Zalama could also being living in the Dragon Realm, that is the place from which all of the wishing dragons come from and the Namekians creating Dragon Balls simply give all others a chance to summon the dragons from their home, since they themselves cannot exist outside of dragon realm for very long
@@aaronmejia959 Yeah, that could also possibly be the realm he himself built for the dragons to live in, since we dont know much about him, we cant realy tell how much power he has and what he is capable of
It makes sense for that to be the case the grand priest would have to be aware of the balls losing their power when its namekian dies and would’ve done something to keep him alive if he lived in 6 or 7 so him having his own realm makes sense
Exactly, tho this could be interpreted in many ways The otherworld, heaven n hell or the demon realm are technically all different realms but still part of a Universe
@@Anonymous.Wisperno he’s saying that HFIL and Heaven both exist in uninverse 7 but aren’t places you can just “go” to. Such as Beerus planet. So the namekian realm falls within these same rules
@@UltraInstinct-yn1ft Nah I MEAN what I said. Because without the Dragonballs in general there would be no wishing characters back to life/ making wishes.And the Dragonballs are mostly what every saga revolves around,Which is what DB is mainly about right?
@@Mannk3y (putting a disclaimer here because I could be wrong) For the most part, yes its revolve around the Dragon balls but also revolves around Goku, Vegeta, and their friends and family
Actually since the super dragon balls can grant “any wish” and can reverse zenos erasure it’s safe to say the super dragon balls are much more powerful then Zeno and maybe even the grand priest and as we now know the dragon balls can only be as powerful as the creator and taking that into account when Zeno erased 6/7 it’s safe to say zalama wasn’t erased.
The way you are phrasing it sounds like you are saying the grand priest is stronger than Zeno. I thought Zeno was basically invincible and can erase anything? Just curious if I understood you correctly and if so what do you base it on that the grand priest > Zeno?
@@woodyshooterZeno is weak he cannot fight and one of the weakest characters by power and fighting But he obviously is the creator of their universe so he has the power to delete or do anything
@@anthonymeier628How do we possible know he is weak bro? Like? We haven’t seen any if his showings. And dont give me that because he acts like a child crap, literally Arale is a child yet outscales and bullies her author 😭 So we cant assume he is weak when there is literally no statements saying he is or isnt.
Zeno is powerful in energy, able to erase whatever he wishes. Fight IQ wise, I dout it. For all we know Zeno is "immune" to damage because of his overall energy.
@@BampotTheScot__ Yes but what he's saying is that the Piccolo/Kami are Zalama or an incarnation of him. That's who the Nameless Namekian originally was before he came to earth and split into two. Maybe he had his powers reduced or limited in some way. It would line up with the fact that both the Dragon Balls and Super Dragon Balls' dragon being mamed Shenron
@@marche800 no...rewatch Dragonball, The nameless Namekian went to train as the Guardian of earth, however he could feel the evil inside him grow, and he knew that if he was to be the guardian of Earth he would have to get rid of the evil in him, and so he spilt himself in two Kami and King Piccolo. Now we know Piccolo isn't Zalama, because when Kami and Piccolo fused again, they weren't at the power of Zalama, in fact if they were he would've destroyed all threats the Androids, Cell, and Buu. Now before you say oh Piccolo power got cut when King Piccolo made him, I disagree with that for a simple fact King Piccolo could've made piccolo into a mutated Namekian like his brothers, but he didn't, he made Piccolo identical to him and gave him all his powers, and power level, the link to Kami and the Eternal youth wish that King Piccolo made, So Piccolo power wasn't cut in fact it was higher, because not only was he born with his own but also the boost from King Piccolo, which why Kami was worry that Goku wouldn't be able to beat piccolo. Also piccolo was a Super Namekian before fusing with Nail and Kami, as Super Namekians have the ability to transform into Giant, but the giant form is more of a minus then a plus Also the dragon balls are a big hint that Kami/piccolo isn't Zalama. If Piccolo dies, then Kami dies and the dragon balls turn to stone, and vice versa. If Piccolo and Kami fused the Dragonball turn to stone. And since Kami and Piccolo fused Earth's Dragonball turned to stone and if they were Zalama that meant the Super dragon balls were turned to stone, and I don't think there is another Namekian who was powerful enough to revive the super dragon balls. In the dragon clan the dragon/ dragon balls show just how powerful their creator are The most powerful are in order 1. Zalama- Super Shenron can only grant one wish, however there are no limitations to the wish, they can wish for anything, and the dragon balls are planet size 2. Guru- dragon balls as size as Krillin head. Porunga can grant 3 wishes, however there are limitations 3.Dende just reused Earth's Dragon Balls and dragon, however he gave Shenron the ability to grant three wishes, but still have limitations and no one can ask for immortality. 4. Kami small dragon balls that can fit in your hand, but Shenron can only grant one wish, and again limitations and the wish cannot exceed the power of his creator So Piccolo isn't Zalama, and Zalama isn't a Kami parent as I believe they were mentioned very briefly in the Namek arc. Also the Nameless Namekian doesn't have any memory of who or what he was, which was why king piccolo and piccolo and everyone else thought they were demons until it turns out that they are more like slugs Edit I have to make something clear, when I said if Kami and piccolo fused the Super dragon balls turn to stone, I still stand by that as Piccolo and King piccolo, though they maybe Identical they are not the same person, so even when Piccolo and Kami fused they didn't turn back into the Nameless Namekian, as piccolo wasn't King piccolo, but his offspring, even if Piccolo would also fused with King Piccolo as well they would be stronger but they would be someone else the Nameless Namekian can only come back if it Kami and King Piccolo
@@pedroschneider4872 and that why I told them to go rewatch it, I swear this is like Boruto 🤢 all over again as some people literally thought Naruto didn't have his own anime
Nobody said that Zalama is a Namekian and nothing said that Namekians are the only ones able to create them. What they said is that Dragon Balls are limited by the power of their creator, however the Super Dragon Balls can grant any wish without limits, meaning that Zalama has unlimited power, due to that Zalama its very likely to be Zeno's counterpart, the Supreme Deity that created the Universes of Dragon Ball.
