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  • @CyberDragon10K
    @CyberDragon10K Před 3 lety +1054

    Somehow I'm still not used to seeing an actual set behind the host for Techquickie.

  • @garreswe
    @garreswe Před 3 lety +481

    This reminds me of how the computer industry calls it a "15 inch" laptop when it's clearly 15.6 inches.

    • @aaronoffline8049
      @aaronoffline8049 Před 3 lety +187

      We all lie when talking about inches.

    • @techhelpportalextras3007
      @techhelpportalextras3007 Před 3 lety +14

      Why don't they just say 16 in

    • @igoresque
      @igoresque Před 3 lety +79

      or how some people refer to UHD as 4K, or 1440p as 2K

    • @acoupleofschoes
      @acoupleofschoes Před 3 lety +32

      @@techhelpportalextras3007 My guess is marketing. 17in is for "big screen", 15in is for "portability", so they round down. Smaller number means more portable.

    • @garreswe
      @garreswe Před 3 lety +43

      Or when people say that a laptop has or hasn't a "GPU" when they mean a dedicated GPU since every single computer with a graphical interface has a GPU.

  • @dogboy0912
    @dogboy0912 Před 3 lety +431

    Game (12gb)
    launch game
    Game is updating
    Game (60gb)

    • @amashaziz2212
      @amashaziz2212 Před 3 lety +4

      GB* but whatever....

    • @amashaziz2212
      @amashaziz2212 Před 3 lety +11

      @Hellow yeah that's what GB stands for genius.

    • @SteelSkin667
      @SteelSkin667 Před 3 lety +1

      @@amashaziz2212 GiB*

    • @amashaziz2212
      @amashaziz2212 Před 3 lety

      @@SteelSkin667 That's Gibibyte, got gigabyte

    • @SteelSkin667
      @SteelSkin667 Před 3 lety +1

      @@amashaziz2212 I was being pedantic as well, since these are the same as far as your OS is concerned; They're just not labelled as such, except in some Linux distros.

  • @storyforeveryone9530
    @storyforeveryone9530 Před 3 lety +64

    2120: your 1 Exabyte Drive is 125 petabyte smaller than advertised.

    • @benedani9580
      @benedani9580 Před 3 lety +16

      Would actually be 135.8 petabytes smaller.

  • @DenzCasuela
    @DenzCasuela Před 3 lety +820

    The answer is how much you can afford

    • @garemge
      @garemge Před 3 lety +26

      Sure why not
      Never gonna give you up

    • @Praneel
      @Praneel Před 3 lety +5

      @@garemge RAND🅾️M

    • @Dudeinfire99
      @Dudeinfire99 Před 3 lety +2

      Sadly, that's the truth :'(

    • @TechyyGD
      @TechyyGD Před 3 lety +3

      @@garemge r/iamveryrandom

    • @Dudeinfire99
      @Dudeinfire99 Před 3 lety

      @Denis that pfp, bruh

  • @MrAweenz
    @MrAweenz Před 3 lety +363

    When you unwrap your sandwich and your dog is like "Gibibyte"!

  • @Ladida455
    @Ladida455 Před 3 lety +79

    Q: How to solve this problem?
    A: Maybe just use the correct units. That´s it. The best kind of correct is technically correct. Please be technically correct. It´s that easy. People listen to you.

    • @darkridge
      @darkridge Před 3 lety +9

      Real answer: Expect the storage manufacturers to use the same units as _every one else_ in the computer industry, instead of a small group of people trying to make up new terms for units that have been used in the industry for decades.

    • @pinkypromises714
      @pinkypromises714 Před 3 lety +2

      @@darkridge by industry you mean microsoft?

    • @darkridge
      @darkridge Před 3 lety +9

      @@pinkypromises714 Yes.
      And manufacturers of: RAM, optical disks, optical disk drives, backup tapes, tape backup drives, floppy disks, floppy disk drives... Also, makers of other OS's, like Mac OS, UNIX, Linux, and others... Also older computer manufacturers, like Atari, Commodore, Tandy, IBM, and others... Not to mention developers of software like file managers, download managers, image or video editing software, or anything else that might need to display file sizes or storage space.

    • @pinkypromises714
      @pinkypromises714 Před 3 lety +3

      @@darkridge Modern Linux and apps uses the correct by default these days, only Windows and their apps cant do it because 'reasons'

    • @darkridge
      @darkridge Před 3 lety +6

      @@pinkypromises714 Yes, currently some OS's and programs use the new units, but that is only because HD manufacturers selfishly chose to use decimal units in what was an otherwise completely binary ecosystem. It was only their muddying the waters that drove some people to create the new, nonsensical words in a misguided effort at clarification, when the only thing needed was to force the HD manufacturers to confirm to the rest of the industry.
      So, now, some OS's use the new units and others don't. Some programs use them and others don't. Some manufacturers use them and others don't. Some people use them and others don't. If anything, the creation of the new units have just made things more confusing.

