Here's Why Seiko Just Made The ULTIMATE Alpinist!
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- Seiko have given the Alpinist a GMT upgrade!
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I’ve always wanted an alpinist. Sadly, it’s always been out of my budget. I was always very drawn to the original, but now my favorite is the European Limited addition “alpinist” gray with blue hands, gorgeous!
Actually bought the re-release for 400 bucks about a year ago. It was the re-release with a bracelet as well, it's pretty nice and I quite like it. So if you keep an eye out, you can probably find these fairly cheap, it's just a matter of finding the right websites. The company I got it from was one of those Japanese importers, I'm trying to remember the name but I can't off the top of my head. So I effectively got the Japanese version for 400 bucks which is pretty nice, and of course it was new not used.
@@draakisback amazing find!! I’ve never seen it for a price even double that👍
@@watchmitch3699 I think it was on sale, normally they go for 600 to 750. The place they got it from was called Sakura watches. If you keep an eye on their selection, they will occasionally give you these nice discounts. Looking right now, they have two alpinist models for 300 bucks, in fact, they have one on a bracelet without the compass bezel for a 396 and then one on a strap with the compass bezel for 413. They are a legit company, in fact the guy sent me a birthday card this year which was kind of funny.
When I first got my alpinist, the rotor was slightly loose. So I sent it back to them and they dealt with it for free obviously because it's under warranty. I know there are also a couple other companies that do something similar to Sakura where they sell you the Japanese versions of these watches. I can only vouch for Sakura since I've only used them, but I'm sure the other ones are legit as well
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The bloody effort and character you and Urban Gentry put into your videos is bar to none.
But you sir were born to be an entertainer and your quirky side bits are golden 😂 please never change! You bring a lot of joy and laughter into the watch community and it really needs that ATM, especially with these prices lol
I got one second hand for a steal. I am really starting to like the date at 4:30. I was unsure at first but I like that it is out of the way. Almost blink and you miss it. The leather strap is still in the box. I wore straps for a while but just went back to the bracelet.
On the inner compass bezel - It's only useful if you're working with a map, we don't need it at all to find north/south BUT if you have a map you can lay everything out in front of you and orient your map to the compass bezel and understand the direction you need to travel in accurately. Combined with dead reckoning you can move in the exact direction you need to - This is why the compass moves so easily, you don't use it for direction while it's on the wrist, you figure out your direction, pick a specific point in the distance, walk to that point and do it all over again, walking point-to-point until you get to your destination
I just use a phone😂
Not really clear how it works?
Not if battery is dead!@@Laughingorcorp
Great review! Everything you say about it is spot on. I bought this watch just a few days ago and I love it as much as anyone could love an inanimate chunk of steel. Despite the negatives (date window colour, hefty price, inner bezel slop) it has that quirky Seiko charm, and boy is it ever handsome. Sadly, I'll probably have to sell my much loved CW C63 GMT to soften the blow to my bank account - I feel like this Seiko has easily displaced it.
I was so close to wanting this… but I don’t like exhibition case backs on the Alpinist… I want that fully closed steel with mountain engraving to come back… or at least be an option.
I’m with ya!
Sigh...this is just one reason why I'd never give up my 017 Alpinist, as much as I like this new one.
Delighted to see Mr Pagani making another appearance! I'd love to see his and Terry's spin off crime-drama about uncovering most shameless 'homages' of all time
The compass isn’t meant to be fixed because if you were to actually use it, the sun and your postition to it changes constantly. So you’re meant to keep calibrating it as you go
Exactly. Needs to be off the wrist to be used efficiently. Hence no real need of a ratchet.
Never said it should be fixed?! The fact I’ll never use a map nor want to find out where north is only makes the red arrow for north offline every day nothing short of annoying my friend! Don’t stick up for it , it needs a ratchet, my Pogues got one and it’s 40 years old!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR Well come on, you gave the impression it's too easy not to function properly: "Is there any point to it?" Not that it was just annoying.
It truly doesn't need to be fixed, but maybe some sort of damping or resistance would be nice.