That is true, there a possibility there are others who can create Dragon Balls however, so far we only know one class that belongs to one race that can create Dragonballs, and that are the dragon clan of the namekian race, the member of the dragon Clan have a high aptitude for magic, which is how the create Dragonballs, unleash potential, heal, and other things, however they are terrible at fighting For example: Kami, Guru, Dende, and Dende's dad The warrior clan have a high aptitude for fighting but have low magical abilities For example Piccolo ( except the only magic he can do is create clothes), King Piccolo, NAAAAAAAIIIIIIILLLLLL! ( sorry had to). However if Zalama was a Namekian he would be the exception as being both a warrior clan and a dragon clan. So there could be a possibility of another race that can create Dragonballs
The entire series from start to now has always been a Namekian that created the Dragonballs, no other race has the ability to do so and yet you think it’s someone else? 😂
It would have to be connected to or in the middle of Universe 6 and 7 for them to have the Super Dragon Balls. I am guessing he could be in void, between both universes.
Damn, Zalama got caught on 4K by facts alone. Now the question is: how strong would this character actually be? Would they be a guardian of the universe in this case?
Well no, first of all since hes the creator of super dragon balls which are just out of the realm of the multiverse, its possible he isnt even in the multiverse, secondly it is somewhat considered that he ranks equal to or above zeno, and lastly it is true namekians origin from universe 6 and 7, but i find it hard to believe hel be there rather than being in a completely different realm
since the Super Dragon Balls could undo Xeno's Multiple Universal Erasure (all at once too mind you) he's atleast on par with Xeno's power. but probably stronger.
@@Nohhbahdithat doesn’t mean that at all lol literalky these dragon balls are so dif be could be dead they could just be different but he is not on par with xeno just bc it can make that wish you gotta understand that just bc a wish orb can undo something it’s bc xeno let it bc at any time he can make those dragon balls an eveything else cease to exist an nothing could have stopped him
@@user-gk6sz9oh6w right like toriyama is famous for changing things just bc the dragon is alive means nothing it can mean whateve the writer wants it ok
Piccolo sucks he used to be badass I'm talking about decades ago now even with his orange transformation he didn't really do anything worth talking about 😅 he would get one punched 😂
My own head canon is that Zalama is Toriyama himself, as the creator of all things in DB universe. If the next time we see the super dragon balls they are inactive I'm going to cry.
What if piccolo is secretly zalama. I know it sounds crazy but listen. Katas his father was briefly mentioned if it was a similar procedure to how piccolo sr birthed jr,He retained his memories and once he split from Kami he lost them or lost them prior after seeing all the evil in the earth.
My theory is that Zalama has locked his powers and turned into piccolo to have the pleasure of being weak again, if you see zalama picture he it's piccolo but orange, and when piccolo got super sayaian powers in DBS Cell movie, he became orange again like zalama, soo if piccolo unlock ultra instinct or ultra ego and turn full orange he will become zalama again, but only the dragon balls can restore piccolo to be zalama again or he needs to hit his head hard with a rock to wake up.
@@snakeattacker2857 I know that but they said they came into universe 7 from a different realm if it was a realm within universe 7 I don't think they would make it a point to say they came into universe 7 from another realm, at least that's what I remember them saying from the manga lol
@@snakeattacker2857 I do think he is in universe 6 or 7 since the super dragon balls are in those universes I was just kind of saying he may not be from any of those universes originally
They came from the Dragon realm. It is in-between Universes 6 and 7. Only Zalama and his people can move between there, if the Nameks can even remember how to go back. They probably don't remember how to go back.
I don't think Zalama is in any of the Universes. The Zenos are in a realm of their own, set apart from the Universes. I think Zalama has his own realm. He may be the true god over the Dragon Ball reality. Perhaps the Zenos and the angels can't even make contact with him. There must be some intrinsic connection between Zalama and the Nemekians of Universes 6 & 7, given that they both share the two sets of Super Dragon Balls and also have their own sets of Namekians with their own sets of Dragon Balls. However, what that connection may be is unknown. Most likely, Zalama is the first Namekian, and all other Namekians are born from him. If that be the case, then the fact that the Namekians are considered magical in nature and mysterious (referring to the first two seasons of DBZ), this may be because they are literally descendents of the in-canon god over everything; also consider that when a Namekian is guardian of their planet (which also implies they have Dragon Balls of their own), they are referred to as a god. Yes, Kais exist above them, but what if above all Kais, above all angels, and above the Almighty Zeno is one whose power eclipses even that of Zeno. The only way one could test this theory is by using the Super Dragon Balls to delete Zeno from reality altogether: if that wish is beyond the power of Super Shenron then we know Zalama is not stronger than Zeno, and if it does work than he is. Similarly, one could use the Super Dragon Balls to attempt to delete all of the angels (including the High Priest angel) and/or Zeno: if it works then he's greater than the angels and/or Zeno, and if not then he's not. If not, then Zalama is at or above the level of a god of destruction in terms of power and/or divine prestige, but not at the level of the angels and/or Zeno. Personally, until we find out any further information, I think Zalama is written to be what Kami was in the original Dragon Ball (but over the multiverse and/or the sum total of all possible multiverses, rather than merely just over Earth). If this be the case, then no timeline-hopping and no amount of power-gain/wishing will make Frieza or Goku & co. able to escape the watchful eye and inconceivable power of the *true* god of Dragon Ball. Maybe Piccolo can take his role in the future for some unknown plot purpose and Vegeta can become the god of destruction of the multiverse and Goku can become the High Priest or something, I dunno.
