Which SIG P365 Should You Get? (P365, P365 XL, P365 Macro, or AXG?)

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  • čas přidán 27. 05. 2024
  • In this video, we'll take a comprehensive look at the different Sig 9mm P365 pistol models and help you decide which one is right for you. We'll cover the Sig P365, P365XL, P365 Macro, and P365 AXG Legion, discussing their key features, pros and cons, and ideal use cases.
    In addition to the in-depth review, we'll also put the pistols to the test in a timed and scored competition to determine which one is the fastest and most accurate.
    * *Sig P365:* The original 10 round micro-compact pistol that started it all.
    * *Sig P365XL:* A longer-barreled version with increased 12 round capacity and sight radius.
    * *Sig P365 Macro:* A 17 round capacity pistol with a longer grip and Picatinny rail.
    * *Sig P365 AXG Legion:* A premium model of the Macro with enhanced features and performance.
    ««« GEAR USED IN THIS VIDEO »»»
    • Holosun 507k Optic: amzn.to/3stcl7l
    CONTENTS
    0:00 Intro
    3:20 Sig P365 Competition Ground Rules
    4:45 Sig P365 "Micro" Results
    5:28 Sig P365XL Results
    6:56 Sig P365 Macro Results
    8:01 Sig P365 AXG Legion Results
    8:49 Results Recap
    11:23 Which P365 is the Best?

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  • @VIP-ry6vv
    @VIP-ry6vv Před 6 měsíci +750

    Legion tattoo on my left testicle, punisher skull on the right, and a micro right in the middle.

  • @bradleyaldrich9549
    @bradleyaldrich9549 Před 6 měsíci +298

    I can’t believe this was not mentioned but the 17rd “macro” mags come with a baseplate and function 100% in the XL

    • @Centermass762
      @Centermass762 Před 6 měsíci +18

      Shit, I didn't know that. Now I need to pick some up.

    • @JamesReeves
      @JamesReeves  Před 6 měsíci +143

      Sorry, I thought that was obvious but you are right - I should have mentioned it.

    • @eindride1268
      @eindride1268 Před 6 měsíci +12

      .....Why wouldn't they? They're just longer p365 mags

    • @Centermass762
      @Centermass762 Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@eindride1268 I never even considered it, honestly. I forgot the macro even existed until I watched this video.

    • @transtubular
      @transtubular Před 6 měsíci +15

      Even better, Magguts sells springs for the 15 rounders that let you add 2 more rounds. They work fine!

  • @loganhall3477
    @loganhall3477 Před 6 měsíci +81

    The "micro" with the 12 round mag with the pinky extension is great.

    • @camerontomkins5571
      @camerontomkins5571 Před 6 měsíci +9

      This is my setup, and IMO; an option often overlooked.

    • @loganhall3477
      @loganhall3477 Před 6 měsíci

      @@camerontomkins5571 and I think you can get pinky extensions for the 10 round mags if you're in a 10 round mag state

    • @nmdesignco
      @nmdesignco Před 6 měsíci +5

      The Tactical Development "Pro Ledge" extensions are great. I just needed an extra 1/8" for my pinky finger.

    • @robertgrosek1124
      @robertgrosek1124 Před 6 měsíci +2

      absolutely my best solution too. that extra .9 inch on the barrel makes it uncomfortable to carry

    • @bwofficial1776
      @bwofficial1776 Před 6 měsíci +1

      You can always make a short grip longer but you can only make a long grip shorter once. I'm surprised Sig doesn't sell a P365L.

  • @wpenman3
    @wpenman3 Před 6 měsíci +121

    Great vid! P365X is my sweet spot. Love my Macro too, but when it comes to comfort, simplicity, and capability the P365X just checks all of the boxes for me and I find that I carry that gun more than 70% of the year.

    • @CM-qm8qn
      @CM-qm8qn Před 6 měsíci +9

      The x is the ultimate

    • @ifly64s
      @ifly64s Před 6 měsíci

      I carry mine in an Alabama pocket holster.

    • @alvolante4164
      @alvolante4164 Před 6 měsíci

      I’m looking for 365x grip module. Is it known with another name? I’m not having much lock …

    • @CM-qm8qn
      @CM-qm8qn Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@alvolante4164 x and xl grip module are the same

    • @alvolante4164
      @alvolante4164 Před 6 měsíci

      @@CM-qm8qn thanks 🙏 for your wisdom 👍

  • @dragonryucr2000
    @dragonryucr2000 Před 6 měsíci +5

    "Any gun is a Pocket gun if your pockets are big enough" - Sun Tzu

  • @wickwilkinson4208
    @wickwilkinson4208 Před 6 měsíci +51

    P365 Macro, no comp, no optic. Small light. Tremendously useful package.

    • @Simply709
      @Simply709 Před 6 měsíci +3

      They do make these, they are called the p365 Tacops, though it doesn't come with the light obviously

    • @LFDNC
      @LFDNC Před 6 měsíci +2

      I went with the macro with optic. I love it.

    • @namenotfound8747
      @namenotfound8747 Před 6 měsíci

      That's why your first wife Wilkinson.

    • @ameribrahim5405
      @ameribrahim5405 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@Simply709 I have one without the comp but it is not a tackops it does not have the magwell and the extended mag release But it does have a manual thumb safety

    • @Simply709
      @Simply709 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@ameribrahim5405 So, its basically the Tacops but without a magwell and includes a manual safety, literally just an XL with a macro lower. I didn't even know they existed, and I work at a gun store.