  • @aidanjudge5209
    @aidanjudge5209 Před 3 lety +74

    You're telling me a pair of HEADPHONES sponsored this video? Nice try. I know headphones can't write emails

    • @AnthonyGoodley
      @AnthonyGoodley Před 3 lety +1

      Except CZcams stopped sending out Email notifications months ago.

    • @mathieub0934
      @mathieub0934 Před 3 lety +3

      @@AnthonyGoodley wait, how can you be verified?

    • @AnthonyGoodley
      @AnthonyGoodley Před 3 lety

      @@mathieub0934 CZcams seen fit to put an entry into their massive database that keeps track off who is and isn't verified in my favor. I'm one of the lucky ones.

    • @user-pq3ui5sb9i
      @user-pq3ui5sb9i Před 3 lety

      @@AnthonyGoodley Well 14 years old account :D, my oldest is 10 years old

    • @mthompson965
      @mthompson965 Před 3 lety

      *sad headphone noises*

  • @gaelcoronelgael
    @gaelcoronelgael Před 3 lety +501

    Warzone Updates: YES

    • @sunwooooooo
      @sunwooooooo Před 3 lety +15

      More like “no” :(

    • @nathanhu9148
      @nathanhu9148 Před 3 lety +1

      @@sunwooooooo no ❤️

    • @yacobgugsa2524
      @yacobgugsa2524 Před 3 lety +12

      Flight Simulator 2020: *HELL YES*

    • @forest3945
      @forest3945 Před 3 lety +8

      @@thedrumknight then what do you classify as a "real game" then?

    • @prostickman4946
      @prostickman4946 Před 3 lety

      @@thedrumknight ehhh... can't say you're wrong

  • @PaulHawkinson
    @PaulHawkinson Před 3 lety +98

    My little sister just walked up behind me and said that "the guy looks like captain Nemo from 20,000 leagues under the sea"

    • @foobars3816
      @foobars3816 Před 3 lety +5

      You mean cause he has dark hair and a beard, because that's really the only things I notice.

    • @ErilynOfAnachronos
      @ErilynOfAnachronos Před 3 lety +11

      Considering the set, with the blue background, the "Greekish" pillars, yeah, I can see her reasoning.

  • @nuk1964
    @nuk1964 Před 3 lety +14

    playing "fast and loose" with definitions of prefixes had existed for quite some time. I vaguely recall an advert from the early 1980s for an 8-bit microcomputer system which claimed superiority over the competition because they had *over* 65,000 bytes of RAM while the competition only had 64K (using 1024 definition of "kilo" -- 64K is 65,536 bytes).

  • @etourdie
    @etourdie Před 3 lety +36

    Have you heard of the band 1023 MB?
    Of course not, they haven't had any gigs.

  • @AddlerMartin
    @AddlerMartin Před 3 lety +38

    1:46 It turned out to be nice, Taran! :)

    • @ZNotFound
      @ZNotFound Před 3 lety +1

      Context?

    • @elijahreed7749
      @elijahreed7749 Před 3 lety +6

      @@ZNotFound taren asked about that animation on Twitter

    • @MikhaelAhava
      @MikhaelAhava Před 3 lety

      @Elijah Reed damn, I deleted my Twitter.

  • @MasterGeekMX
    @MasterGeekMX Před 3 lety +72

    As a Linux user, MiB and MB are a mess, becasue a lot of software (including windows) lists MiB as MB.

    • @yumri4
      @yumri4 Před 3 lety +6

      I agree they should all move to base 2 and get rid of the base 10 ones. I get why base 10 is used in product marketing but as all consumer computers use base 2 not base 10 it would be easier to only use base 2 in comments and variable return values.
      We might be moving to a base 4 world when PCIe 5 comes around but consumer tech has yet to need gen 4 so gen 5 will just be a gimmick for consumers. Even if it is there the difference will be to small for us to notice.

    • @gardian06_85
      @gardian06_85 Před 3 lety +10

      the funny thing is if it wasn't for Windows no one would ever know the difference between the 2, and the average consumer would be buying things, and never know that the term has 2 different meanings. RAM is base 1024 still to this day, but harddrives they use base 1000 because "bigger number is better"
      the funniest part is that SI doesn't even acknowledge the -bit or -byte as a metric base, so there is no absolute reason to require the prefixes to mean 1000, and the only thing that comes close to things that can be counted is the Mole (chemistry not the animal)

    • @MegaManNeo
      @MegaManNeo Před 3 lety +2

      Linux user since 2003, I still consider Microsoft's attempt to list file size correct.
      In other words, the -h switch for 'du' should be default.

    • @allenjunge4127
      @allenjunge4127 Před 3 lety

      @@yumri4 wtf are you talking about "moving to base 4"? That literally makes no sense. Base 4 is a completely different counting system and would require entirely rewiring how computers interpret data, and porting all software to an entirely new system.

    • @zZuckerZusatZz
      @zZuckerZusatZz Před 3 lety +5

      @@yumri4 I disagree wholeheartedly kilo, mega, etc have a clearly defined meaning in the SI system, calling 1024 bytes a kilobyte was the original sin.

  • @MyNameIsBucket
    @MyNameIsBucket Před 3 lety +138

    Translation: the tech industry as a whole agreed to measure storage by powers of 2... until one day the marketing department of a hard drive company said, "Hey, we can make our drives smaller and still call it a gigabyte!"

