"I Expect This To Be The Worst Contract In NHL History Until It's Done" | FN After Burner

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  • čas přidán 11. 12. 2023
  • Pinder's thoughts on Huberdeau's game last night & what he has seen from him this seasonn.
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  • @kelseywalker2342
    @kelseywalker2342 Před 6 měsíci +24

    Brad treliving signs the worst nhl contract after just getting out of what was the worst contract that he traded for in lucic that was an upgrade from the terrible signing that Neal was after the horrible buyout deal from Troy Brouwer. Calgary loves him but objectively he was a terrible gm

    • @kylem9402
      @kylem9402 Před 6 měsíci +6

      You nailed it, Treliving was a garbage GM and he was constantly protected and coddled by the Flames media.

    • @ashtonishing656
      @ashtonishing656 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I disagree wholeheartedly.

    • @kelseywalker2342
      @kelseywalker2342 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@ashtonishing656 terrible might be too strong, but can you name anything he did particularly well? I think his draft record is not to bad but I give scouts more credit than the gm especially for deeper round picks. His signings have been brutal ( Brouwer, Neal, jager,) or meh (Elliot, Johnson, chaison, England) tanev has been great, frolick, Coleman is about what you would hope for, Markstrum has been great for one of first three years here and ok this year. The Travis hamonik trade was way too much, the Carolina was a win win trade.
      Ultimately he almost built a great team that massively underperformed in the playoffs and traded/lost his whole core and made worse and worse signings until we are stuck with literally the worst contract in the league AGAIN

    • @oddclod
      @oddclod Před 6 měsíci +1

      yep

    • @oddclod
      @oddclod Před 6 měsíci +1

      Brouwer and Neal’s contracts combined are still less than Jonathan (Joe) Colborne’s

  • @faaraoful
    @faaraoful Před 6 měsíci +2

    Glad that it's you guys than us. -Panthers' fan.

  • @CallsignJoNay
    @CallsignJoNay Před 6 měsíci +3

    Hmmm, hard to beat of the Rick DiPietro contract.

  • @johnconrad1500
    @johnconrad1500 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Holy crap,, Rhett got HOT!! and interesting too!!

  • @Riderfan04
    @Riderfan04 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I agree with Pinder. Huberdeau should be on his knee praising Treliving's name for giving him that contract he's making bank for literally doing nothing. I just checked CapFriendly because I couldn't remember Hubie had 1 year left on the Florida contract when he got traded to Calgary with Weegar. Why did we not let the 22-23 season play out and then if he plays like shit (which he did and still is) you could have sent him packing at or near the deadline. Brad pulled the trigger way to hard and fast on signing Hubie to an extension because he was panicking because Tkachuk wanted out and Johnny left without getting anything in return. Now Connie is stuck in a situation where you can send him packing but no one in this league is taking that contract without money retained.
    Even Cami made a great point the ONLY time he looked good was in pre-season LAST YEAR.

    • @wainber1
      @wainber1 Před 6 měsíci

      Preseason counts for very little. It’s still count that Huberdeau‘s contract is in its first season, and that the no-move clause on that contract will, barring a buyout, be full-blown up to and including two the end of the 2028-29 NHL season. The last two seasons of his contract feature a modified no-trade clause that will allow the Flames to trade him to any of 12 other NHL teams.
      Excluding preseason play, Huberdeau last season played 79 games via which he had put up 55 points including 15 goals. Rounded to the nearest ¹⁄₁₀₀₀ point, he averaged 0.696 points per relevant game. In that season, the Flames didn’t see playoff action.
      John Tavares, who with the Leafs in July 2018 signed a seven-season US$77 million contract, has an FBNMC throughout but with that contract set to expire in June 2025. I will ignore all the hoopla over his having earned his 1000th career regular-season point in a Monday Mountain Time OT loss by his current team to his NHL Draft one because I will look only at his regular-season point production effective last season when Huberdeau started his existing contract. Last season over 80 games he put up that many points, including 36 goals For just US$500,000 more against the cap, on regular-season point production, Tavares was much better value-for-cap-hit than Huberdeau. That was even with Tavares having been born in 1990, in the third year before Huberdeau.
      In non-preseason games Tavares has, following last May’s Panthers-Leafs‘ playoff series, he has played 26 games during which he’s put up the same number of points, including having scored eight goals. Huberdeau, during the same relevant time span, has played 29 games during which he has put up just 15 points, including half as many goals as Tavares. Rounded to the nearest ¹⁄₁₀₀₀ point for game, Huberdeau so far this season has averaged 0.517. At no point this month has Huberdeau put up a point through six games he has played, the same number the Flames have played. Through five December games Tavares has played, he has points in each.
      TBD will be whether GM Conroy decides to, during the 2024 off-season, buy out what by then will remain on Huby’s contract. Whatever does happen, it can be easy to overlook Huby’s lack of point production during his team’s pair of games in the southwest of the contiguous US because his plus-minus was zero in each of those games. Furthermore, goal-scoring wasn’t such an issue by his team in either game although the lack of effective team defence was.

