Porsche Reinvents The Brake Rotor - No Rust, Low Dust, No Fade!

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 16. 06. 2020
  • Porsche Surface Coated Brakes (PSCB) are a brilliant new brake technology.
    Recommended Books & Car Products - amzn.to/2BrekJm
    Subscribe for new videos every Wednesday! - goo.gl/VZstk7
    Porsche Surface Coated Brakes have a thin layer of tungsten carbide on the outside of the rotor. This tungsten carbide layer means no rust, significantly less brake dust, and they don't have brake fade typical of cast-iron brake rotors. The tungsten carbide layer is applied using high velocity oxygen fuel spray, and provides a rotor that lasts about 30% longer than traditional iron rotors. Better performance comes at a price, but they're about 1/3 the cost of carbon ceramic rotors. These PSCB rotors come standard on the Porsche Cayenne Turbo and Cayenne Coupe Turbo. Check out the video to learn all about Porsche's world-first brakes!
    Engineering Explained is a participant in the Amazon Influencer Program.
    Don't forget to check out my other pages below!
    Facebook: / engineeringexplained
    Official Website: www.howdoesacarwork.com
    Twitter: / jasonfenske13
    Instagram: / engineeringexplained
    Car Throttle: www.carthrottle.com/user/engi...
    Amazon: www.amazon.com/shop/engineeri...
    EE Extra: / @engineeringexplainede...
    NEW VIDEO EVERY WEDNESDAY!
  • Auta a dopravní prostředky

Komentáře • 4,8K

  • @the_perigoso
    @the_perigoso Před 4 lety +4104

    I'm an 11 on Mohs hardness scale after you pull out the whiteboard

  • @robmonthie9948
    @robmonthie9948 Před 4 lety +737

    “Engineers have no feelings, so no feelings were hurt.” Truest statement ever uttered!!!

    • @THEGAMINGHELP101
      @THEGAMINGHELP101 Před 4 lety +39

      As an engineer I can assure you there are plenty of bad engineers and scientists. Don't trust them all.

    • @THELOWBACKPAIN
      @THELOWBACKPAIN Před 4 lety +11

      Tell that to the prima donnas at my work places lol

    • @akadoublea
      @akadoublea Před 4 lety +9

      @humandxp nope. Empathy is the logical conclusion to a mental equation that replaces x=them with x=me

    • @sheshd
      @sheshd Před 4 lety +2

      Not only that. You will be amazed at the responses you'll get returned. If you wanna get ripped a new one, go argue with an engineer! Aussie engineering school was honestly one of the most hilarious experiences of my life!

    • @robosullivan704
      @robosullivan704 Před 4 lety +1

      @@THEGAMINGHELP101 As an engineer, I totally agree

  • @kittenisageek
    @kittenisageek Před 3 lety +739

    Loved the "They didn't realize engineers don't have feelings" line. I once took a psych class titled "Introduction to Personality." The professor was getting frustrated because this particular class was very quiet and not really responsive. From the front of the class he said, "Come on! Let your personalities show!" I slowly raised my hand and glanced around nervously, but.. when he called on me I said, "We're engineers, sir. We're here to learn what personality is."

  • @popdansergiu6598
    @popdansergiu6598 Před 3 lety +596

    Now I know why people with Porsche never brake in traffic, it is too expensive.

    • @stijnvandamme76
      @stijnvandamme76 Před 2 lety +48

      Braking is not fuel efficient. I hate it, it contradicts my goal of getting somewhere fast

    • @kaefunq
      @kaefunq Před rokem +36

      It's because they don't need to slow down for turns and you need to get out of the left lane.

    • @pault6347
      @pault6347 Před rokem

      @stijnvandamme76 EXACTLY 😂😂😂

    • @JL-gg7ph
      @JL-gg7ph Před 11 měsíci +3

      The other way around....No they ride the brakes because they have too much power for civilian roads, and the aged owners get scared that the vehicle is moving too fast. These cars' potentials are wasted on most of the owners.

    • @harryh536
      @harryh536 Před 10 měsíci +3

      ​@@JL-gg7phwe don't buy cars to do what they can do, we buy cars to be happy knowing what they can do😊

  • @torontodriving
    @torontodriving Před 4 lety +3782

    Thumbs up for "Engineers don't have feelings, so no feelings were hurt" XD

    • @evalonious
      @evalonious Před 4 lety +1

      Yes! Mini Brent Spinner!

    • @boleycs
      @boleycs Před 4 lety +18

      Thumbs up, realistic response to 32k brakes!

    • @stuartlongden2415
      @stuartlongden2415 Před 4 lety +86

      It reminds me of one of my favourite engineer jokes, An optomist sees a glass that is half full, a pessimist sees a glass that is half empty, an engineer sees a glass that has been overspecified by a factor of 2.

    • @kBitre
      @kBitre Před 4 lety +6

      sound logic has no remorse but the uneducated nannies should feel bad but they have no shame unless it's their peers

    • @knumbrrr6146
      @knumbrrr6146 Před 4 lety +1

      Eisan= 0 feelings :)

  • @HartyBiker
    @HartyBiker Před 4 lety +640

    Jason: Uses hammer to measure length.
    Me: "Ahh, I see you went to the Jeremy Clarkson school of engineering"

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Před 4 lety +178

      If it can't be fixed with a hammer, it's too complicated for me to understand!

    • @aidanapword
      @aidanapword Před 4 lety +38

      You nailed it right there. Ah no, sorry... I am being a bit of a tool.

    • @ErebosGR
      @ErebosGR Před 4 lety +8

      Should've used a banana. A hammer's length is too ambiguous.
      /s

    • @simontist
      @simontist Před 4 lety +5

      Clarkson actually has an (honorary) doctorate in engineering if you can believe it.