    • @JonathanBriggs
      @JonathanBriggs Před 3 lety +5

      "As a whole" you mean Microsoft. Storage was on tape in characters per inch. Then it was on "disk" in 512 byte chunks and then counted in 1,000s of those. Which was weird. But, as you probably know, SI units have official names and sizes and those are all in 1,000s. Even bytes. If you want anything else they made new words for you. Kibibytes, Mebibytes, etc.

    • @MyNameIsBucket
      @MyNameIsBucket Před 3 lety +15

      @@JonathanBriggs I don't need new words. The old ones are just fine. A KILOBYTE is 1024 bytes; always was, always will be. You'll notice that memory and hardware addresses use that terminology because they need to function a certain way that precludes shaving off space like a grocery store shrink ray.

    • @Efreeti
      @Efreeti Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you, exactly.

    • @Commander_ZiN
      @Commander_ZiN Před 3 lety +2

      I rememer one hdd company specify a GB as 1000 MB but they still calculated the MB as 1024 KB. They slowly tried to trick people, most of them were doing it not all though.

    • @Kakariki73
      @Kakariki73 Před 3 lety +1

      I still find it annoying when I install a 1Tb drive and only get around 970Gb instead, instead in the past, late 80s early 90s, when you got a 20Mb drive you'd end up with prix 21Mb capacity.
      It's still hard to get used to for me, alas breath in breath out... Woosaah 🙏

  • @ziffer90
    @ziffer90 Před 3 lety +87

    i'd welcome manufacturers to include the exact capacity. always ending up with a little less after formatting has been annoying since forever

    • @ErilynOfAnachronos
      @ErilynOfAnachronos Před 3 lety +13

      12.5% when it's in TB isn't a little anymore.
      Though it's not as bad as the 3.5" floppy. That was 2MB before formatting, 1.44MB after.

    • @TalesOfWar
      @TalesOfWar Před 3 lety +24

      They do. They also can't assume to know what file system or OS will be used on it which will change how much is actually usable afterwards. Windows uses GB when it should be GiB too. Basically Windows reports the wrong units, the drive makers don't. Most flavours of Linux, UNIX and MacOS report as 1000MB = 1GB, Windows reports 1024MB as 1GB, when it should be 1024MiB = 1 GiB.

    • @blahorgaslisk7763
      @blahorgaslisk7763 Před 3 lety +17

      @@ErilynOfAnachronos Let's use the correct nomenclature here. The 3½" floppy could store 1.44 MiB...
      OK, so I really hate the Kibibyte, Mebibyte, Gibibyte and Pebibyte. We're talking about computer storage, and it has always been specified using base 2. RAM memory is a perfect example. There is no such thing as a memory size that's a perfect base 10 in size. A Gigabyte of RAM is 1024 Megabyte, and a Megabyte is 1024 Kilobyte, and a Kilobyte is 1024 byte. There's no getting around this when talking about RAM memory. But if I want to store a Megabyte of memory to a disk it will take up 1.048576 Megabyte on the disk? Thank you for making things so easy for us!
      I'm pretty sure the current situation came about because someone in the marketing department of some hard drive manufacturer figured out that if they specified the size of their drives using Megabyte and Gigabyte specified using base 10 then their drives would look bigger on paper. And the damage was done...
      The funny part is that storage devices actually store the information in chunks that conform to the Base 2 units. It used to be that a sector on a HDD would store 512 bytes. Modern drives however use a sector size of 4096 bytes which just happen to be 4 KB (or KiB if you are anal-retentive) , a CD or DVD uses 2048 bytes per sector. Now guess what? SSD's are also using memory blocks that are sized using base 2.
      So if everything in your computer is actually using the binary system and the memory and storage is always sized using base 2 units then why are drive manufacturers specifying their drives size using base 10 units?
      What's next, memory manufacturers starting to specify the memory sizes using base 10? Don't you really want to install a couple of these new 8.59 GB memory modules?

    • @gardian06_85
      @gardian06_85 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TalesOfWar tell that to RAM manufacturers that still use 1024, and where -bit and -byte are not SI recognized (the closest is the chemistry Mole) there is no absolute reason to require it to mean 1000, and with the term meaning both things it means that both usages are correct. Windows just uses the same nomenclature for RAM as it does storage, or does your Linux machine report your 16GB or RAM as 17.16 GB ?

    • @adityaruplaha
      @adityaruplaha Před 3 lety

      @@gardian06_85 it reports it in GiB. GB is almost never used by default on Linux.

  • @mstp14
    @mstp14 Před 3 lety +21

    The correct answer is “ never enough”

  • @tehguitarque
    @tehguitarque Před 3 lety +16

    I misread this as "how much data do you REALLY *need*" I feel disappointed and click baited. Good video. Never heard of mebibytes.

  • @NaudVanDalen
    @NaudVanDalen Před 3 lety +5

    2:45 Gibibyte, Pebibyte. Boy, that escalated quickly.

