$90 vs $2000 Off-Road Lights
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The final test should be a cross country overland trip that tests the reliability and longevity of all the mods
I mean, low car is going to breakdown and need to be left/towed/repaired somewhere.
Edit: I forgot it's still a Toyota Tacoma. Mb.
@@garbagetrash2938 press x to doubt
They should make it a roadtrip from Miami to Toronto.
@@garbagetrash2938 its a toyota... they haven't used any performance upgrades yet so it wouldn't breakdown.
Please!!!!!! That sounds like a great end to the season!!
I really want them to compare the weight of both vehicles by the end of this. Hi Truck has gotta be significantly heavier
And I'd say less capable off road because of it.
Seriously. Hi truck has got to be quite the pooch now with all that extra weight.
@@GasTank87 Seriously they could be 1000 pounds heavier by the time their done. The Bumpers the roof rack, the winch, the fancier lockers and associated equipment, and it's all heavy duty stuff so none of it was designed to be light weight.
@@s.willis8426 not just 1000lbs but a lot of it is up real high… the centre of gravity is getting worse.
That's why the folk with the most expensive stuff is mostly street queens
For me, low team wins on this one. The 2000$ lights are only if you're really serious about off-roading at night. I've seen many 100 buck light setups being way more than adequate in situations where you can't see anything without them
I feel like KCs R&D department just cant keep up with all the LED tech coming out of China and Korea
I think thats a pretty fair assessment. I have a combination of dirt cheap and mildly cheap lights on my right. My light bar was about $500 and works perfectly fine for what I need it to do. The light pods I have were amazon specials and they work fine. My only complaint with the pods is the finish hasnt held up very well but my jeeps not a show rig so that doesnt bother me.
These guys were smoking crack to choose kc
@@sixpath Or were paid to choose them
I agree but I think they could have done better on the brackets for a more sleek look like a rough country roof mounts
Big difference I noticed is the KC lights are brighter much further away, while 80$ lights are brighter closer around you, which is what you typically need if you're on tight trails and need to see closer around you. I personally would prefer the 80$ lights but they def don't look as cool as KC
The relative flood versus spot effect is about reflector design. There are other LED light bars that have a more "throwy" output and would light up the distance similar to the KC setup.
@@JohnBaxendale on the same note, the kc's are modular, and likely they could get a set up that matches the perspective of the low team bar
Nolan: “Let me get a Katana sound effect editor.”
Editor: You have chosen death.
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😂😂😂😂😮 did Nolan wrong lol
This season should just be called doin Nolan dirty lol
Toy katana sound 🤣
When it comes to lights, this is one of those "middle ground is best" type things. Like, there is absolutely no need to spend 2k on a light bar, but spending the bare minimum is also not the greatest. Spend a few hundred on some quality lights and you'll be happy.
Yes like spend a few bucks on a pair or 2 of the old school style kc lights they put on the bumper and call it good. 2 on a roll bar aimed slightly out and 2 on the bumper more straight forward would be plenty and not break the bank.
Baja style racing would be the only time you'd need extremely far shinning lights when off roading. For what they are doing that massive roof light bar system is not necessary.
I spent $90US ($120 Australian) for the spotlights i have on my truck they are awesome, super bright really nice colour temperature aswell (more of a daylight white and not a blueish white) in my opinion i cant really see the point of spending 2K on a set of lights
I went from a set of those older KC to a cheaper light bar. Blew those KCs out of the water and it's still running 8 years later. So longevity isn't an issue either.
why not buy 2 cheap bars for $90 each? Blow the the $2k lights out of the water and use the other $1820 for more mods! Seems like they need "low guy", "high guy" and also a "smart guy".
Yeah , I feel like if they maybe spent like 200-300$ ( still a low budget ) there’s probably a light bar that can compete with kc . Feel like they should do that with every episode . Low truck gets garbage compared to high . When there is items still on a budget that could compete with the high truck purchases lol
A interesting, informative test on comparing both types. I have been running a LED bar for maybe 4 years, it gets a lot of use being in Australia. For the money I would go the cheaper bar, there is only a certain amount of light you need to see the road for safety. I would be tempted to add a second full length bar to the bull bar though, so $180 is still far short of the $2k.
These yanks don’t understand how real 4x4s are built, everything down under is better
Uhmm, these light bars are rated for 'off-road' use and arn't ment to be used on public daily use roads. Because they are like hi-beam and blind the oncoming driver which can cause a serious accident. City drivers who put these light bars it on their city suv's and such...just to use it in city because it ''looks cool'' are bunch of d.... (not trying to offence you, just saying)
I dont know in AU, but in EU if you have one mounted & even disconnected and go to car inspection, you will fail it, because these light bars are not for road use and will have to reapply for inspection again specially taking it down b4 the inspection. And if you'r unlucky to be invited in one of the 'car road-side inspections', then also police will fine you because of it and/or even remove your road legal sticker and stamp on temp. one so that you remove the bar and again need to go to inspection to get your car 'road legal' again.
