Black Frieza Vs Perfect Cell Max

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  • @justinsden
    @justinsden  Před rokem +1254

    So many people are confused on me saying that Broly "Stood up to Gogeta Blue." The definition of standing up to someone is to "defend yourself against a powerful person". By that definition, Broly stood up to Gogeta Blue. He didn't WIN, but he stood up to him. LOL

    • @InkBlotts
      @InkBlotts Před rokem +230

      Broly was getting his shit ran by Gogeta blue 💀

    • @mug281
      @mug281 Před rokem +28

      @@InkBlotts I’m guessing you are trolling.

    • @BrylanTheBard
      @BrylanTheBard Před rokem +18

      ​@@InkBlotts I don't recall vegito and broly ever meeting

    • @burningflame1031
      @burningflame1031 Před rokem +87

      He didn't stand up to gogeta blue wym, not only did gogeta not use his full power, but broly didn't hit him a single time when he went blue, the most he did was get bullied and take hits without dying

    • @InkBlotts
      @InkBlotts Před rokem +11

      @@BrylanTheBard god damnit, hate auto correct one sec and i'll edit

  • @meatballs7047
    @meatballs7047 Před rokem +1456

    Still can't imagine bro trained 10 years just to get an N word pass.

    • @Jokes_on_D
      @Jokes_on_D Před rokem +26

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @Jokes_on_D
      @Jokes_on_D Před rokem +33

      Worth it! 🤣

    • @st4ne4rmthevill63
      @st4ne4rmthevill63 Před rokem +4

      Thought it was a year?

    • @bawstonbredbeantownsfinest5249
      @bawstonbredbeantownsfinest5249 Před rokem +16

      @@st4ne4rmthevill63 Black Frieza trained for 10 years inside of another version of the the Hyperbolic Time Chamber/Room of Spirit and time. There are more then one so we don't know how long he was actually in it in standard time but time moves different in there. The version of it on earth 1 day in the room is equivlant to a year passing by. In the morro arc goku and Meerus trained on meerus's ship which had a similar abilty where a few hours or days in this one room was the equivlant of a few months of training but that may have been meerus using his divine powers.

    • @azulcloud9351
      @azulcloud9351 Před rokem +4

      Friendly fire is not tolerated

  • @douglepong
    @douglepong Před rokem +2045

    Whoever does the writing for this series must have the easiest job ever. Every character just gets a colour change, and is now considered stronger.

    • @erikhernandezzz9272
      @erikhernandezzz9272 Před rokem +269

      yea now everybody got the power to stand up to goku and vegetas god levels lol this shit damn near the imagination of a little kid

    • @IKnowWhatYouDid3
      @IKnowWhatYouDid3 Před rokem +122

      I must admit it's getting a little ridiculous, I miss the Zamasu arc

    • @mikelawry23
      @mikelawry23 Před rokem +149

      Exactly absolutely no creative transformations anymore… this is why Dbz will always be better than super

    • @thejuiceking2219
      @thejuiceking2219 Před rokem +152

      'how did they get stronger?'
      'they trained'
      'and what does that training entail?'
      'i dunno, they just trained, like, a lot'
      'doing what exactly?'
      'i just said, training'

    • @TheProfessor66
      @TheProfessor66 Před rokem +4

      Toiryama writes the series

  • @virgiltoms5701
    @virgiltoms5701 Před rokem +962

    The power scaling in dragon ball is just fuckin everywhere at this point

    • @yoshi9538
      @yoshi9538 Před rokem +77

      I got tired of power scales during Battle of Gods and subsequent DB: Super, and now this bullshit ass Cell Max can contend with The Legendary Super Saiyan, tis the reason I just haven't had the hype to watch DB Super Hero

    • @kennedylemon5837
      @kennedylemon5837 Před rokem +64

      I just lost track on who tf is the most powerful rn. Next they’ll be telling me goku is more powerful than the creator of existence or some bullshit

    • @curtisjeffries9640
      @curtisjeffries9640 Před rokem +22

      Dragonball is dead

    • @Player-gx1eo
      @Player-gx1eo Před rokem +17

      ​@@yoshi9538 yup, Broly is the biggest bullsh*t in dragon ball and now this. DB starting to look like One Punch Man satire

    • @lightskindog
      @lightskindog Před rokem +6

      @@Player-gx1eo wtf are you talking about if youve actually watched the anime you'd know that they stated who was the strongest

  • @commissarthorne3894
    @commissarthorne3894 Před rokem +134

    Man's saying cell max is an improvement in the same sentence of mentioning cell max *can't regenerate* and has a damn *crit spot* on his head lmao

    • @proproductions4671
      @proproductions4671 Před rokem +18

      I was about to say, Cell was the perfect android no pun intended but the og cell was far more superior,

    • @ReiChiquita567
      @ReiChiquita567 Před rokem +8

      Cell max doesnt have in the imperfrct form, the perfect form could have these abilities we just dont know

    • @ShaDowOne90
      @ShaDowOne90 Před rokem

      As you say a weakling

    • @diamond5423
      @diamond5423 Před 10 měsíci +1

      ​@@ReiChiquita567he was perfect it's stated in the movie his mind was complete yet

    • @bowiemtl
      @bowiemtl Před měsícem +2

      right? I think the original cell would've gotten stronger within a year of training judging by Frieza's potential

  • @Theman-mk6xt
    @Theman-mk6xt Před rokem +893

    Ngl I wish there was some residue left of Cell Max, so another arc of Perfect Cell Max could be a thing to really see his potential. DB still has a lot of potential to build upon the series

    • @justinsden
      @justinsden  Před rokem +91

      I agree. They say Cell Max is a completely different entity from the original Cell, but if it were possible for Max to become complete, it would’ve been so cool to see.