    • @roy04
      @roy04 Před 4 lety +7

      Meanwhile May is still organizing his tools

  • @gwot
    @gwot Před 4 lety +141

    When I worked at a Jaguar dealer, we had a customer that tracks his F-type, for fun not competitively. He changed his pads and rotors 3 times due to wearing them down on track in just a few years... they were carbon ceramic brakes, and surprisingly they're the same price as Porsche's! he basically paid for the car again, but this time just in brakes. I think it would be cheaper to take a hit on depreciation and just trade in the car for a new one than to replace carbon ceramic brakes

    • @stephensheppard3501
      @stephensheppard3501 Před 3 lety +3

      @420 Friendly they are more concerned with selling new cars than worrying about repair of used cars, they also would not be paying that price for the repair anyways.

    • @subscribeowikd3336
      @subscribeowikd3336 Před 3 lety

      Lol

    • @gwot
      @gwot Před 3 lety

      @420 Friendly I wasn't in sales, reasons unknown to me, we check the cars for maintenance stuff after buying them, the used car dept pays for brakes/tires all the time.

    • @gwot
      @gwot Před 3 lety +3

      @@stephensheppard3501 we do pay close to that actually, the mechanics still get paid the same amount, and our cost was only like 2k less than retail

    • @dbclass4075
      @dbclass4075 Před rokem +3

      Due to that, some owners swap the pads to steel and then reinstall the original pads when it is time to sell the vehicle.

  • @CraftAero
    @CraftAero Před 4 lety +77

    “Engineers don’t have feelings”
    I've been telling people this for YEARS,
    "I'm not broken, I'm an Engineer."

  • @miffedmax
    @miffedmax Před 4 lety +626

    Jason will develop the first white board brakes. They will cost $20.00 and outperform carbon ceramics.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Před 4 lety +170

      Plus, you can color on them!

    • @generaldistrust
      @generaldistrust Před 4 lety +5

      the *true* "WhiteBrakes"

    • @nicholaslau3194
      @nicholaslau3194 Před 4 lety +15

      @@EngineeringExplained too bad the color becomes white every time you brake

    • @aidanapword
      @aidanapword Před 4 lety +18

      @@nicholaslau3194 ah finally... Now I understand what brake-fade actually is then!

    • @tamerabk8925
      @tamerabk8925 Před 4 lety +6

      @@EngineeringExplained I want to see a video explaining wether or not whiteboard brakes are possible and if they are possible how good would they be, yall agree?

  • @jakobwest4811
    @jakobwest4811 Před 4 lety +493

    Those carbon ceramics cost more than my whole car to change.

    • @technobrend0
      @technobrend0 Před 4 lety +62

      32k could put you into a decent used Porsche too!

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Před 4 lety +124

      Same haha, more than my Crosstrek or my MX-5 new, or both of them combined at present value. 😳

    • @mutechipmunk4825
      @mutechipmunk4825 Před 4 lety +33

      Honey my brakes are squealing!
      Don't worry babe, just go down to the dealer and pick a new one out!

    • @Jackinacox
      @Jackinacox Před 4 lety +5

      And not a crappy car either!

    • @marcd7332
      @marcd7332 Před 4 lety +2

      Brendan Yup, you can get a 2015 macan for 20k

  • @friendslovecars
    @friendslovecars Před 3 lety +106

    “That’s a level of baller I cannot comprehend” 💀💀

    • @HekiShavik
      @HekiShavik Před 3 lety +1

      Hah, yeah, I liked that one too :D

  • @threedot141
    @threedot141 Před 3 lety +44

    This technology was used on bicycle rims for many years by a company called Rigida (renamed to Ryde). Their rims were called CSS (Cardbide SuperSonic - indicating the processes by which the tungsten carbide was applied to the aluminium rims. The wear rate was very low and the rims lasted much longer than normal aluminium rims. They did however suffer from brake squeal and somewhat inconsistent wet weather performance.

    • @JL-gg7ph
      @JL-gg7ph Před 11 měsíci +2

      And nobody bought them because the performance and cost surpassed the need.

    • @themechanicaladvantage
      @themechanicaladvantage Před 11 měsíci +1

      Great example and quite funny, Thank you for sharing.

  • @ivanmontoya9774
    @ivanmontoya9774 Před 4 lety +564

    "How do you wake up in the morning?"
    me: 4:17

    • @damianpasfield4338
      @damianpasfield4338 Před 4 lety +14

      This needs more likes

    • @zefrum3
      @zefrum3 Před 4 lety +2

      Ha ha

    • @liberty744
      @liberty744 Před 4 lety +3

      😂 😂

    • @KvltKvnt
      @KvltKvnt Před 4 lety +17

      My guy that genuinely made me laugh. Thank you

    • @KvltKvnt
      @KvltKvnt Před 4 lety +7

      Who are you even replying to? No one is even talking about anything mechanical here at all

  • @INeedAttentionEXE
    @INeedAttentionEXE Před 4 lety +1834

    “Engineers don’t have feelings”
    They lost them in college getting their degree

    • @kevinnorris6558
      @kevinnorris6558 Před 4 lety +31

      Jokes on you, I ended up changing my major

    • @dantheman1337
      @dantheman1337 Před 4 lety +69

      Sex can wait, I want to be an engineer

    • @Legend_Hunter_Original
      @Legend_Hunter_Original Před 4 lety +17

      @@dantheman1337 @Dan E Garner lol its harder than you think...trust me I just got done lol

    • @joeyphoshowey
      @joeyphoshowey Před 4 lety +33

      yeah. getting the degree is one challenge, getting a job and retaining it is another. School is the easy part. Engineering as a professional is tough work. Many of my friends graduated with engineering degrees and ended up getting jobs as contractors and engineering technicians. Had to work their way up into engineering positions.

    • @INeedAttentionEXE
      @INeedAttentionEXE Před 4 lety +18

      @@joeyphoshowey Still is a rude awakening with how much homework you have to do compared to high-school or other college paths... so I'm told.