That's right. He is legit af. He is stronger than Zeno. He is probably stronger than Whis's Dad the Grand Minister also. The Grand Minister could fuse with Zeno and that fusion would probably be formidable to Zalama but I'm just speculating.
@@capo900 Anybody powerful enough to make the super dragon balls is powerful enough to become a Purshottama three-personed triad god, which is what zeno is. Remeber how Super Shenron restored like 9 universes at once in a blink of an eye. That's insane.
@@AstralApple that doesn’t prove he’s stronger than zeno he could be strong but not that much like supreme kai level maybe god of destruction but the creators of dragon balls arent fighters for 1 and they arent as strong as the dragon for example they can use shenron to bring back a planet dende cant destroy a planet in fact he was weak asf when he created the new shenron and added in 2 wishes it would make sense the super dragon ball creator wouldnt be all that powerful compared to real fighters
Shenron: "Hello Master, what is your wish." Regular Namakian: "I wish we were merged" Shenron: "ooooOOOH FUUUUUUUU- * makes super Shenron * Super Shenron: "Hello master, what is your wish." Zalama: "I wish no one could find me, ever" Goku: "FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
Just because the dragon balls didn't disappear when universe 6 was erased doesn't automatically mean he is in universe 7.... He could literally be outside of the universes for all we know like Zeno's realm
He is most likely near both universes, since they are twins. Someone stated in the dragon dimension, which could be located in between universe 6 and 7. I am thinking something like that, but within the void between 6 and 7. Then the super dragon balls would show up only in 6 and 7.
@@dazeen9591 I am talking about the universes 6 and 7 are twins, they are stated to be twin universes or brother and sister universe. I forgot what it was stated for those two universes to be. Sorry for the confusion. For the balls to disappear, the creator of the Super Dragon Balls to die. Now we can conclude that the guy is somewhere between the universes in a dimesion, that ties the two universes together in a way.
So that means that, if Universe 7 got defeated and erased in the Tournament of Power, nobody would get their wishes anyway? (Since Zalama is apparently in there...)
If he was living in universe 7 during the TOP and universe 7 got erased instead of the 11th would that mean the super dragonballs would disappear and universe 11 wouldn't get a wish?
We don't have any proof if Zalama is Namekian. The Namekians themselves said the Super Dragon Balls are the original ones and they copied them to create their owns.
i think you are overthinking something that Toriyama would probably never even consider, taking into consideration that he even used to forget characters
Namekians are descendants of Zalama. But I think Zalama exists in a pocket dimension of his own making. He’s just waiting for his moment to be able to try to take hold of the universes one day. He’s essentially a celestial “trickster”
In the Granolah arc it was stated Namekians come from a different dimension. Thats where Zalama stays to protect the Super Dragonballs by being somewhere no one has yet to reach
Nah, if he is tied to any being it isnt in a universe weve seen. Otherwise how would they grant a wish once the universe was deleted in the TOP? its not like everyone knew U7 would win
The rules that applies for the angles applies for zalama. He is one of the top 5 that whis mentioned bc the magnitude of the the wish is based on the strength of the creator. He was an exception bc it wouldn’t make since to wipe him out if universe 7 got eliminated bc his value to the grand priest… feel free to comment on this theory and let me know if it makes sense
Zalama exists outside of the universes in a realm similar to the one Zeno resides in, this was confirmed by toriyama before he passed. It is also a fact that namekians, zalama's race, are not originally from any known universe. So zalama is in the original home of the namekians, a temporal realm outside of the universe bubbles
He would have to be outside of universe 7 because of granola arc. Maybe wherever Frieza was to finally each his goal and become a black man. "Only a green man can teach a white man to be black" - king kai
My theory is, that Zeno's father cut him up in the seven pieces and put them inside each of the Dragon Balls, because he's so powerful you still alive inside each Dragon Ball
So if Universe 7 got wiped, according to your brilliant detective work, the main prize fke the tournament of power would have been non-existent. Stellar job!
I am zalama .a men. The only son of the omni king , the one that came here to win the great game and safe u all and I did. As zalama I found christ consiunsess true the invisible christ, the true creator of everything even beyond my father the omni king. I am here and I am still a life , this is my creation not my father's. Amen.😊
My main theory is that he split himself up into a bunch of smaller pieces and created the namekian race and split them between 6 and 7 That’s why they can make dragon balls And can fuse together to become stronger
EXCELLENT POINTS, however being captured does not mean he's free of Omni King's power. No matter where you are, if your universe gets deleted, you go with it. Chances are he exists OUTSIDE the 12 just like Omni King.
That seems like a HUUGE oversight by Zeno and the angels. Imagine they zapped away Zalama from one of the universes being erased and they couldn't give the winner their wish because of it?
