Assassination of Barry Seal | Roger Reaves and Lex Fridman
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FYI, I often ask basic questions of the format:
"What is a graviton?"
"What is a neural network?"
"Who is Oliver North?"
In one sense I know the answers to these questions, in another I don't, because I believe something new can be discovered every time you attempt to explain things simply.
These questions are for the listener, to get the basics and the context on the table before we discuss details. Also it's nice to get an expert to attempt to simply explain the basics as they understand them. Sometimes beautiful insights can be revealed just in that effort.
Thank you for your podcast man. You really are an idol to many 🙏🏻
"Explain to the audience at home" ~Norm Macdonald.....top 10 funniest things of his.
Bro....this was an amazing get for an interview. Keep em coming.
Keep up the great work man!
And that’s what makes you a good interview.
Thank you.
It’s a great technique that provides a base for listeners who may not know these underpinning facts and also helps to “re-center” your subject as well.
This one Poli Sci professor used repeat himself in his lectures, quite often, saying that the wars we got into was because the CIA always said we should depending on where harvesting of drugs would be profitable. It's no coincidence we wound up in Afghanistan because of heroin.
Most of the opium products on our streets in the past couple decades come from Mexico, while the fentanyl and synthetic drugs come mostly from China. China is using fentanyl to kill our citizens who abuse heroin. This is a very intentional thing which could be stopped easily by the Chines, but they prefer to use this in their total war approach. I don't see us invading Mexico, even though the cartels do impose a serious security risk to the US.
And asia and south america!
Why do you think they called George Bush sr..."Poppy Bush"? It wasn't because he was a grandpa! lol
The illicit drug trade is one of the primary means of funding any kind of anti-establishment activity. It would be negligent of the CIA not to try to control it.
Heroin isn't made in Afghanistan. The poppy is but most of the heroin is made in Turkey and then shipped all over the world. Poppy is also where our morphine supply comes from. So we're there for the morphine not the H 😂
The fact that Barry Seal knew Lee Harvey Oswald (because they were both in the Civil Air Patrol) amazes me.
It has been said Seal flew the shooters out of Dallas.
@@sylvesterstewart868 I had heard that to! I think Tosh Plumlee told me that.
What's surprising about a fed knowing a fed?
Barry seal, jfk, lee harvey Oswald and other vip heavyweights...c'mon
Jet fuel does not melt steel
How bout those 2 kids found stabbed to death on a train track in Arkansas, was in an old episode of Unsolved mysteries
Saw documentary long ago can’t find now. Showed connections of bodies to Clinton’s bushes n cia
@@jonescjify it's called "the boys on the tracks" I think. Also "the Clinton body count" is a good one
A former pro wrestler recently gave an interview alleging to have been there along with “a well known Arkansas politician”
Off topic sort of, but one of Bill's cohorts from the old Arkansas mob/Blue Mountain Mafia gang was a guy named Dan Lasater who gave what to this day, 30 years later is one of the funniest/worst defenses ever to the charge of distribution of coke. These people were and are still, basically the mob with a political 1 and half of the American 2 party system completely cowed.
Was to do with Clinton's brother who was in the drug trade also connected to the peadophile ring that was going on in Arkansas at the same time supplying kids all round the country for politicians and wealthy individuals
This story is staggering ... I'm amazed he's alive to tell it ...
@@shinrapresident7010 why ?
@@shinrapresident7010 I'm well aware of the issues regarding this ... the question is ...whats the solution
@@shinrapresident7010 well firstly...this guy isn't rich ..secondly, in order to understand the what and how of these times, we need to speak and listen to them ...and lastly, all of this could be totally avoided if all drugs were legalised taxed and regulated
@@shinrapresident7010 well if memory serves... alcohol was made illegal and cartels emerged to fill the void ..then when it was made legal again ..they disappeared from that game ..
