Games that Make You Part of the Ecosystem

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  • čas přidán 8. 05. 2024
  • Discover the virtual ecosystems that make you part of the food chain. A meditation on games with worlds designed to make you feel like a small player in a much wider environment.
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    It’s a unique experience when a game makes you feel truly unimportant - like you’re just a tiny part of a much larger environment. When a title successfully instills this feeling, it can be like witnessing a sort of magic trick. So what I’d like to do today is take you backstage and explore how different games succeed in making you part of their ecosystems…
    0:00 Video Game Ecosystems
    1:09 Part of the Food Chain
    4:06 Changing Perspectives
    6:07 The Power of Insignificance
    8:47 Tears of the Kingdom
    12:13 On Biomes
    15:09 Endling
    17:52 A Dark Future
    20:02 Hope for Tomorrow
    Media Shown: Planet of Lana, Webbed, Gibbon: Beyond the Trees, The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom, Rain World, Minecraft, Endling, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Horizon: Forbidden West, Subnautica, Subnauitca: Below Zero, Skyrim, The Witcher III: Wild Hunt, Ori and the Will of the Wisps
    Additional Footage from:
    Wolfire Games: / @wolfiregames
    D4rw1N: / @d4rw1n
    Copyright Disclaimer: Under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education, and research. All video/image content is edited under fair use rights for reasons of commentary.
    I do not own the images, music, or footage used in this video. All rights and credit goes to the original owners.
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    ♫ Additional music by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com):
    Infinite, Beauty Flow, Majestic Hills, Second Coming - No Percussion, Bittersweet, Floating Cities
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  • @suntzu3905
    @suntzu3905 Před 9 měsíci +7197

    Plague inc evolved makes me feel like a part of the ecosystem

  • @casualbird7671
    @casualbird7671 Před 8 měsíci +1933

    Rain World is such a special one to me, especially with how it's designed to have a full ecosystem that functions with or without the player

    • @uwepfaff9226
      @uwepfaff9226 Před 8 měsíci +106

      I absolutely love staying on screen after death and watch predators and other animals interact with each other without me :’D

    • @shadowbonbon3
      @shadowbonbon3 Před 4 měsíci +37

      @@uwepfaff9226yeah, safari mode was probably one of the best ideas they had with downpour and many times it’s just as fun to just watch scavengers as it is to play a red centi

    • @ralliotxd6780
      @ralliotxd6780 Před 3 měsíci +3

      I bought it in the launching in steam when it was less than 10 dollars

    • @Some1_357
      @Some1_357 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Rain world was a crazy experience, ive never enjoyed games much but when i heard about rain world it just caught my eye. I got it for christmas and beat the game for almost every campaign (working on spearmaster, monk, hunter and rivulet right now) it was worth every penny.

    • @casualbird7671
      @casualbird7671 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@Some1_357 I hope you have a wonderful time finishing it! Spearmaster and Rivulet's campaigns are quite special

  • @pathxtoxruin
    @pathxtoxruin Před 9 měsíci +823

    Kenshi is a perfect example of a game where you start off thinking it'll be a standard rpg game but you quickly realize you are not the main character. In fact if you die the game doesn't even end. You can sit there and watch the world go on around your corpse until you get bored. It's an awesome game but one that takes time to learn how to play well. Definitely worth checking out.

    • @Nachtschicht1
      @Nachtschicht1 Před 8 měsíci +43

      One of the best games ever and a perfect example for the topic of this video.

    • @meksit
      @meksit Před 8 měsíci +6

      Yes it is!

    • @FiendishBanana
      @FiendishBanana Před 8 měsíci +16

      Dove into comments looking for this.

    • @aznryan1730
      @aznryan1730 Před 8 měsíci +5

      Ya beat me to it

    • @bonafide4874
      @bonafide4874 Před 5 měsíci +6

      I so badly want Curious Archive to do a video about Kenshi, or to mention Kenshi haha! I was thinking about Kenshi throughout this video. Perhaps ecosystem is not the correct word to describe it, but Kenshi defintely makes you feel like you're not important, or you could die at any moment.

  • @rmguy1342
    @rmguy1342 Před 9 měsíci +871

    Far Cry 2, Rain World, The Long Dark, Kenshi, and Darkwood are some of the games that make you wondering wether you're NPC or MC due to constant threat you're facing no matter how well equipped or experienced you are in the game

    • @sneezyfido
      @sneezyfido Před 9 měsíci +40

      I love Kenshi!
      When I can decide on what I want to do, I will start another run.
      I want to do more about towns and maybe live in them.

    • @Espartanica
      @Espartanica Před 9 měsíci +11

      A player cannot be a non player character, and you as the focal point the story has makes you the main character. I get your point tho

    • @BierBart12
      @BierBart12 Před 8 měsíci +36

      @@Espartanica A better word would probably be non-protagonist or side-character. At least in worlds that have a clear protagonist or focal point that isn't you. Like you being a sidekick or a simple guard, hearing the story unfold from a distance

    • @Espartanica
      @Espartanica Před 8 měsíci +9

      @@BierBart12 Protagonist is simply the character or entity that the story follows. The only way not to be the protagonist is not to have a particularly important character in the story.

    • @X-SPONGED
      @X-SPONGED Před 8 měsíci +10

      Yup, Far Cry 2 is unforgiving. Rain World makes clear you are part of the ecosystem. The Long Dark (especially on interloper) makes you feel like the last human on earth scrounging for scraps in a world that doesn't want you there anymore. Darkwood is literally a story about you getting trapped inside the dark woods and desperately trying to adapt to the environment and find a way out or fall peril to the many clinically insane residents or dangerous hostile threats inhabiting the wilderness.