Nice theory there can be one variation though 1) he created dragonballs and then split himself into two or more bodies. One body lives in universe 6 and another in universe 7 so till the time at least one body lives Dragonballs stay active. (Unlike Kami who created Dragonball after splitting himself) Now this number 2 is just an assumption 2) nail (now fused with piccolo jr.) could be one of the body that's probably why nail insisted so much to fuse with piccolo jr. You see mail was really strong compared to average namekian (Guru said he was a fighter class and not a dragon class - but that might be just a lie to hide his true abilities.) And since every namekian in universe 6 fused into 2 bodies it could be either one of those (maybe universe 6 zalma half further went on to divide himself and strategically choose to be in multiple bodies. Or maybe all namekians are basically splits from zalma only)
Alternatively, as the creator of the first and most powerful set of dragonballs ever created, it's highly possible he and they are not subject to that particular rule
People think this guy's strong because he created the Super Dragon balls, but we know that the Dragon Ball type manekians aren't strong. They typically just have mystical abilities so he's just probably the one that's achieved the highest level of riskicle abilities to create them and is probably immortal given that the Dragon balls kind of need him to be alive to function
This would create a reason Zeno did what Zeno did to figure this out awesome theory. For it's up to the writers but diffently would make a great story line.
Nerds speculating on what they think is going on in a fictional show , arguing and debating about it, when the writers haven’t even created the lore yet is so….damn…..fun lol. Y’all thought I was bout to hate 😂
There is a chance yes, but there is also a chance that hes not from any of the universes and is floating in the void or in his own realm like Zeno
I was going to say he could live in-between both universe 6 and 7
Zalama could also being living in the Dragon Realm, that is the place from which all of the wishing dragons come from and the Namekians creating Dragon Balls simply give all others a chance to summon the dragons from their home, since they themselves cannot exist outside of dragon realm for very long
@@aaronmejia959 Yeah, that could also possibly be the realm he himself built for the dragons to live in, since we dont know much about him, we cant realy tell how much power he has and what he is capable of
It makes sense for that to be the case the grand priest would have to be aware of the balls losing their power when its namekian dies and would’ve done something to keep him alive if he lived in 6 or 7 so him having his own realm makes sense
@@trevorarmeni1858 Exactly, if he was in Univerve 7 then its most likely the Grand Priest would've taken some action to protect Universe 7 from Zeno
My guess would be that Zalama stays in the "Dragon Realm" where the Eternal Dragons live when not granting wishes.
Yes that is right
But where did he come from
Like has he ever appeared to dbs?
@@AlbanianG777no
The Ryushin Realm??😮
Porunga: Hey Shenron, who summoned you this time
Shenron: Bulma.
Porunga: Again?
With Toriyama gone we may never truly know.
Best Said only he knows an they together blessings 🙏🏿🙏🏿😢
Now that they’ve had this much real time to work together, I trust Toyotaro
Yes however at some point they talked about it together, with shueisha and others. So maybe he actualy left something regarding this subject.👍
I'm still grateful he gave us Goku's memory of his parents back.
Piccolo merge with him
It is stated in dbs manga that namekians come from an different realm and not from universe 6 and 7. I think around chapter 63 or something.
Do they expand further?
Yea zalama is still in the namekians realm
Exactly, tho this could be interpreted in many ways
The otherworld, heaven n hell or the demon realm are technically all different realms but still part of a Universe
@@han3427He can make his own universe?
@@Anonymous.Wisperno he’s saying that HFIL and Heaven both exist in uninverse 7 but aren’t places you can just “go” to. Such as Beerus planet. So the namekian realm falls within these same rules
"We may even know where is he"
Lol
Yeah I caught that too
Also
"What do you guys think is?"
Lol I came here looking for this comment 😂😂
He's probably using AI to generate the speech
@@cosmicabyss7358 lol, "probably".
Since we got more universes, Universe 7 became a neighborhood
So technically Namekians are what brings the DB universe to life?! Imagine the series WITHOUT them 🤯
BACK to life, U meen 😂😂😂
@@UltraInstinct-yn1ft Nah I MEAN what I said. Because without the Dragonballs in general there would be no wishing characters back to life/ making wishes.And the Dragonballs are mostly what every saga revolves around,Which is what DB is mainly about right?
@@Mannk3y (putting a disclaimer here because I could be wrong) For the most part, yes its revolve around the Dragon balls but also revolves around Goku, Vegeta, and their friends and family
And Vegeta was out there committing genocide on them.😆
@@Mannk3yI thought DB was about space monkeys.🤷🏽♂️
Actually since the super dragon balls can grant “any wish” and can reverse zenos erasure it’s safe to say the super dragon balls are much more powerful then Zeno and maybe even the grand priest and as we now know the dragon balls can only be as powerful as the creator and taking that into account when Zeno erased 6/7 it’s safe to say zalama wasn’t erased.
The way you are phrasing it sounds like you are saying the grand priest is stronger than Zeno. I thought Zeno was basically invincible and can erase anything? Just curious if I understood you correctly and if so what do you base it on that the grand priest > Zeno?
@@woodyshooterZeno is weak he cannot fight and one of the weakest characters by power and fighting
But he obviously is the creator of their universe so he has the power to delete or do anything
@@anthonymeier628How do we possible know he is weak bro? Like? We haven’t seen any if his showings. And dont give me that because he acts like a child crap, literally Arale is a child yet outscales and bullies her author 😭 So we cant assume he is weak when there is literally no statements saying he is or isnt.
Zeno is powerful in energy, able to erase whatever he wishes.
Fight IQ wise, I dout it.
For all we know Zeno is "immune" to damage because of his overall energy.