I know exactly what the cartels have done, I'm not defending them..I'm simply pointing out what creates them ..and the "war on drugs" has been a total failure and a waste of lives and money ... legalising taxing and regulating (the latter being the most important) would eliminate the need for them ...
Gambling is a poor example because its not a totally legal entity...
@@shinrapresident7010 I'm not suggesting all crime would end with legalising etc.. Although I could offer a solution to ending the vast majority of crime, but that's a larger topic..
Many people have done illegal things .. some good people have done illegal things.. This man stated that given a second opportunity, he wouldn't repeat his choices.. even for the amount of money he earned and lost . He comes across as a man who has lead a life worth discussing and seeks redemption..and I feel he deserves to be heard
my man reveals how crack was made and distributed and lex just nods and moves to another question lol
because it is no news
Everyone knows what he is saying and have for along time
It's common knowledge at this point.
i caught that too
Lex does that with almost every question with everyone.
The Colombian Miguel Velez, who was one of the three men in prison for murdering Barry Seal and the only one in prison at the Louisiana State Penitentiary, actually died in the Louisiana State Penitentiary in 2015. Great interview! Good on you for letting this man have his say.
*Brazilian
Miguel AKA.... Combumba who worked for Griselda Blanco was involved in his Murder
Read Terry Reed's book Compromised. He was recruited by Barry and was asked to build weapons in Arkansas clandestinely by Oliver North. Congress had forbidden the sale of arms to Contras. The operation was moved to Mexico and his handler was Felix Rodriguez, a CIA Paramilitary Operations Officer who was involved in the Bay of Pigs operation and he personally executed Che Guevara, and was still working for the agency during this time.
He's still with the cia
I believe Felix was in the CIA group Alpha sixty six...
Mf still alive. 82 years old
He also helped murder DEA Agent Kiki Camanera. 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮. US government at its finest. 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
His comments regarding weapons to the contras is totally true. That airstrip was on build on a friend's land in Costa Rica.
American Made. One of my favorite movies. The cock pit scene and Tom Cruise's facial expressions crack me up every time.
That movie was at least 85% BULLSHIT. Example: Barry Seal wasn't approached by cartel members to smuggle cocaine, it was Roger Reaves who HIRED Barry Seal to haul cocaine.......and this was Barry Seal's very first introduction to smuggling cocaine.
The drug smuggling also involved Bill Clinton, Don Tyson, and the late Madison county Sheriff Ralph Baker.
Don Tyson, from what I understand was involved in importing the cocaine. This is smart from the CIA's standpoint because Don Tyson was allegedly addicted to cocaine. The CIA knew that he wouldn't sabotage the cocaine smuggling because that would mean no cocaine for himself. The CIA always worries about operational sabotage from people who suddenly grow a conscious.
@@skimasker3049 I know of a property where some of the packages where being air dropped into back in the 80s. One of my family members where involved in the conspiracy.
Booger County....lol
they were landing in mena Arkansas as one of the drop off points
Who was the Governer again?
@@blastoise77 William Jefferson Clinton!
@@mattmarkowicz That's how Billy Boy proved his bona fides to the CIA to show he was "president" material. The perfect irony is that former CIA head George Bush was the Vice President at the time and he of course was right in the middle of running the operation through Oliver North. Yep, two freaking American presidents up to their ears in cocaine trafficking and arms dealing. That's "American Democracy" for you - bi-partisan criminality to the max!
Boys on the tracks
@@gbossaboy And the Bush 1 White House was the Franklin Scandal. Clinton had Epstein. Hillary has the Podestas.
My uncle was involved with the drug trade in Turks and Caicos in the 80s when Barry Seal was doing the undercover sting on the Missick and Saunders down there. I visited twice. Fun times.
Tell us more!