  • @DerWaidmann_
    @DerWaidmann_ Před 6 měsíci +82

    I carried my P365X for about a year, swapping grip frames in the summer to the 10 round length. I then carried an XL for another year. I actually just decided recently to go back to carrying the X model, 3 inch barrel with 12 round grip. The loss in energy is negligible when the barrel is only .6 inches shorter but it weighs so much less. It's also nice to not have it poke your thighs when you climb in and out of a car all day.

    • @pilotswifty03
      @pilotswifty03 Před 6 měsíci +13

      I also carry a P365X (here in FL and I love it) I use the Mag Guts in my 12round mags to get an extra 2 rounds. 14 + 1 is plenty.

    • @saleen692
      @saleen692 Před 6 měsíci

      I’ve seriously debated the WCP365X action tuned

    • @garrettstiles7808
      @garrettstiles7808 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I’ve gone from an XL to a standard for carry due more to weight than grip & slide length, but it all helps it carry easier.

    • @UnfortunateSon_
      @UnfortunateSon_ Před 6 měsíci +12

      I second that. P365x is the perfect middle ground. I got the new slide version that retains the factory night sights with the optic cut. Holosun eps carry on there and the gray guns laser stippled grip to use the 12 rd mags. It’s just absolutely perfect.

    • @thodthverdthur
      @thodthverdthur Před 6 měsíci +3

      That's what I did with my og P365, using the WC XL grip but also a TB w/ micro comp.

  • @adamethridge7824
    @adamethridge7824 Před 6 měsíci +46

    I like how you buy all these yourself and we get honest reviews and thats whats we appreciate about yous jims

    • @JamesReeves
      @JamesReeves  Před 6 měsíci +15

      aw man
      ty

    • @WN_Byers
      @WN_Byers Před 6 měsíci

      @zacsdiyguns well. They are both lawyers 🤣

    • @WN_Byers
      @WN_Byers Před 6 měsíci

      I believe he is inactive out of Texas@@zacsdiyguns

  • @TovHenderson
    @TovHenderson Před 6 měsíci +53

    The P365 XL is also my daily carry for the same reasons. It was a close race between it and the Macro, but the XL won out for concealability. Besides, the XL also can hold 17 if you really want it to. I carry a 17 round mag in mine during cool months when I wear a hoodie.

    • @alfredeneuman6966
      @alfredeneuman6966 Před 4 měsíci +4

      P365XL for me too. Holds sufficient rounds, a longer more comfortable grip, and the barrel is a bit longer. The recoil is less as a result and it is easy to shoot at the range. Still readily concealable. I did add a manual safety, but just preference.

  • @fredrauch1815
    @fredrauch1815 Před 6 měsíci +80

    I came to the same conclusion, for me, the XL is the sweet spot. I put a Wilson Combat grip module on it for better grip.

    • @bleh1323
      @bleh1323 Před 6 měsíci +5

      Agree 100%. The Ikarus grip is also amazing.

    • @JohnZ556
      @JohnZ556 Před 6 měsíci +2

      P365 is a must. Then a 365XL or CR920P(10+1 as short as G43, 13rd spare) for more performance with dot/light. It really starts to print beyond this point, like G48 or G43X. Macro absolutely sucks as a CCW unless someone is used to carry compact-full sized, but then it is still just XL performance + a few more rounds.

    • @matthewblumenthal804
      @matthewblumenthal804 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I did the same. I like it a lot.

    • @nakkajin
      @nakkajin Před 6 měsíci +3

      same, got the 365xl with the WC grip and a holosun and a 17rd macro mag in the sidecar

    • @brucerm01
      @brucerm01 Před 6 měsíci

      I ended up buying a Macro, and then a Wilson combat xl grip module thinking i would switch between the two depending on what I'm wearing. Never took off the Wilson Combat.

  • @aztronomy7457
    @aztronomy7457 Před 4 měsíci +13

    P365 XL slide on the Macro grip module is the best variant. You get the 3.7” barrel (instead of Macro 3.1”). And a longer sight radius. With the 17 rounds. And it looks the best.

    • @bchewpimpin2968
      @bchewpimpin2968 Před 3 měsíci

      There are like 4 different macros, 2 of them having the 3.7” barrel. The regular 365 Macro is full 3.7” same with the 365 Macro Tacops… When going to the 365 Macro Comp and 365 AXG Legion that is where you get the integrated comp with the 3.1” barrel. So no need to do that with your XL slide.

  • @Snapper314
    @Snapper314 Před 6 měsíci +42

    A P365X is what I've got. With a Holosun EPS Carry and a Streamlight TLR7-Sub, it is a very capable and small package.

    • @alvolante4164
      @alvolante4164 Před 6 měsíci

      I’m looking for 365x grip module. Is it known with another name? I’m not having much lock …

    • @Rizzie01
      @Rizzie01 Před 6 měsíci +3

      ​​@@alvolante4164The P365 XL module fits a regular P365 slide. Mate those two together and you have the P365X. Just buy a P365XL module.

    • @brianhaney6984
      @brianhaney6984 Před 2 měsíci

      You have my exact set up and I love it

  • @border411
    @border411 Před 6 měsíci +12

    OG 365 micro with a 15 round mag. Want to go deep concealment? Throw in the 10 or 12 round mags.... Pinky extension is up to you. Ton of options. Easy to make it bigger.... Impossible to make the larger ones smaller.

    • @dragonslayer-ho8ew
      @dragonslayer-ho8ew Před 2 měsíci +1

      yes it is. you just buy a different grip module

    • @border411
      @border411 Před měsícem

      Not going to do that instantly.... Like if you are quickly running out of the house. A mag change takes seconds. Also, cheaper to not have to buy different frames.