@@LooNeYlv any (reasonable) person using such lights, if they even use them on the roads at all (many don't, including myself on all but the darkest nights on roads with no streetlights), turns them off when there is incoming traffic, basically using them like upgraded highbeams for when there is no one in front of you.
Also, thats horrible I would hate to live somewhere like that-
@@LooNeYlv in Australia, you are allowed up to 4 additional driving lights. They must be able to be turned off with their own switch, and they must turn off on low beam.
Living in Alaska I need quality lights. Winter is cold and harsh on lights, also the bumps on the road kill bars, I’ve destroyed multiple from road chatter. I’ve never had a rigid, Baja or my vision x bars fail.
I kinda want the teams to swap if you guys do a next season. Would love to see Nolan get to work on Hi-Car :)
Also, you can buy another lightbar and have more light if you wanted. For under $200 total
I also want to see the look on Jame's face getting low car.
Nolan: “Editor could I get a katana sound effect?”
Editor: “mhm, sure. Something like that🤡”
😄
I died, one of the funniest moments they have now 🤣
slide whistle
😂😂😂
@@westleyparker7810
Yes! Had me in stitches
The dark spot immediately in front of high truck would drive me nuts though despite the significantly better light
Same... Flood lights are better as area lights, row of spots will look like one, uneven lights with prominent shadows. I also would think that seeing more to the sides is way more useful than seeing twice as long... which you most likely won't be able to see since there is going to be very bright region close by. If you ask LD which solution should be used, they will say flood lights.
I got you cover bro czcams.com/video/AGCqzDsZVzk/video.html
Now they need better headlights!
@@vSparq I was going to say, that could have been at the spot where, to me, it looked like they were driving with headlights off just to see what their aftermarket lights alone were like... But I'd have to imagine that 2000 dollar lights are going to assume you have some gnarly headlights as well, since you're obviously not sparing any expense to illuminate the area around you...
Headlights are supposed to light up the immediate vicinity in front of you, up to a couple hundred feet. If they had some gnar headlights, then they may find that those KC lights were MUCH more usable, and the low trucks lightbar may not even make *any difference at all* when turned on, once you've got super bright headlights already lighting up that immediate area in front of you, which is where the lightbar really shined, pun intended. The only thing it may do at that point is illuminate some of the area in their peripherals a bit better than your headlights are designed to do, due to not wanting to blind other drivers..
And yes I'm talking with proper headlight housings for the type of lights they install, and beams angled properly down in front of the truck, as opposed to directly in oncoming traffic's effing eyes like EVERY TRUCK OWNER EVER does!
"These'r great! Hmm.. I tilt these sumbitches up a bit more n I cn see a helluva lot better in fronna me! N nobody else but me needsta see when Im the one drivin the truck! Manafachurers sure is stoopid fer not thinkina this one!"
- Every truck owner, *ever*
@@MrKoalatea hahahah
Nolan: “let me get a katana sound effect, Editor”
Editor: “I’ve got a better idea”
editor did him so dirty
Part had me dying
Should have been a light saber effect
The editors are really talented and funny
Seems to me the low truck kit was more useable as mounted though. I suspect the KC system could probably match it with a little tinkering around with the aiming/patterning though but, man for 90 bucks that's really hard to argue with.
I'd love if they made a "importance" list and decided where stuff fit in. So for instance if you only had $X,000 to upgrade your truck, what high parts are important enough for you to spend your money on and what low parts can you get by with. Because tbh low lights worked fine, and even though both James and Nolan went for high lights, I think this would be on the bottom of the list of importance
Isn't that exactly what this is, comparing high cost items to low cost items? Watch the series and decide what items that are pricey are worth spending your money on... and f everyone who tells you otherwise. It's your truck... or car, or whatever
I said this last week. I want a short follow up where Nolan and James have to agree where they spend the money on a truck. Nolan can be the wife and is the husband.
yeah like someone else said, they’re presenting the individual components, you decide how you prioritize the overall list... Of course, for any off road vehicle, tires and suspension are the foundation and should come first.
I think they do that at the end of the series
they did that in the last episode of the last series, i imagine they will do the same here
I'm surprised they didn't give Lo team a $50 flashlight🔦
Hell at this point 😂
Grand Tour status, just strap some bad boy handhelds down with duct tape and it's all good.
@@yatox8 😂😂
Headlight tint the ugly light bar!!!