  • @bluehairedemon
    @bluehairedemon Před 9 měsíci +2577

    i love rain world and the way it forces you to learn how different creatures interact with each other.
    i have 300 hours on it and im still learning new things

    • @booyahboogie3350
      @booyahboogie3350 Před 9 měsíci +65

      i have 800, and even *IM* still learning new things!

    • @siyahkopek9415
      @siyahkopek9415 Před 9 měsíci +9

      Same exept the loads of hours but I do own it on Xbox recently have been playing it a lot he has vids on ur you know it’s his most popular vids

    • @lolman6759
      @lolman6759 Před 9 měsíci +54

      Did you know squidcadas hunt leeches by letting one on them then carrying them to dry land. That's why you can often see dead squidcadas being feasted on by leeches

    • @siyahkopek9415
      @siyahkopek9415 Před 9 měsíci +9

      @@lolman6759 yes

    • @deham2514
      @deham2514 Před 9 měsíci +11

      ⁠@@lolman6759did you know that all slugcats except saint can eat centipedes

  • @spacecandygames7575
    @spacecandygames7575 Před 9 měsíci +1762

    As a dev, who has also supported planet of Lana during the whole development of their game it’s exciting to see them in your video. They inspired me to fix the visuals of my game. Thank you for giving them more exposure

    • @coledaulton8740
      @coledaulton8740 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Pls do dragon slayer codex part two and more realistic Pokémon

    • @pixelzebra8440
      @pixelzebra8440 Před 8 měsíci +7

      I’ve played the beginning of the the planet of Lana and it’s SO GOOD I love mui and how they have their own language instead of just talking in English which makes no sense lol

    • @incognitovagabond4763
      @incognitovagabond4763 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Reminds me of if odd world, blackthorne and out of this world had a brain child

    • @Mythqil
      @Mythqil Před 6 měsíci

      loved that game so much

    • @anselme198
      @anselme198 Před 3 měsíci +1

      my first thought is that gameplay seems highly inspired by abe's odyssey.

  • @ruthiewitter569
    @ruthiewitter569 Před 9 měsíci +82

    Man, I don’t know what exactly it is about these videos, but they bring me to tears. These games are such a gorgeous, powerful, inexpressible work of art and storytelling. It’s so moving.

    • @maynardz03
      @maynardz03 Před 2 měsíci +1

      cool im not the only one

  • @Spiney09
    @Spiney09 Před 9 měsíci +22

    First time I played subnautica, I had thought that the bigger creatures had infinite HP. Playing it while thinking I had to avoid every leviathan made me feel small in a larger world. Great experience.

  • @robert2german
    @robert2german Před 9 měsíci +1999

    Now I really want to see you talk about the world of Pikmin.

    • @turnipbuthimself9929
      @turnipbuthimself9929 Před 9 měsíci +82

      For real! The game itself does a good job of cataloging its creatures already so I feel it would be a good video

    • @axjagfilms
      @axjagfilms Před 9 měsíci +16

      Louie

    • @waffletop1018
      @waffletop1018 Před 9 měsíci +4

      yes

    • @robert2german
      @robert2german Před 9 měsíci +26

      IMO, 1 and 3 certainly lean into the theme of an indifferent environment, while 2 and 4 are more focused around conquering the environment, but regardless, there is always a sense of mystery.

    • @youraveragephesh3173
      @youraveragephesh3173 Před 9 měsíci +18

      He needs to read Louie's Piklopedia entries that teach us how to cook bulborbs and stuff 💀

  • @gurburgandr
    @gurburgandr Před 9 měsíci +294

    One game that makes you feel like an actual ant is shadow of the colossus, not only do the creatures dwarf you, the vast open expanses of grasslands, water, or titanic structures lost to time. The grey sky, lack of human life and large gap between boss fights paints this picture of emptiness. Its one of the reasons why I love it

    • @shadowcween7890
      @shadowcween7890 Před 9 měsíci +8

      Shadow of the Colossus needs to be talked about more

    • @mightyx5441
      @mightyx5441 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@shadowcween7890 as a person who playes games for fun first the world 2nd the story 3rd, shadow of the colossus is a good, but boring do the same thing game, to big of a world with little added things, the story is "don't skip the cutscenes" ok

    • @GameOver-nm2us
      @GameOver-nm2us Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@mightyx5441 it's not a game to be replayed over and over again, you got competitive games for that. It's a game to relax, chill out, and just soak it in.

    • @Azuria969
      @Azuria969 Před 2 měsíci

      *Grounded

    • @-mako-6018
      @-mako-6018 Před 17 dny

      @@mightyx5441 people like you are the last kind of people i'd take game suggestions from

  • @smookthecat
    @smookthecat Před 8 měsíci +39

    There is a part in Abzû that is quite simular to 07:42 and it instantly reminded me of that scene. Not one to one but the way you described it just being you and the sun it is the same in this case with the fauna in that scene. The scene where you dive down, slowly next to a whole lot of whales. They start as small is humpbacks but keep getting bigger and bigger with the score underneeth until you are looking into the eye of a blue whale. An eye as big as your character. Ho ly s h i t do i get chills every time i play that. Just these absolute units living their life and oh THE MUSIC. Just wow. One of my fav games.

    • @ayyayayayayayyayyyayyyayayyaya
      @ayyayayayayayyayyyayyyayayyaya Před 3 měsíci +1

      ohh i played abzu i was like eight or nine and shitting bricks . havent played that game since or come close to finishing it.....

  • @MysticMylesZ
    @MysticMylesZ Před 8 měsíci +14

    12:02 that's an interesting perspective.
    I've played it so long and known so much of it, even outside of the game, that I had the complete opposite view.
    Nothing in Minecraft happens unless you do something, with the exception of it hitting night time, there are no pledges, natural disasters, if a catastrophic event happens like the wither, you caused it. You can even avoid night time monsters by lighting up the environment.
    And you can shape the world around you by yourself, doing what would take whole civilizations years on your own in less time, all in survival mode. While you're still able to be harmed and still need food, you can do so much.