@@traviseller8160 yeah, I'm seein Pan could probly scrape Xeno lol
What if the nameless namekian is zalama 👀 would add a lot more depth to orange piccolo
No, the nameless namekian split into Kami and king piccolo
@@BampotTheScot__ Yes but what he's saying is that the Piccolo/Kami are Zalama or an incarnation of him. That's who the Nameless Namekian originally was before he came to earth and split into two. Maybe he had his powers reduced or limited in some way. It would line up with the fact that both the Dragon Balls and Super Dragon Balls' dragon being mamed Shenron
@@marche800 no...rewatch Dragonball, The nameless Namekian went to train as the Guardian of earth, however he could feel the evil inside him grow, and he knew that if he was to be the guardian of Earth he would have to get rid of the evil in him, and so he spilt himself in two Kami and King Piccolo.
Now we know Piccolo isn't Zalama, because when Kami and Piccolo fused again, they weren't at the power of Zalama, in fact if they were he would've destroyed all threats the Androids, Cell, and Buu.
Now before you say oh Piccolo power got cut when King Piccolo made him, I disagree with that for a simple fact
King Piccolo could've made piccolo into a mutated Namekian like his brothers, but he didn't, he made Piccolo identical to him and gave him all his powers, and power level, the link to Kami and the Eternal youth wish that King Piccolo made, So Piccolo power wasn't cut in fact it was higher, because not only was he born with his own but also the boost from King Piccolo, which why Kami was worry that Goku wouldn't be able to beat piccolo.
Also piccolo was a Super Namekian before fusing with Nail and Kami, as Super Namekians have the ability to transform into Giant, but the giant form is more of a minus then a plus
Also the dragon balls are a big hint that Kami/piccolo isn't Zalama.
If Piccolo dies, then Kami dies and the dragon balls turn to stone, and vice versa.
If Piccolo and Kami fused the Dragonball turn to stone.
And since Kami and Piccolo fused Earth's Dragonball turned to stone and if they were Zalama that meant the Super dragon balls were turned to stone, and I don't think there is another Namekian who was powerful enough to revive the super dragon balls. In the dragon clan the dragon/ dragon balls show just how powerful their creator are
The most powerful are in order
1. Zalama- Super Shenron can only grant one wish, however there are no limitations to the wish, they can wish for anything, and the dragon balls are planet size
2. Guru- dragon balls as size as Krillin head.
Porunga can grant 3 wishes, however there are limitations
3.Dende just reused Earth's Dragon Balls and dragon, however he gave Shenron the ability to grant three wishes, but still have limitations and no one can ask for immortality.
4. Kami small dragon balls that can fit in your hand, but Shenron can only grant one wish, and again limitations and the wish cannot exceed the power of his creator
So Piccolo isn't Zalama, and Zalama isn't a Kami parent as I believe they were mentioned very briefly in the Namek arc.
Also the Nameless Namekian doesn't have any memory of who or what he was, which was why king piccolo and piccolo and everyone else thought they were demons until it turns out that they are more like slugs
Edit
I have to make something clear, when I said if Kami and piccolo fused the Super dragon balls turn to stone, I still stand by that as Piccolo and King piccolo, though they maybe Identical they are not the same person, so even when Piccolo and Kami fused they didn't turn back into the Nameless Namekian, as piccolo wasn't King piccolo, but his offspring, even if Piccolo would also fused with King Piccolo as well they would be stronger but they would be someone else the Nameless Namekian can only come back if it Kami and King Piccolo
@@skylaquinn219 bold of you to assume an average Dragon Ball fan actually watched the show
@@pedroschneider4872 and that why I told them to go rewatch it, I swear this is like Boruto 🤢 all over again as some people literally thought Naruto didn't have his own anime
What if Zalama is secretly Piccolo?????😂😂😂😂😂
Ooooo 😳🔥
He is not that powerful
@@siyabulelayosi4760Could be a mental block, like he forgot who he really is and that power up he just got is a step in that direction
Piccolo wouldn't be that weak if that was the case,
IQ 1
My theory zalama found a way to fuse himself with supershenron this never able to perish never to be found
Nobody said that Zalama is a Namekian and nothing said that Namekians are the only ones able to create them.
What they said is that Dragon Balls are limited by the power of their creator, however the Super Dragon Balls can grant any wish without limits, meaning that Zalama has unlimited power, due to that Zalama its very likely to be Zeno's counterpart, the Supreme Deity that created the Universes of Dragon Ball.
That is true, there a possibility there are others who can create Dragon Balls however, so far we only know one class that belongs to one race that can create Dragonballs, and that are the dragon clan of the namekian race, the member of the dragon Clan have a high aptitude for magic, which is how the create Dragonballs, unleash potential, heal, and other things, however they are terrible at fighting
For example:
Kami, Guru, Dende, and Dende's dad
The warrior clan have a high aptitude for fighting but have low magical abilities
For example
Piccolo ( except the only magic he can do is create clothes), King Piccolo, NAAAAAAAIIIIIIILLLLLL! ( sorry had to).
However if Zalama was a Namekian he would be the exception as being both a warrior clan and a dragon clan.
So there could be a possibility of another race that can create Dragonballs
@@skylaquinn219 he's a dragon there we go
The entire series from start to now has always been a Namekian that created the Dragonballs, no other race has the ability to do so and yet you think it’s someone else? 😂
@@twistedlogic8721For the entire series only the Dragons could resurrect people until we saw that Angels could do it too in the Tournament of Power.
@@twistedlogic8721this is a series known for its retcons
I think that zalama is in the dragon realm or in his own realm
It would have to be connected to or in the middle of Universe 6 and 7 for them to have the Super Dragon Balls. I am guessing he could be in void, between both universes.