I had one about 5 years ago. Like you I think the bezel is crap. Yes you want it to be easily moveable for that 1 time you are in country, lost, without a working phone, not on a designated walking trail or within sight of either a transmission line or road, but also have a reliable map. For the other 1000 times when you want to use the bezel to time a swim, or hike or the poached Bass in the oven, it’s completely useless. Plus, at least with mine, because the bezel crown is not screw down, I’m pretty sure it’s what contributed to mine starting to lose chunks of time about 9 months in and stopping altogether after 2 years by letting in moisture or dust. There is no way I’d trust that watch at 50m of water let alone 200m.
You know, I’m clearing out my collection a bit at the moment and had the alpinist with the green dial in my hands humming and ha-ing. Looks like it’s getting flogged for one of the GMT’s at some stage now 🤪. Great show sir as always 🙌🙌👏👏
I agree about the Prospex logo. I have the 2020 Alpinist and love it to pieces, but the 'X' logo really spoils the dial IMO.
The desire to brand everything is something Seiko need to wind in (no pun intended).
This watch is so gorgeous, but that price is just too high for me to justify 😢
BUUUUUT if you really like it ?
Are you talking about Row Lecks ?
Gray market?
@mlzs_ I ended up getting a SARB017, and I'm hunting down the white dial JDM seiko 5 GMT SBSC009. Same amount of money, but I get 2 watches with a bit left over for a strap or two
Just purchased this exact model, it's beautiful and so versatile, strap feels very comfortable
I'd go for the black/blue dial for £300 less, pretty much a perfect 1 watch. Also because the North marker is a triangle and a different colour, it can easily be used as a timing bezel.
I use the red North as a timer all the time.
Im quite happy with my Zelos GMT turbine MOP for half the price and quick adjust on the fly. The only alpinist that intrigues my wallet is the OG green/gold.
Working out the compass on the fly is a constantly changing thing on a watch. You point the hour hand to the sun and then the point mid way between the hour hand and the 12 o’clock is south (in Northern hemisphere). So if you want to keep checking direction you need to redo this (and the rotating compass bezel) every time (as time passes the bezel needs to shift). That’s why it doesn’t ratchet. And why after you rotate and get your bearings it doesn’t matter if it gets knocked and moves again (as it will need shifted next time anyhow as it’s only correct for that one point in time when you checked it). If all that makes sense? I’m this case having it more frictionless makes actually using it for it’s intended purpose easier. So well done to Seiko on this actually.
Hang on!!! This bezel moves if I brush my wrist against my jacket?!?! There HAS to be some resistance otherwise it won’t be accurate??????
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTORit can do yes. My point was more that the compass is used each time on the fly. So you find south between the hour hand and 12, set the bezel to this and immediately check your orientation and then your done. You move on and if the bezel moves it’s fine.
I appreciate some will want it to stay in place a little longer perhaps, if they want/need to check it again within a few minutes.
I guess I see the feature as an emergency back-up for when a real compass isn’t available and you need to know quickly an orientation. So a quick one and done check type thing. I assume this is Seiko thinking too hence the design choice. I sometimes use the technique to check for south/north etc on watches without a compass bezel. It’s a handy hack.
@drdesign6886 I hear ya my friend. I have a slight ratchet or click in my inner rotating bezel of my 40 year old pogue! I personally think it’s lazy and as not many have loaned about it , it has stayed!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTORI guess given either system would work for what I am saying then Seiko could easily add this extra feature to ensure everyone is happy. Perhaps it’s lazy - to be fair the main annoyance for me would be the bezel North not staying at 12 when I’m not using it. A Ratchet would fix this. Actually thinking about it I guess this is what would annoy most people!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR I was lucky and just bought one of these new but opened box on ebay for 800, I will fit a suitable sized gasket to cause a slight friction on the internal bezel crown. This should do the job and be easily removed to be original.
Mate your videos are bloody brilliant ! A breath of fresh air but also you know your watches even if your Wife doesn't 😀
The “click it “ at the end gets me every time!😂😂
Very tempting, but trying not to get sucked in by the limited status 😂. I actually think I prefer the blue version on leather.
