Combat Apache & Little Bird Pilots React to Helicopter Movies
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As a kid I absolutely dreamed about Red Dawn happening. My brothers and I would make big plans for what would do when it all went down.
Same with me and all the guys in my neighborhood!
@@rockz6931 Same here then seeing the Ukraine war and being like wow was I way off about the big bad russian war
@@maj.romuloortiz7832red dawn will be China, if anybody.
Edit- my cousins and I did the same thing. Foxholes, tunnels, the whole deal. Lol they didn't stand a chance invading southwest Virginia
You missed "Airwolf" and it'S ability to "silent hover" and "turn off all of the electronics".
Blue Thunder!!! lol
disengage main rotor
Not to mention go faster than the speed of sound, which unless things have changed since I last bothered with this, is pretty much impossible.
That's all real now. So we can't talk about it.
16:55 "I think that *is* a T-72."
That's why I still 100% love this movie. It was made in 1984. T-72s didn't _exist_ in the western world, and even if they did they certainly weren't available for movie sets. That's actually an M48 Patton tank, visually modified to resemble a (then new) T-72. It was supposedly so effective that after the tanks were spotted being trucked through town, the producers got a visit from some CIA agents who wanted to know how they'd got their hands on Soviet tanks.
EDIT: And yes, the "Hind" was also a vismod, played by the French Puma helicopter.
I was coming here to make this comment. They were dressed up Pumas and the same for the T-72 as you said. I would also add the ZSU-23-4 and the BRDM-2. I’ve always found it fascinating that they did such a good job that the CIA actually thought they had Soviet equipment.
@@kickZtailout I served with the US Army's OPFOR at Fort Irwin back in the mid '90s, and the vismods we used to "represent" Soviet equipment were laughable in comparison to what Milius & Co. achieved a decade prior. 😄🤦♂
@@Harv72b Hail Krasnovia
IIRC, the HInd was based on the Puma airframe.
@@Harv72bMost OPFOR stuff might as well just be blue team red team for its realism. A good movie director is going to try for a bit more realism
Seriously needs to be another episode with Airwolf and Blue Thunder Included in it.
Especially Airwolf season one when they were doing some real flying with real helicopters
If Red Dawn happened where I grew up our battle cry would’ve been “YELLOWJACKETS!!!!!!!!”
I was a Marine Corps flightline mechanic CDQAR on Cobra and Huey but it’s been a couple decades. Its pretty funny seeing these guys call the bs
The fact that the Apache community hates Firebirds is a testimony to almost every military movie ever made vs those that served in those communities. This Bubblehead is looking at you Crimson Tide
hehe my dad was 160th 3rd battalion and retired as a CW5
Loved this one, "Butch hovers like that" was the best line ever. So hilarious. My brother served in the Night Stalker's. I've been to the Ft Campbell flight line for his Change of Responsibility ceremony and his son is currently serving with them at Hunter in the Blackhawks. Got some pictures in the Chinook with the mini-gun and the '60. My time in service wasn't so cool as my brothers. Also love me some Original Red Dawn. Epic life influencing movie for any child of the 80's and 90's.
Pretty sure I know your brother, and I happened to meet his son randomly at an air show this spring. Small world!
@@bradleyboss nice to meet you. Not many in that unit with our name.
Red Dawn: The scene with the locator chip was when Daryl went into town and got caught. The Russians deliberately dropped the food, knowing that the Wolverines were in the area. All they had to do was send in the choppers to find them
16:53 They're talking about how realistic it would be for high school kids to take out a T-72, but with the current state of things for Russia in Ukraine, I believe high school kids perhaps COULD take out a T-72. 🤣
Got a good enough weapon anyone can hell.
Those Islamic extremists did okay enough against our forces overseas. Improvise, adapt, overcome.
@@maj.romuloortiz7832 Pound of junkyard thermite in a tube sock down the barrel and it'll be fun watching the next time the enemy tries to fire that main gun. 🤣
Red Dawn rules. Tomorrow when the war began is an Australian movie similar in concept and should be checked out by all fans of Red Dawn.
Oddly enough, just last night I said to my wife that all Congress Critters should be forced to watch Red Dawn.
First one, not idiotic remake
19:00 My generation wanted that too :)
The scene of the father screaming AVENGE ME!! that still gives me goosebumps.