  • @coryjohn4057
    @coryjohn4057 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Flames were fleeced. I said it the day it happened. I also said JT Miller who signed for less would out produce him.

  • @justincase4812
    @justincase4812 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Also part of an NHL player's job is to keep up appearances including media scrums. Saying words that amount to fluff. It's all part of the act. The show being put on is from a person that just simply does not GAF anymore after signing the FU money contract. That's it, simple. Not possible to go from a 115 point player to what he is now. It is not possible to be that much of a floater among talent to then accrue 115 points in the NHL. Guy just doesn't GAF anymore.

  • @kevintorgrimson8529
    @kevintorgrimson8529 Před 6 měsíci +2

    On the PP, he tries passing through 3 sticks....i'm like what is he doing??? No patience, no confidence.

  • @samsquanch67
    @samsquanch67 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Stienberg and wills love him!

  • @noahadler6320
    @noahadler6320 Před 6 měsíci +1

    It’s historically bad, worse thing about it is, you can’t trade him away, unless ur okay with paying him to not be on the team for the next decade and a half 😬

  • @EsspressoMan1
    @EsspressoMan1 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Send Huberdough to the Wranglers for a month

  • @rkumar3000
    @rkumar3000 Před 6 měsíci

    Rumor out of Montreal in November said they would take Huberdeau $10.5M for Gallagher $6.5M and Anderson $5.5M.

  • @keh956
    @keh956 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I’ve been saying this about Huberdeau shortly after we got him… this guy isn’t a star player. He’s slow, he makes bad passes and has no energy. This is a guy who has done nothing but complain

  • @johnavery2020
    @johnavery2020 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Time for a rebuild

  • @sasso09
    @sasso09 Před 6 měsíci

    I remember fans telling us how Huberdeau was better than Couturier 🤣 🤣

  • @patarmand3593
    @patarmand3593 Před 6 měsíci

    what about landing Nylander as a line mate? i'm partially kidding, but Hubbie is just plain awful right now. i get excited when he makes a successful pass! lol

  • @oddclod
    @oddclod Před 6 měsíci

    Easy to say that now… and I told you so.

  • @Clo-we7tl
    @Clo-we7tl Před 6 měsíci

    This is right there with DiPietro when they gave him 15 years lol ole Wang on long island Jesus whatta mess

  • @fireflyrain
    @fireflyrain Před 6 měsíci

    He does'nt have the confidence wit the puck at all. If he can just hold on to the puck a quater of what Zary hold to the puck he'd be ok.

  • @zoots15
    @zoots15 Před 6 měsíci

    Both wearing toques. Must be cold in there

  • @adambruce5273
    @adambruce5273 Před 6 měsíci

    There is no way this is worse than DiPietro. In fact, DiPietro is still getting paid $1.9MM and will be until 2029. 15 year, $67,500,000 contract, This cannot be beat! I think Johnathan's contract completes only 1 or 2 years after haha!