The word "limited" for seiko is a joke.
@@SassyPants-00Not when you consider Seiko's size and market reach.
@@barrettwbenton Then I recommend you to buy this "limited" model and next week another limited version.. because seiko releases a dozen limited versions of that model and when you said they stopped, they release a few dozen more limited versions of the limited model.
@alex-98701 Well, I meant the number of watches produced of a given "limited" model, but I certainly get your point. ;-)
Looks gorgeous! I just bought the ‘Seitona’ this week and I love it! 😊
Rolex copied technic from Seiko before !(Balance wheel bridge ,6139 , 1969)😉😉
Exactly;)
No you see, Seiko took that from Rolex in the future (at the time)
Guess it's not a homage... Since it's copying from the inside...
@@couldntthingofone269seiko definitely looked into the future to steal from Rolex frfr
Ok good one mate carry on with the stand up comedy
Another great show MWC! I really like these GMT Alpinists! I agree the date position is a bit odd but otherwise I think this is a total winner!
I love it, it looks fantastic and I’ve always liked it since it was announced but there’s no way I’m spending $2200 on an “ordinary” Seiko 🤔
Yeah, $2,200 Aud is very steep - but Wamada got me a great deal - save $500 off RRP - still a lot for my budget but a deal I couldn't refuse!
I would love this watch. One of my favorites and really like the X on the dial too but it’s too expensive.
I’m a Hamilton guy, lo siento Seiko. For a GMT watch, I’d rather wait and save up for a Tudor Black Bay GMT. On another note, your music is cool! Very well-produced, you don’t abuse compression of the dynamic range. Greetings from Spain.
I really want the blue version. I think pairing it with an uncle Seiko jubilee and it will be truly awesome!
Cool review, this helped me seal the deal on this model and I just received it today. It's bloody marvelous; solid, unassuming but on close inspection you can appreciate the detail and workmanship. Yeah the date complication is a bit redundant and the compass a novelty - but it does add some character to the thing. Very happy with this in my burgeoning collection...
This makes me think that they will also eventually release a "Baby Alpinist" GMT which will solve the pointless inner rotating bezel. Now THAT"S a watch that would be worth waiting for
i am today years old when i finally realize that Mr. Pagani House of Design is a play on Pagani Design. Sometimes brain ain't braining
I’ve watched this 3 or 4 times now, having ordered a M-HKR I couldn’t decide on a Hamilton, so bought a Clive Cussler in order that I could leave my Sea-Dweller at home on an upcoming trip, but after watching this another couple of times I have ordered the Jp green & gold gmt… just waiting for my ship to come in… always enjoy your videos Russ - today’s Casiotron was a prime example… if you’ve got a few minutes, just click it!
awesome Seiko, thx for the show bro :)
Fantastic review, Russ, thank you kindly! You've given me a lot to think about here. Recently I've been contemplating taking my collection down to only 3 watches - a Land, Sea, and Air collection - this could very well be the field watch I've been looking for to take the "Land" slot... Definitely food for thought. Thank you!
I've recently purchased the black dial version of this watch, I'm sending it back! Beautiful watch but I agree about the internal bezel crown action, it irritated me from the start. Also a touch small for my wrist, not the watches fault obviously. I think I've been wearing dive watches for too long. Great video though, thanks
Picking mine up in a couple of weeks at the Bond Street boutique! Can't wait! Great review. Thanks 👍🏽
Would look better without the date and with a touch of red on the GMT hand. Then there’s the bracelet and the price. 🤦🏻♂️
Great video! Thanks for sharing and have a great weekend!
The best looking Alpinist yet. Can't go wrong.
Mister Pagani was right: "GMT, GMT more money for me". That must have been Seiko's thought.
Begeesus it must be exhausting to be you!! Your insight is amazing as always but every time I watch you my heart rate sticks at 125bpm throughout the video! Keep up the great work, your style and insight are distinctive, will be coming back for more!