  • @philtechGT3
    @philtechGT3 Před rokem +9

    Reaching 100.000km on my 2018 Porsche Cayenne S equipped with those PCBS brakes from factory and they still look like new (even with a lot of towing 2.2 tons). Disks look like new, brake pads are at approx 50%. I really like this technology

  • @dagandrefjeldstad3856
    @dagandrefjeldstad3856 Před 3 lety +22

    Lotus used Metal Matrix Composite (MMX) material for the brake disks on the 96' Elise. Mixing silica carbide into the aluminum gave the same hard surface. No wear, no dust, and excellent braking performance. The pad material attached itself to the rotor surface (a few micrometer thick), giving maximum adhesion friction, which you get if you have the same material on both surfaces. Material is constantly transferred between the disk and the pad back and forth during braking, resulting in the low wear of both pad and disk. The weight was as for aluminum, so very light compared to cast iron, reducing un-sprung mass. Aluminum conducts heat much better than cast iron and transfer the heat from the disk to the larger wheel mass and area. So temperature was about half of that for cast iron disks. Downsides were high production cost, and eventually metal fatigue issues from uneven thermal expansion of the different thickness of the boss and rotor when using such a hard and brittle material. Surface coating seems cheaper and better, except for the much higher mass of the brake disk with cast iron as base.

    • @mathiaskling6154
      @mathiaskling6154 Před 11 měsíci

      Came to the comments just looking for someone to mention Lotus MMC brakes. Thank you!

  • @GsRandom.
    @GsRandom. Před 4 lety +619

    "I'll put a white board anywhere" - Jason explaining aerodynamic mechanics while in a freefall during a parachute jump. 202X

    • @imyourmaster77
      @imyourmaster77 Před 4 lety +4

      Lets make it happen

    • @dadillen5902
      @dadillen5902 Před 4 lety

      That is one way to keep the presentation short.

    • @SniperReady
      @SniperReady Před 4 lety +1

      Wait until he gets an onlyfans

    • @PlXELPUNK
      @PlXELPUNK Před 4 lety

      @@SniperReady I've got $5 on it

    • @youkofoxy
      @youkofoxy Před 4 lety

      I was thinking: maybe he should throw a white board on his Miata.
      Imagine how much it would improve it's performance.

  • @Balomis
    @Balomis Před 4 lety +488

    "70% of brake dust actually comes from the rotors"
    I never would've guess that, I always assumed it was just the pads!
    Also, the best part about those price breakdowns, it that in 20 years when the Cayenne Turbo is worth like $10000 on the used market, the brakes will still cost $11000 to replace with OEM parts

    • @fuzzy1dk
      @fuzzy1dk Před 4 lety +64

      makes no sense that 70% would be from the rotors, the data showed was 1500x the wear on pads vs. rotors on thickness, the rotors are no where near 1500x the area of the pads

    • @truantray
      @truantray Před 4 lety +31

      Porsche says that. But his own data says pads wear 1500x greater than rotors, and dust comes from pads. Anyone knows dust difference between organic and semi metallic pads is huge.
      Also Porsche owners rarely buy their cars, they rent them, so they don't care about resale or any wear beyond 36-48 months.

    • @CED99
      @CED99 Před 4 lety +16

      Yes, if the pads wear 1500x the speed of the rotor, that's 1500 good reasons to expect the brake dust to be mainly pad

    • @Balomis
      @Balomis Před 4 lety +17

      @@truantray I think y'all misunderstood EE, that "1500x" metric is specifically about the tungsten carbide rotors and the pads designed for them. Typical rotors are cast iron and the pads eat away at them significantly faster.
      Metallic pads actually produce more dust because they remove more material from the rotors, which is a byproduct of the increased braking performance.

    • @fuzzy1dk
      @fuzzy1dk Před 4 lety +15

      @@Balomis the 1500x was for iron rotors

  • @mackenziefinnegan9160
    @mackenziefinnegan9160 Před 4 lety +4

    Love it! The last minute was greatly appreciated, you're the man

  • @sheamartin8786
    @sheamartin8786 Před 4 lety +111

    Those brakes cost more than all of the cars I've owned combined

    • @lanceuppercut6168
      @lanceuppercut6168 Před 3 lety +5

      Same haha! xD

    • @Sundara229
      @Sundara229 Před 3 lety +8

      Exactly. A good, reliable car doesnt have to cost much. Everything beyond "just doing its job" is pure luxury honestly.
      Blows my mind seeing teens and young adults spending all their earnings on a used Audi just to sell it 2-3 years later for next to nothing because they couldnt afford maintenance.

  • @snactimusmaximus
    @snactimusmaximus Před 4 lety +312

    “I’ll put a white board anywhere” : absolute madlad

  • @JohnGuzik
    @JohnGuzik Před 4 lety +248

    Cost is inversely proportional to dust.

    • @RDMracer
      @RDMracer Před 4 lety +4

      Better use that regen in the Taycan or you're gonna pay

    • @killer2600
      @killer2600 Před 4 lety +2

      Give me brake dust, at least then I can see where my money is going.

    • @DerSystematiker
      @DerSystematiker Před 4 lety

      No. Just look at ATE ceramic pads. Affordable and almost dust free.

  • @jimscimonetti1457
    @jimscimonetti1457 Před 3 lety +2

    Your videos are amazing. Thank you so much for making them. I appreciate your work and the way you explain this stuff.

  • @LetzHaveALook
    @LetzHaveALook Před 3 lety

    Weeks ago saw these on a Porsche and then looked different and special.
    Thanks for explaining.

  • @thatcopenguy
    @thatcopenguy Před 4 lety +163

    Imagine buying a 2nd hand Cayenne in 10 years for $32k and the dealer says the brakes need replacement...
    for another 32k lmao

    • @autotempest
      @autotempest Před 4 lety +7

      nbd - slap on a set of iron rotors and you're good

    • @smanzoli
      @smanzoli Před 4 lety +4

      NEVER EVER buy from the dealer... so much freat OEM parts all around, great quality, 10% of price

    • @thckitchen434
      @thckitchen434 Před 4 lety

      Ebay rotors for $150.... my wife aint tracking that lol

    • @briskan
      @briskan Před 4 lety +2

      You say thanks and head to your indie who uses FCPEuro lol

    • @TheJanvicgwaps
      @TheJanvicgwaps Před 4 lety

      Lmao

  • @marleybrown4554
    @marleybrown4554 Před 4 lety +517

    I like seasoning my cast iron rotors makes them last longer and I have a non stick surface

  • @artkaboom
    @artkaboom Před 3 lety

    Thank you, I watched because I wanted to learn about the new brakes and you did a great job! keep up the good work!