This would mean they knew Universe 7 was going to win the T.O.P.
Did God stop his creating just because he knew where it would lead?
Or it would mean he's in universe 1, 5, 8 or 12 since they were exempt from the TOP
Damn, Zalama got caught on 4K by facts alone. Now the question is: how strong would this character actually be? Would they be a guardian of the universe in this case?
Well no, first of all since hes the creator of super dragon balls which are just out of the realm of the multiverse, its possible he isnt even in the multiverse, secondly it is somewhat considered that he ranks equal to or above zeno, and lastly it is true namekians origin from universe 6 and 7, but i find it hard to believe hel be there rather than being in a completely different realm
Piccolo knows where he is
Facts
I think you mean "where is he"
No he doesn’t know about the namekian realm zalama still in that realm
Zalama is not tied to a universe so even if uni 6 was deleted it makes no difference to him
Orange piccolo adopted his power. Tribute from shenron acknowledging his growth etc
Also the dragon is as strong as its maker....
since the Super Dragon Balls could undo Xeno's Multiple Universal Erasure (all at once too mind you) he's atleast on par with Xeno's power. but probably stronger.
@@Nohhbahdithat doesn’t mean that at all lol literalky these dragon balls are so dif be could be dead they could just be different but he is not on par with xeno just bc it can make that wish you gotta understand that just bc a wish orb can undo something it’s bc xeno let it bc at any time he can make those dragon balls an eveything else cease to exist an nothing could have stopped him
Not surr this rule is entirely accurate or even followed considering kami can't bring people back from the dead but the Dragon could
@@user-gk6sz9oh6w right like toriyama is famous for changing things just bc the dragon is alive means nothing it can mean whateve the writer wants it ok
@@Nohhbahdi no it doesn’t Kami couldn’t bring people back but shenron could an shenron is stronger than Kami so like no
new mission: procure the dragon balls on earth and ask shenron where the owner of the super dragon balls are
Plz let the fight be just between Piccolo and Zalama
Piccolo would be demolished
@@joeytheskullgrunt7160 az i red hiz comment, I'm like, Y did he say that? 😭😭 he wanna c Piccolo ded 💀
Piccolo Zalama
@@UltraInstinct-yn1ft don't want to see Piccolo dead, just want to see him grow stronger and the Z-Fighters.
Piccolo sucks he used to be badass I'm talking about decades ago now even with his orange transformation he didn't really do anything worth talking about 😅 he would get one punched 😂
My own head canon is that Zalama is Toriyama himself, as the creator of all things in DB universe.
If the next time we see the super dragon balls they are inactive I'm going to cry.
Bro the problem is that toriyama did pass away witch basically means the super dragon balls are gone now R I P my hero
Nah zalama is in the namekian realms still
What if piccolo is secretly zalama. I know it sounds crazy but listen. Katas his father was briefly mentioned if it was a similar procedure to how piccolo sr birthed jr,He retained his memories and once he split from Kami he lost them or lost them prior after seeing all the evil in the earth.
My theory is that Zalama has locked his powers and turned into piccolo to have the pleasure of being weak again, if you see zalama picture he it's piccolo but orange, and when piccolo got super sayaian powers in DBS Cell movie, he became orange again like zalama, soo if piccolo unlock ultra instinct or ultra ego and turn full orange he will become zalama again, but only the dragon balls can restore piccolo to be zalama again or he needs to hit his head hard with a rock to wake up.
Wat about future trunks timeline??
Stop smoking that stuff kid
Happy zalama.
Sad zalama.
Mentally disturbed zalama.
Super zalama.
Drama zalama.
Big, fat, mama zalama.
Bomb a llama in Gama for Super Zalama's mama's trauma
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@@xanderx3788 in a sauna
It's so weird when I translate this it says zalama means cruelty, injustice, and torture. Which is now making me speculate some insane theories.
He is too powerful to be erased
the namekians came from a different realm into universe 7, so they may not even be from universe 6 either
Realm yes universe no there's multiple realms in dragon ball ex. Earth, hell, heaven, GoD, etc.
@@snakeattacker2857 I know that but they said they came into universe 7 from a different realm if it was a realm within universe 7 I don't think they would make it a point to say they came into universe 7 from another realm, at least that's what I remember them saying from the manga lol
@@snakeattacker2857 I do think he is in universe 6 or 7 since the super dragon balls are in those universes I was just kind of saying he may not be from any of those universes originally
They came from the Dragon realm. It is in-between Universes 6 and 7. Only Zalama and his people can move between there, if the Nameks can even remember how to go back. They probably don't remember how to go back.
I always head-cannoned that Zeno gave him his own hidden space
I don't think Zalama is in any of the Universes. The Zenos are in a realm of their own, set apart from the Universes. I think Zalama has his own realm. He may be the true god over the Dragon Ball reality. Perhaps the Zenos and the angels can't even make contact with him. There must be some intrinsic connection between Zalama and the Nemekians of Universes 6 & 7, given that they both share the two sets of Super Dragon Balls and also have their own sets of Namekians with their own sets of Dragon Balls. However, what that connection may be is unknown. Most likely, Zalama is the first Namekian, and all other Namekians are born from him. If that be the case, then the fact that the Namekians are considered magical in nature and mysterious (referring to the first two seasons of DBZ), this may be because they are literally descendents of the in-canon god over everything; also consider that when a Namekian is guardian of their planet (which also implies they have Dragon Balls of their own), they are referred to as a god. Yes, Kais exist above them, but what if above all Kais, above all angels, and above the Almighty Zeno is one whose power eclipses even that of Zeno. The only way one could test this theory is by using the Super Dragon Balls to delete Zeno from reality altogether: if that wish is beyond the power of Super Shenron then we know Zalama is not stronger than Zeno, and if it does work than he is. Similarly, one could use the Super Dragon Balls to attempt to delete all of the angels (including the High Priest angel) and/or Zeno: if it works then he's greater than the angels and/or Zeno, and if not then he's not. If not, then Zalama is at or above the level of a god of destruction in terms of power and/or divine prestige, but not at the level of the angels and/or Zeno.