  • @emeraldeyesinthesand8355
    @emeraldeyesinthesand8355 Před 9 měsíci +444

    I always love to hear your voice when I work out dude. Love seeing you explore new worlds and seeing new and weird creatures.

    • @kingperson4102
      @kingperson4102 Před 9 měsíci +51

      No way blud works out to speculative bio vids 💀

    • @emeraldeyesinthesand8355
      @emeraldeyesinthesand8355 Před 9 měsíci +11

      ​@@kingperson4102😅😅

    • @goattrigger965
      @goattrigger965 Před 9 měsíci +6

      I can't even begin to comprehend what I just read

    • @Tortwag
      @Tortwag Před 9 měsíci +2

      ​@@emeraldeyesinthesand8355
      That's a pretty soothing way to work out 😁 I generally use nature documentaries I haven't watched in a while during kendama practice, so, this hits close to home.

  • @Verminator4
    @Verminator4 Před 9 měsíci +361

    Stalker felt like a great ecosystem game. Sure, there’s the hideous mutant enemies and strange phenomena to contend, but the human factions feel like part of it too with the way everyone is fighting for the zone’s resources and stealing and scavenging from one another.

    • @tennoskoom2233
      @tennoskoom2233 Před 9 měsíci +43

      the mutants and phenomena are what make it so alien though. every place outside towns feels like uncanny valley. spend enough time in the Zone, and you forget it exists as part of our reality, and most of the people who live there have also forgotten that. the Zone will chew you up and spit you out

    • @RezaQin
      @RezaQin Před 9 měsíci +9

      Love Stalker.

    • @bobnegman3816
      @bobnegman3816 Před 9 měsíci +30

      What made stalker as a whole so great is that the zone doesn't care how much it throws at you, whether it be an anomaly, mutant, bandit, emission etc. You're just another stalker, and the game really punishes you for any mistake or factor you overlooked. It's just baffling how it's all just AI running around doing it's own thing and how nothing is scripted.

    • @tricksterzyro3230
      @tricksterzyro3230 Před 9 měsíci +24

      The AI in STALKER is amazing, patrols wander the Zone, bandits encounter said patrol, patrol amd bandits get in a firefight, firefight is reported on the radio (depends) firefight ends in all sides dead, a lonely STALKER finds the aftermath and steals some bandages off a dead bandits corpse.
      Hundreds and thousands of encounters like the one above can happen in just one or maybe 2 hours, it makes it so that every player has a different playthrough, and it makes the world feel alive.

    • @homeopathicfossil-fuels4789
      @homeopathicfossil-fuels4789 Před 9 měsíci +6

      The weird mutant things are the actual ecosystem, they hunt and get hunted, have distinct social behaviors, day/night behavior changes. I learned not to fear the pig things, but rather the predator that drove them towards my direction in a panicked stampede, when they are this tough and already aggressive

  • @tristandaries1129
    @tristandaries1129 Před 9 měsíci +97

    The thing I love most about Minecraft is the sense of growth in power, a lot of games end with the main character either not changing at all or slightly growing, but in Minecraft, you go from taking a day or more to build a house to being a dimension hoping travel looking to slay a dragon

    • @Nachtschicht1
      @Nachtschicht1 Před 8 měsíci +11

      If you like the sense of growth, you should try Kenshi. You start as a weak nobody who can't even fight a baby goat, train your skills and hire comrades, until you run a whole town in the end or start wars against whole nations.

    • @9nikolai
      @9nikolai Před 7 měsíci +10

      @@Nachtschicht1 Or Spore where you start as a tiny cell in the ocean and end as a galactic empire.

    • @kenjixiong4566
      @kenjixiong4566 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Nachtschicht1 i love how i can make my own town in kenshi and start wars

    • @Ienteredmynamecorrectly-lt3nu
      @Ienteredmynamecorrectly-lt3nu Před 4 měsíci +1

      Terraria and Kenshi were already mentioned but they share a similar aspect.

    • @conan2650
      @conan2650 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Also how simple threats from the beginning are in the end. Especially when playing for the first time things like hunger or the night are a huge threat to you and exploring can be a big risk. But as you go on your get more interestet in shaping the environment to your own benefit instead of just surviving it.

  • @EchoYoutube
    @EchoYoutube Před 9 měsíci +20

    I loved the idea of “Free Guy” near the end where they had that entire ecosystem like how we do. Not just basic patterns, but specific multitudes of goals that each and every organism has to survive, continue, and eventually.. “learn”.
    The world could change, and you could do your thing or exist and tons of new stuff could be concepted and connected to create brand new things that affect the whole of how the world works.. and the more in depth and complex, the better.
    Like, when creatures see you walk across a bridge, they could try.. and depending what watches you, only those specific creatures could know. Then they could show their brothers and sisters, and they’ll learn too.

    • @clarencechurch4006
      @clarencechurch4006 Před 9 měsíci +1

      is this a game your talking about? i couldn't find it on steam

    • @EchoYoutube
      @EchoYoutube Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@clarencechurch4006 no it's a movie

  • @Whydoiexisthere-
    @Whydoiexisthere- Před 9 měsíci +54

    I’ve been playing rain world for a while now, but never got tired of it. The satisfaction of successfully killing a vulture and taking its mask, immediately destroyed by the sudden rumble of the clouds. At that moment, I couldn’t think anything else other than “run.” Past the fake poles, through the hordes of panicking lizards, and one final leap… too late. The rain had caught up. I was forced down the pit, stunning my ability to walk. The rain only built up more and more, until it was strong enough to speed straight past my feeble slug body.
    No matter how many times I’ve ragequit, this game is still etched into my heart.