  • @FFmax33
    @FFmax33 Před 3 lety +11

    Incorrect: This spaceship can go at a million kilometers per hour
    Better: This spaceship can go at 1000 megameters per hour
    Best: This spaceship can go a gigameter an hour

  • @Andile_Mdlalose
    @Andile_Mdlalose Před 3 lety +84

    How big is a clown's hard drive?
    512 GiggleBytes

    • @Confidentbabe
      @Confidentbabe Před 3 lety

      I don't get it

    • @jpfidalgo7
      @jpfidalgo7 Před 3 lety +4

      I told that joke on my discord and got kicked from the channel...

    • @insanitylol
      @insanitylol Před 3 lety +1

      @@jpfidalgo7 that’s called admin abuse mate

    • @vinade2100
      @vinade2100 Před 3 lety

      For some reason I mispronounced it as JiggleByte but I guess I was thinking of JiggleBits too much.

  • @deminybs
    @deminybs Před 3 lety +34

    Ahh yes I remember this conversation in school 20 years ago .....nice fresh content....lmao

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 Před 3 lety +1

      Wish I went to your school.

    • @sopcannon
      @sopcannon Před 3 lety

      how much space is there on a 3.5 flopp?

    • @deminybs
      @deminybs Před 3 lety +3

      @@sopcannon not enough for even a BIOS update these days 😂

    • @sopcannon
      @sopcannon Před 3 lety +1

      @@deminybs Our first hard drive inb our house was 20mb !

    • @majorramsey3k
      @majorramsey3k Před 3 lety +1

      @@sopcannon 1.38MB

  • @ianlee6416
    @ianlee6416 Před 3 lety +40

    Video about S0 and S3 sleep power states. And how S0 causes hot sleeping laptop in a bag

  • @Rick020
    @Rick020 Před 3 lety +26

    1TB SSD, aka 930GB, minus Windows... so about ~890GB actually available

    • @Avaryes
      @Avaryes Před 3 lety +10

      You mean 930GiB

    • @igoresque
      @igoresque Před 3 lety +9

      @Nahid Islam its just Windows doesn’t use the “correct” prefixes

    • @TheXlen
      @TheXlen Před 3 lety +8

      @@Avaryes actually no, 1GB is the standard definition of 1024MB by JEDEC spec and JEDEC is the wider industry standard that should be used, the issue is that you can't get drive manufacturers that they've been scamming people for 40 years

    • @ivoivanov7407
      @ivoivanov7407 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheXlen JEDEC is hardly wider from SI. At the beginning it was more clear - lowercase k is 10^3, uppercase K is 2^10. But with bigger numbers it become mess, so now MiB, GiB and so on is introduced.

    • @TheXlen
      @TheXlen Před 3 lety +3

      @@ivoivanov7407 the issue is MiB isn't used that often as it's annoying to write the "i" every time you're writing units

  • @christophermorin9036
    @christophermorin9036 Před 3 lety +6

    I still remember feeling betrayed when I bought my Toshiba Satellite laptop with it's advertised 640gb hard drive, and then booting up the laptop and finding out only 587gb were usable.

    • @barrybritcher
      @barrybritcher Před 3 lety +4

      it still is 640gb, its the way its formatted that determines how much space it needs for the allocation table

    • @ElNeroDiablo
      @ElNeroDiablo Před 3 lety +1

      @@barrybritcher It's 640x1000^3 as rated by the manufacturer. The OS (presuming Windows at least) shows it's 587x1024^3 as the way it will be read by the system and programs that don't lie to the user by rounding the numbers for neatness.
      1x1000^4 ["1TB"] comes to roughly 931x1024^3 (and a LOT of remainder past the decimal point!) [931GiB].

  • @askhowiknow5527
    @askhowiknow5527 Před 3 lety +5

    I REALLY wish that long ago it would've become industry standard not to use the 1000s, and only the 1024s.

  • @Efreeti
    @Efreeti Před 3 lety +3

    I'm the other way around, I've always seen a kilobyte as 1024 bytes, a megabyte as 1024 kilobytes, and a gigabyte as 1024 megabytes (or 1073741824 bytes), and interpreted that as more common. I always just saw the thousandfold increase as something hard drive manufacturers were doing. I hate that the industry has caved to that standard and we're now having to refer to them as kibi/mibi/gibibytes, etc.

  • @kyle_vr
    @kyle_vr Před 3 lety +46

    Just be pessimistic and then if it's higher you'll have a pleasant surprise! 😀

    • @flameshana9
      @flameshana9 Před 3 lety

      And people say pessimissim is unrewarding.

    • @HeenaPatel253
      @HeenaPatel253 Před 3 lety

      Or just buy a bigger drive and expect it to be less and be happy

  • @CryptPixel
    @CryptPixel Před 3 lety +3

    Literally just looked into this 1 month ago when I was needing to explain something to a ignorant friend of mine with a different video. Glad you guys finally made this video!

  • @AndroMatthew
    @AndroMatthew Před 3 lety +26

    How much space?
    Not enough.