  • @justinmurray2515
    @justinmurray2515 Před 3 lety +13

    If someone called you an "engineer", that just means you've been too easy on us with the whiteboards recently! LOL

  • @F1fan4eva
    @F1fan4eva Před 4 lety +146

    "Engineers have no feelings, so no feelings were hurt."
    You need to put that on some merch and sell it, my man!

  • @Spiritdreams
    @Spiritdreams Před 4 lety +118

    So for carbon ceramic brakes, the replacement parts cost half of the price of a standard Porsche Cayenne, the car where the brake sits on. It is more cost effective to buy a brand new Cayenne and sell your old one than replacing the brakes.

    • @404nobrakes
      @404nobrakes Před 4 lety +25

      This is literally the printer model of business. Implying that the car is somehow disposable

    • @hoonaticbloggs5402
      @hoonaticbloggs5402 Před 4 lety +7

      Saurabh Kulkarni
      That’s exactly what they are planning

    • @cedricfranzen8558
      @cedricfranzen8558 Před 4 lety +54

      any car in parts is stupidly expensive... a couple years ago I read an article in a car magazine that did the math on how much a complete car would cost in replacement parts. They used the most sold car in my country, Germany, the VW Golf:
      a well equipped VW Golf from the dealer, costs about 30,000€
      the same Golf in OEM replacement parts (no labor) costs over 250,000€
      now you know where the real money is made...

    • @tomtaietot
      @tomtaietot Před 4 lety +1

      @@cedricfranzen8558 Seems interesting .... but it s a LOOOT OF MONEY (i was expecting like 100-150l). Anyway - did you find the article or something similar on the internet ?

    • @autotempest
      @autotempest Před 4 lety +4

      Or just put on iron rotors, which is what most owners do at that point.

  • @cg7025
    @cg7025 Před 4 lety

    Love your videos, so informative, entertaining and awesome, one of the very best channels on youtube. Keep up the great work. :)

  • @philipwatkins8157
    @philipwatkins8157 Před 11 měsíci

    Brilliant - I love your character, demeanor and presentation, so professional in a concise and intelligible format (and of course interesting).

  • @nicktune1219
    @nicktune1219 Před 4 lety +611

    Imagine trying to replace the brakes in 7 years and the insurance company totals your car.

    • @Dynoids
      @Dynoids Před 4 lety +9

      Yooo RIGHT

    • @PigglyWigglyDeluxe
      @PigglyWigglyDeluxe Před 4 lety +7

      Will this cayenne be worth less than $40k in 7 years?

    • @MyRuger
      @MyRuger Před 4 lety +5

      @@PigglyWigglyDeluxe at only 51% insurance companies can claim totalled meaning will it be worth more than 80k in 7 years

    • @MT-mi4zz
      @MT-mi4zz Před 4 lety +30

      I had an '83 Olds Cutlass that I always left unlocked. When someone asked me why I said "if they break into it by smashing a window, then it'll be totaled".

    • @truantray
      @truantray Před 4 lety +4

      Or imagine the devaluation rate on this vehicle after 5 years.

  • @RamtheCowy
    @RamtheCowy Před 4 lety +89

    i loved the snark at the end about jacking safety

    • @e.lan.s
      @e.lan.s Před 4 lety +2

      HAHAHAHAHAHA
      Jack safely

  • @BoltBandicoot
    @BoltBandicoot Před 3 lety +37

    For that amount I think I'll just keep dragging my left foot outside the door to stop the car.

    • @virginiawilliams6630
      @virginiawilliams6630 Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah my boots only$200 and that's pretty high for boots but I bet I will still come out cheaper than the carbon ceramic whatchamacallits I can buy a lot of boots for 30 some odd thousand

    • @johnwhodat8135
      @johnwhodat8135 Před 3 lety

      Hahahaha. Its cheaper to replace worn out shoe.

    • @user-dm4ss9iz3d
      @user-dm4ss9iz3d Před rokem

      Underrated comment 😂😂

  • @charliegrech5598
    @charliegrech5598 Před rokem +21

    The majority your videos are excellent, as are your presentation skills. You present your topics clearly and in a concise, methodical manner. Additionally, the use of diagrams (as utilised by yourself) would enable even the less technically minded of your audience in assisting them in understanding the points your trying to get across. A+ to you.

  • @12beemer34
    @12beemer34 Před 4 lety +372

    "I'll put a whiteboard anywhere" Needs to be on a shirt!

    • @yakkoss
      @yakkoss Před 4 lety +2

      Yes!!

    • @jeppoification
      @jeppoification Před 4 lety +2

      You just potentially came up with a million dollar idea 😂

    • @krypticlock
      @krypticlock Před 4 lety +1

      i'd buy it

    • @matejlieskovsky9625
      @matejlieskovsky9625 Před 4 lety +9

      On a shirt with an integrated whiteboard, obviously!

    • @eue4127
      @eue4127 Před 3 lety

      A white shirt (so he's putting the whiteboard on his viewers)

  • @GhostVvar
    @GhostVvar Před 4 lety +71

    "I'll put a white board anywhere" probably the best part of the video!

  • @Rafalce
    @Rafalce Před 3 lety

    Really cool way you record the video! Thank and keep it up!

  • @jonsmall72
    @jonsmall72 Před rokem

    Great video and I especially loved the explanation of how the coating was applied. Earned a subscriber. BTW - I follow a suggested practice of sliding the wheels underneath the axles as a backup in case the jack stands fail. Thank you and can't wait to watch the rest of your content!

