US prisons are full of hate | Roger Reaves and Lex Fridman
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I thought that prisons were full of love. You learn something new every day.
haha
They are, filled with big black guys loven on lil white boys
Never been full of love.
It's a prison :)
Sheesh 😬
😂😂😂😂😂
@@falten2 🤦♂️🤦♂️
He talks like 16 years was a 3 hour dinner.
11 years for a standard parole violation. The usa is one harsh country.
Probably has to do with what the original charge was, nature of parole violation, etc.
@@edwardrj8289 or the fact that America has more people in cages than every other country.
@@AA-gl1dr if you wanna have a broad, non-nuanced, unspecific and emotional take on it, then sure
Your response itself sounds similar to what you accuse him of tbh. Attack his opinion, while providing nothing to back up your claims. Basically a more thought out way of saying "no your dumb". Overpopulation is easily one if not the most major contributors to the crisis in American prison systems today. Things like privatized prisons, lack of qualified security, lack of rehabilitation and mental health programs are all run offs of having too many people locked up because they cost money. It also creates a large group of individuals who are no longer bondable for work positions that could give them another shot at life. I could go on but arguing why the American prison systems are amongst the worst globally is pointless as the numbers speak loud and clear!
That’s how I did my time too. Books, exercise and guitars
What were you in for mate?
Exercise, books, shooting the shit and making coffee
how'd you get a guitar?
@@knottsscary smuggled it in up his ass
@@williamsmithington3157 Don't be stupid. He swallowed it in double balloons.
This man’s mental toughness is incredible.. to think he got so many years for smuggling “marijuana”, a substance that is now sold legally..
Mostly coke
Yeah white powder weed
Our family has been affected very badly with a son smoking weed. Keep your comments to yourself.
@@BillWoodillustrator wait are you serious
There are wrongfully convicted people in prison too which is even worse AND they let guys like OJ or Cosby out or off the hook after rape and murder.
This guys story was so interesting Lex!! You killed this podcast!! So entertaining!!
Always fun to see someone like Lex cross the tracks for a few seconds.
I can’t imagine why lol
@@timothymiddleton6651 The latter. I have a relative in maximum security prison because of a serious theft he did 20+ years ago at 17.... it's definitely the latter in most cases.
Because everyone locked up is innocent
Low iq, high testosterone..
Naw everyone thinks people in jail have low IQ it varies like every where in life Prisons and the prison system is hard to get out of I did 3 years went in for bringing weed to high school didn’t take it seriously then bad choice after bad choice being stupid I ended up doing 3 and half years I’m not low IQ , by being stupid I mean I am Hispanic from a family that has money so I thought I was a thug but I just listened to too much rap my hobbies before going was smoking weed and being on my computer all day I graduated high school in two years 🏫 and they let me out but I did not take it seriously and it escalated more and more from taking an extra milk to my cell and refusing to come out for lunch someone like me from the suburbs could not grasp why I wasn’t treated like I thought I should once I started realizing life is not a joke and the system in place is there to basically break you down I just decided I had enough and needed to play the game to get out. I knew a kid went in for stealing a bike and ended up doing more inside now he’s doing 15 years
@@viralloop647 wow how inhumane
There’s not enough money in actual rehabilitation- recidivism or repeat “customers” however 💰 👌🏽
Just as with “Prescriptions” and actual cures (Big Farm Uh )
Private prisons are horrifying - every American institution I can think of - Universities, Healthcare, Prisons etc... Appear to have profit as their main incentive. Such a crazy way to organise society if you truly cared about the well being of your citizens
@@eoinbyrne9068 that's about truth of it. Dog eat dog.
Rehabs cost a fortune
@@brobsty1856 and freedom is slavery
Maybe we should start considering putting an end to the drug "war"?
Let’s add all victimless crimes for that matter.
*David Simon has entered the chat
cbd7575 I don't give a shit if people choose to sell drugs or traffick but only a fool thinks the drug game is victimless. Legalization destroys more families though easy addiction, gives the government more power & increases the violence and destroys the quality of drugs sold. Look at mexico. Drugs are practically legal there. You go to get a Xanax and it's 70% you're popping some fentanyl meth mixture to cut profits out from under what the gov & they're still violent and mobbed up as all hell
If I were going to one and someone told me they were full of love, I'd shit my pants.
