Touhou PC-98 Lore

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  • čas přidán 28. 03. 2022
  • The PC-98 era is a pretty niche era of Touhou history that few know and fewer love. I mean, I love this era! Hopefully you will find some love into the PC-98 era too. There lore doesn't have a lot to offer, but it still exists and is good to know!
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Komentáře • 69

  • @chuunibyou759
    @chuunibyou759 Před 2 lety +240

    Every series in touhou be like : reimu rampage youkai

    • @Iam.allofme
      @Iam.allofme Před rokem

      Yesh

    • @NovaDelta
      @NovaDelta Před 9 měsíci +7

      youd be pissed too if you had to constantly fix your shrine every single game because literally anybody decided that it was "wreck the hakurei shrine" o'clock

    • @marisakirisame867
      @marisakirisame867 Před 9 měsíci +1

      The only reason is WHY THE HELL they need to wreck those shrine?

  • @yogsothoth915
    @yogsothoth915 Před 2 lety +133

    I like to think Mimi-chan is just sitting happily in Marisa's house buried comfortably beneath all of her collected junk.
    Not unlike the Ancient-Psychic-Tandem-WarElephant in Adventure Time.
    Except explosive

    • @Suwawako
      @Suwawako  Před 2 lety +19

      Poor mimi chan

    • @TheHongKonger
      @TheHongKonger Před rokem +6

      We should do an archaeological excavation of Marisa’s house

  • @user-ki8ef2uj1r
    @user-ki8ef2uj1r Před rokem +70

    Imagine if Yumemi gave Marisa a gun instead of Mimi chan

  • @Zackylorin
    @Zackylorin Před rokem +41

    In my head, I think the PC-98 Era is canon.
    I think The place in Makai in Touhou 5 is a different area in Touhou 12, Makai is probably huge.
    Yuuka could have moved from Mugenkan to the Sunflower Field.
    And also I think that there is at the very least, a year time gap between Touhou 5 and 6, and during that time, spellcards became a big thing, Marisa and Reimu grew up a bit, Mima went somewhere else, Idk where honestly, Yuuka gained big interest in flowers, or at least more than before.

  • @jvts8916
    @jvts8916 Před 2 lety +202

    If I had to treat PC98 as canon, it'd go something like this.
    Reimu went through the Hell Route in Touhou 1. This one is obvious, it's the only route where you fight Mima.
    The yin-yang orb makes you immune to gaining weight from sweets. An amusing way to explain Reimu's smaller hitbox.
    Marisa won the Dim. Dream contest. Given modern Marisa's house is extremely messy, I can definitely imagine her storing a nuke but having no idea where she left it or just forgetting all about it.
    Marisa was the one that beat Yuuka. In Touhou 5, Yuuka seems to think very highly of Marisa's magical power.
    Finally, Yuuka was the one who defeated Shinki. In her ending, she decides to drain Marisa's magical power. In Touhou 17.5, the character Yuuma has the ability to absorb anything but it affects her mindset. Likewise, Yuuka's personality has changed from 5 to 9 and now has flower related abilities (Marisa had some kind of plant power in Touhou 2).

    • @yokaipinata1416
      @yokaipinata1416 Před 2 lety +21

      If I may add to this, I have the theory that Mimi-chan was the inspiration for Marisa to develop her Magic Missile shot type by the time of MS
      In this way, she sort of got what she wanted out of the events of PoDD: power. (You know, since that shot type is known for its massive damage output).

    • @xossminmin2745
      @xossminmin2745 Před 2 lety +11

      I think that Reimu gone for both routes in first chapter

    • @THE_INFECTED
      @THE_INFECTED Před 10 měsíci

      Let’s just say Mima decided to explore the world afterwards

  • @Zackylorin
    @Zackylorin Před rokem +20

    4:52 oh HEL NA Raymoo is geting crucifixationed my maria and mami

  • @flandrescarletdevil5844
    @flandrescarletdevil5844 Před 2 lety +94

    Since the Series always mentions Dream...what if the PC-98 Era is a Forgotten Dream and some characters who were able to return got remembered...

    • @Suwawako
      @Suwawako  Před 2 lety +30

      It makes sense, kinda like how super mario brothers 2 is a dream. But it doesn't make sense because they were definitely alive to see yumemi and the flying ship

    • @Momoyon
      @Momoyon Před 2 lety +10

      This doesn't make sense because many people want mima back, but she isnt getting remembered

    • @rafaelascencao6045
      @rafaelascencao6045 Před 2 lety +6

      @@Momoyon What about Mizuchi?
      I think a lot of people know about Mizuchi.