  • @paul_109
    @paul_109 Před 4 lety +748

    Porsche Owners with Carbon-Ceramic Brakes: *Brake at a redlight*
    Also them: "I'm never gonna financially recover from this"

    • @ernestoruiz4946
      @ernestoruiz4946 Před 4 lety +4

      LMAO

    • @JS-nt3cn
      @JS-nt3cn Před 4 lety +21

      Carbon ceramic rotors last about four times as long as iron rotors.

    • @ck867
      @ck867 Před 4 lety +28

      J S - J S and cost 13.7x more than iron rotors. Probably not required on a Cayenne 🤷‍♂️

    • @jeremijakrstic1968
      @jeremijakrstic1968 Před 4 lety +22

      @@JS-nt3cn 4x2k is still less than 30k.
      2k for brakes still hurts.
      Porsche is not for regular customers.

    • @babybirdhome
      @babybirdhome Před 4 lety +15

      I had a friend who owned a 928 back in the late 80s. He said "it's an amazing car to own for 6 months. He said that was about as long as you could afford to drive it before the maintenance costs would bankrupt you or you'd have to sell it so cheap that it would be a nearly total write-off. So nothing has really changed.

  • @zanewebber2205
    @zanewebber2205 Před 4 lety +154

    “That’s a level of baller I’m not sure I can comprehend” 😂

    • @mikeschaner5853
      @mikeschaner5853 Před 4 lety +1

      Exactly... I wouldn't spend $3,200 let alone $32k 😆 holy moly!!!

  • @DimitriBianco
    @DimitriBianco Před 3 lety

    Great video! Thanks for sharing new technologies on the channel!

  • @BigBoyz33
    @BigBoyz33 Před 4 lety

    They look so damn good, that caliper is insane!!

  • @slartbarg
    @slartbarg Před 4 lety +76

    "I'll put a whiteboard anywhere" sounds like a threat

    • @evdaman
      @evdaman Před 4 lety +2

      No, it's a promise

    • @pthom1508
      @pthom1508 Před 4 lety +1

      "I'll put a whiteboard anywhere." - How Jason got a job in porn.

  • @PatsGarageOnline
    @PatsGarageOnline Před 4 lety +85

    "Engineers don't have feelings ... so no feelings were hurt." 😂 I love this! In fact, I actually need to start thinking and using this. Especially for some of the comments and DMs I receive.

    • @sypernova6969
      @sypernova6969 Před 4 lety

      yeah. maybe Jason could make a t-shirt... :-)

  • @AdventureBrad
    @AdventureBrad Před 3 lety +3

    Slide the wheel under the rocker for some added protection but looks plenty safe the way you have it if your not going under the car.Great videos, thanks!

  • @MuhammadKhan-yl7mt
    @MuhammadKhan-yl7mt Před 3 lety

    Very nice with thorough backup evidence.

  • @texdevildog9174
    @texdevildog9174 Před 4 lety +272

    My take away: diamonds are a 10 on hardness scale and I need diamond brake rotors.

    • @burnerheinz
      @burnerheinz Před 4 lety +15

      Industrial diamond is fairly cheap don't know how to coat a brake disk in it though

    • @fleimlehner
      @fleimlehner Před 4 lety +25

      @@burnerheinz cut the diamonds to be embedded into the rotor. Imagine flexing on people by saying your cars brakes has more diamonds then a rolly

    • @DigitalDiabloUK
      @DigitalDiabloUK Před 4 lety +12

      Found the Dubai guy 😂

    • @romanromero5099
      @romanromero5099 Před 4 lety +2

      @@fleimlehner with a set of car brakes closing at 70000$ 😜😂

    • @MrNotorius5500
      @MrNotorius5500 Před 4 lety +2

      @@romanromero5099 For just one side.

  • @Bulgdoom
    @Bulgdoom Před 4 lety +757

    When brakes cost more than the value of 90% of people's cars

    • @Theart0fstyle
      @Theart0fstyle Před 4 lety +34

      Fixed* When brakes cost more than the value of 90% of said purchased car after 5 years of depreciation

    • @babybirdhome
      @babybirdhome Před 4 lety +20

      @@Theart0fstyle I'm not sure what you think 90% of people drive, but it's a solid bet that it doesn't take 5 years of depreciation before they're worth less than $32k. I'd bet that about 60% of them are worth less than that by the time they've signed on the dotted line and driven off the dealer lot.

    • @m.pietro9087
      @m.pietro9087 Před 3 lety

      There’s a better world, but certainly it’s pretty expensive.

    • @Greenbearls
      @Greenbearls Před 3 lety +6

      I could buy a new car or I can buy brakes.....

    • @TheSterlingArcher16
      @TheSterlingArcher16 Před 3 lety

      babybirdhome I think he was talking about the depreciated value of the Porsche’s these go on lol

  • @vojvoda9060
    @vojvoda9060 Před 3 lety

    Nice explained man!!👍👍😊😊thank's

  • @tfaubus
    @tfaubus Před 3 lety

    always interesting, thanks Jason!

  • @UncleChopChop22
    @UncleChopChop22 Před 4 lety +246

    That moment you have where you wonder if educating your audience on the technical marvel of automotive engineering is wasted on them because you have to film extra about how the f'n car is jacked up.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Před 4 lety +88

      It would have overwhelmed the comments section otherwise, as happened on IG/FB haha. Cool brakes though, yeah!?

    • @offdatgogo
      @offdatgogo Před 4 lety +39

      Lol facts! I've worked on vehicles for 24 years and not once ever had a mishap lifting a vehicle. School and experience teach you how to safely do it. The keyboard mechanics are fascinating creatures indeed. 🙄

    • @Torchedini
      @Torchedini Před 4 lety +18

      For me it was good enough that he said I'm not going under the car. Then its safe. Yeah the car might fall on its brakes and ruin a bit of equipment. But if you're not under it you're safe.