😂😂😂👍
They’d probably love that too
I think back to what I was involved with back in the 70's.I am so lucky!
I came within a inch of serving life in a Texas prison.
That's about all I can say here on that subject.
Who would've thought a place where people are detained agaisnt their will for large periods of their life is full of hate
I can’t help myself but to watch his videos
Damn man thats deep
Hey Percy!
You really must watch the show Rectify: it is an amazing example of the transition to restarting your life outside institutions and the massive injustice to so many!
It’s about control both for the prison staff and the gangs once you’re in prison you have to join or risk having a target on your back and the staff let it slide because why cause trouble when an equilibrium has been established
I for one am shocked that hate can exist in such a reputable establishment.
You have to choose sides when you enter the American prison system🤷🏼♂️
You don't really get a choice. What color are you? Ok, that is your section of the room/yard.
But his former bosses and organization were good people. Yeah, sure.
This guy must be really mentally strong to still be in good spirits after going through all that.
I envy this guy's dedication and view on life but not his experiences
Interesting I didn't know any of this because I grew up on a stupid farm eating moron seeds.
This is one issue where I don't agree with the conservatives. Harsher penalties don't solve crime problems. Mental health is probably at the core of most crimes. Sure some for the protection of society need to be locked up but they should not be treated worse than we treat stray dogs. We are inhuman if we think that is good.
@Calvin Something true but we don't have treat them like animals. Or worse than animals. Most people get out are worse than when they went in.
Harsher prison conditions along with harsher sentences actually incentivize people to not want to return back to prison, hence not reoffending. Take a look at Germany with their really progressive prison system; prisoners get their own clothes, computer, and bedroom… sounds great right? Well actually there is a 15-20% higher recidivism in Germany compared to USA because it turns out when you give evil people a nice place to go to after committing heinous acts, they’ll just head right back to their nice little bedroom with their computer. I’d rather live in a society with harsher prison sentences and a way lower recidivism rate than having a ‘progressive’ prison system only to have more violent people reoffend. Not the place I want my family to grow up in.
@@911wasindeedafalseflag look at Norway and Sweden? But I was saying we need to solve the crime problem not stop people from re-offending. Also consider how politics uses statistics to lie. We can report a lower offending rate if we keep people in longer, is one statisic I would take a hard look at.
Sometimes it's good for the soul to be treated like a dog for awhile.
I need to learn to be more like Roger. He's very disciplined, self aware, intelligent, and outgoing. No wonder the guy did that long of a bid and is still okay.
What you expect when jail is private business aimed at creating cheap labour
Prisoners should never ever have contact with one another. It will just let the hate and bad behavior fester and they will validate their behavior. If prisons are for correction and reformation, then prisoners should only be allowed contact with normal functioning humans.
I was in prison in uk and they denied me a move i was entitled to so i went on hunger strike which lasted for a wk then they moved me lol
Somebody said Paperwork ? That´s the invocation word for my man Wes Watson 🤣🤣🤣
You gotta hoop that shit.....
@@bc2578 you got to gangsta that shit homie
😭😭😭
I AM ASTONISHEDDD
I would love to quaf beers with Roger, imagine the storys😮
1:07 "It sounds absurd but you're saying like the basic humanity is gone." Or the opposite. The basic humanity is shining through. Our cerebrum handles higher order brain function but when everything is not in order more basic behavior prevails. Notice how you feel and behave when you're tired, stressed, overwhelemed, angry, drunk, anxious, frightened, lonely, insulted, etc.
@@sb_dunk Fair enough but it's somewhat of a semantic debate, meaning what exactly is basic humanity -- our non-higher-order behavior or some minimun higher order behavior. Also note animals aren't cruel for the specific purpose of being cruel, this is uniquely human. You might see hints of cruelity in some apes, chimps primarily, but even then it's not torture like we do.
Yes I know we can be kind unlike other animals, but animals also show kindness, and probably more kindness than cruelty.
The humanity is gone the animal is shining through simple no essays
@@fatmunch6318 I don't follow what you're saying, but you seem to imply animals are purposely cruel, which might happen, but not to the extent of humans.
