Thank you for your video , I finally passed my skips test on 3/20 of last month, this 90 was the devil but got it !! I got my cdl and tanker endorsement!!!
This shit is hard.. I turned too early and didn’t kno that I could pull all the way back up. Glad I seen this video. I failed my test last week and take it again Tuesday, I pray I pass. We got this!
you started with a hard right , In the school im in they tell us to turn the wheel one turn to the right and about 2 feet of landing gear to straightened and then a hard left , this alley docking BS is stressing me the F out everyone does it differently and i cant get it no matter which way i try
You have to find out which way works best for you. I did mine in the rain.. ended up not pushing the trailer enough with the wheels straight. Used 5 pull ups to get it perfect (counting the 2 free ones). Just need to practice, practice, practice.
There's a hundred ways to alley dock relax, breathe and steer the trailer where you want it to go, two weeks ago I did three in a row, no pull ups, a different technique the next day couldn't get one, then Friday couldn't get it, then a rain storm came, turned on the wipers,, did better not being able to see,, lol. two things helped me, stop, turn a little, then roll ....a little, stop see whats happening, repeat, slow and steady until you get the idea. Setup is equally important. If you can, come in late, it's easier to fix, try to, hold the fold, if you jacknife, it will be harder and you will need pull ups.
Outstanding visual explanation. I'm in CDL training now and this is the one I have yet to master & catching h-e-l-l. So frustrating. I'm gonna try the fan method and pray I'll nail it. Thank you for sharing.
@@eagle25311 they had us practicing a shit ton of alley dock, only for the trooper on test day to pick blindside parallel- which we hadn’t really practiced 😭 needless to say I flopped that test. Practiced parallel like hell for the following test- but instead another trooper issuing the test wanted an alley dock. Oh well lol 😂, keep working on your alley dock, you’ll get it 🔥💪🏽
Getting ready to take a test, the issue is the "3 foot" section you have to stop in. You aren't allow to walk it off in back and then front to know where to stop, other then just "eyeing" it how do you ensure you don't over shoot or under shoot the spot?
@@sanusiebarrie7225 what I did was I would pull as far forward as I could, that way it would give me room to jack the trailer a little bit to see the axles. Since I was so far up, I had enough room to pivot and maneuver so I wouldn't be two awkward at an angle like that.
@@sanusiebarrie7225 well good luck! Remember, just stay calm and take it easy. You've got 3 tries, and even then you've still got an unlimited amount more! You're allowed 12 pull ups (after the 2 free) throughout the entire skills test (crossing boundary lines count as 2) before you fail, so use them!
@@Ty-tie_FTW I failed it four times. First time I don't count because I just made dumb mistakes. Second time I got way too nervous. Third time I was too close to the ally on the set up. Fourth time I got it in perfect without any extra pull ups. But, I sounded the horn outside of the boundary line and fucking fucked it. Fifth time I passed by the skin of my teeth. I mean, I recommend just going for it, and asking the tester what you did wrong afterwards. Slow down and think before using any pull ups (you get 12 pull ups before you fail after the 2 free) and don't be afraid of using your get outs.
Here is the Problem- when steering in Dirt and gravel parking lots, they grab harder and turn faster than an asphalt lot. Sage lots and most other schools are almost ALWAYS dirt and gravel and the Instructors are always Harping on Oversteering and overcorrecting. So what is happening it that your Muscle and memory have become used to fast reactions during steering and not the slowness of the turn reaction on an asphalt lot, so you end up UNDERSTEERING and Under correcting on asphault.
Quick update, I passed my test January 31 and quickly moved into the yard jockey position for Burlington coat factory warehouse and have been doing so for the past five months making good money and easily doing all maneuvers in a yard goat.
Im in class for CDL training and ALLEY Docking is my next yard skill manuever to nail i seen how you were to steer right when reverse then straight and the steer right again and then reverse to get the trailer in the box is that pretty much how it goes?
The simple answer is yes. You can turn your wheel to either the left or the right to get a different reaction out of the trailer. For example: if you turn the wheel to the Right, the tail of the trailer will go to the Left (and it pushes you farther away from the front corner cone). If you turn the wheel to the Left, the tail of the trailer will go to the Right (and it will start to cut the trailer into the alley dock box). The reason I cut Right and then back to Straight is because I want to push the trailer away from the front cone, BUT I STILL WANT TO MAINTAIN THE TRACTORS 45-DEGREE ANGLE. And when the rear of my trailer is where I want it, I will turn the wheel to the Left and my trailer should go straight into the box. I hope this helps!