  • @maddog8148
    @maddog8148 Před 6 měsíci +20

    P365X is the sweet spot for me. Full size grip 12 rounds short barrel and very easy to hold and conceal all day. Love it!!

    • @bullridermusic2054
      @bullridermusic2054 Před 5 měsíci

      My P365 tac has a full grip with my 15 rd mag and two 12 rd mags, but I have smaller hands. It would still be a full grip with the 15 rounder no matter how big your hands are.

  • @NotHunterCooper
    @NotHunterCooper Před 6 měsíci +3

    To me, the version to get is the P365X. Optics ready P365 slide on an XL body. Grab a WC XL frame or Macro frame for $50, and if you want to go the comp route grab a threaded barrel and Herrington Arms comp. If you want to summertime "speedo carry" all you need is a regular P365 frame to be all set.
    Take advantage of the modularity and save money.

  • @richardefriend
    @richardefriend Před 5 měsíci +3

    You missed the P365 version that's truly the best (since it's pocket carryable): the P365X with 12+1 standard capacity, increased to 14+1 with the addition of the Magguts 14+1 kit. And a combo light laser. And don't forget that with a short barrel, using the correct ammo is essential for EDC, and that ammo is Underwood's 90 gr. Xtreme Defender +P.

    • @fredvStein
      @fredvStein Před 4 měsíci

      any recommendations for laser/light combo that fits the P365X without sticking out past the slide that fits on the proprietary SIG rail? I wish Sig made a variant of the Foxtrot 365 and Lima365 that was a combo, but there's no room for much battery capacity so light output and/or longevity will suffer on such a small package.

  • @griff7749
    @griff7749 Před 6 měsíci +16

    The cool thing is, the XL and the Macro are literally the same gun with different plastic. So you can make it an XL for only the price of a grip module, (and a mag or two if you want flush fit). Summer carry XL and winter carry Macro is easier than ever, basically two guns for the price of one.

    • @dale3123
      @dale3123 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Except they aren't. The macro has an integrated comp.

    • @griff7749
      @griff7749 Před 4 měsíci

      @@dale3123 true, but that doesn't really make or break it for me. An XL with a comp is cool, a macro without it is fine too. Extra barrel length and site radius, or a little less muzzle flip...I don't really care. It's essentially the same gun except the plastic.

  • @justauryon
    @justauryon Před 6 měsíci +8

    I went with the 365x & scored a Holosun 507k due to early Black Friday deals. Couldn’t be happier. I am but a smol woman & while it is snappy, I manage just fine. Love that it’s easy to conceal as well. ❤

    • @5150Reaper
      @5150Reaper Před 6 měsíci +1

      Me too. Love the pickachu pic too.

  • @gregc6661
    @gregc6661 Před 4 měsíci +14

    For me the P365X is perfect! Absolutely love it

  • @sigxm5thumb
    @sigxm5thumb Před 6 měsíci +13

    The Xmacro is my go to being because I’ve used it in a self defense situation and survived only because I had my sig I trust my life with sig regardless what people have to say

  • @SuicidePar
    @SuicidePar Před 6 měsíci +4

    I have the XL. Been conceal carrying it for over a year now and it is still the most comfortable handgun I've ever carried on my person. I also have a mag extension that brings the capacity from 12 to 15 rounds. With the little extension on the 15 round mag, the grip of the weapon feels like it's molded to my hand and I have a little bit more control of the weapon and my reloads are faster. Love it!

  • @themechanic6117
    @themechanic6117 Před 6 měsíci +9

    I have a p365X , it's retaining the small footprint with 12+1 capacity 👍

  • @dtroy15
    @dtroy15 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Thanks for putting these videos together, James. I was a little worried when you started spinning things off from TFBTV but you keep delivering insightful and well-produced content.

  • @Wildwestwrangler
    @Wildwestwrangler Před měsícem +1

    I am blown away by the reliability and round counts that these little pistols are achieving, especially for their size!!! I typically don't expect that kind of service life, out of such small guns!!!

  • @toddoverholt3353
    @toddoverholt3353 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Did we leave out the 365X? Arguably the "best" of the 365s, by some.

  • @MopTop88
    @MopTop88 Před 6 měsíci +4

    My first concealed weapon was the 365 micro and I genuinely love how concealable it is. I bought an X-Macro Comp earlier this year though and am in love with it. I appendix carry and while yes, it's slightly more uncomfortable to carry, it's 100% my go to. The extra capacity and how much less "snappy" it is compared to the micro DWARF the size difference in my book, though I do still like carrying my micro from time to time.

  • @ynotjf
    @ynotjf Před 5 měsíci +3

    Long time 1911 guy, then 7 years of G19, then 5 years of P320 Romeo, finally last 3 years 365xl with Romeo Zero & Romeo Zero Pro. About 1100 rounds zero malfunctions, no issues with the optic and I shoot it better than any of the prior pistols. Old eyes love the reflex sights too..

  • @johndoe-ct7eb
    @johndoe-ct7eb Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you for thanking us. I have the XL and love it. Fits the hand like a glove and maybe the best feeling design I've ever felt in my hand.

  • @henryhawthorn8849
    @henryhawthorn8849 Před 5 měsíci +5

    I’m glad I bought the Sig Sauer p365 xl. I had some second thoughts after I bought it , but now I have no regrets. I can carry the xl inside my pant pockets, which is great.

  • @loosecannon6852
    @loosecannon6852 Před 6 měsíci +10

    The versatility of this whole system is amazing. You can configure what fits your needs. And quickly.