  • @sreeragrprasad
    @sreeragrprasad Před 3 lety +8

    I think this is aimed at backing up the lady who said Gibibyte at AMD CES

  • @ewaldikemann4142
    @ewaldikemann4142 Před 3 lety +2

    Actually, in the days back when, we said k-bytes and M-bytes to distinguish from kilo and Mega. G(iga) and T(era) haven't been a thing in those times. Not even in dreams... A 40 M-byte hard drive already was huge.

    • @tommmicron
      @tommmicron Před 3 lety +3

      That sounds a lot better than kibibyte. These new terms just sound stupid

  • @ventilate4267
    @ventilate4267 Před 3 lety +15

    I just wish windows would display GiB and not GB, like it's literally a 1 letter change guys.

    • @glitchy_weasel
      @glitchy_weasel Před 3 lety +2

      thank you!
      at least to have the option in the control panel or somewhere to change the representation.

    • @olwethu9972
      @olwethu9972 Před 3 lety

      Why tho

    • @taq154
      @taq154 Před 3 lety +2

      @@olwethu9972 so that it accurately reports what units it's actually using.

    • @olwethu9972
      @olwethu9972 Před 3 lety

      @@taq154 what other unit is uses GB?

    • @lexsanderz
      @lexsanderz Před 3 lety

      I really wish the entire hardware industry would display GB in powers of 2. It's literally just 0 letters change guys.

  • @jonflannery8984
    @jonflannery8984 Před 3 lety +3

    Second the push for smellovision. Thanks for some interesting tech info today.

  • @Felipemelazzi
    @Felipemelazzi Před 3 lety +2

    Then in the future there will be a new "GIF vs 'JIF' war" around this and I'll love to watch

  • @AshrZ
    @AshrZ Před 3 lety +2

    TL:DR - the terms "kibibyte," referring to 1024 bytes, and "kilobyte," referring to 1000 bytes, are used interchangeably. However, companies try to scam you out of the least amount of storage, so they use kilobytes legitimately

  • @darkridge
    @darkridge Před 3 lety +5

    As the person paying for the drives, I just _love_ the fact that, if I put another 14TB drive in my server, I get another 12.7 TB of storage. I guess that missing 1.3 TB of space is the Hard Drive Mafia's cut.

  • @ArmacGenc
    @ArmacGenc Před 3 lety +19

    is there really still a person who does not know about the existence of FBC14 algorithm?

  • @jeandelafuente1
    @jeandelafuente1 Před 3 lety

    Loved the purple hue around James hands while moving them, kinda magical

  • @filipgrubesa
    @filipgrubesa Před 3 lety

    This is a video i needed right now ngl

  • @thejoker5755
    @thejoker5755 Před 3 lety +3

    They should tell us exactly how much space we're able to use instead of telling us how much space we have and some of it already being used by the software

  • @DG0011
    @DG0011 Před 3 lety +5

    A video explaining video game settings would be really good. Explaining people what setting does what and how it impacts a game and performance. Like, explaining SSR, Volumetric Effects, Lighting, etc.

    • @LeReVaQ
      @LeReVaQ Před 3 lety

      That already exist, check nexus gaming and their setting video for cyberpunk 77.they go into detail. also other channels

  • @TheCreativeModellerHO
    @TheCreativeModellerHO Před 3 lety

    Nice editing Taran! 👌

  • @xcbrr50
    @xcbrr50 Před 3 lety +1

    ISP loves marketing in bits , and loves billing you in bytes.

  • @animeshhawladar2349
    @animeshhawladar2349 Před 3 lety +7

    Sick Background beat bro ! Use it more often ...

  • @naryanr
    @naryanr Před 3 lety +7

    I never knew manufacturers went back to the “exactly 1,000 smaller units” definition.
    That's so god damn slimy.

  • @tolosate
    @tolosate Před 3 lety

    In french, we do use the term bit, but a Byte is expressed as an octet, so the common french person uses the term Mo instead of MB (méga octet), as octet means 8 bits ). And our ISP's are using Mbps, which the average consumer does not understand, because they can market bigger numbers

  • @iamdedlok
    @iamdedlok Před 3 lety

    LTT has a new employee and she is just the best. Guys you must vote for more screen time of this cutie @ 3:46

  • @anime-connoisseur1877
    @anime-connoisseur1877 Před 3 lety +5

    that's a lot of "Homework" storage

  • @aryan201
    @aryan201 Před 3 lety +69

    when you are so early that you see 7 "First" comments

    • @notapokemontrainer800
      @notapokemontrainer800 Před 3 lety

      Yes.

    • @whatskraken3886
      @whatskraken3886 Před 3 lety +1

      happens every time

    • @yuvrajsingh_11
      @yuvrajsingh_11 Před 3 lety +3

      when you are so early that you see 7 "when you are so early" comments

    • @aryan201
      @aryan201 Před 3 lety +1

      @@yuvrajsingh_11 and thus the when you are so early inception begins

    • @reggiePLEASE
      @reggiePLEASE Před 3 lety

      when you are so late that you miss all the "when you are so early" comments

  • @alinek2289
    @alinek2289 Před 3 lety

    really interesting. thank you!