    • @jackdeniston9326
      @jackdeniston9326 Před 4 lety +10

      @@Torchedini Fall on the brakes and ruin the concrete, 9 vs 6

    • @timothymaggenti717
      @timothymaggenti717 Před 4 lety +3

      I think engineers do have feelings after working with them for over 30 years!

  • @RusnakAutoDesign
    @RusnakAutoDesign Před 4 lety +316

    "I'll put a white board anywhere" May god have mercy on your child's soul when you give them "the talk".

    • @ghshrksidhc5460
      @ghshrksidhc5460 Před 4 lety +3

      God with a capital "g" brother, don't disrespect the Lord, however slightly it might be.

    • @ralanham76
      @ralanham76 Před 4 lety +1

      OH OH oooohhh

    • @tips4truckers252
      @tips4truckers252 Před 4 lety +9

      Orileys

    • @RusnakAutoDesign
      @RusnakAutoDesign Před 4 lety +4

      @Ivana Notyers I didn't capitalize because I didn't want to be blasphemous to His name on an internet joke.

    • @rotor13
      @rotor13 Před 4 lety +6

      @@ghshrksidhc5460 "God" as opposed to "god" means - "to whatever god you believe in, or if you don't believe in a god"

  • @ChuckJ1944
    @ChuckJ1944 Před 3 lety

    Great job as usual!

  • @luismonroyRealtor
    @luismonroyRealtor Před 3 lety

    “Let’s... brake it all down”... 🤣🤣🤣 thank you so much for existing and working hard at what you do!

  • @Radio-cw9pr
    @Radio-cw9pr Před 4 lety +197

    *“That’s a level of baller I’m not sure I can comprehend”*

    • @bwwilson1765
      @bwwilson1765 Před 4 lety +2

      Yeah, that's his best quote of 2020 yet. 100% in agreement as well.

    • @rockymonge4979
      @rockymonge4979 Před 4 lety +4

      I think, “...Engineers have no feelings, so no feelings were hurt.” (10:40) is a good contender!

  • @lashlarue7924
    @lashlarue7924 Před 4 lety +178

    ... And you probably can't change them yourself, because it would require dropping the engine and transmission and then extracting the rotors from the top of the strut mount through the exhaust manifold (which requires a special tool that only Porsche dealerships have). Join the Right to Repair movement and do the right thing.

    • @dustincady2811
      @dustincady2811 Před 4 lety +3

      😅 don't worry...I got it

    • @fredjr.8691
      @fredjr.8691 Před 4 lety +27

      freezeme360 *whooosh*

    • @malikemad4
      @malikemad4 Před 4 lety +12

      @freezeme360 "it's just a condom , slip it on " this is what ur mom said the night u were conceived

    • @court2379
      @court2379 Před 4 lety +7

      I guess some people here have never worked on a car. You made me laugh. As a mechanical engineer I have wanted to throttle the person that designed some of the junk on cars. I mean really, why is the fuel tank access port on top, where you have to drop the tank to get in it. I am pretty sure we have the ability to seal one placed on the side or bottom where it would take seconds to access. Or perhaps having to remove the exhuast system to replace an O2 sensor. Or remove the entire engine to replace an alternator, distributor, or AC compressor. The list goes on...

    • @SteinOnkel
      @SteinOnkel Před 4 lety +5

      @@court2379 The access port for the fuel tank is on the top, so that you can access it regardless of how much fuel is in it.
      O2 Sensors mounted vertically can get too hot and if they are mounted from the bottom, condensation can collect inside of them, causing misreadings and failures.

  • @ArsenicGremlin
    @ArsenicGremlin Před 3 lety

    Really well done man nice video

  • @goldtutch
    @goldtutch Před 3 lety

    i saw these in a car park on a porsche of course and i couldnt believe my eyes they are huge!

  • @funkingonutz1170
    @funkingonutz1170 Před 4 lety +200

    Me deciding if I should splurge and get $150 "racing" brake pads
    Porsche- $32,000 take it or leave it

    • @jakegarrett8109
      @jakegarrett8109 Před 4 lety +8

      Not unless you’re racing... For street use the racing type are worse (like ceramic won’t work well until it’s hot, and bare metallic pads are really loud screeching and destroy rotors fast), so the best ones for regular street driving are the normal semi-metallic and maybe even some organic ones (but the organic ones are often worse). So unless you want poor breaking normally or screeching to the point your ears want to bleed then I wouldn’t suggest it.

    • @Yugetubes
      @Yugetubes Před 4 lety

      What Jake said x 100.

  • @Loachie90
    @Loachie90 Před 4 lety +260

    You need to sell a shirt with “Engineering Explained” written on a whiteboard

  • @robertdavid4058
    @robertdavid4058 Před 2 lety

    Well done and great rebuttal.

  • @gaboriloskity
    @gaboriloskity Před 4 lety +251

    Scratches at level 8, with deeper grooves at level 9 😂

    • @skitzvitz
      @skitzvitz Před 4 lety +33

      But will it survive a lighter to the scree...... wait , wrong channel.

    • @neillouiellana551
      @neillouiellana551 Před 4 lety +20

      But will it survive the bend test?

    • @BrandenMcNabb
      @BrandenMcNabb Před 4 lety +6

      Collaboration!

    • @Steamrick
      @Steamrick Před 4 lety +1

      Well, no. The entire point of Tungsten Carbide is for them to not scratch at level 8.

    • @niccadoodles
      @niccadoodles Před 4 lety +3

      @@Steamrick it's a JerryRigEverything reference.

  • @funone8716
    @funone8716 Před 4 lety +103

    So, 30% longer wear life, 500% higher replacement cost. Sounds about right.

    • @taekwondotime
      @taekwondotime Před 4 lety

      This is how Porsche makes their money. They KNOW Porsche buyers will have to have it for their car and will upgrade to it immediately when they release it.