  • @JaronActual
    @JaronActual Před 6 měsíci +6

    I agree with you and many others. The XL is the best compromise between size, concealability, and controllable shooting 9 regular X if you carry appendix ). I've said for years, Sig needs to release an XL grip module with a standard 1913 rail, not the proprietary one. Even better, do it in tungsten infused polymer. Yes, you can get an Icarus or Mischief Machine, but then you're paying just as much for the grip as you are for the rest of the pistol.
    I've never cared for the Macro. Grip is too long, especially with the chonky magazine plates which make printing much worse. Instead of the 3.1" barrel and comp, it should just have been a 4" from the get-go. It's Glock 17 capacity in the size of a Glock 48, but optics-capable, flat trigger, and standard accessory rail. What's not to like?

  • @TeamWagy
    @TeamWagy Před 6 měsíci +5

    The X model offers flat trigger and optic ready, if you want the small module it’s cheap to get and swap, but the added value of the X is worth the upfront price difference

  • @michaelbutler9815
    @michaelbutler9815 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I enjoyed the video as always. I'm a Sig P365 owner, certified armorer and carry it daily. I didn't read all the comments. I think a test with only iron sights and no flashlights on all variations would be a better comparison. Keep the great videos coming. Thanks.

    • @jeremyh.1252
      @jeremyh.1252 Před 2 měsíci

      Do you have the standard P365? Trying to decide on my first ccw and leaning towards the standard just to help me get used to carrying. The XL definitely feels better in the hand but I’m not sure it’ll be comfortable for my first carry.

  • @ThePNWRiderWA
    @ThePNWRiderWA Před 6 měsíci +9

    I had the 365 and I found it snappy with SD ammo and hard to additional rounds on target. So I traded it for the XL that’s a bit bigger but easier overall to shoot and keep in target. I did add the 365 380 and that’s a fine soft shooter

  • @mlrllama
    @mlrllama Před 5 měsíci +2

    XL with Sig Romeo and WC grip module is my current setup. Love it.

  • @loganmcinnis9451
    @loganmcinnis9451 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Best 365 comparison video I've seen. Thanks James!

  • @trenton6621
    @trenton6621 Před 6 měsíci +7

    I've got the standard 365 with the mag guts +2 and the mcarbo titanium striker. Works pretty good

  • @livefreeprintguns
    @livefreeprintguns Před 6 měsíci +7

    I got my M&P on a literal whim over 8 years ago when they first came out which has been my EDC ever since, and even though it has iron sights and no RMR cuts I still find myself not willing to part with it yet because I've also had zero failures or malfunctions with it.

    • @domenik8339
      @domenik8339 Před 6 měsíci +2

      You'll never hear anyone with a sig say that. They seem to be happy with 80% reliability and double the cost.

    • @Simply709
      @Simply709 Před 6 měsíci

      @@domenik8339 I've never had a malfunction in either of my p365 pistols or my p320 Vtac, though I make sure to lube my carry guns with WC oil at least once a week. I EDC my smaller p365 in the summer and a shadow systems MR920 in the winter

    • @great_deception
      @great_deception Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@domenik8339 Comedy, so the best-selling pistol in the country (P365) has 80% reliability? SOCOM just adopted the Spear-L, and about 40+ first-world countries have all placed SIG orders for their militaries or SF. What a stupid comment, I own 9 SIGs and am an FFL, it has been a very long time since anyone who bought a SIG ran into problems. Tell us more about Smith though, the most recalled brand in the gun industry. I love when people have absolutely no idea what they are talking about, you are a real winner.

    • @domenik8339
      @domenik8339 Před 6 měsíci

      @@great_deception Oh you mean the P320 that fires by itself? It's not like there's FBI trials from the 80s where they also document SIG guns firing by itself. Oh wait, yes there is. Well sig makes other things like scopes for the Dept. of homeland defense and those are good right? The thousands of SIG models with the BDCs that are etched so crooked so they don't work and the US gov is having to return them by the truckload? Must have been a bad batch right, which is why it's happening to their Romeo line as well. Well at least they make a decent carry pistol, the P365, which hasn't ever had problems. Except for the striker that breaks off. Well at least it looks good, oh wait it's prone to rusting.
      That better for ya bozo?

    • @great_deception
      @great_deception Před 6 měsíci

      @@domenik8339 I stopped reading in your first sentence, sad to see you side with negligent cops over common sense. Kimber, Ruger, Smith, Glock, Walther and other all at some point had a recall/upgrade program to address a drop fire issue with at least all of their models, yet people don't know about it so they attack SIG for an issue that was resolved six years ago. Prone to rusting lol, maybe for your sweaty CCer that never oils or cleans his guns. The day you can get a post-upgrade P320 and make it fire without a trigger pull in a controlled, documented setting is the day maybe at least 1 person might start listening to you. Give us a source about the DHS BDC problem, A ton of Trijicons and Eotechs were returned by the US gov't for flaws, but I can see in your eyes that only SIG can do wrong.
      Such sad people on here, with their #1 source for firearms info being CZcams.

  • @LockBarrelLounge
    @LockBarrelLounge Před 6 měsíci +1

    Love my XL Spectre Comp, w/ Wilson Combat Grip Module. Holosun micro green dot. Super concealable, slim, yet big enough grip where it doesn't feel too small in hand. Very light, accurate, soft recoil for a micro 9. Sigs simply rock honestly.

  • @uslawman1983
    @uslawman1983 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Great comparisons, James. I have both the P365 and the XL and both have been so reliable and accurate that I don't feel a need to look at the other entries.