  • @Pokemark17
    @Pokemark17 Před 3 lety +2

    Bought a 8 terabyte hard drive a few months back cause I was sick of waiting days to re download stuff

  • @RailfanSrikrishna
    @RailfanSrikrishna Před 3 lety +3

    Just use Linux you will get exact hard drive space just as its advertised

    • @jayhill2193
      @jayhill2193 Před 3 lety

      not really. Though Ext4 is better than NTFS in most cases, it's still needs some space like all file systems do.

    • @Niosus
      @Niosus Před 3 lety

      Which will be perfectly cancelled out by your files being "larger". It's not like you can magically fit more data on the drive.

  • @rlgsofficial
    @rlgsofficial Před 3 lety +27

    Litterly everyone: First

  • @IanNewYashaTheFinalAct
    @IanNewYashaTheFinalAct Před 3 lety +2

    2:45 "I'm bi- a lot of things, but KiB/MiB/GiB/PiB ain't one of them."
    -Henry E. Panki

    • @SuperAceCrusher
      @SuperAceCrusher Před 3 lety

      Triple H huh 😂😂😂

    • @IanNewYashaTheFinalAct
      @IanNewYashaTheFinalAct Před 3 lety +1

      @@SuperAceCrusher Henry E. Panki: "I'm definitely not who you think I am"
      Anita Reelman: "And I'm definitely NOT who you think _I_ am"
      Henry: "So just stop asking! We're just two reporter people with regular reporter names"

  • @angelemmanuelperezmuniz1474

    To answer James's questions at the beginning. How much space your drive haves? Not enough. Are you sure? Yes.

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      @sunnydecree8410 Před 3 lety

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  • @gwgux
    @gwgux Před 3 lety +6

    The problem is due to the fact that your OS (for most people Windows) measures data in bytes = powers of 2, not the bibyte unit. Here's the thing, for many of us who've been in tech for many years a byte will always be 8 bits and a kilobyte will always be 1024 bytes, a megabyte will always be 1024 KB and so on and we're NOT going to change. For us, the rest of the world needs to learn, not us.
    While this is in fact elitist, (guilty as charged), guess who pays the bills of the younger engineers and IT out of college? By the time we all die off in 30+ years it'll be ingrained in those engineers to keep using the same nomenclature we're been using for decades. It's not going to change anytime soon. Some OS's like VMware ESXi DO use the new terms, but they're a minority. Windows still hasn't changed and considering Windows it what it is with backwards compatibility, good luck...
    I agree this is a problem and it needs to be rectified, but since drive manufacturers are at odds with the literally everyone else on this point for being able to put bigger numbers on the products, we're basically at a stalemate.

  • @elonzy7778
    @elonzy7778 Před 3 lety +15

    FBC14 algorithm is the best cryptocurrency investment in my life

  • @PurpleKnightmare
    @PurpleKnightmare Před 3 lety

    This is great, thank you.

  • @alexlandherr
    @alexlandherr Před 3 lety +2

    I prefer the binary prefixes over decimal ones. Linux Debian-based distros use binary prefixes like GiB etc.
    Windows 10 uses decimal prefixes when they’re really using binary ones which I tested by creating a dummy file of 1024^3 bytes = 1 GiB. Windows labeled it as “1 GB”.

    • @jamesmicklewright2835
      @jamesmicklewright2835 Před 3 lety

      This. Windows is the real problem here. Linux uses the binary sizes, MacOS uses decimal, and Windows uses binary, but reports it as decimal.

  • @TheLemonBird
    @TheLemonBird Před 3 lety +3

    im just typing first to boost comment engagement!

  • @freakinschweeet
    @freakinschweeet Před 3 lety +6

    Never accepted the "bi" terms because they were invented for no good reason. Giga- and Mega- were perfectly fine in referring to bytes (2^3), until marketers decided to lie about capacity.

  • @mikemclean1511
    @mikemclean1511 Před 3 lety

    Great video! I just wish this video was made 12 years ago when I had an argument with my 10th grade business teacher over this exact topic. This would have given me an extra 5 marks on a test.

  • @firenutz698
    @firenutz698 Před 3 lety

    James has become my new fav at LMG. I love you too Riley!

  • @kanan.n6974
    @kanan.n6974 Před 3 lety +3

    when your so early there's more likes then views. and 10 first comments

  • @0MGWT
    @0MGWT Před 3 lety +4

    first

  • @Fuzzel
    @Fuzzel Před 3 lety +1

    This explanation omits the most important bit: Windows calculates and displays the capacity in Gibibyte but displays GB instead of GiB. Anything else behaves as expected. 1TB hard drives are sold with exactly 1TB of bytes. Then windows calculates 931 GiB but displays 931 GB. Linux and macOS don't do this weird mix.

    • @ElNeroDiablo
      @ElNeroDiablo Před 3 lety

      Under the hood all three OSes are calculating in Binary Scale (or "iB"), but modern Linux & MacOS lie to the user and fudge the numbers they show so it's in Metric Scale to match the drive manufacturers. Windows sticks to its guns on reporting storage, RAM & ROM sizes in Binary Scale, just as it has when it was just a GUI laid over DOS (the period of Windows 1.0 through 3.11) which did everything in the Binary Scale the hardware actually works on.