Yeah judging off of the last episode they couldn’t buy a harbor freight winch
The cost of Hi Truck is more like $3000 since they bought that extra roof rack to mount the lights over the cab. For that price difference, Low Truck can most certainly address the issues of light depth and selectability by purchasing an additional pair of driving lights to increase the depth of field; and, obtaining a Voswitch (or similar product) to increase your flexibility to choose which lights you wish to utilize for the driving conditions. But hey, “You pays your money and enjoy the ride!” Thanks guys! :D
I think with the cheaper lights, you should've ordered 2 of the light bars, had one on the grille and one on the roof. Also, you could have just wired the spots and the bars into a different switch each. But for that amount of light, a 20x price increase seems a touch steep.
Low truck definitely took the W on this one. There's no practical reason to need that much light that far on the trail. Low Truck had a much better pattern. The KC is good if you like looks and don't care about spending stupid money.
100%, who in their right mind would spend $2000 on lights when the $90 light bar is plenty sufficient.
Agree. What they said is completely irrelevant....those KCs are not even close to "be worth it".
@@JP_A3 long term you might want something a bit better though. Feel like a Lazer led bar would be better. Slots in right in the middle in terms of price and gets you a proper warranty and support.
@@isakgustavsen6536 that's the only thing that's actually different is reliability. They should've gone off-road to bang them around to see how they hold up. That being said, you could either keep replacing those light bars or spend a little more and get a reliable one (assuming that one actually isn't reliable)
facts
For another hundred bucks you could have had a really good spotlight mounted to low truck I'm not spending two grand on a set of lights because of the freaking logo
Exactly, also you do not need to see 500 meters infront of you when you offroad. Low trucks wide and smooth visibility is what you want when offroading.
dont get me wrong, high car's lights are a lot better but fuck off are they 2 grand better lmao, low car could've easily spent slightly more and gotten a very similar result
Exactly! In what universe is the more expensive light setup a better option?! A $2000 worth of friggin' lights can be justified ONLY if you are buying anti aircraft illumination!
The main downsight of Low lights is not the lower performance. It's the reliability. Those chinese led systems get hot af. Not only that can fail, but the water seal in the enclosure can fail anytime, leaving you with no lights when you need them the most.
With these kind of survival tools you are paying the reliability mainly, not just the punctual performance. But yeah, the difference is way too much. There must be a reliable choice in-between the two.
Pretty much what I did then bought the covers with the logos of eBay and bang no one can tell the dif
The drone shot was really the kicker to see what we are dealing with. Great shot for the comparison.
Thanks for this video! Just want to note that lux is a linear scale, but our eyes respond to light in a logarithmic manner. Double the lux is only an increase in one "stop" of light. In most circumstances, unless compared side-by-side, one stop of light difference is not very pronounced to the human eye, which can have a total range of up to about 30 stops.
Low team gets this one for me. Only because they insisted so much on the "looks" of the KC to give it the win. I could do some searching and easily find some LEDs that have the same looks as the KC at a "Low Team" budget.
Also I think the Low foglights should have been near the middle so the light was a little more focused.
For real, like how about something half way, like KC style rack with LEDs at like 2-500 dollars or so. Low budget doesn't mean you have to go rock bottom choices
I only gave the win to LoTruck because of practicality. The lights do their job just fine and get the job done.
Legit you can find replicas or similar styled light bar of the KC for 200-500$ bet they work and look just as good as the OG
Or they could have added 2 more in the middle
Yeah they could stack 2 90$ lightbars also....
It would be really great if the next season of Hi-Low they swapped James to be on Low team and Nolan on High team. Still bet James could sell how sick the Low parts are.
i agree, and i think it should be drag cars, like some camaros or mustangs where they do tires, suspension, turbos/ supercharger. in my opinion it would be super entertaining
@@connordannelley5734 I would like them to do High Low Subaru Wrx or STI's
@@connordannelley5734 Yeah American Muscle drag build would be sweet. Like stock v8 mustang or sonething.
This is exactly what I was thinking. That would be awesome
Nolan is the community underdog though, switching lanes breaks the spirit of the show...
Literally obsessed with this channel. The fact that they share such great content and explained in lay man terms is major in. Keep them videos coming!!
That last part when they were talking about the two different setups, and the part about wanting to drive at night.
I like driving at night. I like how quiet it is. Less cars on the road, plus, I drive a lot off road or on small narrow dirt roads.
I have a lightbar setup worth around 240euro, and it's a kind of lightbar with 45 degree ends to throw light in a almost 90 degree angle out. Which is a killer on narrow dirt roads with dense forests around you. Honestly speaking, if it wasn't for that light bar, I would not be comfortable driving on some roads. Especially not during moose hunting season.
I can say that for most people, a cheap lightbar setup is worth it, for seeing more. But if you've got the money and want to light up the night like a portable sun, then go ahead and buy the more expensive setup.
Based on those lux measurements, I'd still go with low truck's setup. It's only 25% of the light, sure, but it costs 5% of what hi truck got. That plus an easier install, I'm sold. Low truck really bangs my buck, if you know what I'm sayin'
Totally agree.