  • @ArduousPun
    @ArduousPun Před 6 měsíci +6

    Love this! I love my P365xl with a Wilson Combat grip. You've gotta try it, man! It has slight palm swells, without adding extra bulk. Huge ergo improvements imo.

    • @Jaybird-oo3ih
      @Jaybird-oo3ih Před 4 měsíci

      Agree, I have the Wilson combat grips and it’s been a game changer as far as ergonomics go. I added a TLR 6 to use in the house for home defense if the situation arises.

  • @raykotek8176
    @raykotek8176 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Have the 365x. Absolutely love it. Shoots great

  • @82lowe36id
    @82lowe36id Před 5 měsíci +2

    Had the original right when it came out and I went back to my Shield after a year. Then the P365XL came out and I gave it a try and I have been very pleased with it. I actually find it hard to justify carrying bigger guns since the XL shoots so well and has great capacity for size.

  • @bill-qv3er
    @bill-qv3er Před 5 měsíci +1

    I have had my 365 X Macro Comp for about 6 months and it is my everyday carry. 17 rounds , great gun !!

    • @wildwolf8983
      @wildwolf8983 Před 5 měsíci

      Which state are you located? Any RUST problems with your p365 x macro?

  • @earhornjones
    @earhornjones Před 6 měsíci +4

    I carry an "X" model with a Romeo Zero (hey, it was cheap and it works for me). I feel like that's the "Goldilocks" gun. I get a couple of extra rounds, it fits my hand perfectly, but it's still small enough that it disappears on my belt.

  • @mevans8646
    @mevans8646 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I’ve owned all of the variations except the legion - and now I feel like I’ve found the perfect middle ground. I keep a P365X as my daily EDC and an xmacro comp with a 407K dot and TLR7 sub on it as a larger EDC if I want or need it. IMO this combo gives you the most versatile mix & match slide/grip capabilities depending on how you want to carry on a given day. If I had to pick just one, it would likely be the XL or if you can stretch, the spectre comp.

    • @fredvStein
      @fredvStein Před 4 měsíci

      The P365X is a nice sweet spot with the XL size grip but the smaller slide. A little snappier than the XL to shoot but easier to carry. The XL is a nicer shooter, but less comfortable to carry.

  • @atulganguly73
    @atulganguly73 Před 5 měsíci

    Great review, as always!

  • @ethylead
    @ethylead Před 6 měsíci +2

    Great video James! Been watching your for about three years now and it's so satisfying to see you get better at your craft. The videos just keep getting better and better. How's the gun range business going? Hope you are doing well!

  • @Slavolko
    @Slavolko Před 6 měsíci +14

    You can also get MagGuts spring kits for the P365 and P365X/XL mags to add 2 extra rounds, meaning a very solid option for concealability and performance would be a P365X with a 14-round mag (thanks to MagGuts).

    • @pcpolice7937
      @pcpolice7937 Před 5 měsíci

      I would not trust those magguts with my life. Had waaay too many problems in the M&P Shield magazines

    • @Slavolko
      @Slavolko Před 5 měsíci

      @@pcpolice7937 That's a bummer. I suppose that could be a problem. Maybe I'd find out by testing them on my mags and see how that goes.

    • @fredvStein
      @fredvStein Před 4 měsíci

      @@Slavolko The main issue I hear is that a leaf spring doesn't have the same strength as a coil spring.

    • @Slavolko
      @Slavolko Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@fredvStein Probably. I've heard people say they've either had or not had issues. Ideally, long-term users would report back on how their mags are holding up, so we can have an idea.

  • @gsitzkowitz
    @gsitzkowitz Před 6 měsíci +3

    You missed the p365-380. It’s clearly and by far the most shootable.

  • @pokerbob2277
    @pokerbob2277 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I carry my raw sighted original P365 every day.
    Put the glocks away for home defense etc.
    I’ve carried from Kimber to right to Glock.
    The sig has been my goto for several years. Finally found just the right size for me.
    Good review. I totally agree with your findings.

  • @RickyJr46
    @RickyJr46 Před 5 měsíci

    Nice work James!

  • @007Chancellor
    @007Chancellor Před 6 měsíci +4

    I love, LOVE my P365. It's a standard (what you're calling the "micro") but with a grip module from Wilson Combat making it a P365X. Gives me 12 rounds and is still unbelievably concealable. I'm not into optics on carry guns in general, especially if I'm looking to have it as small as practical. I really feel it is the ultimate deep concealment pistol. The WC grip module means my pinky has a place to go - and it shoots FAST and straight.

    • @tractordirt
      @tractordirt Před 4 měsíci +3

      Good idea…going to look into that. The hang up I have on the “micro” is the mag release…really hard for me to actually. Maybe the Wilson frame will help

  • @Brad-ic4bp
    @Brad-ic4bp Před 6 měsíci +5

    I’m sure I’m not alone is saying the P365X is the best, even if not part of the video. It’s small, light, has a straight trigger and optic plate, and has a full-size grip with 12 round mag. I had the basic/micro originally, but with the extended 12 round mag, the gap between the mag and frame would feel wobbly and pinch my finger when fired. Moving to the XL negates the whole micro-size advantage.

  • @corydailey1486
    @corydailey1486 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I have the 365 and thec365 xl. I carry the 365 in the summer. The 365 xl with extended mag in the winter.
    Very happy with both of them.