    • @lucazaroli6761
      @lucazaroli6761 Před rokem +15

      Dr hedo and bulma could work together to make a superhero perfect cell max, who knows🤷‍♂️

    • @ithinkimanaries2620
      @ithinkimanaries2620 Před rokem +17

      It’s actually amazing how after almost 30 years dragon ball still has so many potential ways they can build upon an already legendary story

    • @reddfeather8007
      @reddfeather8007 Před rokem

      ​@@ELIGOHUMBLEyeah that's definitely bullshit.

    • @flamingcat1101
      @flamingcat1101 Před rokem +3

      ​@@ELIGOHUMBLE what are you blabbering on about?

  • @HomellAlcautor
    @HomellAlcautor Před rokem +281

    Right now, Black Frieza seems unstoppable. There's a reason why the next arc isn't about him.

    • @bagofish8511
      @bagofish8511 Před rokem +57

      Agreed. Bro is back to his power difference when he was introduced😂

    • @Aiken_wang
      @Aiken_wang Před rokem +37

      @@bagofish8511 correct yo he is the emperor of the universe again

    • @IH8COMERCIALRNB
      @IH8COMERCIALRNB Před rokem +8

      He appeared unstoppable the first time also, in fact arguably, he was far superior than all the main characters the first time; hundred of millions x as powerful; and the odds still got tipped in Goku's favor when he discovered super saiyan. I don't think Frieza is at that level anymore; although I want him to stick around because he's my favorite enemry character followed by goku black. Cell I think would be a problem; but there's no way Cell (in his right mind) would take the side of Goku against his potential ally (at the end of dbz, and also gt).

    • @goldpieceleo
      @goldpieceleo Před rokem +4

      But remember Cell Max is few years away from Black Frieza so Cell Max is probably stronger than Black Frieza. Dragon Ball logic.

    • @Leg1503
      @Leg1503 Před rokem +1

      And black frieza probably trains consistently seeing as he went through 10 yrs in a time chamber.

  • @senatorarmstrong7071
    @senatorarmstrong7071 Před rokem +189

    I mean, Toriyama said a Perfect Cell Max would give Broly trouble.
    *What people fail to realize is that Broly is one of the few reasons WHY Frieza bothered training for a new form to begin with.*

    • @middlelevelrucksack7693
      @middlelevelrucksack7693 Před rokem +19

      Let's be real here. Cell is Broly but better, or at least he SHOULD be. Cell has sayain DNA, meaning he gets zenkais when he heals from a beating.
      Cell has piccolo's DNA, meaning he should be able to heal as he fights gaining Zenkai's at the cost of energy. We dont know Cells exact specs, but If his healing was upgraded along with getting infinite energy like 17/18, then Cell could do what Broly does but better. Sure, imperfect Cell max doesn't have Regen, but perfect Cell max my be a different story.
      So Cell could fight freiza, be beaten, spawn Cell juniors, and use them to tank frieza's hits as he heals and fights. Eventually Cell gets the upper hand and freiza gets too winded to continue.

    • @flowsenpai9961
      @flowsenpai9961 Před rokem +5

      what you fail to realize is...broly loses to ssjb goku and vegeta

    • @senatorarmstrong7071
      @senatorarmstrong7071 Před rokem +34

      @@flowsenpai9961 They literally had to fuse in order to be on par with him. Did you not watch the movie?

    • @flowsenpai9961
      @flowsenpai9961 Před rokem +10

      @@senatorarmstrong7071 current ssjb goku and vegeta surpassed ssjb gogeta from the broly arc...have you not been reading the manga?

    • @senatorarmstrong7071
      @senatorarmstrong7071 Před rokem +17

      @Flow Senpai So the current duo that got bodied by Granolah, folded by Gas, and one-shot by Frieza?
      Gooood, they're stronger than Broly, *yeah so is everyone else.*

  • @duoxysm8442
    @duoxysm8442 Před rokem +173

    Perfect Cell Max is the cell we deserved

    • @willjohnboy
      @willjohnboy Před rokem +31

      Except with no regeneration and a weak spot lol.

    • @LikablSouL
      @LikablSouL Před 3 měsíci +2

      Fr perfect cell would probably be smart and can use all of his previous abilities

    • @user-zs6df9sb4i
      @user-zs6df9sb4i Před 2 měsíci +2

      He was no fun at all. Just a brute. Spopovich had more character

    • @bigmacsauce3752
      @bigmacsauce3752 Před měsícem

      @@user-zs6df9sb4iright they ruined him making him a mindless beast that grew huge.. also I think it would been way more entertaining having Gohan transform and then having an awesome battle with him.. not just completely outclassing

  • @justinsden
    @justinsden  Před rokem +70

    This is something I’ve been thinking about a lot. I haven’t watched any videos on it, so these are my thoughts right out the gate. Let me know what you guys think! 🤔💭

    • @maxmarenghi601
      @maxmarenghi601 Před rokem +2

      They mean TRAINED Broly. Gohan went form buu saga to pre TOP SSB in a few hours of training. Broly is getting training from the martial artist Goku, who has dipped in the techniques of the gods. Meaning that, as Broly was stated to be the strongest man NUMEROUS times, it at the very least makes him decently above Goku, and, at the most, puts him above black Frieza. Also, Cell max saw Gogeta fuse, meaning that he can create cell Juniors as strong as himself, fuse with them, and use godly techniques like TUI and UE, since he saw those, aswell. So, multiple far above TUI Goku Cells fusing and using god forms with multipliers far above forms that have lowballed multipliers of 100K could easily oneshot black frieza. Hax and technique-based forms have gotten strong enough by super to the point that people like Cell need mental nerfs, and MASSIVE ones at that.