  • @VividFire909
    @VividFire909 Před 9 měsíci +197

    Sky: Children of the Light does a great job of making you feel small in the Golden Wasteland. The walls tower over you, and the ruins of the Spirits’ civilization make you realize that you were never a part of this great thing that happened long ago, now crumbling into the sand. But the most effective part is the Krill. They are the first true danger you face in Sky, and they are a damn good one. The first one you see rips a manta out of the air with a deafening roar, and it instills in your brain that you are not welcome here. They’re so vast, rumbling menacingly as they hover past you, and they are honestly the most terrifying part of the game.
    Other parts that make you feel small include the windy area in the Starlight Desert, the Coliseum in the Valley of Triumph, the final few floors of the Vault of Knowledge, and beyond the Point of No Return in Eden.

    • @flameyoshi07
      @flameyoshi07 Před 9 měsíci +14

      Krill Vietnam flashbacks

    • @hanapinke
      @hanapinke Před 9 měsíci

      @@flameyoshi07lol

    • @glossyguts
      @glossyguts Před 9 měsíci +17

      honestly i really love sky:cotl so much. it kinda makes me sad that once you complete the story the only thing to really do is grind every day to collect cosmetics

    • @DrawciaLu2
      @DrawciaLu2 Před 9 měsíci +8

      love sky cotl sad that the rest of the game is kinda boring and bad but when u start is so fun to explore etc after is just countless hours and days farming for limited things dropped the game 5 months after

    • @oo8962
      @oo8962 Před 9 měsíci +7

      I've been playing for years and the krill roar still terrifies me. I'd rather skip quests than face the krill.

  • @AnnothArt
    @AnnothArt Před 9 měsíci +62

    The Isle fits the theme perfectly here. Nothing makes you feel small and insignificant in the environment, when you spend a few hard hours fighting for life, water, food, hoping to create a new generation ... only to have a huge Deinosuchus bite you while you drink calmly from the river. Beautiful!

  • @keenanflagg6942
    @keenanflagg6942 Před 9 měsíci +22

    I think Stray fits nicely here. You’re literally just a cat and while your actions definitely irreparably alter the world, you always remain just a cat doing cat things and trying to survive.

    • @rateeightx
      @rateeightx Před 2 dny

      That's pretty realistic, Cats are also just Cats despite having the ability to irreparably alter the world.

  • @brotimes7879
    @brotimes7879 Před 9 měsíci +58

    One great game that emphasizes this kind of insignificance is “The Final Station” In which you play as a train conductor living through an apocalypse in a low sci-fi world. The story is great and the gameplay itself can be spooky but the glimpses you get of the bigger picture are something else entirely. Would highly recommend to anyone who likes the vibe.

  • @windex3154
    @windex3154 Před 9 měsíci +116

    You should do a list of all your favorite speculative biology projects and explaining them

  • @EzraTheElusive
    @EzraTheElusive Před 9 měsíci +12

    I haven't seen Gibbon: Beyond the Trees talked about anywhere else that I've browsed, so seeing it here made my night. Given my college education focus, this game captured my heart and mind alike from the first time I played. It tells such an intense story through such a simplified manner, and I think that's beautiful.

  • @simbakissa8659
    @simbakissa8659 Před 9 měsíci +11

    A game that makes me feel like a part of an ecosystem is The Long Dark. If you don't know the game it's a quite open wirld survival game set in the Canadian winter. You need to gather resources and hunt animals to survive. Unlike other survival games it doesn't rely on base building but rather just staying alive. Definitely my favorite survival game.

  • @Train_lizard
    @Train_lizard Před 9 měsíci +7

    Believe it or not, a game I found *suprisingly on Roblox* called “prior extinction” really sets you into the ecosystem. Unlike other survival games of it’s genre, you will have to worry about your dinosaur’s energy, cleanliness, temperature, social, and nutrition stats, instead of the typical food, water, and occasionally sleep. In most situations you have to communicate through body language since chatting can make noise, attracting unwanted visitors, and you also have to have a powerful knowledge of how to find certain plants, navigation without any UI map, and finding out how to hide from larger predators properly.
    There was a moment where I was playing as a Jianchangosarus and just barely managed to escape into a small log, where my attackers waited just outside for what seemed like forever. Something every player must remember is that every creature in the world around you has about as much intelligence as you. Instead of AI you will have to hunt and hide from other people, which also means your threats can be generally unpredictable.

  • @SeveralGnomes
    @SeveralGnomes Před 9 měsíci +56

    I don't remember the last time I felt so focused on a video - I usually just put a video to play on the background while I do something else. But I ended watching this video in its entirety, not even glancing at my phone in the middle of it. I will definitely have to check Planet of Lana out, it looks so beautiful.

    • @iMatterhorn7
      @iMatterhorn7 Před 9 měsíci +4

      His other video essays will do that too, not sure if it's your thing but here's a few other channels I find are similarly as engaging as this one: Kiro Talks, Going Indie, Nerdstalgic, LayeinZ (that last one is just a funny retro gamer, but his jokes are really funny). If I think of any others, I'll edit them in.