    • @Momoyon
      @Momoyon Před 2 lety +1

      @@rafaelascencao6045 idk who mizuchi is...

    • @rafaelascencao6045
      @rafaelascencao6045 Před 2 lety +6

      @@Momoyon Mizuchi Miyadeguchi.
      Mizuchi started with the incident of Touhou 6, ignoring all the characters of the PC-98 era.
      She is a PC-98 character.
      She is the main antagonist in Foul Detective Satori.

  • @henry_shocker2068
    @henry_shocker2068 Před 2 lety +59

    Keep up the work! This kind of content will one day be a gem in CZcams

    • @Suwawako
      @Suwawako  Před 2 lety +10

      People like you are the reason I keep living 🌹

  • @CelestialReturner
    @CelestialReturner Před 2 lety +34

    You know what should you do in the future? How about lore on individual characters based on how many appearances they made?

    • @Suwawako
      @Suwawako  Před 2 lety +10

      Would it make more sense to call them analysis videos? 👀👀👀👀

  • @zeno-kunofficial2214
    @zeno-kunofficial2214 Před 2 lety +28

    "You have to use your imagination to fill the blank"

    • @Suwawako
      @Suwawako  Před 2 lety +7

      It's true

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP Před rokem

      You know what that means... PEOPLE CAN'T BITCH TO YOU ABOUT HEADCANONS YAY

  • @TheKoakuma
    @TheKoakuma Před rokem +16

    Abt the contradictions pointed on Makai and Yuuka's place, I personally don't treat those as contradictions, as one doesn't exclude the other (HRtP, MS and UFO are placed in Makai but in different places, and Yuuka can perfectly have Mugenkan and the Garden of Sun), only the Marisa part gets fuzzy, but at the same time can relate to a time before pc-98

  • @THE_INFECTED
    @THE_INFECTED Před rokem +8

    I think that Yuuka doesn’t live in the flower fields instead she lives in the mansion but also visits the field a lot and those who meet her well…

  • @aseem481
    @aseem481 Před 2 lety +12

    ZUN loves Megami Tensei and Takemoto Izumi

  • @-x_i_x-3506
    @-x_i_x-3506 Před 5 měsíci +2

    So technically according to canon:
    -Reimu might have gotten crucified
    -Marisa has a nuke in her home (somewhere)
    -Reimu has a (technically) dead body in her closet

  • @Fishnberg
    @Fishnberg Před 2 lety +11

    I think you should cover the ZUN's music collection lore, that one is also pretty interesting

  • @dr.d.i3417
    @dr.d.i3417 Před 2 lety +10

    Keep it up man wonderful content my guy. Have a wonderful day i mean it much love

  • @Papaya.bloxx12
    @Papaya.bloxx12 Před 2 lety +10

    Orange is underatted

    • @Suwawako
      @Suwawako  Před 2 lety +2

      Orange > Meiling

    • @dantelawrence4676
      @dantelawrence4676 Před 2 lety

      Plot twist: Orange is Meiling

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP Před rokem +2

      @@dantelawrence4676 And Chen's name sounds like the Chinese word for Orange...

  • @Thomas-zg8ti
    @Thomas-zg8ti Před rokem

    Awesome video, I popped off when you said that PoDD was your favourite game.

  • @arcturus64
    @arcturus64 Před 2 lety +5

    1:20 heard Alice instead of Elis

  • @orangepeel4542
    @orangepeel4542 Před 3 měsíci

    WOOOOOOOOH ELIS YEAAAH

  • @Akyuu2608
    @Akyuu2608 Před rokem +2

    I love touhou 3 4 and 5

  • @MaksarBolotov
    @MaksarBolotov Před 2 měsíci +1

    I’m brain dead

  • @rickydiscord7671
    @rickydiscord7671 Před rokem +2

    "pc-98 is cannon but windows is also cannon while both are not at the sametime." while he did make time travel a thing and the games are full of random story plots. so each one of them are there own little realities. I mean those pc-98 timelines are to mixed up. so that's my headcannon. some of the games are different realities rather just one whole story. this is japan right? very old animes used to be filled with random things even hentais were very random back in the old days. there were almost no real stories. Touhou is like this and still is today. but the game plays are actually cool and I think that's the real goal rather just the story.