    • @sallypretzels2494
      @sallypretzels2494 Před rokem

      Max Marenghi bro I think with this power cell might have the strength to take whis’ lunch money

    • @z-uwu4687
      @z-uwu4687 Před rokem +1

      Broly could not handle Gogeta blue what is you on about man got bodied when they fused

    • @maxmarenghi601
      @maxmarenghi601 Před rokem

      @@sallypretzels2494 That’s a lowball. He can fuse with clones, pop out already fused clones, fuse with them, etc., etc. he could increase his power at an exponential rate. In a few minutes of doing that he could, most likely, enhance his power billions of times excluding the god form techniques he built up. This is only if he did that for a few mins prep, btw. Also, they could’ve seen hit’s timeskip, which cell max could enhance to minutes to use to fuse before battles.

    • @CrazeWayYT
      @CrazeWayYT Před rokem +2

      You do realize that a Perfected Cell Max is just normal Cell Max but with a brain, right? He wouldn't transform into a Red Perfect Cell, he would look exactly the same, just be able to think.

  • @TheKG636
    @TheKG636 Před rokem +91

    I actually really disliked cell max he was just a brainless villain, it would have been good to see the old cell return, intellect and wit intact.

    • @GamersVersus
      @GamersVersus Před rokem +4

      In series yes but in movie, I think not

    • @jetstreamsam6785
      @jetstreamsam6785 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Cell max’s brain was not fully finished thanks to piccolo invading the Red Ribbon Army base where cell max was being worked on

    • @Tr1cst4r
      @Tr1cst4r Před 5 měsíci +4

      You couldn't write a winning z fighter story if cell max would have been perfected though.

    • @arigo1015
      @arigo1015 Před měsícem

      100% agree

    • @arigo1015
      @arigo1015 Před měsícem

      ​@Tr1cst4r But you could. Look at og perfect cell he outclassed everyone when he was first shown and yet they still won.

  • @GrayDino1031
    @GrayDino1031 Před rokem +13

    God damn I want Cell back. That concept for Perfect Cell Max is so cool.

  • @zuarodhart271
    @zuarodhart271 Před rokem +11

    Perfected cell max, would have regeneration and wouldn't have a weak spot... it's perfect duhh🚫🧢💯

  • @lucazaroli6761
    @lucazaroli6761 Před rokem +58

    After watching superhero I had my own theory that after Dr hedo joined capsulecorp, he and bulma got to work on making a superhero perfect cell max™️(brought to you by capsulecorp) to join the good guys in the new super anime. And maybe it’ll secretly get too intelligent and become an antagonist again in the future.

    • @GreenZeusmask
      @GreenZeusmask Před rokem +6

      I'd love to see cell as a good guy fighting along side goku and vegeta vs black freiza and they even train cell max aswell with broly and goku and vegeta.

    • @jasonverdusco4838
      @jasonverdusco4838 Před rokem +3

      Ngl seems like a really cool idea especially to see this cell be an ally first before turningnantagonist

    • @Iswhatitis321
      @Iswhatitis321 Před rokem

      ​@@jasonverdusco4838maybe they dumb down his intelligence until they figure out he's an ally, then upgrade his system? Bit when he upgrades, he secretly becomes a heel when he one shots goku or vegeta and takes sides with frieza. Then they need Brody and gohan/piccolo to possibly win.

    • @ShaDowOne90
      @ShaDowOne90 Před rokem

      This would be good, and it is needed against frieza

    • @goofyahdemoman1134
      @goofyahdemoman1134 Před 19 dny

      Didn’t hedo get jailed in the manga?

  • @lornamendoza6346
    @lornamendoza6346 Před rokem +45

    How people think Frieza became very strong: *Train for 10 years*
    How he actually did it: *1 push up*

  • @DoffyTheHeavenlyDemon-sj7tn
    @DoffyTheHeavenlyDemon-sj7tn Před 10 měsíci +4

    Everybody's gangsta until super perfect cell max pulls up

  • @sallypretzels2494
    @sallypretzels2494 Před rokem +207

    The perfect cell max idea is such a good theory it should become true

    • @justinsden
      @justinsden  Před rokem +15

      I completely agree. Its such an amazing look too.

    • @sallypretzels2494
      @sallypretzels2494 Před rokem +3

      What I think makes this a good theory is how could he achieve perfection AND how strong he’d be even without training. Can you imagine just absorbing 1 or 2 guys and now you can face guys like the gods of destruction

    • @conradlorgar5508
      @conradlorgar5508 Před rokem +1

      We have enough "popular z design but with a new color" characters

    • @Mat_mep
      @Mat_mep Před rokem +4

      It was already perfected, although the carbon body was, it’d still be the same giant, just more sane, same design and everything, the idea of perfect cell max wasn’t a concept Dr. Hedo was thinking about since he didn’t want to be like his grandfather, so it was just one Android who was already perfect, just unstable power and insanity due to magenta unleashing him too early

    • @randomguy8140
      @randomguy8140 Před rokem +2

      Cell max was already in his version of a perfect form his mind was just out of it due to just being awoken earlier than planned and hedo thought that having him have to absorb androids again would just be setting him back and bc it gave toriyama an excuse not to draw the spots again since he didn’t like having to do it the first time

  • @Obsidianskin
    @Obsidianskin Před rokem +88

    Giving it to Blk frieza
    Perfected cell would still have the saiyan personality of a prime saiyan allowing frieza to exploit that sine that probably won't even happen cell max as he is now is toast .. and also..
    Blk freiza claps current goku and vegeta even if gamma 1/2 and cell max currently beat them goku and vegeta felt how outrageous freiza was, decided to train on beerus planet and included broly because they felt how powerful he was and they are literally narratively saving frieza as the next big bad lmao , 10 yrs + potential whacks my fav lab rat experiment cell

    • @supermarrioo-sam8320
      @supermarrioo-sam8320 Před rokem +1

      well cell max perfected probably beats frieza easily because toriyama himself said in interviews that even piccolo stands up to goku so with that logic in mind perfected cell max is probably beating frieza because piccolo lost to cell max beasat gohan 1 shot cell max and we already know or alot of people do that gohan beast vs black frieza is a close fight then perfect cell stomps black frieza lol

    • @MatthewBlack05
      @MatthewBlack05 Před rokem +4

      @@supermarrioo-sam8320 Black frieza didn't even have to try to beat goku and vegeta and gas so it's kinda hard to decide.