When you get to that part he says to chase it , thats were you do left a little center left a little center left and finish with left to bring the cab around the front , watch it again
Use of the English language is required to get your CDL. If you don't speak English you shouldn't get the license. Our road signs are not multilingual nor are the paperwork required for the job.
Thank you for your video , I finally passed my skips test on 3/20 of last month, this 90 was the devil but got it !! I got my cdl and tanker endorsement!!!
Was it hard finding a job? And was the starting pay for a new driver what you expected? Thank you!
This shit is hard.. I turned too early and didn’t kno that I could pull all the way back up. Glad I seen this video. I failed my test last week and take it again Tuesday, I pray I pass. We got this!
Update: I passed… if u think u can’t do it. YOU CAN!
Please any tips will help! I’m working on 90’s now and I can get it half way in the box then screw it up. Also congrats on passing your test!!!!!
Today is Tuesday. How did you do? This is super hard. I am last in my class of 18 to get it. One instructor.
@@shn2345 I take my test in 2 weeks what's steps did Yu use
Sounds like the tester didnt explain it to you...or you were nervous.
you started with a hard right , In the school im in they tell us to turn the wheel one turn to the right and about 2 feet of landing gear to straightened and then a hard left , this alley docking BS is stressing me the F out everyone does it differently and i cant get it no matter which way i try
You have to find out which way works best for you. I did mine in the rain.. ended up not pushing the trailer enough with the wheels straight. Used 5 pull ups to get it perfect (counting the 2 free ones). Just need to practice, practice, practice.
I am there with you. Doing the state test on Wednesday and the 90 is stressing me out.
I just failed my second test I’m starting to second guess myself maybe this isn’t for me
There's a hundred ways to alley dock relax, breathe and steer the trailer where you want it to go, two weeks ago I did three in a row, no pull ups, a different technique the next day couldn't get one, then Friday couldn't get it, then a rain storm came, turned on the wipers,, did better not being able to see,, lol. two things helped me, stop, turn a little, then roll ....a little, stop see whats happening, repeat, slow and steady until you get the idea.
Setup is equally important.
If you can, come in late, it's easier to fix, try to, hold the fold, if you jacknife, it will be harder and you will need pull ups.
@@solarcompaniesarefraud Keep going.Don't give up keep practicing, you will get it! I'm a cdl student as well and it takes practice and more practice!
Outstanding visual explanation. I'm in CDL training now and this is the one I have yet to master & catching h-e-l-l. So frustrating. I'm gonna try the fan method and pray I'll nail it. Thank you for sharing.
This video is so helpful, I showed it to my trainer at JCT because he didnt know what a 90 degree was, but what do I know, Im just a rookie 🤷🏼♂️🥱🤣
I failed my alley dock . I hope I get it next time
You will even though this is a late response comment
Haha I fail my alley dock every day all across the USA
Me too
This is a good video, thank you!
I failed my alley dock portion today I feel like crap, now I have to take 5 more days and wait for them to call me
I’m glad the trooper gave me this for my third maneuver instead of parallel 😅🚛
I'm finding the parallel easy for me but the 90 degree back very difficult
@@eagle25311 they had us practicing a shit ton of alley dock, only for the trooper on test day to pick blindside parallel- which we hadn’t really practiced 😭 needless to say I flopped that test. Practiced parallel like hell for the following test- but instead another trooper issuing the test wanted an alley dock. Oh well lol 😂, keep working on your alley dock, you’ll get it 🔥💪🏽
Parallel is easier than 90degree
👍🙏great job
Ama fast learner,ready to sign up
Getting ready to take a test, the issue is the "3 foot" section you have to stop in. You aren't allow to walk it off in back and then front to know where to stop, other then just "eyeing" it how do you ensure you don't over shoot or under shoot the spot?
Estimate the distance, then pick a spot that you think is that same distance to the rear of your driver's side door, then back to that spot.
How do you get an idea of where the trailer axels are? That the biggest problem I have.
Me 2
@@sanusiebarrie7225 what I did was I would pull as far forward as I could, that way it would give me room to jack the trailer a little bit to see the axles. Since I was so far up, I had enough room to pivot and maneuver so I wouldn't be two awkward at an angle like that.