  • @jamesf8400
    @jamesf8400 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Great comparison! I have the XL, and agree it’s the perfect size to conceal comfortably. Have been remotely interested in trying the Macro, but haven’t done so yet… it seems like it would be more challenging to carry and not print with it.
    Beside the point of your review but I picked up both the Taurus GX4 and GX4 XL and found that I can shoot both of those better than the P365XL… pretty impressive options for bargain prices. I think they are heavily underrated options.

  • @brianb3628
    @brianb3628 Před 6 měsíci +19

    I’ll admit it - I pocket carry the lighter weight P365 .380 during AZ summers. With the 9mm variants, I see your point - the XL is the best compromise (with the comped slide of course). Thanks for another great video!

    • @likydsplit8483
      @likydsplit8483 Před 6 měsíci +3

      I carry a p365xl with the Wilson combat xl grip - with 12rd mag + a 17rd in my pocket (neomag holder). I also have the p365-380 with the Sig X grip I took off my P365xl, with 12rd .380 mags. I love them both!

    • @user-cz3dn9nl6j
      @user-cz3dn9nl6j Před 5 měsíci

      I got the 365 380 for the wife to try. I shot it to test it out before she did. Each time I took it out I liked it more and more. So much so I ditched my shield for the 365xl in 9mm. The 365xl shoots like a full size gun it’s crazy good

  • @flaco5581
    @flaco5581 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Xl with wilson combat grip module. Since 2019.

  • @minilockwood24
    @minilockwood24 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Big fan of the 365X. Grip is perfect size for my hand, and the shorter barrel length is ideal for concealing. It came with the Romeo zero optic and I hated it for how easily the glass got scratched, covered in dust, and then the battery died. Recently swapped for Sig’s night sight in the rear and already love it!

  • @RizzoUnited9411
    @RizzoUnited9411 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I bought the 356 Legion a few weeks ago and if you are on the fence at all or even thought about it, GET IT! It really is the most amazing pistol and despite what he said about the weight, I'm a 200lb guy and do not notice it much at all. Anyway, great video and great comparison between the models!

  • @Johnny_Cash_Flow
    @Johnny_Cash_Flow Před 6 měsíci +14

    Trick question: the correct answer is a 365 frame with a 365XL slide.
    Gives you maximum concealability with a longer sight radius and barrel.

    • @AustinofDivebomb
      @AustinofDivebomb Před 6 měsíci +1

      I do this as well as bought an XL grip module so I can make basically every variant.

    • @blakebeaton5821
      @blakebeaton5821 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I would go with a macro comp slide, so, you get optics ready and comp which helps with the shorter grip, and you can still use any size 365 mag (e.g. keep a 10 round in the gun and a 17 as a spare in a mag carrier).

    • @domenik8339
      @domenik8339 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Now you can have virtually the same size and weight as a Glock 19, with 3 less rounds. I can't believe the amount of people who think that's an upgrade. Let me see if you're interested in a reverse mortgage next. 😂

    • @justinhc123
      @justinhc123 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@domenik8339any of these are far slimmer than the G19. Therefore for me it’s easier to conceal, plus feels better in the hand and easier to shoot. I’ll pass on the reverse mortgage. (G19 was my first. Still have it. Now it just sits in the truck and collects dust.)

    • @Johnny_Cash_Flow
      @Johnny_Cash_Flow Před 6 měsíci

      @@domenik8339 Wow, a smug guy who is wrong on the internet. How original.
      Comparing my Glock 19 and my Sig 365+, we have the following results:
      Weight: Glock 1.5 lbs, Sig 1.2 lbs (with the attached Streamlight TLR-6 which I couldn't find a small enough allen wrench to take off, so I'm even giving you a few ounces - so it's likely about 1 lb, which is a third of the Glock weight less, for those of you paying attention)
      Length: Glock 7 inch, Sig 6.5 inch (with the XL slide as described in the original comment)
      Height: Glock 4 3/4 inch, Sig 4 3/4 inch (with the 12 round extended pinkie mag)
      Width: Glock just shy of 1 inch, Sig 3/4 inch (again, for those of you who aren't mathematically inclined, that's 1/4 less than the overall width of the Glock 19)
      So, you claimed that the Sig is the same size as a Glock 19. The results show you are wrong.
      You claimed that the Sig is the same weight as the Glock 19. The results show you are wrong.
      This simple test proves exactly what I said in my comment, that what I call the Sig 365+ gives maximum concealability with a longer sight radius and barrel.
      If you're going to talk out of your ass, it's best not to do it in public for the world to see.

  • @jake9705
    @jake9705 Před 6 měsíci +3

    James you recently floated the idea of more varied content like exercise and dieting tips, we accepted it, and still we have not seen it! 😤
    As a long-time TFBtv fan and proud mailroom simp, I demand for New Years 2024 a video re-make of the "James Reeves Skinny Margarita."
    I need to drink away these holiday pounds 🍻

  • @AndySingerOK
    @AndySingerOK Před 6 měsíci

    Have pretty much exclusively carried the P365 for a while but am putting the XL on my wishlist thanks to this video.

  • @GammaRayTrae
    @GammaRayTrae Před 6 měsíci +2

    I went with the macro I couldn’t help wanting more rounds and the longer grip that fits my hands better. But all of these are great options.

  • @TheHonarable1
    @TheHonarable1 Před 6 měsíci +3

    The P365 is just a phenomenal platform regardless which one you decide to go with. Personally I think the sweet spot is the 365X with the Wilson grip. Out of the ones you tested..I agree, definitely the XL.