    • @MatthewBlack05
      @MatthewBlack05 Před rokem

      If you are confused why i said gas. Gas wished to be the strongest in the universe since frieza wasn't in that universe but in another dimension it didn't count him but when he got out of the dimension and came to the fight he one shotted gas and then stomped with 0 difficulty and then destroyed goku and vegeta with also 0 difficulty.

    • @supermarrioo-sam8320
      @supermarrioo-sam8320 Před rokem

      @@MatthewBlack05 Well if a non full power 2nd form cell Max can get 1 shorted by beast Gohan then a non out of control cell Max would be hard to deal with and honestly I wouldn't be surprised if we learnt that even beast Gohan could 1 shot both goku and Vegeta fully powered as it was said in the promotional material that this was the strongest battle in history now if we're talking manga and anime this could be stronger then Moro vs Goku and even SSB vegito vs fused zamasu which was said to be stronger then beerus if it's not at least its mui Goku or SSB gogeta level

    • @jocoolshow
      @jocoolshow Před rokem +1

      @@supermarrioo-sam8320 Gohan definitely one shotting Goku and Vegeta. He 2 shotted Cell Max who’s stomped Orange Piccolo that’s = to Super Hero Goku who’s stronger than any version of anime and manga Goku that takes place before this arc

  • @Jab-lx1xf
    @Jab-lx1xf Před rokem +4

    Him:the winner might be hard to call
    Also him: bro just one easy deathbeam to the head is enough

  • @cherenmertens
    @cherenmertens Před rokem +3

    If Cell has Frieza DNA it implies that he could also do the kind of training Frieza did on top of his Zenkai boosting Saiyan DNA. It's so amazing to think about the potential he could reach if he actually bothered to train instead of just eating people to power up

  • @flaminggaming143
    @flaminggaming143 Před rokem +5

    Who was able to stand up to Gogeta blue???
    Bruh we watched different movies then, cause i remember broly getting STOMPED ON by gogeta before he even went blue

    • @danielgonzalez-vm5lj
      @danielgonzalez-vm5lj Před rokem

      He actually stood up to ssj gogeta when broly went full power ssj ( the green hair form that is not lss) he took a punch in the face from ssj gogeta and barely flinched

  • @natesarfo
    @natesarfo Před rokem +3

    I guess I’m the only one who hates the idea of Cell Max…. How can Cell ever be better than PERFECTION

  • @noblelazarus5815
    @noblelazarus5815 Před rokem +3

    This is also a broly who’s been receiving god training and has the highest latent potential of anyone. Showed up post TOP able to fold gods without any real training at all. I think we underestimate how strong a trained broly might actually be given that whenever frieza or gohan (the other huge potential guys) train they catch up or surpass everyone in no time at all

  • @gameshow_69
    @gameshow_69 Před rokem +5

    I feel like people tend to forget that Cell Max has this giant ball at the end of his tail. wouldn’t be able to make any Cell Jrs.

    • @evilejxd3385
      @evilejxd3385 Před rokem

      He clearly said a perfected cell max not the second form cell max. Perfect cell doesn’t have a tail.

    • @gameshow_69
      @gameshow_69 Před rokem

      @@evilejxd3385 then how did Perfect Cell make the Cell Juniors?

    • @MrJonezy541
      @MrJonezy541 Před rokem +1

      ​@@evilejxd3385 We don't actually know what Perfect cell Max looks like, but it stands to reason he would also have the spike ball at the end of his tail in his perfected form, since the original cell never lost his sucker through all his forms.

    • @arigo1015
      @arigo1015 Před měsícem

      ​@@evilejxd3385He does he just shrinks and extends it from behind his "wings"? When needed.

  • @lonewolffang
    @lonewolffang Před rokem +5

    Another theory to me is if they got some of Frieza's DNA and applied it to Cell Max like they did the Z fighters before the Android Saga. My only question is would that give him a power boost?

  • @heyitshellfire9153
    @heyitshellfire9153 Před rokem +3

    I’m confuse on how the idea of “perfected cell max” came to be, cell max isn’t the actual cell, he’s dead, long gone, this cell is a completely different depiction him

    • @alphatrion100
      @alphatrion100 Před rokem +1

      Remember the Dragonballs?
      No one is ever really dead.
      Cell is just in hell right now.

  • @WhiteWolf_-lp9dz
    @WhiteWolf_-lp9dz Před rokem +1

    Bro, once super was done, those forms for characters went out of bounds, there are so many variations and timelines with different power levels. Just confusing as hell

  • @sooptyme6377
    @sooptyme6377 Před rokem +2

    bro why tf cell gone mc donalds mode

  • @erikedward283
    @erikedward283 Před rokem +20

    Broly wasn’t able to stand up against a Gogeta blue once gogeta went blue Broly was just survive in at that point now he was going to toe to toe with a super Saiyan Gogeta

    • @crayrayprod.
      @crayrayprod. Před rokem +1

      And he needed to be teleported by the dragon balls too😂 idk what this guy saying. Broly got stomped by gogeta

    • @theycallmejay2310
      @theycallmejay2310 Před rokem

      @@crayrayprod. Like are you guys stupid he didnt say broly was stronger or equal to him he said broly stood up to gogeta ssjb let me explain it better goku tui and vegeta ue where one shotted at the same time by frieza and done broly could eat all of gogeta his attacks without a problem only the last kamehameha would finish him but other attacks didnt do shit to broly gogeta cant one shit him either the only problem there was that broly couldnt do shit is he was out of control it was even stated that if broly could controll his power there that he would beat gogeta ssjb and we saw that broly didnt even had problems with eating all of gogeta his attacks meanwhile vegeta ue and goku tui couldnt even eat a single punch from frieza and broly didnt even know how to dodge he was only eating attacks and not even going down gogeta didnt even try to defeat him at that point he wanted him dead aswell

    • @nenjutsu4149
      @nenjutsu4149 Před 6 měsíci

      You guys really thought that was full power Broly? You guys are clowns..