This is still my dream. I want this to happen so very bad. I am so tired of not having any fun. Bring it on China.
It already happened, but we were the invaders hunting another country's citizens while they hid in the mountains in Afghanistan.
@@jk802 That is a lie.
@jk802 you mean after they kidnapped 4 flights on our soil and killed 3k Americans?
The fact there wasnt a Willam Defoe clip from Boondock Saints saying Symbolism when he said symbology is criminal...
I kept waiting for it, and I was so disappointed! Glad I'm not the only one
The “HIND” in Red Dawn was actually a Puma mocked to resemble the HIND.
Exactly right. AS332's with bolt on wings. Fastest giveaway is the side by side cockpit, whereas the Hind actually has a cockpit setup like the Cobra/Apache, with pilot/gunner in trail, and the chin mounted moveable cannon. They did the same with the "Hind" in Rambo movies...
@@HillsPatrolTD42 The first hinds, the Hind A models were exactly like that with side by side cockpits :)
@@Theduckwebcomics that's not entirely correct. The Hind-A had a "greenhouse" style cockpit with the big windows all around, yes, BUT, the pilot still sat at the rear (interestingly offset to the portside) while the gunner sat up front in the nose. It was a hybrid side-by-side/tandem setup that was subsequently scrapped for the pure tandem layout widely known.
Awe man missed the A-team helicopter scene to talk about with the helicopter guys
"The chair is against the wall" and "John has a long mustache" were also code given to the French resistance at the start of the movie The Longest Day
The Mission Impossible helicopter bit was the most realistic thing ever.
Just the confusion and the fact that you can see it in their expressions, there is no way you would not be stunned, confused and trying to figure out how the hell this guy just showed up in your helicopter while it is flying.
The delay in reaction is the most honest portrayal of how a human mind works.
Fun fact, the Cobra Austin Powers clip was filmed in south eastern Utah and the privately owned Cobra flown by a Veteran was suppose to do the strafing run head on but originally Austin was still in the car, no ejection in the script and the Cobra after strafing pulls straight up rotates at the high point pointing straight down swooping treetop to chase Austin in the car but the pilot made some sort of Mis-judgement either pulling up too late or rotating over at too low of elevation or maybe got too cocky and instead up ending up a few feet off the side of the road he flew hard onto the earth belly flopping the cobra HARD at probably 80mph rolling the helicopter accross the sand until it stopped . Pilot surprisingly immidately climbed out with zero injuries and actually cracks a joke to a cameraman that filmed an angle from the ground and first on the scene. That recording of the Cobra crash was not suppose to get out as ordered by the Producers behind the film. They changed the scene to this eliminating the high banking return strafe. (There were rumors that the stunt causing the crash was added day of and they didn’t have proper permits for the particular danger level of the stunt, some saying they had no permits at all and left debris behind and the State got wind of what happened and the failure to clean up the aircraft fuel hydraulic fluids and smaller debris on the side of the road in the red sand of southern utah which they take very seriously ecological issues but initially were told the crash never happened and the fluids weren’t from them which was stupid becasue the debris left was from a Cobra , not many of those flying around and also crashing in utah. Turned out they also didn’t report it to the FAA and goverment entities required to investigate becasue they didn’t have permits and probably were embarrassed. That’s when an unknown source leaked the footage of the stunt and crash on the web & sent a link to the Utah DWR, FAA and posted it on an anonymous CZcams channel. The production company got their attorneys going after everyone that downloaded it and reposted threatening law suits as the footage was their property and got most the videos taken down but just a few months ago I saw it pop up in a “military fails compelation” where the channel says it’s a US Marine Corps Cobra crashing stating it was an active military Helicopter and pilot even though you clearly see it’s a stripped down painted cobra that’s for some reason being filmed and a grey haired old man looking likely Desert Storm vet gets out not in a military jump suit.
So whenever I see this clip I’m reminded the ejection CGI flip of Austin was added in place of the helicopter crash/scam. Not sure what Happened with the FAA NTSB but I’m sure they collected the cobra debris and called the producers back lol.
I thought the Hind D Mi-24 Mock ups in the early version of Red Dawn were pretty good considering the budget the film had to work with.
