 it's not the same just because you want sound edgy.
I really dont get this console. Too expensive and powerful for people who just want a box for streaming or a box for retro games, and then not good enough for people who want to play modern games. I litersly can't think of anyone besides rich diehard atari fans that will buy this.
The very first thing I saw on this was a render, and no actual info (other than some generic hype language) on reddit. People were asking questions about what it would actually be (retro games, new games, etc) and eventually the answer given was along the lines of “we haven’t determined that yet, we’re looking for feedback from the community to find out what they want.”
Wow, I thought the Atari VCS was just going to be a slightly overpriced niche product. But it seems like it lost all the nicheness it could possibly have and decided to be a Linux computer instead.
And here I was thinking the Atari VCS would come out in 2077.
@@HOTD108_ But then, it wouldn't launch on the 100th anniversary of the Atari 2600
i think it will be ready for launch the year 2600
This literally sounds like the old atari devs bought back atari thinkin they can comeback. Between not crediting or even acting like the actual devs exist for the original games, thinking that ppl like atari, hell i bet they heard .46 terraflops and said "OMG THATS SO MUCH" comparing it to a console that almost killed the gaming industry.
This reeks of bullshit
Seens like PR people with their head so far up their asses, asking for the impossible
Atari was actually one of the few consoles that survived the video game crash, there were many others that didn't, so saying that their console killed the gaming industry is quite wrong. Also most if not all of the devs from back in the days are either dead or retired, so they probably won't try making a comeback (this was close to 40 years ago). Atari itself was sold so often that it's not even entirely clear who owns what now.
@@MyRegardsToTheDodo first, ET cough cough.
Second yes i know, this comment is a joke dedicated to taking the piss on atari, cause atari sucks
@@cleoking6312 Which Atari? Atari or Atari Games? Seriously though this console isn't made by Atari, any more than if someone bought the rights to Michael Jackson's image, then wrote new songs and released them While wearing a Michael Jackson costume claming to be him.
@@trailersic Man its as if this was a Joke at the expense of og atari, and this atari. Wow
I was one of the first to sign up for the eMail list. I was interested because I thought it could be a system that 5800 and 7200 titles would come preinstalled, and maybe future indie titles. Was not thinking of a system that would compete with mainstream consoles. I knew it would be expensive as the company is small and has to sell at a profit. Sony and Microsoft can take huge losses on console hardware, and they usually do. So the price is not surprising for me. For me, the fact they are just making a linux box I could create with a raspberry pi is what is surprising. I'm not gonna pay $400 for that. However I would pay $400 for a system with actual console OS that played old preinstalled classics, new smaller indie titles, and allowed open source development of games on its system. Will be buying one of these Atari's from a bargain bin for under $100 I am sure. They do look nice and could be fun to play around with if the price is low enough.
It's an off brand raspberry pi in a box, then selling it for nearly $400... wow, the preorders for gamestop etc will be taken back day 1
If someone decides to spend $400 on this Atari, that’s on them. Financial Darwinism at its finest
I think that’s the point I think with it being $400 they expect being not to buy it pocketing 3 million
@Jenn Nahh
Things are only valuable if someone wants it, In 10 years, this thing will be forggoten
There are astronomically rare games that are worthless, since noone has interest in them
Jesus Ramirez Romo Like my personality and cooking skills...
@Jenn . Nope. This thing is a PC in a wooden box. Not very valuable at all
Yeah, never back a crowd funding project that has nothing to show beforehand, no matter how awesome the idea is, unless you have money to throw away.
Another thing I will never understand with people. When your employer doesn't pay you, _you quit without a second thought._ I swear, it infuriates me so much when people do this. Like, I get it, you want to show loyalty to your employer, but for goodness' sake _don't let them walk all over you!_ The very _minute_ you don't get your paycheck on time, you walk out right then and there, and you let them know in no uncertain terms that you're not going back to work until you are paid your legally obligated dues. It is 100% illegal for an employer to not pay you, and you have every right to walk out and tell them to shove off until you get your pay.
If my boss was even a single day late on paying me, I would call him up immediately and say "I'm not coming back into work until I have that deposit in my account."
As someone who’s been keeping an eye on this “project” since it’s initial Atari Box reveal, it’s somehow gotten worse and worse.
The atari probably just loads steam to play missile command recharged.
@@wolfgangzeintl6425 Yeah ok, try buying a gaming pc for under $400 and see how that works out for you.
@@corazonjedi8430 $400 would get you something significantly better than the atari.
Thats kind of the point here.
@@corazonjedi8430 $400 would get you a pretty decent PC and miles better than the atari trash
@@pauldoestech Incorrect. A $400 PC wont be able to play Witcher 3, COD Warzone, Borderlands 3, etc out the box like Atari VCS already can.
You won't even get a graphics card with a $400 PC.
@@kyleken8383 Incorrect. A $400 PC wont be able to play Witcher 3, COD Warzone, Borderlands 3, etc out the box like Atari VCS already can.
You won't even get a graphics card with a $400 PC.
Oh boy, Rerez has an epic video about Atari called “You Don’t Know Atari”; with Atari’s history, its old identity has basically been left way behind in the past, with nothing that can really be salvaged for modern day. Nintendo, Sega, etc have been keeping their mascots and identities caught up to date since their origin, but Atari basically has nothing.
Fun fact: All consoles are x86 PCs in a different box, the Switch being the exception with its ARM architecture. The only thing that makes a console different from a PC is the vendor lock-in. Consoles need to phased out as other products of a bygone era have before.
19:03 lol, they haven't activated Windows 🤣
19:00 except is fake, Fortnite is running on windows, look at the "Activate Windows". Is Not linux.
And I would change the title: "$400 Atari VCS Console Is An Ouya Level Disaster, & a Scam"
Ouya wasnt a scam, the project itself was real and a success. But mobile games never replaced consoles (even when a LOT of people and corporations thought it will happen), so it flopped. But the console was there and it was decent.
I think the "& a Scam" is meant to be separate from "An Ouya Level Disaster"
In Linux, if you want to play windows games you need to install a windows emulator. so basically you running windows in Linux.
@@marcovanhoutenprawongso5842 Are you talking about a virtual machine or Wine?
@Lassi Kinnunen Why even bother it's way underpowered?
@@marcovanhoutenprawongso5842 Fortnite is rated "garbage" Wine compatibility on both WineHQ and Lutris right now, so if it is that, that would be a customized private build which, apparently, those guys have neither skills nor money to actually do. VM requires an actual Windows licence, so it's not really that different from just installing Windows, as far as gaming goes.
This reminds me of your kickstarter failure analyses, I loved those because it brought cool and interesting gaming content up that no other outlet was covering
The moment you said "IndieGogo" I knew where this was headed.