  • @LUCKYRASTA5136
    @LUCKYRASTA5136 Před rokem +5

    I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT 👀

  • @jorgemargenat2277
    @jorgemargenat2277 Před rokem +3

    Did you forget how DB works? If tomorrow tao pai pai became the Next main villain he would be UI level +. So Freezer VS Cell id just a matter of which one was released the last as a main villain.
    Also if Freezer was fighting Cell as part of the Z-fighters you could bet that he would be a lot weaker than Cell. And that also goes for Cell.

  • @avskull128
    @avskull128 Před rokem +1

    I kind of wish they have more interesting cultural stories, I understand dragon ball is a power scaling show but it would be nice to see it fleshed out a little bit more.

  • @hamborger24
    @hamborger24 Před rokem +4

    Remember that perfect cell max can transform into super Saiyan

  • @dontavius_x
    @dontavius_x Před rokem +5

    broly did NOT stand up to gogeta blue he whooped his ass after he went blue bro was defending himself to the best of his ability 💀

    • @capo900
      @capo900 Před rokem

      He still needed blue for broly He skipped every other form after super saiyan and went to maximum power 😂 Broly built like that

    • @strikernate321
      @strikernate321 Před rokem

      He was defending himself? Wouldn’t that be called standing up to him?

    • @MrJonezy541
      @MrJonezy541 Před rokem +1

      ​@@strikernate321 Nah, Broly didn't land a single hit after Gogeta went blue, it wasn't even close.

    • @strikernate321
      @strikernate321 Před rokem

      @@MrJonezy541 yeah defending himself. When did you need to hit someone to be defending yourself from attacks?

    • @MrJonezy541
      @MrJonezy541 Před rokem +1

      @@strikernate321 He couldn't even defend himself, I don't think Broly successfully stopped any of Gogetas attacks lol.

  • @IFuckingLoveFrenchToast
    @IFuckingLoveFrenchToast Před rokem +1

    You know for a so called "Perfrct being" he sure does power up alot

  • @steakcakegrillbake5444
    @steakcakegrillbake5444 Před rokem +2

    Why is it that both of gohans main villains helped him unlock the 2nd stage of his mystic and ssj and they both cell?

  • @pain9s4life58
    @pain9s4life58 Před rokem +54

    Still say Black Frieza 😂 but I like your theory

    • @ShaDowOne90
      @ShaDowOne90 Před rokem +3

      Correct! Cell never stand a chance

  • @Mars-87
    @Mars-87 Před rokem +3

    Tbh I’m tired of seeing old villains personally I think the whole cell max thing is kinda dumb let him stay dead I feel the same way with the whole gold freeza and black freeza thing

    • @sawmyaj
      @sawmyaj Před rokem

      That's why I loved fan manga like the five strongest.

  • @freddyes2242
    @freddyes2242 Před rokem

    Iconic!!! I wish we could see the old cast of og villains all at once and interacting with each other and powered up vs the current cast or even turned good guys for a common enemy. Buu, freiza, cell etc

  • @ghaniKSW2
    @ghaniKSW2 Před rokem +2

    “the winner might be hard to call”
    **proceeds to explain how Frieza could one shot him**

  • @mhassankhalid3774
    @mhassankhalid3774 Před rokem +8

    Bro perfect cell max rivaling broly is such a low feat. Granola wished to be the strongest in the universe meaning he wished to be stronger than broly. UE slapped granola untill he got a power boost. Then gas came in and was pretty much wasting Goku and vegeta in their full power. He also wished to be the strongest in the universe. Now BLACK FRIEZA comes up one shots gas and then one shots Goku and vegeta simultaneously and didn't even bother to finish them off because he knew they would never surpass him.
    Yeah Black Frieza wins no diff.

  • @The_Opposition0
    @The_Opposition0 Před rokem +5

    Cell Max’s head weakness would be gone if he was perfected

    • @strikernate321
      @strikernate321 Před rokem

      No it wouldn’t lol. He was already kinda perfected before with the only part of him not being completed being the brainwashing. If he was perfect, he’d still have that weak spot as it was a fail safe in case he went out of control.

    • @AllMight6
      @AllMight6 Před rokem

      No he was only missing his mind his body would be that exact same

    • @The_Opposition0
      @The_Opposition0 Před rokem +1

      @@AllMight6 no it wouldn’t

    • @hvizdosk
      @hvizdosk Před rokem

      ​@@The_Opposition0 yeah it pretty much would be, they even said in the movie that the blueprints for a perfected body were to complex so they modeled it after the semiperfect form, the only thing missing was a way to control him

    • @The_Opposition0
      @The_Opposition0 Před rokem

      @@hvizdosk I went and rewatched the movie and yeah your right, I forgot they put the weakness just in case the couldn’t control him

  • @star4326
    @star4326 Před rokem +2

    Correction… cell max as it is would be more than enough to one shot broly going off of power scaling alone. If we use scaling, it easily beats tui goku and ue vegeta.