Adding separate switch, two more bumper mounted lights @$50? Add shorter rear mounted light bar. (Backing up, hooking up, easy)
I dont like how focused the kc lights are. With how bright they are they could have dispersed the light more and they'd still seem crazy bright.
Low low low. For the money, you could spend another 90 bucks for a second bar at the grill level, and have the dosh to replace the whole kit 20 more times if it breaks. Once again, middleground proves to be the best, but I would never give this W to hi truck, even as someone who loves the look of big bulbous round KC's.
exactly what i was thinking.
I was surprised the gave the win to the hi team
@@wayando buyers remorse, gotta make some reason to feel the need to say it was worth it
@@wayando It feels like everyone has to agree with James sometimes.
They are tripping, low setup all day. 2k "worth it" lmaooo
Man, this video is bringing me back to south Louisiana in the late 90's.
Got a 1995 Jeep Wrangler in high school and worked my tail off to upgrade it piece by piece when I could.
After a lift, tires, some new rims, and bumpers, my last major upgrade was a full frame light bar with 5 KC Daylighters.
The wiring was as best as I could get it being a 16 year old kid without the internet in it's current form. Seems back then they were much more affordable even taking into account inflation.
Great video, thanks for taking this near 40 year old dad down memory lane.
Wish u were my dad.
My dad sucks
Can’t wait to see the “water” test after install… didn’t see silicone applied to screw/bolt holes of hi-truck, so will more be better? At least low-truck holes were on side and inside weatherstripping dripping rails. Cheers.. can’t lie, that switch panel in hi-truck is phenomenal and I know good, no, great switch panels are not cheap.
Yeah man which switch panel is that/what would you recommend for a switch panel?
Believe me they did waterproof it and install it correctly. Just because it was not shown does not mean they did not do it. If you want to see long install videos and see every little detail you can pay seven dollars a month for extended videos.
I'd go with low truck on this one. You can add 2 more front HID lights for long throw beams and still be low budget
Accidentally honking and scaring himself is why I love Nolan
Absolutely great season guys. Learned a lot saw a lot. Definitely have some more ideas to do to my vehicle. Thanks for the real testing of all the equipment it’s awesome keep it up
I think the kc would of been a lot better if they would of put some wide flood lights on the bumper and the up close light would of been a lot better
The katana sound effect was spot on. James saying "whoaaa that's ugly" immediately killed me as well.
Really need to put Nolan on High team next season. I'm feeling his pain now and I can't even afford a project car 😥
he wanted to be on low team tho
Well both are great options. The only issue is they're different uses.
The KC's would work great in open areas like the desert or plains.
The light bar is great in tight wooded areas or high brush.
The KC's are a projector light, while the light bar is a flood light.
Light placement is a major factor here.
The light bar being mounted on the roof makes a blinding reflect off the hood. I would recommend the bumper or on a roll bar in the bed tbh.
The KC's don't really matter because they're projectors and will move the light beyond the vehicle. I would still recommend them on a roll bar though.
Personally I would just make my own configuration and wire them into switches that operate separately.
The $90.00 light bar is a good start.
The KC's are way too expensive, but more designed for people who want an easy bolt on.
Great series! Informative without being too techy, funny without being stupid!
"looks count for a lot" James sounds like he never leaves LA lol
When you put looks in a car that was meant to be a practical off road build, that just means he probably thought it wasn't worth that much money compared to low teams, not to mention as other people are saying, low team could have spent like another 90 dollars to put another light bar in the grill or something else as well.
No More Parties in LA
@@davidcazares7441 please baby no more parties in LA
Lol why does caring about your appearance have to be an LA thing? I know Americans generally have a terrible sense of style and aesthetics, but don't act like caring about appearance is the weird option of the two. Lol!
If looks count for a lot, then low team wins by a mile, those KCs look ugly and antiquated compared to the sleek modern light bar. That said, if I'm building an off-roader, looks count for nothing, because very few people will ever see it, the trails just aren't that packed. Function is what counts, and that extra $2000 can go a LONG way to better use than paying to have the KC brand stamped on the front.
I love this series, but can we give Nolan hi-car next time?
This, I want so much
When daddy James says no, he means no.
Agreed!!
No.
No. Nolan still has his head on his shoulders. He’d be frugal with the money. James is going for top tier items.
Extra light is always helpful. About 1965, I was driving back to UC Riverside. I had Lucas "flamethrower" driving lights (top of the line in the 60s) on my car. Came over a rise and there was a car well ahead of me. Turned off the lights and a reflective road sign ahead of the other car dimmed.
The ability to put on just the spotlights would be particularly helpful in a snow storm... probably not something you have to worry about, but high beams can make it more difficult to see in a snow storm, that LED light bar I think could truly leave you blinded!