    • @SeveralGnomes
      @SeveralGnomes Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@iMatterhorn7 Thanks for the suggestions, I'll make sure to check them out! ☺

    • @dinoloveremu
      @dinoloveremu Před 9 měsíci +3

      Planet of Lana is fun and beautiful, it kind of reminded me of FAR lone sails and changing tides

  • @Korreltjuh
    @Korreltjuh Před 8 měsíci +8

    Ancestors: The humankind odyssey should definitely be on this list, your main goal is to provide for your clan and unlock knowledge for future generations, there's just something about seeing that ape you played as for so long dead on the floor and being able to continue their story playing as their grandchild, definitely reccomend

  • @utfofuo4468
    @utfofuo4468 Před 9 měsíci +2

    "the ethernal cylinder" is one of THE BEST games I`ve ever played, and i`m surprised it isnt on this list... the game makes you feel like a tiny dot who doesent know if you can even change things for the better or not. The game itself remembers you that you are a really small and fragile creature, but that you have to keep going even tho you r the prey

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 Před 9 měsíci +61

    2:57 I'm an arachnophobe, and even I can't help but find a great deal of amusement in the mental image of an actual spider failing to spider this spectacularly.

  • @syrathdouglas1244
    @syrathdouglas1244 Před 9 měsíci +155

    Please do a bit on The Eternal Cylinder! It’s got a cool bit of biomechanical creatures towards the end!

  • @toubi4316
    @toubi4316 Před 9 měsíci +10

    Something I noticed about Planet of Lana was the fact that the local beings truly come in all shapes and sizes, from the tiny (and adorable) creature that hid under a rock, to the towering mechanical behemoths.

  • @rynaro88
    @rynaro88 Před 9 měsíci +3

    im surprised kenshi is not here. It exemplifies this idea the best. In kenshi, you are no hero: you are just another struggler in a dying world.

  • @Elysium4
    @Elysium4 Před 9 měsíci +39

    This channel is what prompted me to start collecting books on speculative biology. The greatest problem though is when there's an incredible world to explore and no book to go with it to me. So thanks, Curious Archive, for you truly have sparked my curiosity, and by extension, my imagination.

    • @ASpaceOstrich
      @ASpaceOstrich Před 9 měsíci +8

      MIght I suggest Unnatural History Channel? They do ecology videos usually focusing on the monsters from Monster Hunter.

    • @Elysium4
      @Elysium4 Před 9 měsíci +4

      @@ASpaceOstrich thanks for the recommendation. I'll be sure to check it out.

  • @dashfire3185
    @dashfire3185 Před 9 měsíci +23

    I don't know why but I love this kind of game, just participating in the ecosystem with minimal effect on it, for some reason it kind of puts me at ease

  • @justanerd4462
    @justanerd4462 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Gibbon and at least the start of Endling reminded me of an old flash game, Dino Run. You're a small dinosaur (maybe a raptor of some kind?) outrunning a pyroclastic wall of doom brought by the asteroid impact.
    While the game has collectables like food and eggs for score, the world is mostly indifferent to you. Other dinosaurs run back and fourth in a frenzy and can easily get in your way. Sometimes pterosaurs can pick you up and carry you for a while, but that's about it.
    Should you not be fast enough, the view turns red and black as the wall of doom approaches, which was outright terrifying for everyone who played it as a child. It's not quite an instant death as you might still be able to outrun it, but once the screen gets fully covered in black, you're doomed.

    • @kristym8641
      @kristym8641 Před 7 měsíci

      I know that game! I still play it online sometimes. The devs are working on a sequel too, which looks good so far!

  • @MarquisDeSang
    @MarquisDeSang Před 9 měsíci +14

    All EA and Ubisoft games make me feel disrespected and unimportant.

  • @rain12723
    @rain12723 Před 9 měsíci +21

    hoping rain world is on this
    EDIT: I LOVE RAIN WORLD!!!!!

    • @meowslabs4342
      @meowslabs4342 Před 9 měsíci +6

      rain world is undoubtedly the best ecosystem sim game ive seen

    • @elliotbenjamin7420
      @elliotbenjamin7420 Před 9 měsíci

      @@meowslabs4342 yessir

    • @elliotbenjamin7420
      @elliotbenjamin7420 Před 9 měsíci +1

      they already made a FULL video for Rain World: Downpour ONLY, that's how good it is

    • @Slferon
      @Slferon Před 9 měsíci

      RAIN WORLDING!!11!!!1

    • @gamingcookiereal
      @gamingcookiereal Před 7 měsíci +1

      I LOVE RAIN WORLD!!!!!

  • @confusedturtle183
    @confusedturtle183 Před 9 měsíci +6

    Holy shit I love this channel so much. I've stopped consuming youtube like I used to for the past 10 years, at times mindlessly and automatically staring at the screen for more than half the hours I'm awake. I'm subscribed to more than 2000 channels and have surely watched over 10 000 hours of content.
    Recently I've been putting in the effort and have found myself in a much healthier place, hardly watching a couple videos per week. I've debated if I should leave youtube behind completely or if I should just transform the way I approach it, and at the moment I only have the notifications on for about a dozen channels, the very best of the best - that I have handpicked for myself based on how much value it provides for me and how much the channels are aligned with the kind of person I'm slowly but surely am becoming.
    And yea, not having commented much on here I just wanted to say that I'm very happy with what I get from you every time I come here. This time is no different.

  • @mvovo8698
    @mvovo8698 Před 9 měsíci +3

    You should check out Voidtrain, maybe not any top tier game but there are moments that make you feel like you're too small for this world, like the dangerous "Void Sharks" that you kill are nothing more than ants.