@@technicalitems731 am from the turks and caicos I heard about Barry seal
I’m a current Georgia Boy , and I love this man. I know I smoked some of his pot and snorted his powder, and I’m proud to say that. Been sober since 2002
How can you be proud to do drugs and be proud to not do drugs at the same time? You’re just rambling nonsense
Red bud and ether based back in them dayz
@@MrShanester117cause he can let the man live y'all be so quick to just jump on someone for what they say in a comment without knowing the man behind the phone
Roger is a true one of a kind humanbeing... fasinating story an life he's had...not sure if they made a movie bout him but they should 100%....
My uncle mike was in SF in Vietnam, after the war in the late 70’s he and some of his SF buddies were hired to guard the offloading of drugs from ships down in Florida. All of it was a government op using vets as contractors
So was Amina Arkansas
Isn't this the plot of lethal weapon
They also used to stuff in in the corpses of dead soldiers coming back in caskets. Their evil knows no bounds.
@@robertwalker7010 *mena
I'd rather listen to this guy than watch that Movie Tom Cruise did about his friend.
✌
Don't let this guy fool you he is a stone cold killer too....
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
In 1974 (maybe 1975) a friend asked me if I wanted to go to Arkansas and fly in a plane. It turned out that he knew the owner of the Mena Airport at the time. We spent the night in the owners home and had a few drinks. The next day we went to one of the hangers with the owner's son, who was going to pilot our ride. He showed us all of the planes they owned. It was like 20-30, maybe more as this was just one of the hangers. I didn't catch the owners name and am curious if any of the people I met there were involved with Barry Seal.
What to know what’s crazy ? I believe what you’re saying but even worse - I read a few books and watched things that the cia fbi and the president etc were in a huge power struggle behind the scenes and used sooo many people- and then when caught or someone needed to take the fall - they hung a to. Of people out to dry and they were alll either murdered or buried under the jail forever ….
Also, I didn’t realize until recently that the president and fbi Hoover were in a huge fight with cia cause they didn’t all get along and then these people bought the media and anyone who said a word or didn’t repeat the same bull shit - were crushed …..
"sometimes, quitting while you're ahead, is not the same a quitting"
Read *Dark Alliance by Gary Webb*
I love the honesty and sincerity in Lex’s questions.
Yup.. Real pos...
@@goldengateart8847 pos???
Biggest mistake of my life was not because the scumbags I was protecting weren't my friends anyways. I learned a hard lesson don't commit crimes and especially with other people because you can't trust ANYONE!!!!!
U still gettin down sweetie
DEA knew! All of them knew! The fact that Oliver North did not go to prison is disgusting!
George HW Bush was heading up this operation behind the back of Reagan
I'm surprised Lex didn't ask about Bill Clinton.
‘Circumventing funding mechanism’ is a euphemism. Congress passed the Boland Amendment which clearly prohibited US assistance to overthrow the Sandinista government. Reagan basically said, ‘FU Congress. I’m in charge of foreign policy and if you don’t give me the money to help the Contras fight the Sandinistas, I’ll get it somewhere else.’ He then appointed Vice Admiral Poindexter in charge of the operation and Poindexter got Lt. Colonel Oliver North to run it.
CIA claims it never approved drug running because it would have killed the operation if it was ever discovered. Yeah, pretty sure the CIA is always torpedoing any project which might involve illegality or bad publicity if discovered.
Fascinating story this guy has
By the way North and Poindexter, all of them were slinging.- Serious- most of the Contra camps were transport camps. Arms, dope worldwide.
that man is a great interesting storyteller!!!
Seals copilot Phil Marshall hit the third rail when he nosed around the CIA aviation bone yard in Arizona. Chatter has it he found one of the 9/11 jets leading to his assassination along with his beautiful kids and family dog.
This man fully understands corruption at the highest levels of our government.
The CIA needs to be splintered into a thousand pieces. Send them all to rot in Gitmo. If there is a single man or woman remaining at the CIA who is NOT corrupt, which I doubt, send them to be a park ranger at the U.S. Forest Service. If we do not destroy that rogue agency, it will destroy us.
exactly....