@@Ryan_Carder thanks I have a test on Friday
@@sanusiebarrie7225 well good luck! Remember, just stay calm and take it easy. You've got 3 tries, and even then you've still got an unlimited amount more!
You're allowed 12 pull ups (after the 2 free) throughout the entire skills test (crossing boundary lines count as 2) before you fail, so use them!
@@Ryan_Carder thanks 🙏
Dude the boundary line was so close on the test they had me on.
Did you get it in easy? Im at sage in idaho and havin a hell of a time with the 4 different sets of instruction from the 4 different instructors
@@Ty-tie_FTW I failed it four times.
First time I don't count because I just made dumb mistakes.
Second time I got way too nervous.
Third time I was too close to the ally on the set up.
Fourth time I got it in perfect without any extra pull ups. But, I sounded the horn outside of the boundary line and fucking fucked it.
Fifth time I passed by the skin of my teeth.
I mean, I recommend just going for it, and asking the tester what you did wrong afterwards. Slow down and think before using any pull ups (you get 12 pull ups before you fail after the 2 free) and don't be afraid of using your get outs.
Duh most states they don't even do 90 degree alley dock test
@@eddyeddy8761 yes they do
@@Ryan_Carder NOT EVERY STATE DOES IN ILLINOIS FOR ESXAMPLE THEY DONT .
Why does all these videos have tandems forward. My school has the tandems back for these maneuvers
Helps tires move smoother and faster around curbs
I can do it at the yard but failed 😞 at the dmv, i think the problem is that i was too far away from the cones when i started my turn
RR keep working hard youngster, you will achieve your goal 💪...I'm struggling with the same problem
Here is the Problem- when steering in Dirt and gravel parking lots, they grab harder and turn faster than an asphalt lot. Sage lots and most other schools are almost ALWAYS dirt and gravel and the Instructors are always Harping on Oversteering and overcorrecting. So what is happening it that your Muscle and memory have become used to fast reactions during steering and not the slowness of the turn reaction on an asphalt lot, so you end up UNDERSTEERING and Under correcting on asphault.
Quick update, I passed my test January 31 and quickly moved into the yard jockey position for Burlington coat factory warehouse and have been doing so for the past five months making good money and easily doing all maneuvers in a yard goat.
Im in class for CDL training and ALLEY Docking is my next yard skill manuever to nail i seen how you were to steer right when reverse then straight and the steer right again and then reverse to get the trailer in the box is that pretty much how it goes?
The simple answer is yes. You can turn your wheel to either the left or the right to get a different reaction out of the trailer. For example: if you turn the wheel to the Right, the tail of the trailer will go to the Left (and it pushes you farther away from the front corner cone). If you turn the wheel to the Left, the tail of the trailer will go to the Right (and it will start to cut the trailer into the alley dock box). The reason I cut Right and then back to Straight is because I want to push the trailer away from the front cone, BUT I STILL WANT TO MAINTAIN THE TRACTORS 45-DEGREE ANGLE. And when the rear of my trailer is where I want it, I will turn the wheel to the Left and my trailer should go straight into the box. I hope this helps!
When you get to that part he says to chase it , thats were you do left a little center left a little center left and finish with left to bring the cab around the front , watch it again
Never seen a training yard be this missed up looks like Mexico roads
When did they change it to 2 get out and looks. We were only allowed 1
I’m currently in school, it’s 2. They’re trying to make it easier to acquire is my guess
Always been 2 only 1 on the straight line, read the fmcsa guidelines don't always trust your instructor.
Lol more confusing than ever
Wow
If a green card is issued, it's a profession I want to do in America. I'm driving European tours.
When you me quickly to the left you turn the at 9 o’clock then turn it to 12 o’clock
Do you move your mirrors throughout this method
no
What is chasing the trailer?
after you steer opposite to set the angle go the other way hard to get back under the trailer. You kinda have to learn how to feel it.
Chasing is to the left and jack it is hard to the right
Hello my friend, I am a truck driver from Tunisia and I want to work in this profession in your country. Help me to come from your company😊
It's a cdl school not a trucking company dude
I can get it in the box with 2 to 4 pull ups.
That was a 45 degree not 90
🙂
English not the instruction manual 🤦🏾♀️😂😂
Use of the English language is required to get your CDL. If you don't speak English you shouldn't get the license. Our road signs are not multilingual nor are the paperwork required for the job.
Not a good specific video
thats a 45 not a 90
Look again.