  • @Elkanimates
    @Elkanimates Před rokem +1

    Whenever toriyama said that Broly was stronger than cell max imperfect, he was referring to the broly who had training that same movie

    • @jocoolshow
      @jocoolshow Před rokem +1

      He never said Broly was stronger than Cell Max, he just said that Complete Cell Max is someone that not even Broly would be able to beat. That’s including his ability to exponentially increase his power in seconds/minutes
      It just means it’s *possible* for Broly to defeat incomplete Cell Max

  • @m_jdaname2919
    @m_jdaname2919 Před rokem +16

    One special beam cannon would probably one shot frieza cause bro the multipliers on that move is terrifying

    • @Marc-bi6tt
      @Marc-bi6tt Před rokem

      🙄

    • @Mechanix04
      @Mechanix04 Před rokem +2

      ​@@Marc-bi6tt da fuq you rolling your eyes for. You know he's right....

    • @Marc-bi6tt
      @Marc-bi6tt Před rokem +1

      @@Mechanix04 lmao that's a load of cap if you think a special beam cannon would one shot black frieza

    • @Cosmic_JC
      @Cosmic_JC Před rokem

      As if he can't dodge it Lmao.

    • @m_jdaname2919
      @m_jdaname2919 Před rokem +2

      @@Marc-bi6tt yes a orange piccolo one def can

  • @blackfrieza6969
    @blackfrieza6969 Před rokem +3

    Yes I Would Win.
    Cell Catch This DEATH BEAM.

  • @NanobanaKinako
    @NanobanaKinako Před rokem +1

    They would need help from unseen fighters who didn't participate the Tournament of Power

  • @TempestLich
    @TempestLich Před rokem +1

    There should be an arc where the demons of hell find cells soul and transfers it to the residue of Cell max, and somehow they manage to Resurrect Cell as perfect cell max and then boom, whole arc.

  • @spoof2062
    @spoof2062 Před rokem +6

    If we're going off of the broly movie then beating broly isn't all that impressive anymore seeing as how he was surpassed the very next arc😅

    • @strikernate321
      @strikernate321 Před rokem

      What do you mean? That’s literally every villain in Dragon Ball.

    • @spoof2062
      @spoof2062 Před rokem

      @Striker Nate yeah, what im saying is that we've seen multiple characters stronger than broly from the broly movie(with frieza being the strongest one as far as we know) so using him as a feat isnt that impressive anymore

    • @strikernate321
      @strikernate321 Před rokem

      @@spoof2062 that sounds really stupid. Like no offense that’s just really stupid. First off it’s still a feat to Broly for surviving that. Second a feat isn’t used for the entire verse it’s used for that specific character. Third Frieza isn’t even stronger than Broly in the movie (from what is shown to us in there). Until Black Frieza makes his appearance in the anime, he doesn’t exist in that continuity.

    • @spoof2062
      @spoof2062 Před rokem

      @Striker Nate okay now what are you talking about? Its a feat for broly to survive what? Gogeta? Thats cool and all but the next arc goku calls moro 73 the toughest guy he ever faced after he completely embarrassed him in pui anf hes only gotten stronger since then and was still one shotted by black frieza. Also you know superhero is canon to the manga continuity too right? Like they just released the first chapter of the prequel arc yesterday...

    • @spoof2062
      @spoof2062 Před rokem

      @@strikernate321 also i never said frieza was stronger than broly in the broly movie? I said he's the strongest character we've seen since the broly movie...

  • @ArcVega
    @ArcVega Před rokem +3

    Awful comparison of strength, broly did not stand up to gogeta blue it was stated by the writers that he was exponentially stronger than broly and didn’t finish the fight sooner bc his intentions weren’t to kill broly but test his limitations, it was just the rhetoric that was used to give a good show to the people watching the movie bc if gogeta blue one shotted him, people would say the movie is lame and was a lot of build up for the smallest climax thus why they dragged the fight for viewer enjoyment purposes.

    • @antoinepolnareff8970
      @antoinepolnareff8970 Před rokem

      In reality nope. The writters never stated that. On the novel that is full Script Toriyama Gogeta Blue needed to hurry up to not being defeated of how near was from his power level

  • @ThEBookOfSwantEGawD
    @ThEBookOfSwantEGawD Před 4 měsíci +1

    wouldn’t anyone be done if u launched a death beam at they head😂

  • @Black-mx3hc
    @Black-mx3hc Před rokem +1

    Another day of "ik nothing about the continuities of manga and anime"

  • @davetarsha
    @davetarsha Před rokem +13

    Mr. Perfect Cell Max!

  • @sidecharacter3193
    @sidecharacter3193 Před rokem +3

    That’s true but how would frieza find out about the weakness

    • @justinsden
      @justinsden  Před rokem

      Thats a good question

    • @jenellesavage6070
      @jenellesavage6070 Před rokem +2

      Honestly the way freiza's aim is when he does his death beam barrage I wouldn't be surprised if 1 of those beams pierces cell max in the head unintentionally lmao.

    • @Mr_Lucas
      @Mr_Lucas Před rokem +1

      He’d probably figure it when when hitting him on the head ☠️

  • @surplus2188
    @surplus2188 Před 7 měsíci +1

    His form wouldn’t change if you guys paid attention during the super hero movie his body was already 100% perfected it was just his mind that wasn’t ready 😳

  • @Doncroft1
    @Doncroft1 Před 28 dny

    These sound like fan fiction transformations.

  • @oliverdhinesh4195
    @oliverdhinesh4195 Před rokem +7

    How the hell will it be a difficult answer
    Frieza needn't even know about the weak point
    At his current power level, he will completely vapourise cell with a simple ki blast

  • @sosuke_aizan4429
    @sosuke_aizan4429 Před rokem +4

    “He oneshotted goku and vegeta” piccolo also oneshotted non fatigued androids that were stated to be on gokus level and this same guy was fodderized by cell max

    • @verscarii3238
      @verscarii3238 Před rokem

      You really think the androids were as strong as TUI goku at the end of the Granolah arc? It alway's seemed like they meant they were equal to a blue evolved/ Kaioken blue at most. It just seems kinda retarded that they'd be able to make androids in a lab that are stronger than the likes of limit-breaking Jiren (thus stronger than some gods of destruction) in a few years. Besides, the last time Piccolo even saw Goku and Vegeta was before Vegeta even achieved ultra-ego so it's not like he'd even know when he made that statement.