Already has destroyed form within. 😮😮😮😮😮😮 Kiki was proof.
@@lorenzo2534 Kiki? From narcos?
@Skywalkerog_ yes the CIA helped torture and kidnap him. Check Out Hector Berellez Documentary Last Narco. Cold Piece of work. Ugly inside scoop of our Government agencies and how they operate. Brutal is an understatement. Definitely check it out if you can.
“CIA invented Crack”
Few minutes later
“I believe our government is good” 😂😂
It would be interesting if Lex would now interview someone who is still in prison for selling 1/100th of the amount of cocaine/crack that this man flew in on even one trip…
Hell yeah dude
This guy did a lot of years in prison.
My man is speaking English and I still don't know wtf he's talking about half the time! Lol. I love this guy
Legz can you put more into one sentenc
There's a good HBO movie called Double Crossed with Dennis Hopper as Barry Seal. This story has always bothered me and it put me on the subject of the CIA. They have been the bane of the world's existence ever since Allen Dulles and his thugs started it, back when it was still the OSS. F this shit!
I love this Dudes personality..we need a series..not a movie..somebody get 50 cent on the line.
What is it with the Fuji water. Subliminal messages
“I believe that our government is good…..” nope, he lost me right there.
I think the good of government outweighs its flaws
MasterPfahn
You do know that technically NAZI Germany ,Stalin’s Soviet and Pol Pot’s Kmer Rouge were all “governments “?
I am not saying that governance is all bad but when the rot becomes obvious you have to demand change.
Check into how democracy works in Switzerland sometime….
Irony is that you have been conditioned to distrust the government.
Republicans have long tried to abolish a lot of the institutions, by running it into the ground and then pointing out how bad it works.
Only institution that majority of Americans believe works is the military. The same military that keep arms manufacturers and companies with mercenaries wealthy.
But then there is also the issue that politicians with lots of funds have traditionally won elections. And they have gotten their money from rich people and lobbyists.
And in return they expect them to make rich people and companies richer.
So if you have distrust in government, it is not because people are incompetent. It is by design and propaganda.
veganvvarrior
The irony is that the vast majority of media supports government so where your “conditioning” theory comes from is a mystery. The military doesn’t make decisions about arms purchases or foreign policy, the bought politicians do.
You are correct about money deciding who gets elected and as such my comment stands.
@@marcusaetius9309 liberal media outlets like cnn and msnbc doesn’t at least talk shit about all the institutions. But problem is right wing media still does and have for decades. That and like I said, it is not completely untrue that many institutions work bad, when republicans tries to run it into the ground so they can either outsource it to private companies or just abolish it all together, because fuck poor people.
But it is not like democrats are not to blame either. Usa have pretty much had a complete void of left wing politicians since the 80’s. And democrats have in large been corporate democrats who often have been passive after republicans made tax cuts and deregulations.
Same goes for many countries. After the 70’s there was a global acceptance amongst politicians and economists that neoliberalism and to some extent unregulated capitalism was the way to go, and this is something that every party that was center left or to the right of that built their policies around.
It has of course not been so great in many areas.
But no doubt there are still many institutions that still provide a lot of value and that actually do a lot of work, that would they be removed it would cost the tax payers more money and it would be worse of for climate, nature, health and so on.
We do see this in Sweden, where the conservatives who are economically to the right, basically republicans light. They have sold of a lot of state owned companies and services, including privatization of education. And there are extremely few benefits, and all of the things that isn’t directly funded by taxes have been directly more expensive. And those things that are funded by taxes are indirectly more expensive, many times because the value of the services like in schools have decreased while they still get the same amount of money.
And no, I didn’t say that the military makes those decisions. But it is in the interest of all politicians to give the perception of the military as trustworthy for multiple reasons.
One is because they want to be able to give them huge portions of the budget and to not have people complain. A lot of those money then goes into civilians pockets.