  • @tired_introvert6299
    @tired_introvert6299 Před 5 měsíci +2

    WolfQuest is really cool also, though it doesn't have its own ecosystem, you just play as a wolf in yellowstone. There are rabbits, coyotes, foxes, bears, ungulates, other wolves, birds, even fish that you can find dropped on the ground. You learn how to claim territory and court other wolves, as well as how to hunt all the different types of prey and how to scare off each competitor. You also have pups and the competitors come and try to take your pups, either to eat them or to just kill further competition. Carcasses can be found or marked and competitors are drawn to them also. There are even herd mechanics for the ungulates. If you haven't checked it out already you really should, it's an awesome game and the team works really hard on it, and they're really amazing people.
    edit: there is also an ironwolf version, which you can only play on harder difficulties. you have to think about when to hunt, what to hunt, and how much health you're willing to lose before you give up. and sometimes, you get so immersed in the hunt that you forget about what's even outside the game

  • @BrokenBluebird6
    @BrokenBluebird6 Před 9 měsíci +9

    My dad used to tell me the same thing the thumbnail says all the time. Nostalgic ^^

  • @Mr4IsEntertainment
    @Mr4IsEntertainment Před 9 měsíci +5

    Although sparse in terms of living entities, Journey's backdrops were tear-jerking

  • @catpoke9557
    @catpoke9557 Před 9 měsíci +4

    I love games that make you intuitively learn things like Land of Lana, Inside, and Rain World. It's my favorite type of gameplay ever, I think

  • @nessness6594
    @nessness6594 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I'm so glad you featured the Ori games even if just briefly. It's one of my most favourite games thanks to its amazing environment and world building, gameplay and soundtrack.

  • @JossOwX
    @JossOwX Před 9 měsíci +21

    Rain World is the most perfect game for this video.
    What an amazing game

    • @Poopenfarden
      @Poopenfarden Před 9 měsíci +2

      Rainworld: the game where you watch lantern nice get eaten alive and be strangled by fake poles while a king vulture attacks you

  • @vollied4865
    @vollied4865 Před 9 měsíci +24

    Definitely one of my favorite CZcams channels, no matter the wait be it a few days or few weeks or exc I always look forward to CA

  • @b0hannon661
    @b0hannon661 Před 9 měsíci +6

    The Long Dark is so hostile to the player, it definitely forces you to respect the game’s ecosystem.

  • @BierBart12
    @BierBart12 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I love this concept in every form. From being a prey animal to being one unimportant soldier in a war, instead of some hero figure with plot armor.
    I still hope to someday see a game where you play a worker ant or a 40k Guardsman.. or rather many, as your character will never live for long. I also love things like Viscera Cleanup Detail where you're just seeing/dealing with the aftermath of what the "heroes" were doing.

  • @Anky22
    @Anky22 Před 9 měsíci +8

    some of these games remind me of games like Little Nightmares 1 + 2, Limbo, and Inside. you should check them out and maybe review them if you like them

  • @appalachiabrauchfrau
    @appalachiabrauchfrau Před 9 měsíci +8

    To go with Endling I think the Shelter games do a good job of what you're describing. Maybe not the most recent one, or Paws, but shelter 1 and 2 definitely accomplish it.

  • @CommunistSubRex
    @CommunistSubRex Před 9 měsíci +3

    this is why i play rainworld, i still haven't even beaten it I just adore being a part of it's world.

  • @otherperson
    @otherperson Před 8 měsíci +1

    Really fantastic structure to this video. You could have simply gone through a list of games, one after the other. But instead it has a thematic arc that allowed for the individuality of each game to shine while emphasizing the themes that unite them.

  • @pedrom.8525
    @pedrom.8525 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Another game that did something very similar to this feeling you expressed about planet of lana is Abe's Odyssey (1997). In this story, a certain planet's natives were enslaved by invaders. You play as Abe, an slave in a meat processing factory. Some dangerous animals on this world are considered sacred by the natives, so you can't kill them directly and have to learn their behavior to avoid/outrun them. I always thought that it's a brilliant game design and really made me felt as a part of the planet's ecosystem

    • @VexxThePrecursor07
      @VexxThePrecursor07 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Oh Abe's Oddysee. My favorite game, glad someone knows about it too. It's just a really good classic.

    • @pedrom.8525
      @pedrom.8525 Před 7 měsíci

      Yeah, I also have the impression I am the only person on the planet to know about the game lol. It's a classic indeed, I played the remake recently and loved the experience. Played a bit of Soulstorm too but didn't finish it.

  • @roblox_bedwars_content
    @roblox_bedwars_content Před 9 měsíci +65

    i love this channel. seriously amazing work that intoduced me to the world of speculative biology. i have remained hooked ever since.

  • @davidhauks
    @davidhauks Před 9 měsíci +2

    Kenshi could have been mentioned here. That game has a world that is amazing to Explore

  • @thatguywhoanimids
    @thatguywhoanimids Před 8 měsíci +5

    I think spore is a good example of making you apart of its ecosystem. Especially in the first two stages

  • @CMichaelEH
    @CMichaelEH Před 9 měsíci +7

    i'd love to see more about this. this was my favorite video of your maybe ever. i'm really fascinated by the kind of bright-sky version of Lovecraftian insignificance of being lower on the foodchain and also in the idea that the goal isn't to conquer nature in these games

  • @brother_sothoth
    @brother_sothoth Před 9 měsíci +12

    CA, you have to be one of my favourite CZcamsrs. Every video you make inteigues me and captures me from the get-go and is always so interesting to watch. I first found you from your Rain World video, which introduced me to Rain World - a game I now love. So thank you. If you ever made a patreon I'd gladly become a patron.

  • @fabiomorandi3585
    @fabiomorandi3585 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Endling is actually even more grimdark than it appears at first glance. According to the game's lore, the vixen acting as the protagonist was the very last of her kind before giving birth, which goes to show the extent of the damage done to the in-game ecosystem considering she's a red fox, a species which nowadays is still plentiful in its native range and has become invasive in Australia, meaning that even if her kits survive the species is going to meet its end soon, either at their death, if they were all the same gender, or a few generations later due to inbreeding.