-Shawn
Definitely. Looks like they live closer to desert, but I'm in Wisconsin and I got some cheap $40 yellow fog lights. Mainly thinking about the snow and fog.
I live in a remote part of Montana, where there is a lot of "in between" towns, lots of critters, and not many people. In the winter you can drive at night for hours and not see another car, and sometimes that's just the commute! Bright lights are worth every penny and everything from Honda Civics to semi trucks run extra lights. And mostly we're not criminals...
I live in a small-ish town up a mountain pass and at night, extra lights are pretty handy. Mostly for the critters, less for criminal activity lol
Had KCs on the jeep in Maine in 89-91. It was like daylight at night if there was snow on the ground. Felt bad if we went by a farm house. Sure the Farmers hated how bright it must get when we went by.
I understand the look but for the price a decent size light bar and led headlights are usually more then enough. I had a 42” bar 2 spots and led headlights in my old Jeep Liberty and went from AB to British Columbia at night in winter. It was like driving the sun!
"And we're mostly not criminals..."
that's an interesting way to put that huh...
Mostly
I love how they animated the Trucks exactly according to Hi Low which gives out about some of the episodes
They look... Stocky🧐
@DisneybuysEverything dude why is your reply section is all links like lol
@@fasharamadhani9847 dunno bro
@@fasharamadhani9847 all bots and whores
I work for a commercial cleaning Company one of the many services that we provide is street sweeping we perform this job usually late at night or in the early hours we recently installed LED light bar and LED spotlights similar to low car What are being used for works extremely well the light bar and spotlights we have roped in with work lights on our switchboard
Realistically, how far ahead on the trail do you really need to see? I would go with the cheaper version just because it flooded more light in a shorter distance. I don't need to really see a mile ahead.
it's hard to capture light patterns on camera since it'll automatically adjust. If you go by the measurements, the KC is way better close and far. I noticed it when comparing halogens to new LEDs. It's about 2x brighter but the pics barely show any difference.
On rigs like these, flood is what you’re gonna want. If you’re doing high speeds. You’re gonna want the longer throw of the kc or other high end lights.
@@indridcold69 long throw comes from reflector size.
Having distance throw with has been great on 2 occasions off road.
Dry lake bed trying to find the exit when there are no landmarks before GPS was a thing
2) Looking for a friend that wrecked his side by side in the desert. We were all riding together but had to return to camp for a tow strap to yank him out.
Even psychologically, having light punch out a distance makes me feel safer.
Most modern vehicles have very good flood and short range lights from the factory too from LED head lights and fog lights so I already know what’s 100’ ahead of me.
@@TobyCostaRica I can see it from that perspective...no pun intended...but I have been wheeling for many years and much of it at night. I've found that while seeing a great distance is nice, seeing more of what is closer to me is better. However...I do have a spotlight that I can use in case I need it. I have considered getting a solid pair of good spotlights to put on my rig.
I prefer the low truck visibility at night personally, I'd run it on the grill/bumper tho so the hood wouldn't be bright as f, if you get good HID's or powerful offroad led's for the headlights you can get the distance of the KC's. That's how I run my set up now and it's bright as F.
Good vid
Yeah and they're going to get smashed...I'll take low because of the price to replace
They prolly made a mistake putting it too front cuz they kinda blinding themselves with the hood. But ye bumpers are definitely where they belong
it's supposed to be a little bit on the back so it doesn't create a huge glare on the hood. ChrisFix made a video on how to mount one years ago as well.
Incoming carbon hood for 0 reflection 😎😎😎
@@mal3762 yeah, they are not fan of chris fix haha.
Wathced it too
The light out of the KC's was more warm. I think that's what Nolan means by "more real"
Yeah daylight yellowish warmth vs the artificial blue light that a lot of white LEDs give off.
Actually the characteristic "blue" LED color is much closer to the temperature color range of daylight compared to the warm halogen glow. People just think halogen looks more natural because it is closer to the color of "artificial" light sources like fire and filament lights.
@@crisprapper daylight its actually around 5000K, white with a light blue hue
@@jpiccari Exactly.
The LED bars kelvin rating is like 6000k. The KC lights have a kelvin rating of 5000k which is closer to the suns kelvin rating. That's why OEM HIDs are 4300k. Closest to natural sun light. Warmer light color is much better especially in dusty and foggy conditions.
I bought a $100 22” light bar from LASFIT and I love it so far. Simple installation, great brightness and for the money I definitely enjoy the look and don’t see the use for the $2000 KC Lights but I am just a college student
Would love to see the teams swap budgets next season
Ah yes, the ol' KC air brake and highway-speed whistle bar.
@@czip3007 for a successful attempt of botting
@@czip3007 I'll consider it but only because it's you 😁
I've got multiple KC lights on top of my truck absolutely no whistle Minimal change in drag or fuel mileage and I've got 6" lights the ones on this truck look like 5" lights
@@brandonbld17 I was next to you on the highway. They're loud as!