Same reason why usa started a bunch of wars under bush. Many people think it was oil, but in reality it was to funnel tax money into the pockets of cheneys buddies.
The word snitch is only use by criminals when it comes to CIA DEA or bad cops
I agree
Maybe the CIA IR DEA KILL HIM AND FRAME 3 clowns same when they frame LEE HARVY OSWALD DUH IT CALL PATSY
False
Idk who this Barry guy is but he sounds like a mad lad
Look "American Made" to see the history of Barry Seal
Much of this interview this dude here has said that that movie American made is completely wrong and a terrible take on who berry seal was.
You probably have a more accurate take with a Google lookup, or perhaps reading the book
home run king
@@MathewRenfro yeah but movie gives u great picture what he did and who he was. And i dont mean what his personality was like i just mean who he was in puplic eyes
@@MathewRenfro what's the book?
Did Roger ever work with Arthur Henry Joseph Lussier??? Very important...
It only takes one bad apple to spoil the whole bunch
they need to make a movie about this guy.
"I dont snitch, it's not in me"
Proceeds to state every person, place, and time of illegal crimes committed.
It's the only reason he's alive
Lex is not exactly the court of law. Everyone is dead, in jail or already did their bids. It’s story time
He not snitching. This stories are decades old and most of the people involved are dead.
Its funny these youtube keyboard warriors dont know what snitching is😀 like someone said this just story time and u can tell what ever u like as long as you not willing to testify
Rico?
What a staunch man couldn't tell on any one but the rest of the crew all pointed to Roger
R.I.P Joe Rogan, long live Lex Fridman
That’s a joke
Tie this in with Whitney Webb's work and you see a lot more of the people involved.
Came with Saralyn too
Gov bringing mega tons of drugs for their own citizens: "I think our government is good". ok...
Don Henry and Kevin Ives.
The question is if the tables were turned and it was Roger that got caught, what would he have done facing 3 life sentences? Facing at least one if he didn't snitch, he fled the country. In jail, he couldn't have done that. Bet he would have talked.
One of the guys who killed Barry Seal is “ Cuchilla” or knife. He got away that night. He’s still alive.
Cumbumba who worked for Griselda Blanco was one who was involved in his Murder....
@@simonzito3242 false
Died in prison years ago
George Bush Senior put the hit on Barry Seal I know that for a fact..After the Kennedy assassination Barry Seal was the pilot that flew the three Shooters back to Cuba..That was all set up by George Bush Senior also Bush had oil fields in Cuba he would go over on his own ship called the Barbara with automatic machine guns ammunition hand grenades in return the Cubans would load up a ship with 55 gallon drums of crude oil..There are tons of pictures with Pablo Escobar and Barry Seal together..The cocaine smuggling was flying into Arkansas right near Governor Bill Clinton.. through his connections that kept Barry Seal bringing in the cocaine guns money laundering..Then you have another cover up by Bill Clinton The Boys on the track..The two teenagers were stabbed shot with a shotgun and tied to the railroad tracks and the police said it was suicide they were probably high on marijuana..RIGHT..🤮
This guy is as real as it gets
He’s a whining rat that couldn’t do the time after committing the crime
read william blum, peter dale scott and christopher bollyns books. this is tame compared to the deeper story.
No shit!
Read Christopher Bolyn’s book about cracking 9.11 if you want your mind blown.
@@rambojohnj.6117 yes i have. thanks for dropping that in comment. thats a profound game changer.
@@SidewaysBurnouts
Read “behold a pale horse” by Bill Cooper.
You’ll thank me😉
Barry Seal pushed the envelope and paid for it. He should have quit when he was ahead.
Blatant story stringing
Wow😂😂
How do these ppl get their pardons?
So much charisma
He is doing a whole lot of telling now.
WIth The knowledge and facts about this case who has been arrested? None, too much cash money involved in government politics. Corruption at the highest level.