  • @MarkParkTech
    @MarkParkTech Před 3 lety +1

    yeah, I still remember getting mad when they were using GB to represent 1000 MB instead of 1024 MiB - given that that's how the filesystem does it. Not to mention GiB and MiB terms hadn't really been issued yet in the early days, or at least the terms weren't wall known and in use yet.

  • @Saxshoe
    @Saxshoe Před 3 lety

    Your concern at 3:29 is significant. Regardless if, over time, the average size of a file stays the same in proportion to the size of drives, the percent difference between a PB and PiB (12%) is literally an order of magnitude greater than the percent difference between a TB and TiB (9.9%) similarly between a GB and GiB (7.3%) between a MB and MiB (4.8%), similarly with KB and KiB (2.4%). As we graduate to higher and higher storage expectations, the error between the base 10 and base 2 grows and grows. Eventually when we reach a Queccabyte (10^90 bytes), the Quecbibyte is actually two Queccabytes!

  • @turkpro2131
    @turkpro2131 Před 3 lety

    Thanks i knew about Michael Hill! He was my professor in Oxford and told us about FBC14 algorithm!

  • @duncandalsbar7387
    @duncandalsbar7387 Před 3 lety

    I had an idea for a Techquickie episode (though I'm not sure how long it would take). For major triple A games (like Cyberpunk 2077) which obviously need top of the line computers to run smoothly, what level of hardware do they need to develop such games? Do they use even more 'state of the art' equipment? (if so has Linus or any in the team played games on them?) or do they have other techniques to develop games using more standard equipment.
    Thank you in advance and well done with such great content.

  • @CutieHoney
    @CutieHoney Před 3 lety

    Encoded Smell Data or ESM for short, was developed in the late 2020s and championed by the pron industry is now a requirement at all movie theaters.

  • @chasmskulker6944
    @chasmskulker6944 Před 3 lety

    I didn’t understand anything in this vid but I liked watching you!

  • @EpicGamer-no3yj
    @EpicGamer-no3yj Před 3 lety

    Techquickie: Promos THX headphones. When covering the Razer hammerhead buds, THX is just a fancy way to charge money for things that already could meet those specs. lol. Just poking a little fun. I watch all the LMG channels and love the content. Keep it up guys!

  • @lukas_ls
    @lukas_ls Před 3 lety

    Pretty easy: IT Guys typically use the 2^10/20/30/40 metric because it makes more sense than using 1000 as a prefix. Storage Manufactures use the metric that makes it sound better.
    No average customer would pay more for a 1TiB drive than a 1TB drive simply because hardly anyone knows that you'd get almost 100GiB more storage.

  • @MirekFe
    @MirekFe Před 3 lety

    If you want to find out the exact amount of bytes you get on your storage, look at the fine print.
    They write down that _'this'_ much data is equal to _'that'_ amount of bytes.
    And all you have to take into account now is that you'll lose a certain amount of data, depending on your file system of choice (FAT, NTFS, EXT, XFS, etc).

  • @jimitsoni18
    @jimitsoni18 Před 3 lety +1

    It really triggers me when people start redefined existing terms and making new terms when they can't understand what they are saying

  • @115maxx
    @115maxx Před 3 lety

    For the average consumer this will probably not matter, but there are other reasons to express the prefixes in powers of 2. At least one is that it makes it way easier to calculate and work with these numbers. Want to know how many address lines you need for a 512 GiByte storage? Well just turn the number into a power of two: 512 = 2^9 and Gi = 2^10 and multiply those by using exponential rules: 2^9 * 2^10 = 2^19. There you have the needed address lines: 19. You can also use the ld function, but I cant do that in my head yet...

  • @EMAngel2718
    @EMAngel2718 Před 3 lety

    Since the prefixes are exponential the proportional difference increases with every step you go so in theory the issue will actually become more and more significant as we store more and more data. Even just going from Kilo to Peta takes the difference from 2.4% to 12.5%. That's from basically negligible to 1/8th.
    Of course if storage size stops ballooning, which I think is expectable, this may never come to a head. We'll need to more than double the number of recognized prefixes before it becomes a 50% difference.

  • @level19barb16
    @level19barb16 Před 3 lety

    The thing that still confuses me is the bit-byte thing. I think it comes up more often when talking about networking/connection speeds. But whenever I hear byte (or bit) I usually get lost and I'm always wondering if whatever I'm looking at is apples to apples (for example compared to maybe something else I've seen previously) and yes, I realize this may be very simple to some people

  • @Starfals
    @Starfals Před 3 lety +2

    I was always wondering about this back in the day. My friends even used to blame the stores and ask for refunds lol. The good old saying - IT AINT 4 TB !! ITS 3.6!! U LIED!!
    I always just accepted that it gets less the more you buy and a 10 TB disk will be 9? Which will feel like a total ripoff lol.
    I got around 30TBs right now, and imagine how much i can gain if the numbers were true and not off by soo much. Literally 1 more extra drive lol.