  • @LiquidHell
    @LiquidHell Před 4 měsíci

    I think the fact that Marisa is just casually given a LIVE MISSILE, makes these games peak touhou

  • @gardenerofthesun
    @gardenerofthesun Před 8 měsíci +1

    Ah, I wish Zun would bring back characters from at least PoDD

  • @lpfan4491
    @lpfan4491 Před rokem +2

    While it would be cool if it were canon and there are definitive references and potential continuity, I feel as though it is less annoying to just take ZUN's word literally and leave it at "Yeah, this probably should be canon, but actually consider it on the same level as fangames". There are just too many headscratchers on the connection to these two entities alone. (Stuff like, where the heck is the actual creator of Makai in the windows era?)
    And then there is the absolutely weird nonsense where Seihou Project is presumably canon to the PC98 games in some regard related to the outside world(even tho this interaction is jank at best) and because of Seihou having an independant crossover(and because two Touhou PC98-characters show up in an extra stage, probably stolen), Project Blank would also be indirectly canon in some way despite having nothing to do with ZUN at all. When such an unintentional multiverse-setting just spawns into existance beyond the creator's control due to a "funni crossover, lol" he may have wanted to walk back on anyways, I feel as though it makes sense to support the idea of "Actually, yeah, let's forget about the past", even if that isn't the actual reason why it got trashed.

  • @repatomonor21
    @repatomonor21 Před rokem +2

    Uh, wasn't Marisa Yuuka's apprentice?

  • @Archedgar
    @Archedgar Před 10 měsíci

    Mima. PLS GIB MIMA, ZUN-SAMA.

  • @Ida09
    @Ida09 Před 6 měsíci

    4:22 i wanna be turned into a cat too

  • @hugzar9797
    @hugzar9797 Před rokem +1

    Whats the game in the background?

  • @lotus_story
    @lotus_story Před 2 lety +9

    i headcanon that marisa and reimu actually killed off all people they fought . In LLL Marisa stage4 after she defeats Reimu, Reimu says “No! Don’t just kill me off like this!” Which I assume Marisa ended up killing Reimu anyways.

    • @appleando752
      @appleando752 Před 2 lety +1

      However, we do see Yuuka and Alice again in Windows.
      There is also the fact that PC98 Touhou isn't as modable as the Windows games, so the games only got translated once. That line may be a mistranslation, just like the "Die Wily" in Mega Man 7.

    • @leoleboss9414
      @leoleboss9414 Před 3 měsíci

      Some people got sealed , not really killed

  • @toaofatome6095
    @toaofatome6095 Před 2 lety +10

    8:28 well after that they returnrd to gensokyo and sterted to live ther, and after that they created clones of themself that reimu killed becouse "ther cant be two of the same people in gensokyo" (i Wonder why flandre is stile alive)

    • @Suwawako
      @Suwawako  Před 2 lety

      What

    • @toaofatome6095
      @toaofatome6095 Před 2 lety

      @@Suwawako did you play as chiyuri and yumemi? Basicly thos colorswops are ther clones

    • @Suwawako
      @Suwawako  Před 2 lety +1

      I just read off the wiki so I couldn't have seen that detail

    • @toaofatome6095
      @toaofatome6095 Před 2 lety

      @@Suwawako ah i see

  • @chuunibyou759
    @chuunibyou759 Před 2 lety +3

    Watch 1.5k
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    Ummmm makesense

  • @wbl_unlimited
    @wbl_unlimited Před rokem +1

    BRING BACK MIMA AND KONNGARA

  • @Ua_Conchubair
    @Ua_Conchubair Před rokem +3

    SHE IS NOT THE “COOLER SAKUYA” SHE IS NOT AS GOOD!!! SAKUYA IS ABLE TO STOP TIME!!!

    • @That_One_Guy...
      @That_One_Guy... Před 10 měsíci +1

      You're right, she's the better Sakuya instead

    • @Ua_Conchubair
      @Ua_Conchubair Před 10 měsíci

      @@That_One_Guy... shush b >M<
      Sakuya is MUCH BETTER than her!!!

  • @hourai-san3829
    @hourai-san3829 Před 2 lety +4

    Coolcool, when is the KKHTA lore?

  • @mymadnessworld9342
    @mymadnessworld9342 Před rokem +1

    this was absolutely painful to watch, yikes

  • @092-k
    @092-k Před 4 měsíci

    Game