Personally, until we find out any further information, I think Zalama is written to be what Kami was in the original Dragon Ball (but over the multiverse and/or the sum total of all possible multiverses, rather than merely just over Earth). If this be the case, then no timeline-hopping and no amount of power-gain/wishing will make Frieza or Goku & co. able to escape the watchful eye and inconceivable power of the *true* god of Dragon Ball. Maybe Piccolo can take his role in the future for some unknown plot purpose and Vegeta can become the god of destruction of the multiverse and Goku can become the High Priest or something, I dunno.
He's literally God of dbs, he created Dragon Ball which is the title pf the show 🤯💫
That's right. He is legit af. He is stronger than Zeno. He is probably stronger than Whis's Dad the Grand Minister also. The Grand Minister could fuse with Zeno and that fusion would probably be formidable to Zalama but I'm just speculating.
The idea of the fictitious Namekians is based on the Hindu belief in the Naga reptile people.
@@AstralApple🧢 he not stronger than zeno
@@capo900 Anybody powerful enough to make the super dragon balls is powerful enough to become a Purshottama three-personed triad god, which is what zeno is. Remeber how Super Shenron restored like 9 universes at once in a blink of an eye. That's insane.
@@AstralApple that doesn’t prove he’s stronger than zeno he could be strong but not that much like supreme kai level maybe god of destruction but the creators of dragon balls arent fighters for 1 and they arent as strong as the dragon for example they can use shenron to bring back a planet dende cant destroy a planet in fact he was weak asf when he created the new shenron and added in 2 wishes it would make sense the super dragon ball creator wouldnt be all that powerful compared to real fighters
Yeah maybe
I think it may just be another case of a piece of lore that's just been forgotten.
For everybody that saying it's piccolo y'all are wrong af 🤣 yall forget about future trunks timeline 😂😂
Shenron: "Hello Master, what is your wish."
Regular Namakian: "I wish we were merged"
Shenron: "ooooOOOH FUUUUUUUU-
* makes super Shenron *
Super Shenron: "Hello master, what is your wish."
Zalama: "I wish no one could find me, ever"
Goku: "FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
Just because the dragon balls didn't disappear when universe 6 was erased doesn't automatically mean he is in universe 7.... He could literally be outside of the universes for all we know like Zeno's realm
He is most likely near both universes, since they are twins. Someone stated in the dragon dimension, which could be located in between universe 6 and 7. I am thinking something like that, but within the void between 6 and 7. Then the super dragon balls would show up only in 6 and 7.
@@cainabel6356 if they are twins it's possible only one of them needs to remain alive to prevent the balls from disappearing
@@dazeen9591 I am talking about the universes 6 and 7 are twins, they are stated to be twin universes or brother and sister universe. I forgot what it was stated for those two universes to be. Sorry for the confusion.
For the balls to disappear, the creator of the Super Dragon Balls to die. Now we can conclude that the guy is somewhere between the universes in a dimesion, that ties the two universes together in a way.
@@cainabel6356 ok I understand now
Mr Po Po no once knows where he’s from or how long he really existed. He always been strong stronger than everyone.
So that means that, if Universe 7 got defeated and erased in the Tournament of Power, nobody would get their wishes anyway? (Since Zalama is apparently in there...)
Same thing happened on Planet Namek, when Great Guru passed away.
If he was living in universe 7 during the TOP and universe 7 got erased instead of the 11th would that mean the super dragonballs would disappear and universe 11 wouldn't get a wish?
My theory is that hes just like Yamoshi, although dead hes spirit is still wandering around waiting for the next summon of super shenron
We don't have any proof if Zalama is Namekian. The Namekians themselves said the Super Dragon Balls are the original ones and they copied them to create their owns.
Someone who pays attention
My guess is he lives in the same large house as Zeno.
i think you are overthinking something that Toriyama would probably never even consider, taking into consideration that he even used to forget characters
I smell a spin off series I got u Akira ❤ am on it. RIP IN PEACE KING. NOW YOUR THE GOD OF ANIME!
Considering how Zalama’s power is infinite, I think he lives in both because he might not be able to get erased from Zeno’s abilities.
Namekians are descendants of Zalama. But I think Zalama exists in a pocket dimension of his own making. He’s just waiting for his moment to be able to try to take hold of the universes one day. He’s essentially a celestial “trickster”
Finally someone who actually managed to wish to live forever
Missed the era when DB is all about *DB* and not about who the strongest is.
every one is asking " where zalama ?" but no one is asking "how is zalama ?"😢
In the Granolah arc it was stated Namekians come from a different dimension. Thats where Zalama stays to protect the Super Dragonballs by being somewhere no one has yet to reach
My theory, Zalama used the dragonballs and wished himself to be mortal and erase his memories. He then became what we know as the "nameless Namekien"
Great ideology, it matches up ideally with what you have described. Thank you for posting this.