I don't get the "anxiety" over date windows in gmt watches. The idea is tracking 2 different times. When I was serving overseas, these were useful and still are.
It’s the fact it’s at 4:10?!?!???! I hate a date window anyway my friend.
I love this version 😍 I reviewed it last week and what a good looking version this is ❤
If I could only figure out how to sell watches that are in my watch box, maybe some day I could afford something like that.
Me to!
I really like their 110th anniversary releases. I prefer the Presage though and have ordered their Seiko 5 version (SRPK41), can't wait to see it in person. Not many non-marketing photos of the product yet!
I managed to grab the last Seiko 5 110th version that Gnomon Watches had in stock, a JDM one at that. It's a killer piece for the money. Wish there were more JDM models floating about in the UK though.
If this were a standard edition I would buy one!
Ooh I really like that ! I'm looking for 1 seiko to add to my collection.but that is outside of my budget 😊
P.s I dislike where that state window is placed.
What's the accuracy like? Did you get a chance to put it on a time grapher?
Looks gorgeous. Inner bezel and it's looseness would do my head in
Nearly bought an alpinist a few mo ths back but bougjt a blue manta turtle instead..and love it
Subscribed!!! Love the channel ❤
Over 1,000 is ridiculous. Not for me. Great video, you’re hilarious
If you can’t get the sarb, then get this 👌🏾
I see it's a great piece of work, but I still don't like the big 3 o clock crown, way too big and not good guarded IMHO. And for the date window, yeah, they could strip it away... Even the GMT hand! I know these days it's all rage with GMT, but I really don't need it. Give us back simpler and cheaper movements! Next steps will be put microrotors and tourbillons everywhere! 🥺
This Seiko looks pretty decent but I prefer the Hamilton Expedition you reviewed the other day, in fact I bought one. Yes, the Hamilton has a more utilitarian dial but that's more suitable for a field watch
I would go for the blue or black, n still not happy how small the inner date is. Infact the two things I like about it are the 200m water resistance and the gold rotor. Seeing their new lineup just gives me more reasons to buy another Steeldive or maybe the CASIO 1053.
Like your reviews. Got mine last week and it also comes with a leather strap.
This guy's a Seikopath...
Your Mr Pagani is the spitting image of Benny Hill’s Dickie Davies from World of Sport..🤣😜
Mr Pagani was looking at Instagram the naughty boy 👊😎
I wish they all came on bracelets, I almost never keep anything on their factory straps
How can they make you spend more money though my friend?!?;)
I'm not going to be getting this watch, but the other options you mentioned look good.
Right of the bat I noticed that the fact that the 24hr hand isn’t colour coded and therefore isn’t distinctive enough can affect legibility and just be confusing when you just want to read the time at a glance.
Seiko really enjoys throwing everything at the wall and making use of the things that don’t stick
Absolutely gorgeous dial is phenomenal!
Happy Thanksgiving Mr. Pagani from Canada,
Your so refined and amazing
Like the sloping SS bezel but really dislike the squashed Mercedes hour hand on the Alpinist range
I live in the US and tried to purchased a watch from Francis & Gaye Jeweller's. They stated that they could not ship to the US, curious about the reason.
I’m gonna find out however the export tax maybe a lot!
Looks like a nice "Swatch Irony" model :)
MWC you should turn all your reviews into shorts where you quickly introduce the watch for like 5-10 secs, then show the "What the Wife Said" segment. You're welcome. I take payment in watches.
Then this channel would make zero money. Hardly makes anything as is ?! What fun would that be to me either?!?!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR haha. Oh yeah no not in place of the normal video reviews, but released a few weeks after the video, in addition to.
The X logo looks like the Twitter X logo. I can’t unsee it
Almost perfect BUT what's the point of a crown guard when the crown is basically sitting on top of it vs inside it? It then also pushes out the crown way too much making it look a bit odd.