Oh
Everything is rigged. Everyone is a pawn. I think to myself..........what a wonderful world
Horrendous consequences because of a few bad decisions.
The Bible tells us to pray for our leaders.
If you lose your character, you lose everything.
Is that a kind of betrayal ,ya think
4:12 well that would sure get the ladies high😂😂😂
Anyone else sense lex getting uncomfortable when he starts to staked about curtain things….government
learn how to spell
@@adamdemirs3466 wat do u mean
He believes our government is good????? Boy this guy NAIVE
Or trying to not die. He already claimed in his book that he was paying off the Clintons
Anytime someone touches on touchy subject in which they are/were involved in or have deep knowledge of, but do not have control over, it is expected that they will backtrack and hide information, or bring the information in a different, often positive light to protect themselves.
Like Alex Jones, he's really crazy, he's a train with no breaks, but he ALWAYS deflects on certain subjects because he does not want to become the next Julian Assange or Edward Snowden, these "conspiracy theorists" are allowed to keep speaking because they're not disclosing all of the information they know, if they do, those with power will either lawfully or unlawfully prosecute them like they do with spies and defectors. This is no joke, governments will knock on your door if you, for instance, make public classified operations.
Read the book " Barry and the Boys " , gives a great insight into his life and dealings with the CIA
Does anybody think , their is a good ole boy system bringing Heroin from Afghanistan, if you do you’re higher than than a light house mouse. The only way Heroin makes it to America is by the American Pipeline.
Who do you think wanted Barry dead more known Drug Dealers or the good guys doing dirt 👀👀👀
This young man ought to do his Homework
From what I was told Trans World Airlines was a big CIA front and was heavily involved in the trade.
Bruh... you can’t tell these stories and say the Government is good 😂😂 it takes more than a few bad apples to pull these type of operations off. More importantly the people at the top of the chain know exactly what’s going on.
So much to the Mena Arkansas story this guy does not even know half of it
Trust gubmint and any acronym gubmint supports!?!? Ok. Fuck that! I love y'all
Just a loose end for POPPY and Clinton.
Following for the algorithm
That’s why they put him on house arrest they knew he would be assassinated. He was a loose end after a while…
Chevys reegull hahahaha chivas regal ffs lmao
This is the story of the TV series SNOWFALL
Dont think 🤔 it is u know it in ya gut i was a child thru it so i know it it all adds up
Was not a secret to the military flying arms into iran
Roger Reaves needs a movie deal
Is that Wallie???
Roger,some of us just don't talk.
Was Barry’s hitman Ernesto ?
Shaun Attwoods books on this. All murican presidents who were involved are highlighted.
Shaun Attwood is an absolute clown. The Jamie Morgan Kane saga was hilarious.
you got me clickin lex
For all of u who have learning disabilities or are just low IQ you can do anything u put your mind to. Just look at lex and how well he has done with his mental inadequacies.
what about people who are overwhelmingly arrogant and dislikeable like yourself? how do you manage to get through life being miserable and full of hate all the time?
American doing what we gotta do to win since day one lol
Hard crimes..
Cocaine comes from the plant as cocaine base
his attitude to talking is similar to a old tme marijuana smuggler J.D. Reed.
' when asked why he never gave anyone up for a lighter sentance Reed replied "i never got that far with them, talking just wasnt an option, I cant do it" he did his time kept his mouth shut but never once held it against those who didn't' Smokescreen , Robert Sabbag
The only part of this that's true is Seal dealt drugs, got caught and was killed by the cartel
More brilliant US government machinations.. America is amazing.
There are no such thing as renegade agents. ......the powers to be see and allow.
Respect from the Cartel? Are you high? So this is something to underscore, the character gained by showing merciless, cold blooded killers that you have character? Please…
I don’t think he was assassinated.
Lex dude has communication skills for a pictorial.