What ? You mean you cannot tell the difference between a hind or hip and standard nato helicopters as in the two frog puma’s ah another blue on blue coming up
Yeah they were mock-ups but people be like yeah “it doesn’t have the bubble cockpit” not realizing the Red Dawn cockpit is closer to the Hind A
Butch's take on Red Dawn is spot on.
Most of the platforms used in Red Dawn were mock-ups because at the time real Soviet gear was pretty hard to come by, so movie armourers had to make do.
VERY accurate mockups. So accurate that the FBI came out to set to try to figure out where the props department got ahold of them.
The real one's were in the Nevada Desert, north of Nellis AFB
I still love Fire Birds. I remember playing the Strike games for Genesis where you fly a Apache. Hell yeah.
I was stationed at Ft Hood when Fire Birds was filmed. They used our stuff (2AD Avn Bde) for the filming. Got to meet Tommy Lee Jones & Nicholas Cage. Great guys. Had a blast while they were there.
As a SAR helo pilot I honestly find what these guys do absolutely incredible!
I'm disappointed no blue thunder no airewolf no black hawk down 😂
"Get to the choppa!"
The Apache might be super cool but the Cobra old as it is, is still cool. Anything with a gatling gun is cool, even with only 3 barrels.
Hell yeah. We all were waiting for Red Dawn to happen. He's 100% right.
How can it be that Airwolf was not among these
I would've loved to have seen their reaction to the helicopter chase in Italian Job, with the swinging tail rotor attack.
They need to add Black Hawk Down no questions asked one of the best Helicopter movies there is.
We need Recon Marines reacting to Generation kill! Its been way too long of a wait
The Red Dawn helicopters were modified Puma's. They added 4 feet to the front to make them look like the Hines. There's a scene in the movie we're it turning and you can see the real windscreen.
These guys are great! Funny without trying to be. Just genuine good dudes 🤣👍
I just turned 40 and grew up watching movies like Red Dawn and Navy SEALs, Commando....it was great bonding with my father watching those movies. I mean he isn't wrong. I definitely dreamed of this when I was playing war with my buddies in the woods with our toy guns and shooting bb guns.
I love the comment about putting a grease pen reticle on the window of the Little Bird. That's actually how the AC-47s "boresighted" during Vietnam too
Oh hell yea....was in high school when Red Dawn came out... we all knew what we were gonna do head for the Bradshaw mountain north of Phoenix and... give the Ruskies and Cubas a whatfer!!! We still talk about that movie!
That “hind” was actually a British Puma
They remind me of my uncle Matt mcevers what a pilot
Red Dawn was SOOO realistic except that when they shot the RPG in the hallway at the high school, you could see the line that the pyrotechnics flew on I believe lmao
when you do these Short movie clips make sure you use people that knows what they are talking about. Like the clip from Mission Impossible with the 2 helicopters one was a AS350B3e Astar and the other was a BK117 D1.The helicopters in Red Dawn were 2 AS332 Super Pumas that were modified. The Bo105CS in the Bond movie clip can and did do the barrel roll and it is a legal stunt , it was carried out by Red Bull
I think they meant illegal like military will bust your chops for doing that unless it's life or death combat.
Heck yeah!!! Red dawn is a must watch. We all were playing war as kids getting ready for that day
I grew up in Idaho, and after watching Red Dawn for the first time, I too wanted the Russians to invade so we could wage a guerilla war from the mountains. 😁
@14.03 Tommy Lee Jomes has on a set of Nomex flight gloves. I joined the Army in '08 and was issued an identical pair and I have a couple pair still to this day. This film was relesed in 1990 and not many items, especially clothing you get issued from the government will last a decade.
Those "Hinds" are mocked up Aérospatiale SA 330 Pumas. I know this because I am an expert at Googling stuff.
Hoping that Richard will one day make content for Full Mag again.
The Hinds in Red Dawn were Pumas dressed up I think
Yep, and they later reused them for Rambo 2 and 3
@@leilanz8325 did a convincing job too..I remember seeing UH1s dressed up at the NTC during my training there. Always reminded me of RD.
@@racer14glr91 Admittedly, the Hind A looks quite like the dressed up Aerospatiale Pumas, but whenever someone thinks of the Hinds, we see the dragonfly-like cockpit of the D model onward
WHAT??? No A-TEAM HUEY GOING COLD CLIP?!!!