The blobby blue paint on the hands ruins this watch for me! Entertaining review as always 👍
Great review of an interesting watch. I have a Seiko snm-035 "Land Monster" with a internal compass bezel using a screw-down crown, but no 24hour GMT hand. I always wished and used that compass as a second time scale to track another time zone (imagined N=12/E=3/S=6/W=9) its much more use than a "solar compass" for me. A 24 hour internal bezel would be amazing with a GMT movement, wouldn't it? I mean if it was lockable and didn't move easily by accident. Also I question why one crown is screw down and the other is not.
Wouldve liked the compass function inner bezel be replaced with a 24-hour GMT inner bezel to keep the whole thing cleaner.
Wait, the bezel doesn't rotate?... Even if it doesn't I still like this one! Thanks for the video!
I have a Phobios compressor with a screw down crown to operate the inner bezel. Surely it can't be that hard for Seiko to have the same thing.
I’ve always thought that the alpinist was oysterish. And with the explorer 11 in its cross hairs it’s even better 👍
Ok that's it, I'm certain, this guy's absolutely mad!
And I've been on the fence about getting an Alpinist for years, and I think this is my favorite so far. Maybe this is the one 🤔
Flies wings vibe , thats gota be the best quote from your dear wife since she started to add her humble opinions on the watches you present to her 😂😂😂😂
This alpinist is even better than Rolex explorer 2 with 1/5 the price.
Seitona,love it haha.Don't think I could cough up a bag of sand for a Seiko though
Love it! Great video Russ
Really like the look of this, but considering you can get a CW Sealander GMT with the awesome new bracelet for the same money - I guess I‘d have to go with the CW…
Oh please... the CWs look appalling.
@@kelorednaxela haven’t handled a Sealander in the metal but my Aquitaine is a thing of beauty (which - as the old man says - is of course in the eye of the beholder 😉)
@@Umslopogas666 well... maybe the white sand dials on those models. They look quite good. I think my choice would be the plain Dune.
The round date window completely destroys it.
I think it’s reasonably priced for this storied brand. I almost bought an explorer ii but this is quite cool and a relative bargain imo.
The awkward location of the date blew it.
$1200 ...oucchhhh
I really like the black dial. Would you rather go for the seiko or the baltic aquascaphe gmt?
Ordered the black dial one.. missed delivery today.. arrrrrh.. can't wait to get my hands on it. If your in the uk, beaverbrook have it on for £790 bargain.
I would've loved it if it had a 2 o'clock and 4 o"clock crown (like the previous Alpinist GMT) as opposed to 3 and 4.
Great watch but out of my budget. But its ok. I can still appreciate its beauty.
No lumed double dot to denote 12:00. Why Seiko?
Great content as always!!
Great review but doesn't look a thing like any Rolex, not seeing any similarity to the Explorer II in detail, I mean literally every detail is completely different. The steel bezel is heavily sloped, finished differently, with different fonts. FWIW Seiko came out with a fixed steel 24h bezel years before Rolex did. It's theirs, not Rolex's.
Wish they made one for south paws.
Love my Alpinist (with the cyclops) but even then at £690 it was a bit of a push to pull the trigger on it, but I'm glad I did, it's one of my favourite watches. But for £1,290 for this one ... I'm out
Black dial for me with the red GMT hand. Also, I thoroughly enjoyed this video and I do want to like and follow....but flip-flops...😮
I just wish they had made it larger. It's a bit too small for my 7.5" wrist.
The date window is right in between 4 and 5, making it 4:30, my friend. Not 4:10.
3, 6, 9, 12.... and Im sold.
As a footnote I always imagine you in Speedo’s Russell
IMO The winner is the blue one, great review as always
That date is brutal! 😭
I never understood the attraction of the GMT complication.
Overall, the Alpinist GMTs are a success I think. Not sure why the white dial couldn’t just form a trilogy with the blue and black instead of being LE though.
That date window though - yuk.
GMTs are supposed to have date windows, I’m led to understand, but how about getting rid of it, as well as the GMT hand, and using the 3,6,9,12 layout as the standard Alpinist design? No date, certainly no cyclops, keep the Prospex “X” away, all brushed and on a bracelet. Have the loopy Alpinist text in red on the dial ✊