    • @Eric6761
      @Eric6761 Před rokem

      ​@@verscarii3238 Didn't Gero with a small lab created Androids stronger than Frieza with only data of Saiyan Saga Goku?

    • @sosuke_aizan4429
      @sosuke_aizan4429 Před rokem

      @@verscarii3238 this is statements from data books and other canon material that specifically just said goku and vegeta in general no capped forms no nothing which means androids are goku level
      your not the author lol I'm just going off of canon statements and keep in mind these statements were made After the frieza black form

  • @lucarain2936
    @lucarain2936 Před rokem +1

    Doesn't matter how much steroids and new alternate endings the animators keep giving them. Frieza and Cell both died a long time ago.

  • @alkaz145
    @alkaz145 Před 5 měsíci

    Fun fact that was perfected cell. That was Toryiamas initial design for cell so when making the SuperHero movie he finally had the chance to bring his design of cell to life. In the movie how they explain that they have to release him before his power is full. They’re only talking about power level & not form. Even if they released him at full power , his form was still going to be that

  • @Animeman17
    @Animeman17 Před rokem +16

    Perfect Cell max clears!

    • @justinsden
      @justinsden  Před rokem +4

      I think so too! Black Frieza is crazy but Cell Max might just be a little better to me

    • @Xcey616
      @Xcey616 Před rokem +9

      @@justinsden how? Blue Gogeta toyed with Broly. And Black Frieza literally one shotted both MUI Goku and UE Vegeta. Black frieza definitely stomps

    • @AlmedaRen
      @AlmedaRen Před rokem

      Delusional

    • @Swastik_Sama
      @Swastik_Sama Před rokem

      ​@@Xcey616*Tui

    • @potatomanz6486
      @potatomanz6486 Před rokem

      @@Xcey616 how stupid are you

  • @memertrongamer5157
    @memertrongamer5157 Před rokem +3

    The waffle house has found it’s new host

  • @adamcampbell6094
    @adamcampbell6094 Před rokem +1

    Dbz was the last to make any logical sense of power levels

  • @damianodidomenico4756
    @damianodidomenico4756 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Broly didn't stand up to Bluegeta, he couldn't defend himself: the minute he went blue, Broly couldn't lay a hand on him

  • @natejoe9924
    @natejoe9924 Před 2 měsíci

    Damn I definitely got to watch super I didn't know sell had a new form

  • @Cheeky290
    @Cheeky290 Před rokem +2

    Fun fact cell has the most potential in all of dragon ball

  • @nsampone3
    @nsampone3 Před rokem +1

    Superhero takes place after the Granolah Arc. The next manga arc literally being called “Superhero prelude.” So the movie is canon.
    Toriyama said Beast Gohan was the strongest z fighter after his new form was achieved. So that places him above UI and UE. Just like Black Frieza. Beast Gohan one shotted imperfect cell max. And it isn’t clear how he matches to Black Frieza.
    If we knew how Black Frieza would do against Beast Gohan, we’d have our answer about cell. He’s the measuring stick, at the moment.

  • @MKRfootball2010
    @MKRfootball2010 Před rokem +1

    Broly got put a a fucking t-shirt by Gogeta. Wtf you mean he stood up to him lol.

  • @corynthius8860
    @corynthius8860 Před rokem

    Ngl Freiza and Gohan have completely shattered what was left of rational power scaling

  • @sibsart2039
    @sibsart2039 Před rokem +1

    To be fair, the head is USUALLY a weak spot.

  • @ihatemylife4314
    @ihatemylife4314 Před rokem

    this is why when beerus first heard of frieza’s death by the hands of goku he was beyond surprised

  • @ziggiesaquaticexotics8270
    @ziggiesaquaticexotics8270 Před 3 měsíci

    Jit looks like a water Malone 😂

  • @neotono5536
    @neotono5536 Před rokem

    Just give old villains stupidly OP forms. Literally running on nostalgia now.

  • @A-n-J_
    @A-n-J_ Před rokem +1

    I feel that Perfect Cell Max would have regeneration powers because he would’ve been perfect at that point which I imagine being in a perfect for whilst also being max gives you a boost and some different abilities.

  • @darkbiddy511
    @darkbiddy511 Před rokem +2

    Cell would murder him
    Remember he also has Frieza's cells in his body

    • @ernestomunoz2129
      @ernestomunoz2129 Před měsícem

      He kinda does doesn't he? He even mention's it in Z thank's to Freeza and his father as he was flying in space

  • @kaydenfrost-xe2jd
    @kaydenfrost-xe2jd Před rokem

    Love your content bro

  • @Chiggbeeks
    @Chiggbeeks Před rokem

    imagine once cell max blew up in the smoke you could hear his music cut on and his perfect cell laugh. that would be fire 🔥

  • @thicculousmicculous
    @thicculousmicculous Před rokem +1

    I hope they do an arc where the bad guy wins for a bit. Would be a sick change up

    • @blank_2730
      @blank_2730 Před rokem

      I mean there were the androids and future saga

  • @Kat-Fish-Commentary
    @Kat-Fish-Commentary Před měsícem

    Akira toriyama was on some pro black shit this whole time just look at the color schemes

  • @roberthome6673
    @roberthome6673 Před rokem

    I love how in DBZ everyone is just arguing about how powerful the characters are.