    • @syproful
      @syproful Před 4 lety +2

      You don’t own a Porsche just move yourself. You own it to enjoy yourself. And relieving someone from the burden that money can be. Is also enjoyment to some.

    • @r34p3rex
      @r34p3rex Před 4 lety +2

      @@taekwondotime and the buyers will buy the car and never actually take full advantage of these brakes

  • @table5522
    @table5522 Před 3 lety

    Such a great job done !!!!

  • @ProfCringe
    @ProfCringe Před 4 lety +167

    Bruh you beat me in rock papers scissors. Gg mate

  • @andrewgillis4977
    @andrewgillis4977 Před 4 lety +45

    9:41 “...that’s a level of baller I’m not sure I can comprehend”.

  • @jpabon18
    @jpabon18 Před 3 lety

    I agreed with your placement of the jack and stands... can't win em all! 👍

  • @mikeshorsepowergarage7577

    Great explaintion! Great video!

  • @gtahoer
    @gtahoer Před 4 lety +295

    Porsche has 4 pistons on one real wheel, my car has 4 pistons for the whole car 😂😂😂 I feel so broke right now

    • @dekoldrick
      @dekoldrick Před 4 lety +53

      Lucky. My car only has two. Rears are drums =P

    • @ThePentosin
      @ThePentosin Před 4 lety +4

      Are you driving a rotary?

    • @InsideOfMyOwnMind
      @InsideOfMyOwnMind Před 4 lety +7

      @@ThePentosin It could have one of those skid brakes like homemade minibikes have that just rub the tire.

    • @ImSick0
      @ImSick0 Před 4 lety +1

      Mine has 4 on one real wheel too 🤷‍♂️

    • @ironymatt
      @ironymatt Před 4 lety +2

      Prepare to feel even broker(?), cuz here's the actual piston count @ 5:12 that you must've missed first time around😳😳😳

  • @marvinsamuels1237
    @marvinsamuels1237 Před 4 lety

    Great presentation as always.

  • @onecreative1
    @onecreative1 Před 3 lety

    Great job on the video. I found it to be really informative and my favorite point was when you did the price comparison. I wasn't expecting that at all! Don't worry about the comments, there are haters everywhere on the internet. Thanks for the info!

  • @OlguinInHD
    @OlguinInHD Před 4 lety +96

    "I'll put a white board anywhere" lmao 😂
    Also, TEN piston calipers!? Had i been drinking coffee when I heard that, I would've spit it out.
    Love this channel!

    • @QuakeGamerROTMG
      @QuakeGamerROTMG Před 4 lety +3

      "It has ten piston calipers"
      *Looks at my twin piston front and single piston rear calipers*
      Oh

    • @dimosk7389
      @dimosk7389 Před 4 lety

      they have been around for years...also aftermarket companies like Rotora and Endless make 12-piston calipers...overkill? definitely

  • @CartubeCoIl
    @CartubeCoIl Před 4 lety +338

    No doubt, Porsche knows how to empty the pockets of it's customers.

    • @Davidb11421
      @Davidb11421 Před 4 lety +7

      I bet they couldn’t even if they tried

    • @bradleycooper5436
      @bradleycooper5436 Před 4 lety +21

      That's not what Porsche is about. If you like to circle jerk about we auto motive technology a Porsche is for you. You gotta pay play and a Porsche is the cheapest way to get super car tech

    • @jeffreypark
      @jeffreypark Před 4 lety +3

      One of the few car companies that can get away with taking features away and charging you more for it.

    • @glennaguon5165
      @glennaguon5165 Před 4 lety

      When you buy any exotic car. Whether that’s Porsche or not. You don’t look at the price of the parts. You’ll be looking at other costs. Hell you’ll probably trade it in for a new one in a few years. You’ll be making enough to cover the cost of it in about a day or less.

    • @DDd-hr6mz
      @DDd-hr6mz Před 4 lety

      They literally don't know what to do with themselves any more. Who NEEDS this?

  • @Ian-xw1ge
    @Ian-xw1ge Před 4 lety

    Excellent analysis

  • @frodemarkhus3692
    @frodemarkhus3692 Před rokem

    You are a very skilled engineer.I love to look at your video`s

  • @miika6739
    @miika6739 Před 4 lety +389

    "Barely measurable"
    Laughs in machinist

    • @johnbean2596
      @johnbean2596 Před 4 lety +16

      lol right? 1 thou is considered large 😂

    • @cencoast_7.340
      @cencoast_7.340 Před 4 lety +22

      john Bean Then I’m massive...sweet!

    • @Mj-zc6sb
      @Mj-zc6sb Před 4 lety +14

      .0008mm is .00003 inches which it 1 three hundred thousandths of an inch, largely different that a thousandth of an inch

    • @gonesideways6621
      @gonesideways6621 Před 4 lety +2

      @@johnbean2596 especially when you work to plus or minus .0002

    • @jamisusijarvi646
      @jamisusijarvi646 Před 4 lety +29

      @@Mj-zc6sb real machinist doesnt work with inches

  • @markkaupas8921
    @markkaupas8921 Před 4 lety +161

    $32,000 for brakes! The transmission would be getting a lot of wear and tear from me using it to slow the vehicle down.

    • @soaringvulture
      @soaringvulture Před 4 lety +20

      Imagine the cost for transmission service...

    • @FlyingGentile
      @FlyingGentile Před 4 lety +5

      Sheesh i wonder what the labor is like 🗿

    • @soundseeker63
      @soundseeker63 Před 4 lety +16

      And those prices are WITHOUT labor.... The running costs of these cars are just stupendous! No wonder they are so cheap used lol

    • @onivlasbrony7432
      @onivlasbrony7432 Před 4 lety +6

      Various sensors were included in the prices, this isn't the pice of the carbon/ceramic discs alone.

    • @edwill1595
      @edwill1595 Před 4 lety +2

      The people buying these cars are certainly not worried about the maintenance costs..