  • @doodlemunchkin2222
    @doodlemunchkin2222 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I think WolfQuest Anniversary Edition really needs its due props in this department, but I’ve never seen anyone mention it when conversations like this come up. And I’ve always thought that was weird.
    The original game has been around since 2007, on the sole mission to make the player feel emerged in daily life as a wild animal and respect all they have to do to survive-forcing you to think and work in their perspective in order to fully succeed. That’s literally it. That’s the goal. And it’s only been improving the realism of the ecosystem and interactions since then.
    With what they’ve managed to replicate in the newest version, and with how humble and hard working the devs have been with hiking places in Yellowstone National Park themselves to research and regularly talking with the Wolf Conservation Center to get everything right…in my opinion I think it definitely deserves a spot in the conversation by now.

  • @averagescandinavian9451
    @averagescandinavian9451 Před 9 měsíci +7

    your videos are always so thought provoking. every time i watch one i'm left in awe, you never cease to make me think through new and exciting lenses. you educate on important societal topics whilst being very entertaining to watch. you're hands down my favorite channel on youtube

  • @prototypelq8574
    @prototypelq8574 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Another beautiful essay for the Archive) Thank you for your wonderful work, as always)
    An essay-channel Arcane Workshop recently made a hour-long video about Endling, and it was..utterly heartbreaking to say the least.
    Thank you for featuring Webbed as well! It's a very cozy but fun arcade puzzle game, and it haven't seen much light after the release.
    You might be interested in looking into Toki Tori 2, from my understanding, it's a game where the main character also has to learn the rules other creatures live by to progress.
    Another game that makes you feel...very insignificant but in a universe is a beautiful and vast place way is Outer Wilds, though it doesn't have much to say in terms so biology, so it probably won't really fit into this channel, but I can try.

  • @encr123
    @encr123 Před 9 měsíci +2

    You should try making a video on In Other Waters. Has a fully fleshed out alien ecosystem with different biomes and stuff, along with pictures/sketches if you have the pdf dlc. Is on sale rn for 5$

  • @elcachor2572
    @elcachor2572 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Eco has got to be the best example of a game where you feel as part of the ecosystem, as it is a simulation where every single one of your actions will impact the environment in a certain way, be it cutting a tree or killing an elk for food

  • @aaronatkinson177
    @aaronatkinson177 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Hollow knight and ori both do a great job of making you feel like you're part of their world's 😊❤ oh I almost forgot about little nightmares limbo inside and bramble the mountain king 🤴 👏

  • @D4rw1N
    @D4rw1N Před 8 měsíci +3

    1:55 hey that's me

  • @carimeslockdownedtree2654
    @carimeslockdownedtree2654 Před 2 měsíci

    The Endling description had me nearly in tears. I barely held them back because im in public. Wow. Of all things... The simple start had me about to cry.

  • @anevergreyforest
    @anevergreyforest Před 9 měsíci +6

    Curious Archive needs to play The Outer Wilds. No other game made me feel like more like an explorer or witness to greater events.

  • @Graphomite
    @Graphomite Před 9 měsíci +5

    Phenominal video. The pacing was, as usual, very well done.

  • @197inch3wheelelectricforklift

    When I saw the first few seconds of the video, I legitimately thought it was an ad. The feeling professionalism that I felt when I saw CA appear like a logo for a news channel was actually pretty cool.

  • @marcosreynoso3901
    @marcosreynoso3901 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I used to have the game of Avatar, the movie ,and it's an immersive one too. It also makes you interact with the ecosystems of Pandora ( the jungle biome) like in the movie. I love this kind of games.

  • @SAmaryllis
    @SAmaryllis Před 9 měsíci +10

    I'm so pleased with the burst of indie games these past few years. Planet of Lana's sunrise sequence was breathtaking, and it was wonderful to see gameplay for Endling and Gibbon!

  • @JustMe-hy1kh
    @JustMe-hy1kh Před 9 měsíci +4

    I don’t know why but this video almost made me cry, I love your work so much thank you for the amazing content❤

  • @ThePsh07
    @ThePsh07 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I always end up wishlisting a handful of new games from these videos you do. You’ve got great taste, and artistry in your videos as well. 👌

  • @leonasceramics
    @leonasceramics Před 8 měsíci +1

    Your reflexions brought me to some of the most meaningful moments of my life at 8:20, those moments where I didn't feel like "me" but as a part of everything that existed, and deeply moved me around 19:00. Thank you for such honest words.

  • @serkan978
    @serkan978 Před 9 měsíci +6

    great video!!
    i wish there were more games that just make you part of an ecosystem or a system as 8n society
    like an actual survival game

    • @andrewhooper7603
      @andrewhooper7603 Před 9 měsíci +1

      There was a survival game where you were homeless I watched a LP of a few months ago, but I forget what it was called...

  • @slugfishh
    @slugfishh Před 9 měsíci +3

    was so surprised to not see rainworld in here lol! it literally does this probably the best :D after 2 years it is still my favorite game ever

  • @sayLeotardbutsayitChinese
    @sayLeotardbutsayitChinese Před 8 měsíci +1

    The thing I loved about Horizon is that no matter how much more powerful you get, the machines still look at you the same. You're still just a little insignificant thing to them, not even worth bothering over for some, and certainly not a threat. You have to develop the skill and know-how to take them down and by the end the world feels completely different because you've actually become a part of it. In reality the machines haven't changed at all.
    And they can still wreck you if you slip up even one dodge

    • @sayLeotardbutsayitChinese
      @sayLeotardbutsayitChinese Před 8 měsíci

      Also, for anyone who enjoys these games (especially Planet of Lana) check out The Electric State

  • @Donglator
    @Donglator Před 9 měsíci +1

    Ending was one of, if not the only games to make me genuinely dread pressing the continue button due to how stressful it is to feed your cubs, progress the story, avoid humans and dangerous animals and also get back home before dark