Still gonna need that 1.21 gigawatts Marty!
"fun daily drivers you can take anywhere, except the ocean"
*laughs in Hilux*
*laughs in WW2 German shwimwagon*
Remembers topgear 😂
Laughs in WhistlinDiesel
*laughs nervously, like he gets the jokes*
When the indestructible hilux still works after being in the oceans
High truck is getting crazy and low truck is becoming a metaphor for my whole life
I have an inexpensive grill mounted 22" light bar and a couple cheap pods I use as fog lights, whole setup including wiring was around $200. Going on 3 years on my truck, still super bright and 0 issues with them.
The “looks more real” with the lighting is called CRI, colour rendering index. Cheap lights have SFA which means everything looks blue and fake.
Thanks for info! I could actually use this to simulate headlights at night in a game, if it's worth the calculations.
How is it possible for a light to looks fake? In real life
@@sara_m You're all over it now, Sara, love it.
Most bright led have normal cri of 80, more than enough for driving
Might explain the way I edit my photos
There's a 20-fold difference in price between the two. I wonder, is there a (let's say) $500 option that has a good combination price, performance, and looks?
That's the thing. The KCs were 20x more expensive but only offered 2x more lux in the tests. James kept mentioning that they are scientifically better lights but didn't really grapple with the fact that those same measurements demonstrated a much worse value proposition for high truck. I just really doubt that the modularity and look, which is totally subjective, can account for that kind of markup. I would guess that a $500 setup that more closely resembled the look and features of the KCs would eliminate them from consideration. If it could offer similar modularity and looks while at least maintaining similar lux to the lightbar, it's a slam dunk for low truck.
So next time a middle of road mods? Best option middle of price between two. $100 to close to $3000? $1500 would get you a lot.
I think you'd do way better getting 2000$ worth of 90$ lights 😁
@@jake2011rt Psssh, "scientifically better" they used a light meter, that's just one metric of measurement.
They mostly seemed to enjoy the looks of the KCs, which isn't very scientific.
Personally, I would have liked to have seen MPG ratings before and after the lights were installed on each truck, those things must cause hella drag and wind resistance and maybe measurable drops in fuel economy.
@@MrTheHillfolk That would be lulz, and also blinding.
These guys have the funniest one liners. I can’t! 😂😂😂😂😂
There’s also the aspect of how leds work they produce a different light aspect, with led set ups you really need two types of a flood and a spot (separate) flood for your low speed drive and spot for your high speed as you can outrun your light with the wrong set up. Also the cheap lights dim after a moment ( it happens with all LEDs) but can be minimized by heat transfer the better the light housing absorbs and dismisses heat the less lumen drop you will get (basically they are less efficient the hotter they are)
Cheap will get you light but not great light.
Do a Hi-Low car wash comparison after getting mud all over the truck.
Thats a fun idea. Not sure if thats enough for a full episode
Could involve whether or not it's worth it to ceramic coat for a fast wash and more protection.
Full detail vs. cheap car washes to achieve same result would be fun
Half the fun would be watching them get the trucks dirty
Yeah and they can all where bikinis
The price when one of hi-trucks bulbs blows or gets smashed vs cost of replacing the whole light setup on low-truck?
It will still be cheaper. You can break the low team light bar 20 times over and it'll still be cheaper
@@ashutoshswain4342 Also KC will probably tell you that to get the light output from factory you need to buy a bulb which will probably cost at least half of what the whole light system of low truck was
The kc’s not worth 20 times the money than the LED bar
The lights are LED...what bulb is going to blow?
@@AveragePicker "or smashed" learn to read the whole thing and electronics fail. LEDs are in that category.
Aim the LED bar higher and get the wash off of the hood. That alone will make the measured output even brighter. Not only that but having the light wash the hood just reflects light back at you as you drive.
if you just added some cheap focused lights to lowtruck on the grill/bumper, you would get more beam focus as well. The individual control of the LED's'is also easily fixable if you are handy with a soldering iron, which definitely goes hand in hand with the DIY mentality.
i dont know why zach saying “hell yeah dude” with his hair is hilarious😂
🤣🤣
I love how they all just be hesitantly supportive of James' wild ass bits that he does 😂
Ain't i just saw your exact comment on this exact video ten hours ago?
@@218kq look at his content and you already what type of channel it is
@@zdy20000 feels like a shenanigans. I met a commenter with the exact same comment before and he copied it.
I love how positive Aaron is, even when the 350 was leaking oil and they were using jb weld to try and patch it, aaron kept it together
That guy is a natural on camera! Needs his own show besides these appearances! love Donut Media
@@ellioteslander3046 Yeah, I'd imagine his time is too limited to have his own show on Donut, but I do wish he could.
Doing two different cars on snake pit and doing it twice a week, with two different presenters alternating would be awesome, especially if the second was Aaron.