You’re fired
Love those little birds 😍 especially that guy that wasn't a moron and figured out how to put a minigun on there. Necessity is the mother f***** of inventions LOL
"this is the worst Apache movie" I say the same thing about the Hurt Locker being Prior EOD
In Europe, "Fire Birds" was called "Wings of the Apache", and i probably watched that movie 100+ times on VHS as a kid! I thought the simulator scene was the coolest thing ever! 🤦
I definitely got to watch this in elementary school. Remember it to this day
16:40 - See my first response would be that he is quoting "The Longest Day".
Red Dawn 1984 is a timeless classic!
I agree with him!! It was my dream to get invaded after this movie too!
It is still my dream to this day. The Army turned me down. So I want China to invade as soon as possible.
Cousin flew Hueys and Loaches in Nam. Got shot up pretty bad flying back to the 25th Div. base at Cu Chi dodging rain shafts for the CO. Heard three bangs, the third was the bullet that dug into his thigh, chewed up bone, exited and was in the waistband of his underwear. He also flew Cobras, but not in combat.
I remember watching Red Dawn and Heartbreaker Ridge on vhs when i was 6-7 years old
At least 3x I did the Keanu Reaves "Woah" moment as they dropped some knowledge.
i believe all adolescent boys have made several different highly detailed plans as to an attack strategy if we ever got invaded xD
The Hinds in Red Dawn were actually Super Pumas with "make up".
These 2 are a crack up !
I'm with these guys lol. Growing up in idaho after i watched this all i could think about was being a wolverine hahahah
I would just like to say that I have watched your channel for quite some time and I had just had your coffee for the first time 100/10 amazing very much enjoyed
If anyone attacks, it will be the most important battle.
8:08 Wow two Uzis blew up a helicopter. I think the Pentagon invested the wrong equipment.
You think she survived that? With the goose down....
no
😂🤣
Tom Cruise did do his own flying in the film. He went to aerobatics school to train.
Red Dawn (1984) first movie I saw while in Basic Training at Ft. Knox
Hell yeah it was every cool kids dream
Oh man,they were so offended by that Apache movie 🤣
little detail, you can't cutaway reserve ;-) the flying in NZ was awesome. some of my favorite spots where you can have a ton of fun
I think calm cool and collected as soon as they we're simulating. Outta would be a better way.
Cool heads win it.
if the words had to go down its Red Dawn, Zombies, Super Volcano, Nukes
I didn't know Wranglerstar flew Apaches for the forest service... Act Accordingly...
What "little bird" was he flying withba cruise of 60-80? A LOH is faster then that, and the little bird has more than double the HP.
You guys forgot to do Rambo II and, of course, Apocalypse Now.
Let’s do a whole episode where they just watch Airwolf and drunk Jan Michael Vincent
wishing for Red Dawn as a kid,... yup.
We need EOD vets reacting to The Hurt Locker
I can't believe you missed the opportunity to have them react to "Airwolf"
Red Dawn was the first ever PG-13 movie
Biggest movie star in the world, and they keep referring to Tom Cruise as “this guy”.
Composite rotor required 👍
Good video thanks guys 👊🏻🇺🇸
Please bring them back to review 'Birds of Prey'!!
Red dawn ...i still hope it will happen
Every helicopter to me is a jet ranger :)
EC665 Tigre vs AH-64 Apache ? Tiger for me everyday ^^
They used Pumas for the Hinds in Red Dawn
What? No Blue Thunder
Red Dawn is legit
No airwolf? lol or Blue thunder? or black hawk down or apache warrior? man
Guys, how do you think the Pentagon knew to invent the locator chip? I mean if Hollywierd had of not thought this was a good idea in a movie, well no one would have wanted one. LOL, movies are just entertainment. Like one of the Die-Hard movies, Bruce was out running a Sidewinder, if memory serves correctly. It's like in North and South when David Caradine and Patrick Swazey are fighting, watch the scare on Caradine's face change sides. LMAO
Im surprised no one mentioned that Tom Cruise actually flew that helicopter.
The helis are clearly French Pumas dressed as Hind-early models.
Should have done the ATeam. Missed opportunity
The dude in the middle.Look a LOT like Edward Norton
Tom Cruise actually was doing the flying he has a helicopter license
I dare you to tell the red bull helicopter stunt team that barrel rolls are illegal lmao
Pretty sure he meant it as a military law. Like Top Guns "buzz the tower" 👍