    • @themechanic6117
      @themechanic6117 Před 6 měsíci

      Does Wilson combat make a grip for the 365X ? I was just on their website and didn't see a option for the 365X

    • @TheHonarable1
      @TheHonarable1 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@themechanic6117 The Wilson Combat P365XL grip module works on the P365x slide. The WC grip just feels so much better especially if your replacing the micro 365 grip imo

    • @fredvStein
      @fredvStein Před 4 měsíci

      @TheHonarable1 So you prefer the shorter slide of the P365X over the longer slide of the P365XL? Interesting, I've read some people don't like the snappiness of the shorter slide on the X and the XL is quicker between shots, but others say the X is more comfortable for daily carry than the XL. What's your take?

    • @TheHonarable1
      @TheHonarable1 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@fredvStein Imo the shorter slide shoots incredibly well and the longer slide doesn't shoot that much better to sacrifice "365" carrying comfort.

    • @themechanic6117
      @themechanic6117 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @TheHonarable1 I like the X because of its compact size. I have other guns that are larger and heavier. I only bought the 365x for the sole purpose of easy to carry so I see no reason to go with the longer slide. For my situation it defeats the purpose

  • @M1911jln
    @M1911jln Před 6 měsíci +4

    I think the macro barrel and slide on the XL grip might be the best combination.

    • @braydenkenney3313
      @braydenkenney3313 Před 6 měsíci

      I have the WC xl module and my macro slide on it is amazing. Unfortunately I do have to get a different holster if I want to carry it that way.

    • @griff7749
      @griff7749 Před 6 měsíci

      I mean, that combination is literally an XL, not sure what you mean. Unless you mean porting, but I'd not choose porting for the macro

  • @scottstinger6548
    @scottstinger6548 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Sig has offer out right now. Any X macro purchase between October 4th and December 15th..gets 3 free additional mags.😁

  • @edxlee
    @edxlee Před 6 měsíci +2

    I went with p365 in .380 and XMacro(originally XL, changed the grip) in 9mm, best of both worlds.

  • @seanridner1385
    @seanridner1385 Před 6 měsíci +18

    As some have pointed out, XL Wilson Combat grip module is the way to go. I topped mine off with an X Macro slide and it is 🤌
    Edit: Also forgot Magguts follower and spring, having a 14+1 rather than a 12+1 makes the XL size a no brainer

    • @ArduousPun
      @ArduousPun Před 6 měsíci

      100% agree. It's a complete game changer.

    • @JNOSNOW
      @JNOSNOW Před 6 měsíci

      I do xl with magguts and the icarus hybrid module

    • @TrojanManSCP
      @TrojanManSCP Před 6 měsíci +3

      This is the complete and correct answer. Buy the Macro as the complete pistol. Get the Wilson XL grip. Use the factory Macro mags for range/training/reload and use a "12rd" with the magguts (to make 15) in the gun for carry. When sizing holsters for that, you want the XL compatible ones. The Wilson grip texture is aggressive - plan to wear an undershirt if you like the grip to press in against your torso.
      Do NOT get the "ported/comp" slide - it doesn't noticeably do anything to recoil, does make it noticeably louder/harsher, and you sacrifice a bit of accuracy with the shorter barrel. You want the 3.7" barrel.
      Last item, do note that if you get a Shield RMS-c (or many other optics), the correct thread and length screws are likely NOT provided. You cannot re-use the slide plate cover screws either, they'll only grab half a thread, if anything at all. The correct thread diameter and pitch is M3x0.5. Shield optics take a 12mm length and a countersunk head. Other models may need a different length or head style.

    • @formerpilgrim4934
      @formerpilgrim4934 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I went all in with the 365. The non-ported XL slides have fantastic accuracy potential. Wilson module "fits my hand better", and helps speed things up on multiple target and Bill Drill stuff.
      Kinda feels weird to find a pistol that you're completely happy with.
      Every time I buy a new pistol now, it's just a different SKU of 365.

    • @griff7749
      @griff7749 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@TrojanManSCPYou're dead right. I had the XL for a while, then it went to my wife and I got the Macro tac-ops and a Wilson combat XL grip. Now I've got my old gun, plus a Macro, and my wife has an XL. So many options on the table with this platform

  • @wildmanjeff42
    @wildmanjeff42 Před 6 měsíci +6

    I think my stock original P365 no mods is my favorite gun. 365XL is awesome as well, fits my med glove sized hand perfect, but that original is almost always in my pocket.

  • @garrett2300
    @garrett2300 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I went with the macro and also purchased a wilson combat XL frame which is easy to swap out and the stippling is very good

  • @roblowe9283
    @roblowe9283 Před 3 měsíci

    Awesome as Always

  • @Eric-kw1lu
    @Eric-kw1lu Před 6 měsíci +4

    As a guy with small hands and a smaller frame, I got the original 365 and a T1C holster w/sidecar with the goal of carrying something as small as possible that I can still shoot well.
    I love it and I can shoot the smallest version very accurately if I am dry firing it regularly.
    The original is like tucking a deck of cards into your waistband.

  • @mrmattie7
    @mrmattie7 Před 5 měsíci +4

    How about the p365 x not the xl

  • @nmbr5ml
    @nmbr5ml Před 6 měsíci

    I have the 'micro' with a red dot. I did have to shop around for a lower-profile red dot, but it disappears in a pocket holster in regular jeans. It fits a little running pack (that doesn't look like any gun would fit in it) and it means being not just minimally equipped, but pretty well equipped --all the time. It's pretty revolutionary.

  • @rlwashburn1278
    @rlwashburn1278 Před 3 měsíci

    First time seeing one of your videos. Great review all while being entertaining and funny as hell.