Just more Aaron in general would be a good thing!
He has extensive experience with rotary engines if I'm not wrong, the man has gone through much worse I assume.
@@hiragatatsumi5714 Oh yes, I don't recall where I read about the build on his rotary engined RX from Hyperdrive on Netflix, but there was a lot of trial and error fabrication. He was a math teacher with a hobby before that car made a splash.
Thanks my man!! I think it comes from my work on Formula Drift. A lot of people don't know that I've been a professional Mechanic in Formula Drift for the past 7 years. (2) of those as Crew Chief. When you travel across the country to win a race.. you don't give up when a small issue occurs. It ain't over till they tell you you're out of time!!
You should compare diode dynamics, rigid and baja designs
"that you can take literally everywhere... except for the ocean."
Top Gear: *_Hold my hamster_*
IMO, longevity is one of the most important metrics when it comes to lights. I know from personal experience, those cheap Amazon/Walmart LED light bars typically last a few months before they get full of moisture or start to burn out.
Yep I’ve had the same experience they don’t last
Yeah, anything I buy cheap where water is a concern, I reseal everything, or use epoxy if I don't care about taking it apart.
@@fiery_transition i have some light from chine, they got moisture inside them but I reseal them like you, 2 years after all the leds are still running.
You guys don’t have adventure kings do you haha
My light bar was rendered half-dead after a 3-day rain
Lols I'm starting to feel bad for Nolan, love his optimism for the cheaper parts but he looks so demoralised when James asks him which do you think is better, his poor face 🤣
Agreed
I’d love to see them switch teams for the next set of cars they do
Yeah they should've switched places for this second build
@@miloromero2887 exactly
Kinda disappointed they didn't switch build for this seasons, i hope they switch team later for next build. Give my man Nolan a high budget too pls 😔
I like that little animation. Cartoon high and low trucks looks just like the ones irl
The cheap lights gave you more width which is really what I need on nighttime trails, especially when you're coming around blind/dark curves and you need immediate vision rather than waiting for your 500mi spot lights catch up.
In future seasons, I'd love a "middle" option. That's almost always where you'll get the most bang for your buck.
like half the kc lights and one cheap light..
That's not the point of the show and at that point it'd be just another generic parts vid
@@ohioplayer-bl9em 100%, best setup is gonna be 2-4 KC's and a light bar/rigid industry pods in the bumper and ditch lights on the hood.. Probably less than 1k.
they certainly are pushing the "high" to the extreme with this season lol
Extreme?! I'll show you extreme czcams.com/video/AGCqzDsZVzk/video.html
Barely
@@MrKoalatea imagine that dude in the opposite side of the road full blast
@@MrKoalatea Wow. You were not kidding.
I like the 90$ light bar set up for what I'm after for my 99 ranger 4x4 as a better more affordable option as I can not afford 2k..not at all! Love the side by side comparison that was sweet ...
My set up on my suburban is a light bar on top of the vehicle and a light bar set inside of the bull bar in the front of the vehicle. I also have a light bar set into the rear bumper as well. Total cost a bit under $600.
*”MY EYES, MY EYEEEESSSSSS!!!”*
-Spongebob background character, 2004
That’s a phoebe rip off.
"Lemme get a Katana sound effect editor "
Editor: Whooooooooooop
Priceless!
I was thinking the same thing! Looking for this comment lol
I cried lol
i laughed cause it doesn't as request.
lolololol same
@2:44
Honestly, I would get a mix of both. The light bar illuminated the immediate area much better but I would use a couple spot lights for long stretches of road.
Love this series!
who ever did those drums to James' specific tempo of song is a real one.
I need a full version lmao. The follow-up to “Pop-Up-Up-And-Down Headlights” 😂
I was going to compliment James actually instead. He seemingly stayed at the exact same tempo for that whole little "song," without a click track or ANY kind of percussion/bass to lead him... Unless they slowed or sped this down minutely in spots, that's incredibly impressive that he was able to sing that at such a constant speed, thus that it allowed them to put a constant tempo behind it *afterwards* in editing!
I think James became a musical rainman after his heart attack... It's the only way. If I'd done that, the beat would have been all over the place trying to stay with me at all lol.
I like how the whole crew seems to have extremely good chemistry.
I like how attractive your profile pic is
@@diegoochoa572 Your profile picture is literally a D. Does not get more attractive than that.
I was just thinking I love James's personality in the vids, but that if I worked with him, it might get grating.
@@CybrSlydr yes. Basically this. I would NOT want to work with/for him. He seems idk. Egotistical? Like, being on Low Car/Truck is beneath him.
@@Enidx10 I choose to think he plays it up for the camera.
you can wire your ditch lights separate if you make 2 wiring harness so you can turn on your bumper lights and then separately turn on your main light and if you don’t want messy wires all over the place you can zip tie them all up into a bundle and tuck them in a open space
the bottom bar for the length of the add is really nice, thank u
“Can I get a katana sound effect?”