  • @jimvonmoon
    @jimvonmoon Před 3 lety

    Your IT professor: Kilobyte is exactly 1024 bytes.
    HDD manufacturers: Kilobyte is at most 1000 bytes. Likely less.

  • @pareshmhatre4204
    @pareshmhatre4204 Před 3 lety

    Finally some real tech quicky stuff

  • @papalpatte
    @papalpatte Před 3 lety

    I love this Set

  • @MisterRorschach90
    @MisterRorschach90 Před 3 lety

    With plc technology being released next year trends show that flash and disk based storage prices will converge. It’s insane you will be able to get a 2tb ssd for about 50 bucks. Can you just imagine being able to get a 16tb ssd for 350-400 dollars. This also means that everything on the internet will get a little bit faster as everyone switches there storage arrays from spinning platters to flash. Cars will be able to store detailed maps of entire cities, states, and countries for self driving. And Apple will be able to release a new iPod with a massive amount of storage that is actually fast. It would be so cool to have an updated version of the classic iPod with touch, thunderbolt 4, and a 4-16tb ssd.

  • @sy6149322
    @sy6149322 Před 3 lety

    The ads I have before the video starts are pulseway ads which is just a quick bit form Riley the been cut form one of the TechLinked Video lol

  • @atrombonist
    @atrombonist Před 3 lety

    This is the ultimate nerd channel of the LTT universe and I like it

  • @pacerdawn5512
    @pacerdawn5512 Před 3 lety

    A little more on 4k being the minimum storage space of a sector on a drive: if a file only takes up 1k, it still takes up the entire sector meaning 3k is wasted. Sectors are clustered together for larger files, with the last sector in the chain suffering the waste. So if a file takes up 10k, that's 3 sectors (12k) with 2k wasted space in the last sector. Literally, a 3k file takes up less space (4k) than three 1k files (which take up 12k).

  • @ilovefunnyamv2nd
    @ilovefunnyamv2nd Před 3 lety

    si the industry used to have consensus on how to market storage. they changed their mind somewhere around the 100GB /100GiB threshold, and its only gotten worse as capacity has grown

  • @wesyjam
    @wesyjam Před 3 lety

    I got asked the following question in my computer systems exam:
    How many bytes in a kilobyte?
    My answer was 1000 bytes.
    The "correct answer" was 1024 bytes.
    I disputed this question, and the lecturer refused to acknowledge the difference and grant me the mark for the technically correct answer, saying "I would normally take a kilobyte as 1024 bytes, and so should you."
    I would have argued that this difference is important enough to be taught and distinguished, but I left it at that and lost the mark.
    PS: he's of an older generation, so I don't blame him for wanting to stick to the norms

    • @MarcusH...
      @MarcusH... Před 3 lety

      ask him to google
      1 kibibyte in kilobyte

  • @Set-vt
    @Set-vt Před 3 lety

    On my newest PC build, I'm using a 500GB NVMe M.2 SSD for my OS and games I want to load as fast as possible, and I'm also still using my 1TB HDD 72OORPM from like 10 years ago for games.. no issues so far. At most I'll be replacing the hard drive with one with a bigger storage.

  • @StarsOfPleiades
    @StarsOfPleiades Před 3 lety +1

    The amount of differences between a petabyte and a pebibyte is called 'pitybyte'

  • @oalfodr
    @oalfodr Před 3 lety

    With my downloads an music folders being on the separate drive, my main ssd drive usage is always around 10%. My whole system with all my aps is taking up under 20gb. Until recently I did not even know the command to get drive usage

  • @iampete8692
    @iampete8692 Před 3 lety

    3:54 Damn it, Colton!

  • @Ryan50Ryan
    @Ryan50Ryan Před 3 lety

    Hey, what's your favorite soda?
    Mr. Pib.
    Ah yes, Mr Pebibyte. I know him.

  • @HShango
    @HShango Před 3 lety

    I always make sure my OS drive has at least 1 TB(SSD) space and another internal storage drive fr my apps, photos, files and various other apps, including drivers from time to time too (that drive is 1.8TB HDD).

  • @costafilh0
    @costafilh0 Před 3 lety +1

    The real question is, how much do you need? Cloud can't be the norm for everything! Looks like my next phone is going to be at least 256... And my PC HD has been 2TB for several years now! And it's not enough for a long time

  • @MK73DS
    @MK73DS Před 3 lety

    Actually, the ratio XiB/XB when X is bigger and bigger (K, M, G, P, E, ...) gets also bigger and bigger. This just comes from the fact that going from MB to GB is x1000, while going from MiB to GiB is x1024. And it's the same for any consecutive prefix. So... Yeah, you can be sure they will be used a lot by manufacturers

  • @nuk1964
    @nuk1964 Před 3 lety

    giggle-byte -- humor 10^9 or 2^30 bytes in size
    terror-byte -- extremely frightening thing 10^12 or 2^40 bytes in size
    maybe-byte -- may or may not be 2^20 bytes in size
    on a clear disk you can seek forever

  • @NicholasCowell
    @NicholasCowell Před 3 lety +1

    A rise and fall of intel would be pretty interesting