  • @commanderdonut
    @commanderdonut Před 6 měsíci +3

    I went from carrying a G19M to the XMacro Comp, got a EPS Carry for it; very pleased

  • @TheFarGaurd
    @TheFarGaurd Před 6 měsíci +4

    The ones that shoot by themselves 😉

  • @scooter5940
    @scooter5940 Před 6 měsíci

    There are so many good options out there, but I love this platform. My go-to is a 365XL Spectre (non-compensated) which has a nice laser-engraved grip module. I also have a P365 that I sometimes grab, that I added a Sig flat trigger to, as well as an aftermarket grip module (forget which brand - has nice stippling). Finally, I picked up a nice aftermarket stippled Macro grip module and picked up a couple of 17-round magazines. The XL slide, barrel and of course striker assembly fit nicely to make what is essentially a Macro. That said, I just don't often want the extra grip length and additional weight (mostly from the extra rounds) of the Macro (none of my carry guns have lights or optics - I'm kind of a minimalist).

  • @freedomsquid7414
    @freedomsquid7414 Před 6 měsíci

    I am so glad you are doing your own thing. Rock on Brother!

  • @ryqarst4690
    @ryqarst4690 Před 6 měsíci +5

    The sig that doesn't fire itself would be a nice start.

    • @domenik8339
      @domenik8339 Před 6 měsíci +2

      It gets worse when you find out that sig has been producing pistols that fire by themselves all the way back to the 80s, and they failed to fix the issue in 50 years. The FBI even reported that they have a sig fire by itself in the 80s when it was being evaluated.

    • @rudrashakti108
      @rudrashakti108 Před 5 měsíci

      Calling bullshit on both of your idiot comments.

  • @alaskanstrat6618
    @alaskanstrat6618 Před 6 měsíci +4

    The best SIG is hands down the Glock 45 MOS , facts , fight me nerds !

  • @I_name_All_my_guns
    @I_name_All_my_guns Před 6 měsíci

    I've been edc the XL for a few years now. With the right holster this firearm just feels perfect.

  • @davidbarnes7999
    @davidbarnes7999 Před 21 hodinou

    great review!!
    I bought the p365x tac-pac and carry that 3 days a week to work because deep concealment is priority and I’m sitting in a vehicle most of those 3 days. The rest of the time I switched from a glock 26 as edc to the xmacro w/holosun 507k as edc. And it’s been a great decision.

  • @Sig_P229
    @Sig_P229 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Sig P239 or P229

  • @noHandle1776
    @noHandle1776 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Hint, it’s still the Glock 19

  • @Predator0220
    @Predator0220 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Ive had all of them and finally settled on the Xmacro Tacops, its the do it all gun in my opinion.

  • @jonathanF80
    @jonathanF80 Před 6 měsíci

    Love the XL . My local shop had a sale package. 2x 15-round mags , range bag, and 1 flush 12rnd mag. I bought a $400 edc and put 9k rounds during the pandemic. Once I mastered my shots, I traded it in for a nicer pew. Sig ❤

    • @nmdesignco
      @nmdesignco Před 6 měsíci +1

      The 15rders are now impossible to find... nice score!

  • @CS-ij7cd
    @CS-ij7cd Před 6 měsíci +5

    Glock. Glock is what you should get.

    • @hodor3024
      @hodor3024 Před 6 měsíci +3

      nah.

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      @Sig_P229 Před 6 měsíci

      Yes. Be frozen in time to the 80’s. There certainly are no better models today.
      I am just Glock patents are up so clones can show Glock what they could have been

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      @flaco5581 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I got a glock in 1989, but fortunately, I was able to get rid of it in 1990.😅

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  • @floridahdshooter
    @floridahdshooter Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great Video!! I carry the XL with the macro 17rd mag and a TLR light with the same holosun optic you mentioned in your video. Has been 100% and I shoot it well. It seems like Sig comes out with a new verson of the 365 every week and I am tempted but I just have not taken the bait with such a solid performer. This video was all i needed to know to stick with a winner. Thanks.. and since I live in your bro's city and go to LA all the time.. I just might have to take a pilgrimage to the best gunrange in the south and check it out..

  • @eindride1268
    @eindride1268 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Preordered the Axg Legion, cant wait for it. I feel like the best choice (if you're a shooting hobbyist) is just to pick it up, and then pick up an Xl frame, that way i have a thin profile home defense gun, or a smaller and lighter carry choice.
    I say while already having 2 choices for both home defense and carry 😂

  • @pickeljarsforhillary102
    @pickeljarsforhillary102 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Which Sig?
    I choose the Glock.

  • @PoliticallyInsensitive
    @PoliticallyInsensitive Před 6 měsíci +3

    None, sub compacts suck.

  • @davidbaize4825
    @davidbaize4825 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I chose the XL version, with the Romeo zero. Love it!!!

  • @benzinocoleone
    @benzinocoleone Před 6 měsíci +1

    I have the old 365X without the X on the slide, Not optics ready with a 12 round capacity but very reliable. And I love it.Wont screw with it at all.

  • @danielkiefer8134
    @danielkiefer8134 Před 4 měsíci

    Love you videos man. Thanks

  • @tallxbones90
    @tallxbones90 Před 6 měsíci

    P365 XL is my first pistol. I just got it in September. I really like it. Great video.

  • @audwingreen
    @audwingreen Před 6 měsíci

    You got it right this time again ,as always.👍🏿

  • @Tuleyne
    @Tuleyne Před 5 měsíci +2

    I have the 365xl with the Wilson Combat grip module; it is stellar.