@@dfinma Cruelty for it's own sake can also be seen in the both great apes and orcas. Chimpanzees will engage in warfare between tribes and will ritualistically cannibalise chimps that they kill in battle after slowly ripping them apart. Orcas are known to play with their food, throwing seals between members of a pod until the seal is dead before eating it or by deliberately lengthening a hunt. Both of these actions can reasonably be understood as forms of torture.
As both of these species are highly intelligent relative to the majority of the animal kingdom it's more accurate to say that cruelty as a trait is limited to highly intelligent creatures rather than only humans.
I guess they reflect what most of all are able to control.
It’s prison , not a day care centre
Yes but there are some " jailmonsters " who DO harm others. To get respect, favoures and stuff. Psycopats. Somebody should Wright a book on these people. Real mosters.
That’s so weird that prisons aren’t nice. Nothing but a bunch of bullies.
Prison has to be like places where most inmate learn something good, when leave have a future autside.
That's I guess Aussie advantage.
Yeah most people in the US don't see jail as rehabilitation, they just want to punish people. Just makes our society worse in the long run
The US prisons have a huge problem with criminality among CO.
Trafficking, rape, and torture aren't a long shot when the staff is applauded for their cruelty. Even the families are not safe when visiting.
They're prisons. Duh.
What?! There’s mean people in prison?! That doesn’t make sense…
This dude is not scared of anything!
Yes, I spent time in Terminal Island, and some of the most disgusting, degrading displays of bad behaviour came not from the inmates but the guards. To think that some of these people hold positions of power and authority over human lives is a terrifying proposition. There is this belief held amongst a lot of the guards that if you treat people like animals that somehow this helps with rehabilitation and preparing them to be released back into society. Sadly, it doesn't have that effect. It causes people to hate and scars them for life. I met Roger in TI. I can say that he is about the nicest gentlest man one could ever meet. He ran that track every day.
Thank you Colin
that good prison he talk about sounds like a danish prison way too good........
Damn, Dana White needs to start wearing a hat! I never noticed that tattoo 😂😂😂
Go listen to a channel called 'stories written by a current prisoner' if you want to hear some gnarly shit. Truthfully interesting and eye opening channel.
The corporations who own the prisons are making an absolute fortune.
fear leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to suffering. Yoda.
So are US Colleges and Universities............ but we pretend that they arent because it goes the "other" way.
The resentment of people who think prisoners have it easy, and must be punished. Just goes to show you how bad things are for regular people.
For someone working 3 jobs to stay above poverty, it must seem like a vacation.
Except they would be completely wrong. Most people never been to prison so they don’t really understand
@@jeffgo5742
My mom and I came from Mexico. We were dirt poor. She didn't speak any English. She didn't go hmmm, maybe it would be easier if I committed crime. No, instead she chose to work hard and get through the tough times.
@@Rufio1975 that’s good and glad to hear that. I’m from America and chose crime first. Took me a while but I work a normal job. Everyone goes through tiff times, just have to keep fighting
@@Rufio1975 I’m willing to bet good money that your mom isn’t worth 30 billion
No Really? You would think the jails would be full of happiness!
Roger loves people so much that he gave them poison and took millions from serial killers. He's a real loving person.
Or he provided access to a commodity that people wanted.
Drugs are only illegal because it enables those in power to increase their power and control.
@@areyoutheregoditsmedave The people running the drug trade are monstrous governments. Are you not aware of the CIA's links to drug running? I'm sure it goes deeper than flooding black neighbourhoods with crack in the 80's, trying to rebuild Afghanistan via Opium fields and Iran Contra.
Nothing nice about prison? You don’t say……
Wow how is this mans mind so strong.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes...
This poor guy has been through what would seem like total emotional devastation. And he has found the key to being happy. He is truly a man of God.
My opinion is that if you end up in prison it should never be a cake walk, harder is better. I believe that should deter you from offending again. Hearing about Australia, it sounds like a country club. Not good in my opinion.
There's too much freedom in American prisons.
Can you give some real examples of that? Or is it off the top of your head.
@@rogerweatherman8349 Watch a documentary on a standard Japanese prison or US Marine Boot Camp. The way convicts in US prisons are treated outside of the hellish environment fostered from allowing the worst of society such free reign is comparably laughable.