  • @f32440i
    @f32440i Před 3 lety

    You are a genius, love your explanations. 👍

  • @karenbailey9912
    @karenbailey9912 Před 3 lety

    LOVED your explanation, but HUGELY APPRECIATED your costing of replacements.
    I am about to buy a Cayenne E-hybrid, so at the beginning of your presentation I was thinking “I might just spec in those tungsten carbide coated discs”!
    No way now - not even if I’m pulling a caravan. I’ll just use the gears and the regen function with braking (which should save the brakes anyway!).
    Great work!

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 Před rokem

      The advantage of ceramic coated rotors in a hybrid would be reduction in rusting of the lightly-used rotors. With any luck, they'll last as long as you keep the vehicle so the replacement cost would not be a concern.

  • @dimitrisbrailas3993
    @dimitrisbrailas3993 Před 4 lety +80

    Scratches at level 6, with deeper grooves at level 7

  • @denisilyayev1878
    @denisilyayev1878 Před 4 lety +40

    No Rust, Low Dust, No Fade, No Money left in your bank account! - Porsche

    • @isaachunt5799
      @isaachunt5799 Před 4 lety

      lol

    • @jaydunbar7538
      @jaydunbar7538 Před 4 lety +2

      Well if thats the extent of your bank account, you should probably not be buying a new porche regardless of the type of brakes on it.

    • @indahooddererste
      @indahooddererste Před 4 lety

      I dont see the point bragging about money spend on your car if u can afford them. Go buy a cheap Car. Though i never see them complaining about Ferraris.

  • @valeriyproklov2868
    @valeriyproklov2868 Před 3 lety +66

    This could be used in electric cars. Since they practically don’t brake at all using brakes, but instead use recuperation, the rotor becomes very worn due to rust. So then when you do need to slam on the brakes, you find that they don’t actually work.

    • @BixbyConsequence
      @BixbyConsequence Před 2 lety +10

      I've been driving electric cars for 10 years and rusty rotors have not been a problem for me.

    • @snakeeyes9246
      @snakeeyes9246 Před 2 lety +9

      The Taycan Turbo has these coated brakes as standard.

    • @shawn576
      @shawn576 Před 2 lety +2

      Who drives their Prius at 200mph and then worries about brake rust and brake shudder? Electric cars are the same category as every other car - almost nobody drives them that hard.

    •  Před 2 lety +3

      @@shawn576 taycan, Audi GT, plaid...

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 Před rokem +3

      I agree. I recently drove an EV owned by a relative who almost never touches the brake pedal (he uses strong regenerative braking and tries to drive "one pedal" almost entirely), and even though the car is driven daily the rotors were clearly rusty - I could feel the grinding when I used the brake pedal.

  • @vr4966
    @vr4966 Před rokem

    Great video!

  • @jasepoag8930
    @jasepoag8930 Před 4 lety +24

    You gotta look out, man. Sometimes those cars will reach out and drag you under before they simultaneously explode all their jacks.

  • @KastaRules
    @KastaRules Před 4 lety +60

    You make a good point. I am going to install those rotors on a DACIA SANDERO.

  • @alecsavoye2698
    @alecsavoye2698 Před 3 lety

    i love the jack setup

  • @briankennedy2932
    @briankennedy2932 Před rokem

    Jackstand set inside/underneath the jack lift arm. Brilliant!

  • @drummerdoingstuff5020
    @drummerdoingstuff5020 Před 4 lety +89

    When the "track day" is a whole family event...

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Před 4 lety +5

      Hahaha, love it!

    • @joef5661
      @joef5661 Před 4 lety

      ...And have you seen those races where everyone's pulling a trailer? Good times!

  • @DewwaKakkar
    @DewwaKakkar Před 4 lety +20

    Having watched your videos right from your first year over here, helped me with my automotive engineering big time.
    Looking your channel grow to this scale after my education is done makes me very happy.
    Best of luck for the future!

  • @IN-PERFORMANCE
    @IN-PERFORMANCE Před 3 lety

    The lesson at the end was perfect !

  • @harry356
    @harry356 Před 4 lety

    These discs are huge!

  • @DJ.1001
    @DJ.1001 Před 4 lety +42

    Those prices are insane. You can buy an e36 M3 for the replacement price of these fancy porsche coated brakes.

    • @aygwm
      @aygwm Před 4 lety +6

      But why would you want a 25 year old car? 😉

    • @christopherpedersen1820
      @christopherpedersen1820 Před 4 lety +3

      Even the regular iron rotors cost as much as a 325. If the price of the iron brakes is anything to go off of then all of those are marked up about 10x from what they should actually be.

    • @IDJMK
      @IDJMK Před 4 lety

      A prime example at that!

    • @scratchy996
      @scratchy996 Před 4 lety +1

      Why are people complaining about the price of an exclusive brand ? It's supposed to be exclusive.

    • @truantray
      @truantray Před 4 lety +1

      @@scratchy996 WTF is exclusive about Porsche? Every overpaid professional is leasing one.

  • @zorrothebug
    @zorrothebug Před 4 lety +65

    Hahaha, all talking about Porsche while wearing a McLaren cap, nice trolling 🤣

  • @sbfhawk4343
    @sbfhawk4343 Před 3 lety

    Bravo Porsche !!! You are in the making of greatness!! Sure to see Acura, Lexus and other manufacturers start looking into these type of rotors !!!

  • @DonTruman
    @DonTruman Před 3 lety

    Appreciate the analysis, including the cost.

  • @NateDawg0007
    @NateDawg0007 Před 4 lety +71

    Jason is single handedly keeping Expo markers in business, LOL

    • @dadillen5902
      @dadillen5902 Před 4 lety

      Yes, but what about the dry marker dust? That stuff is deadly. 😯😉

  • @moekushnow7592
    @moekushnow7592 Před 4 lety +13

    "Super sonic speeds, above the speed of sound"
    made my day

  • @saqibtariq7994
    @saqibtariq7994 Před 4 lety

    Love the explanation @ the end to shut the trolls down 👌🏽