  • @dagon9093
    @dagon9093 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Nothing beats the crappy rick DiPietro contract the islanders gave to him. I think they are still paying him or it just ended, that was a brutal contract

    • @ryanhauck70
      @ryanhauck70 Před 6 měsíci

      yeah thats what i immediately thought of

  • @dredd2225
    @dredd2225 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Put on waivers! send him down

  • @deeznuttz1011
    @deeznuttz1011 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Conroy needs to somehow trade Gaudreau for Hubby somehow. It's painful watching him right now. Any one on the 4th line is contributing more than Hubby, unfortunately.

    • @ashtonishing656
      @ashtonishing656 Před 6 měsíci

      Dumb idea

    • @Tairygreen
      @Tairygreen Před 6 měsíci

      Check the stats, dude. Before you leave a dump of a comment like that

    • @deeznuttz1011
      @deeznuttz1011 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Tairygreen I know Gaudreau is doing horribly in Columbus but can't imagine it being worse for him coming back as he's already accustomed to play in this division/team. Gaudreau and Hubby both have 15 points but Hubby 2 games less. That ain't a deal breaker. At least Gaudreau can help bring the puck in on the PP.
      And by 4th line contribution, I don't mean just pure point output. Greer forechecks and gets a offensive opportunity while Hubby gets passes constantly intercepted.
      Hubby seems to be a great guy but, as per Pinder's comments, still haven't seen anything close to a player even half of his contract. My optimism is fading unfortunately.

  • @givor9910
    @givor9910 Před 6 měsíci

    Really?? DiPietro ring a bell??

  • @canadasugardaddysugardaddy1797

    You knew the trade for fishy from the start. Why would zito trade a 115 point player for a 105 point player AND still give up Weegar, a first round pick and a prospect??? That was the first clue Florida knew Huberdeau was dud

    • @romaliop
      @romaliop Před 6 měsíci

      The trade wasn't bad. I'm pretty sure even Zito didn't expect Calgary to give Huberdeau anything near that contract, since iirc he himself didn't even make an offer to him. Tkachuk was leaving anyway so even without Huberdeau this trade would have been great value for the Flames. It's honestly almost like Huberdeau is a negative asset in this trade in Zito's eyes, someone he's paying to get rid of.

  • @rotorhd2
    @rotorhd2 Před 6 měsíci

    Picked off waivers, Greer has more positive impact on games than H.

  • @canadasugardaddysugardaddy1797
    @canadasugardaddysugardaddy1797 Před 6 měsíci +2

    The blame lies with Corny Conroy. In the summer, he could have hired Andrew Burnette, Huberdeau’s coach in Florida who knew the formula to get 115 points out of him. Then Florida this summer offered Anthony Duclair to the flames, Huberdeau’s main linemate and great chemistry between the two. And what does Corny do? He doesn’t make the trade. Talk about Corny failing miserably to put the best pieces in place to make your 10.5 million dollar star succeed. Conroy is to be blamed big time

  • @trdaniels333
    @trdaniels333 Před 6 měsíci

    Stop interrupting her. I do agree with you though. I think he is a lost cause.

  • @janisdurwael269
    @janisdurwael269 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Package Huberdeau and Dube and and get a worthy player in return..Someone that can score on occasion...Good luck!

  • @raesmart3305
    @raesmart3305 Před 6 měsíci

    Brad screwed this team for the next 8 years. It would be better of put him wavers or eat 2-3 million and give him away

  • @mr.xblade
    @mr.xblade Před 6 měsíci

    whos she??

  • @sayntedanon8306
    @sayntedanon8306 Před 6 měsíci

    Johnathan Huberdeau has to go. He's a total joke. 6 more yrs? Gtfoh. Bye.

  • @memetrunk
    @memetrunk Před 6 měsíci

    Pinder is a BC person, Cami is a Sask person. Cami wins. It’s just how it works in Calgary. I’d like to hear her talk for more without being interrupted and silenced by monologues. I’m a talker so i’m guilty of it. Prolly why I notice it more. Maybe i’m overthinking. Probably

  • @ariea.devalois1564
    @ariea.devalois1564 Před 6 měsíci

    I expect Pinder to offer the worst take on CZcams, routinely. And I'm never disappointed.