  • @futuristica1710
    @futuristica1710 Před 9 měsíci +6

    Great content as always ❤

  • @Matters-
    @Matters- Před 9 měsíci +4

    No matter what, Curious Archive always makes a spectacular video.
    Also:
    OMG HIII

  • @trixie7759
    @trixie7759 Před 7 měsíci

    A part of a game that defo made me feel like this was when you attempt to go out of bounds in Dredge, slowly larger and larger creatures will breach the surface, going about their own buisness until one crashes into you, sending you into the depths with it

  • @dinoloveremu
    @dinoloveremu Před 9 měsíci +1

    I think this is my favourite one of your videos yet. I loved planet of Lana, and I also think you might like to read some of headspace-hotel’s thoughts on tumblr about the ecosystem and humans as a part of it

  • @camerontokes2469
    @camerontokes2469 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Spore could've done this perfectly until EA turned it into a lego RPG😒

  • @lurker668
    @lurker668 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Does Planet of Lana have any inspiration from games like Another World or Flashbacks?

  • @SpinyBadger
    @SpinyBadger Před 8 měsíci +2

    I loved everything about Planet of Lana, except its relatively brief duration. More please!

  • @rozlekoncan7657
    @rozlekoncan7657 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Wonderfull keep uploading

  • @mc_va
    @mc_va Před 9 měsíci +3

    @Curious Archive, thank to your Rain World recommendation I discovered an AMAZING game, omg i could never thank you enough! Long live slugcats ฅ⁠^⁠•⁠ﻌ⁠•⁠^⁠ฅ

  • @gingerbeargames
    @gingerbeargames Před 9 měsíci +1

    xenoblade x is one that always hits me as being insignificant in a massive world, the sheer scale of the world is something i haven't seen in another game. It also helps that the game requires you to explore and map out the world so you are forced to contend with the environment.

  • @oceansalliteration0419
    @oceansalliteration0419 Před 8 měsíci

    These game’s really capture a phrase I read recently that has stuck with me for a bit.
    “And we bask in our Cosmic Insignificance”

  • @chiliagon_bu
    @chiliagon_bu Před 9 měsíci +3

    you videos inspire me a lot. thanks

  • @victoreftiriu7713
    @victoreftiriu7713 Před 9 měsíci +14

    not mentioning rain world here feels like a crime

  • @XldemonbloodlX
    @XldemonbloodlX Před 9 měsíci +1

    I'd love to see you do a video on The Forest and Sons of the Forest.
    The introduction to enemy elements in that game is fantastic, starting with wary natives, watching from a distance until oh wait they want to eat me and are attacking as a group. And as soon as you start to get comfortable with people wanting to eat you, well, that's when you start seeing the cave mutations....
    Also a healthy respect for seasons in Sons, with salmon that run upstream, to scarce winters where you look even tastier.
    Even without playing along with the story elements, the environment does a great job of feeling alive.

  • @graveleater9746
    @graveleater9746 Před 9 měsíci

    The swamp area in the Underrail DLC does this super well. You ride a jetski through the first few zones, but you're very quickly forced to leave your vehiclw and continue on foot. At the beginning you might try to defend yourself from the hostile wildlife, but youll quickly realize how impossible that is as you go deeper and the density of their populations increases, seemingly without end. Pretty quickly you'll find yourself sneaking or fleeing through each screen as you realize that this is most definitely NOT your environment and attempting to bend it to your will proves futile time and again. This area gave me chills with how powerless it made me and my character, who, up until then, had been using psychic abilities to mulch everything in his way, feel. Very rarely does a video game tell you "this environment is not crafted for you to play in, it's crafted for you to barely survive or simply stay out.

  • @drintrovert4564
    @drintrovert4564 Před 9 měsíci

    scorn fits this well, quiet literally the trailer says that every creature is happiest when left alone. it takes you out of that protagonist mindset and puts you in a world without explanation, and he gameplay and environment enforce it

  • @tpd1864blake
    @tpd1864blake Před 8 měsíci

    I’ve never heard of a lot of these games. Thank you for expanding my wishlist by 8 or so items. This channel really has a way of expanding my knowledge of video games

  • @blueboyart6546
    @blueboyart6546 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Plannet of Lana honestly reminds me of an old game i found named summer catchers
    I probably wouldn't recommend to try it due to it's gameplay being kinda limited but it does give me the feeling of the environment planet of lana gives
    Great world building
    Pretty awesome for an old game

  • @abiotic_sloth1768
    @abiotic_sloth1768 Před 9 měsíci

    This was a beautiful video and I absolutely will check out some of these indie games. It's dissapointing how games with such beautiful messages like this aren't in the mainstream. It's no coincidence that a lot of these games talk about destruction and environmental damage caused by humans. It's upsetting how many of us don't listen.

  • @ASpaceOstrich
    @ASpaceOstrich Před 9 měsíci +1

    I've been studying ecology recently, mostly through watching the Unnatural History Channels videos on ecology as related to Monster Hunter, and it brought back a concept thats occurred to me a bunch of times in the past. Living within an ecosystem is the perfect setup for a survival game. It blows my mind that this isn't a subgenre of games unto itself. There are survival games, but the vast majority are crafting survival games and theres almost always some extra factor involved, usually hostile human raiders or the like. It's crazy to me how there aren't games which are just "you're a creature in an ecosystem, good luck". Even games like Rain World which sort of have that setup don't really do it, as the Slugcat in Rainworld is clearly not actually part of the ecosystem, being the only one of its kind and having fallen to the playable area from its actual natural habitat. Rainworld also throws in a meta goal that detracts from the ecosystem survival aspects.

  • @toraktech8731
    @toraktech8731 Před 8 měsíci

    that Webbed game reminds of me Reflexive Studios' Wik and The Fable of Souls. it has neat tongue swinging mechanics and really realistic textures. i love it!