Watch Shot Caller
Shot Caller is a pretty accurate portrayal of a West Coast prison.
Bro, you were an international drug trafficker. Millions of US citizens and people around the world got addicted and millions died. Thousands of law enforcement agents risk their lives. Did you want them to give you a big hug? What multiverse is this man living in.
Right on. It’s not that the war on drugs is a good thing, but that this guy knew what he was getting into
@@scienceisall2632 the war on drugs is a joke, but we've lost a lot of good people to it.
Has making something illegal ever stopped it? No. The only reason they make it illegal is because 1. They are lobbied to keep it so, and 2. The government wants their cut.
Wanna know how I know this? Look at alcohol, and cigarettes, kills more people than all the other drugs combined. Yet, still legal. Why? Because the gov gets their cut!
What he was doing shouldn't have been illegal in the first place.
Alcohol, Tobacco, and prescription drugs kill far more people than drugs do. Sure. Keep living in your illusionary world. What do all of these substances have in common? The right to freedom of choice. One is better off abstaining from these substances, I agree. But to be made out as a criminal from their usage? That is simply ludicrous. This idea that we need the government involved in our lives to somehow save us from ourselves is overplayed and overused. End the failed WOD.
@@colinmartin5994 so you tell me. Would you rather have a family member drinking alcohol and smoking cigarettes or have them on crack or heroine? I'll wait...
i pray for every brother and sister suffering for no other reason then holding some gas
It's by design. It is only like that in the usa
celebrity criminal
No life is worth spending that long in prison.
No way
561 to 303. A.C.I. and Gun Clubs finest
Hey, hi, guy thats been to prison a few times. The prison system is the equivalent of putting a bandaid on a bullet wound. Lump all of societies least fortunate people together... no guidance, no help, no rehabilitatory services that address the issue, just bloated budgets and people who learn to hate everything
real good man
Lucky he saw that in prison... people go through that out in real life
Prison is supposed to be a punishment not a daycare center
They have to or they will be jumped. You have to hang up with your own to survive
Oh ya, international prisons are full of loving, peaceful folks. Someone is full of b.s.
Prison is a microcosm of how the world really is.
You mean it's a microcosm of the worst aspects of humanity.
@@ddandymann no that is what the world is like . And in some ways there is even more respect among individuals in there then on the outs. And God moves through the prisons, pulling souls back to life. Prison ain't all bad. And it definitely ain't all good. Just like the real world.
@@joshuaclemency6883 I'm an atheist pal. I consider any argument based in the existence of deity to be inherently flawed.
@@ddandymann if there is or is nor a God we can agree there is good and evil. And alot of good things and alot of evil things go on in prison. Clearly you haven't been.
@@joshuaclemency6883 Have you?
The US prison system is horrific.... Take a look at European prisons (especially in the northern countries), there is no such thing as toxic gang behaviour over here;) of course there are groups that stick together but the mentality and vibes are so much more chilled. They are not on their tippy toes all day in anticipation of a fight/stabbing or whatever. Treat prisoners like animals and they will behave as such, treat prisoners humanely and give them a somewhat "normal" life inside prison and they won't turn batshit crazy. The main purpose of a prison shouldn't be to punish the criminals, the main purpose is to protect society from those criminals. Being locked inside a complex you can't leave is enough of an punishment. Your criminals get very little chance to improve themselves if they have to live the same "street life" (or arguably an even worse version of "street life) inside the prison.....
All they need is ❤️ 😍 💖 ❣️ 💕
You didn’t have to use Dana’s head for the thumbnail Lex
Yet our illustrious US Marshall's couldn't keep JE alive more than 30 days? Okee dokee then!
This world is full of hate. We call them social groups but In reality we only belong to said groups to hate or at least discriminate at least some sub group of people.
These ex cons really want fucking sympathy, I just don't feel bad at all. People are taught from a young age to not break the law, by parents, teachers, etc. Laws are laws no matter how dumb or stupid they are at the time, and if they're really bad well you'll have a revolution over it. He did his time and I hope he enjoys and makes the most out of his remaining years.