  • @iseehowitis9382
    @iseehowitis9382 Před rokem

    At this rate the series will never end

  • @anderpander7948
    @anderpander7948 Před rokem +1

    You guys thought cell max was cool just wait until he transforms into Duracell

  • @lawyitkazuki5768
    @lawyitkazuki5768 Před rokem +1

    Cell Max certainly did have regen,thats the entire reason he was designed with a bomb that destroys all his cells at once,to prevent the regeneration

    • @superkamiguru4389
      @superkamiguru4389 Před rokem

      He clearly doesn't if he didn't get his arm back. He is mechanical

    • @lawyitkazuki5768
      @lawyitkazuki5768 Před rokem

      @@superkamiguru4389 he was in a bio tube.....dude was LITERALLY described as having cells ,why would the bomb have to deatroy every single cell if he didint have regen?

  • @The_Mad_Titan_007
    @The_Mad_Titan_007 Před rokem +1

    If perfected cell max is *just* stronger than broly, he's getting clapped by black frieza

  • @blackstream2572
    @blackstream2572 Před rokem +1

    Imagine deciding to improve on Cell to 'maximize' his potential, and simultaneously deciding that regeneration doesn't need to be part of that final design. I guess it was cause Hedo wanted his failsafe weak spot and Cell regenerating would interfere with that weakness. Smh, I guess he was just too weak to be a real mad doctor like Dr. Gero and die to his creations after making his full dream a reality.

  • @TheMegatron673
    @TheMegatron673 Před rokem +1

    not being able to regenerate is a major flaw in cell max.

  • @satchidaanandavigraha

    informative, Mission Impossible background, nice

  • @707BOO-YA
    @707BOO-YA Před rokem +1

    Man they basically took all the frost demon traits out of Frieza

  • @cautioncrazy
    @cautioncrazy Před rokem +1

    Ayo Christmas cell

  • @I_Farted_Farted
    @I_Farted_Farted Před rokem

    Hah, He'll go down just as fast as those two monkeys when facing me, Emperor Frieza.

  • @MapMan1527
    @MapMan1527 Před 2 měsíci

    If either one of them did a few jumping jacks before the fight, it's wraps for the opponent

  • @EthanWorks5775
    @EthanWorks5775 Před rokem

    Yo be fair bro my got DESTROYED by gogeta blue, with no context, but I can definitely appreciate the effort put into the videos you make

  • @Nerdy_Aomeba
    @Nerdy_Aomeba Před rokem +1

    I’d like to see the original Cell train and gain knowledge of current Super. Gain the power of everyone in super then absorb this giant cell brain dead cell powers and abilities into him.

  • @NimbusUuber
    @NimbusUuber Před rokem +2

    I doubt a smart cell Max will stand still and let Frieza headshot him

  • @jeskerjames3260
    @jeskerjames3260 Před rokem +1

    As much as I enjoy Cell MAX, Black Frieza was training for 10 years and just walks up to Goku and Vegeta and could have killed these boys then, but said “Nah I am just that f@cking confident.” Black Frieza takes this, even if Cell MAX was perfect.

  • @thepaper888
    @thepaper888 Před rokem +1

    Frieza is like unlimited power. Literally as a kid destroying planets. Obviously deathbeam is like launching a ki blast, nothing to him. Plus up until super claims he never trained, then did so for 3 months then got to gold frieza. The rate he can grow is unparalleled. Goku and Vegeta cannot compare. Frieza flat out says I will have Zeno bow to me. He wants to outrank them and will try to do so. If he Literally attempts to assassinate them, most likely would be successful.
    Obviously will go through destroyer gods, in every universe, champa, beerus, then all the angels if he could then go for grand minister.
    The thing is he could cheap shot snipe them and kill them, but then possibly the guards could kill frieza, maybe not but grand minister would be greatest threat. So if he and guards attack frieza then they could possibly kill him.
    Plus he would have to get a death beam up close or whatever he does he'd have to kill both at once, otherwise the other could kill frieza.
    So frieza in raw strength could surpass all destroyers, angels, physically kill Zeno, however the other magical deity abilities frieza couldn't contend with.
    Who knows what magical mystical unfathomable abilities besides instantly destroying or creating multiple universes. If a Zeno is assassinated then other/grand minister kills frieza.
    Could remaining Zeno bring back their counterpart?
    Why not? Or does that happen and there is only one now?
    Frieza's endgame is to take them out and not fear them or anyone stronger.
    Idk if he'd be offered to be made a destroyer and if so I feel he'd refuse thinking it's beneath him.
    Cell is just some robot programed to absorb biological and other robots to gain additional abilities, knowledge, strength. He is literally copy and paste. Nothing interesting. Just clone your moves and give them back to you stronger. Kamehameha × infinity looks cool, but boring.
    Frieza has his own movesets destrcto disc, death ball, etc. Just destruction. So much so he himself is not safe from his own moves, he is literally always playing with fire and running with scissors and he has learned the hard way to be safe and trains now to perfect his techniques. He is so racist towards sayins but has similar motivations. He is a warrior that only wants to get stronger.
    Cell is a xerox, a copy, non original boring.
    Majin Buu does it so much better, organically absorbs anyone and everyone with ease, but also their personality traits. Acting like gotenks flipping people off.
    Cell needs his dumb tail to absorb. Majin just throws any part of his body and eats them from anywhere.
    Cell makes more copies of himself cool whatever. You know who did it better? Metal Cooler, frieza's brother. Go figure.
    Especially with the regeneration factor Cell is literally weaker. Than Metal Cooler, and Majin Buu.

  • @tomhooper69
    @tomhooper69 Před rokem +1

    We never saw “Perfected Cell Max” which implies he could’ve evolved with no more weaknesses and most definitely would probably acquire his regenerative abilities by this point because that would imply he absorbed probably Piccolo Orange since he can Regenerate.

  • @im_that_guy
    @im_that_guy Před rokem

    Dragonball has just become a meme of itself at this point.

  • @Fruitsaur
    @Fruitsaur Před rokem +1

    Oh god imagine a still giant perfect cell max that spits up whole swarms of people sized just as strong cell jrs

  • @Baixees
    @Baixees Před rokem +2

    people dont realize cell max and beast gohan arnt as strong as they think