(Gives Nolan a slide whistle)
Love low car, looks a lot cleaner, high car looks like the car I made on NFS back in 2005 😂
That's so true man!
The weight added kills what little acceleration those trucks have. I did all of this on my Wrangler and wish I had taken weight into consideration. Low Truck will definitely have better acceleration.
Glad I'm not the only one
@@freebehindbars8654 Toyota 6 cyl, all the gas mileage of a V8 with all the power of a 4 cyl!
@@Mikesonbikes That’s a good one. True, but that damn Toyota reliability still makes it desirable.
You guys put out dope content. Love it.
I bought a 4WDKING light bar for my 1991 FJ80 land cruiser and let me tell you, the 28k lumen rating was not a joke. I’ve taken that single row 40” light bar all around the country and it can light up a whole mountain from a quarter mile. Bought a Nilight wiring kit with a relay for it and it’s far brighter than any of my friends KC bars or other light bar brand.
I drive a lot in rural areas in deer country. I installed a light bar behind my grille. It makes spotting and avoiding deer much safer and easier.
There's no way I'd spend $2k for lights. If I do smack a deer and ruin a lightbar, I'll buy a new one and put it on a different truck. With the daylighters, you're screwed if there's any physical damage.
how hard are you hitting these deers that they hit the roof of your car?!?!?!?!?
@@zeedstun891 - you missed the part where he said "behind his grill". Also, in the Midwest and northern area of the US it's not uncommon to encounter deer on the major highways and interstates, so 65 - 80 mph is a real option. Hitting anything close to the size of an adult deer is a total write-off at that speed.
I’d go with low truck on this one but those KC’s will work just the same in 10 years where that light bar will be long gone. Great job guys!!! Lover the series
But you can buy 25 low truck light kits for the same price of the high truck light so replacing it every once and a while isn’t actually that big of a deal.
I have a $40 dollar light bar for more than 5 years now with no issues lol
The LED ebay lights have leakage issues that cause premature failure, HOWEVER, a neopreme cover costs 18$, and has been working for 4 years on my wrangler
@@PantyDropper69 do you mean neoprene? That’s neat where’d you get it? I wonder if I could just get a sheet of neoprene and almost “shrink wrap” it around something to make it watertight.
Yeah I was thinking the same. But just buy 4 of the cheap bars and swap them out if one breaks. Still be way way cheaper.
Lux test was a game changer! Nice touch!
I have an old set of low dollar led lights on my Jeep. Im in the PNW where there’s always trees and bushes for the light to reflect off of the low dollar lights are more then bright enough. But when Im in the Southern California deserts at night you can easily out drive your lights. That’s where the higher end lights are worth the money.
Keep this series going guys. One thing I notice between the two is the light stability when driving, The LED light bar and pods were not shaky compare to the $2K KC light's shakes when driving.
That most likely is because low trucks brackets were screwed directly to the body while hi trucks lights were mounted on a roof rack. The roof rack is going to more vibrations and flex to get to the lights. If the KC lights were mounted to the chassis, the stability should have been about the same.
You guys need to take these trucks for a multi day trip when you're done with em!!
Looks like they're adding rooftop tents based on how the animations match the trucks, so it'll probably happen.
9.04 "you look like bo burnham" 😂 I knew zac reminded me of someone I just didn't know who
My 2006 Tacoma TRD finally had its fog lamps burn out, years after the yellow faded off the plastic lenses, so I went to our local Mud Connection and bought a pair of yellow led fog lamps. OMG, These are so good for coverage, who the hell needs a topper light bar! I love them! Now, they cost $348/pair installed, but MG how nice they are! And mounted low, I have no problem with oncoming traffic high beam blinking at me!
14:40 just wire in a separate switch for the spots. it still won't be 2 grand.
Hard to tell from watching a video instead of real life, but it looks like the KC setup is more useful at speeds and the lightbar if you're going slow. So out in the woods doing some mud and rock crawls, light bar seems to flood near the truck very well. Doing a rally at night, the KC because it lights up far and very well.
Best series for a long time on YT. Keep it up...
"This thing finally.looks like a toy truck and that was the dream all along" I love that
That drone shot at 11:40 is amazing, you can see how bright the KCs are at a distance.
2000 dollars can get you 22 of low teams lights and you'd have 20 dollars leftover for food or something.
So in this case, no, the more expensive lights aren't better.
I also didn't think the low lights didn't look as bad as they said. Would 100% take low over high. (Probably would get something in the middle)
This
Katana sound effect hit really hard 🤣🤣🤣 stroke of genius !
I feel like you could easily modify the light bar to selectively use the fog lights and maybe implement variable brightness to the leds.