California prisons are segregated because of politics. Even Mexicans segregate themselves from their own race (sureños and norteños). All street politics; that’s how California is ran
There's nothing nice about them it should be like going on vacation what a shame
There literally is no Soul in America ,
Lex always looks half asleep and like someone who doesn’t want to do a job
I'd love to sit and do some lines with this cat and hear his stories.
And that hate gets released back into the public on a regular basis.
Fun fact: I created the fist bump back in the 1980's in an Illinois prison because I didn't trust another man grabbing my hand and always felt like it was a vulnerability, in that it could easily be used against you.
I find it difficult to believe you were on what the Marshall called Con Air because California state prisons have complete facilities in Oklahoma all over the country and they routinely I'm talking probably daily have a transport vehicle going from Oklahoma to California it is much more expensive dangerous and much more hassle to go such a short distance there's no way they put you on that you were shipped in a van but you want to sound like you are somebody like you know what's going on but anybody that knows better you can't even read sight the proper names for certain things within that CDC or the names that inmates would use. They put you in isolation for your own safety you are a small man that had no friends from a different country in one of the most racially-charged violent ruthless places you could find in America it was for your safety but that wouldn't sound good and Lex would not know any different hell he's reciting Shawshank Redemption. There's no way old man you walked into the Hispanic TV room nor did you walk into the blacks without the white boys probably killing you disrespecting the others you're a liar and a pathetic one when I got to Oklahoma and got to the floor they told me my parole hearing the person that was there from Washington had already left and would be back in a year. Pardon me what did you say? The floor where are you a fucking Dancehall and there would not be one person for a parole hearing nor would they come from Washington you were in a state facility they would have come from California as a matter of fact they have parole board members that live in the area all of that out-of-state CDC facilities even a federal facility parole board members would not come from Washington they would be local lies again and these are just the ones on pointing out in the first 6 minutes you're a liar a poor excuse of a convict you have no dignity honour or integrity they must have run a train on you because you're a lying little pathetic man
Protection! Roger REAVES. Kiss my ass!
Federal prisoners fly Con Air
Ofcorse its full of hate thats why they are there
That's shocking. I'd have thought they were full of love, tender love.
Wow, you sure have got it all wrong.
Naive
Who got to them? Bill clinton
This guy wouldn’t have survived day one in the marine corps
So the new lil nas X video isn't accurate?
Mostly black and brown
I thought when you put all the best of society in one place there would be peace, love and harmony. All prisoners deserve self care incarceration at tax payer's expense. How many millions of lives has this man contributed to destroying? He is not dissimilar to some politicians.
there's a reason it's called prison. they don't get paid to be nice, don't commit crime and don't get locked up. this is how the problem starts from the inside. as nice as you might be as a prisoner at the end of the day you shouldn't expect a guard to trust you.
Could have fooled me. 😳😳😳 I think they are criminals?
Of course they are, they are it going to be full of love are they, man up people
Prisons in the US are awful? Good. That's the idea. That some euro countries prefer to make prison closer to a hotel is fail. Having said that, the war on drugs was lost a long time ago and drug laws do more harm than the drugs in most cases.
Shortsighted.
@@junehodsdon8037 Which part, making prisons nice and comfy for criminals or the war on drugs being lost a long time ago and a waste of lives and $?
@@junehodsdon8037
Answer the question. You chose to comment. Elaborate.
Theres rules everywhere and rules for a reason it is what it is you want to chill with them on the outs ,cool. but when you're busted you stick with your race that's just what it is it's not gonna change and it doesn't mean they lost their humanity, trust and believe the homeboys that have them miss their family, their ol ladies, their kids , but its easier to ignore undesirables when you look at them as subhuman.
Water is wet.
So?
@@jesterruth1238 Just throwing out an obvious statement. Similar to this video's title.
every race has Hate
Us prisons are racially segregated
So someone thinks prisons are full of love?
Identity politics will be the end of us. It has never done any good, never will.
Wrong, prisons and mass incarceration already are the end of us.
@@AA-gl1dr murderers, rapists, terrorists, embezzlers, paedophiles, drug dealers, thieves, armed-robbers and violent thugs should all be free in society? Yeah right how's that going to work.
@@SuperHuia
See they don't have an answer to that whenever they get asked other than rehab. They don't understand that some people just want to do bad nomatter how many times you tell them its not a nice thing to do.