Tbh I like to believe he's in between the universes like outside of both 7 and 6 and that's the reason they're in both
He’s actually living his dream as a farmer while hiding his power
I think we as fans are putting more into the storyline than the actual creators
Before toriyama left he basically restored a lot of potential content and died.
Nah, if he is tied to any being it isnt in a universe weve seen. Otherwise how would they grant a wish once the universe was deleted in the TOP? its not like everyone knew U7 would win
A thinking person in the comments. You love to see it
Or he could be in one of the Universes that was good enough to avoid the tournament.
Zalama is where zeno is. He is what they call a god. He has his own place away from all troubles. Only time he comes around is when zeno calls on him
If all the Namekiand fused together, it'd be Zalama
I hope they make Zalama do something cuz imagine how powerful he would have to be
ZALAMA IS IN UNIVERSE 7 💯 I CANT WAIT TO SEE IT ON THE ANIME SERIES. THEM SUPER DRAGONBALLS WERE STILL ACTIVE. ITS SO MUCH TO TELL FOR SHO
The rules that applies for the angles applies for zalama. He is one of the top 5 that whis mentioned bc the magnitude of the the wish is based on the strength of the creator. He was an exception bc it wouldn’t make since to wipe him out if universe 7 got eliminated bc his value to the grand priest… feel free to comment on this theory and let me know if it makes sense
Im guessing the creators never even thought about this.
He’s not from either universe he exists outside of all universes but he definitely is alive
"We may even know were is he"
"What do you guys think is?"
Zalama exists outside of the universes in a realm similar to the one Zeno resides in, this was confirmed by toriyama before he passed. It is also a fact that namekians, zalama's race, are not originally from any known universe. So zalama is in the original home of the namekians, a temporal realm outside of the universe bubbles
He would have to be outside of universe 7 because of granola arc.
Maybe wherever Frieza was to finally each his goal and become a black man. "Only a green man can teach a white man to be black" - king kai
That's actually a damn good theory.
He is Kami’s predecessor. They show him during the garlic jr saga
Yeah he's in his own realm that was his wish after making the balls
My theory is, that Zeno's father cut him up in the seven pieces and put them inside each of the Dragon Balls, because he's so powerful you still alive inside each Dragon Ball
Piccolo will take the mantle eventually. That’d be one hell of an arc.
He could also be in one of the universes that didnt compete as a way to insure his life
So if Universe 7 got wiped, according to your brilliant detective work, the main prize fke the tournament of power would have been non-existent. Stellar job!
bold of you to assume dragon ball logic is consistent
Exactly. It is just retconned into oblivion. One reason why I hated DBS. Too many retcons in it. I prefer GT.
That’s a good hypothesis 🧐🧐🧐
I am zalama .a men. The only son of the omni king , the one that came here to win the great game and safe u all and I did.
As zalama I found christ consiunsess true the invisible christ, the true creator of everything even beyond my father the omni king. I am here and I am still a life , this is my creation not my father's. Amen.😊
I think its more reasonable to say that he became the super dragon balls
My main theory is that he split himself up into a bunch of smaller pieces and created the namekian race and split them between 6 and 7
That’s why they can make dragon balls
And can fuse together to become stronger
Wow you found the universe he’s in, that definitely narrows it down
“I GOT KIDS TO MAKE IT HOME TO‼️”😂
If they reveal him they should reveal Akira Toriyama was him all along. Because he granted all our wishes as kids.
EXCELLENT POINTS, however being captured does not mean he's free of Omni King's power. No matter where you are, if your universe gets deleted, you go with it. Chances are he exists OUTSIDE the 12 just like Omni King.
Zalama was what they called Kami and king piccolo when they were one. Piccolo is a reincarnated peice of zalama
Goku mui=angel
Vegeta ue=destroyer
Orange piccolo=supreme kai(Zalama?).
If it's true vegeta would die if piccolo die 😂.
For someone who had a power to made a creature that can control the entire universe, zalama origin should be out of the universe.
Or since he was so powerful, he could have made them everlasting and eternal even after his death.
Very good and logical reasoning.
Zalama is where the writers of DragonBall decide to put Zalama at. There mystery solved
That seems like a HUUGE oversight by Zeno and the angels. Imagine they zapped away Zalama from one of the universes being erased and they couldn't give the winner their wish because of it?
Nice theory there can be one variation though
1) he created dragonballs and then split himself into two or more bodies. One body lives in universe 6 and another in universe 7 so till the time at least one body lives Dragonballs stay active. (Unlike Kami who created Dragonball after splitting himself)
Now this number 2 is just an assumption
2) nail (now fused with piccolo jr.) could be one of the body that's probably why nail insisted so much to fuse with piccolo jr. You see mail was really strong compared to average namekian (Guru said he was a fighter class and not a dragon class - but that might be just a lie to hide his true abilities.)
And since every namekian in universe 6 fused into 2 bodies it could be either one of those (maybe universe 6 zalma half further went on to divide himself and strategically choose to be in multiple bodies. Or maybe all namekians are basically splits from zalma only)
i think you probably have thought harder about this than toriyama ever did lol
They knew the super dragonballs would work no matter which universes were deleted so it could be the fact of just not deleting zalama
He is chilling with Yamoshi and Shibai Ōtsutsuki from Boruto
except Shibai actually has some chance of ever appearing
Alternatively, as the creator of the first and most powerful set of dragonballs ever created, it's highly possible he and they are not subject to that particular rule
People think this guy's strong because he created the Super Dragon balls, but we know that the Dragon Ball type manekians aren't strong. They typically just have mystical abilities so he's just probably the one that's achieved the highest level of riskicle abilities to create them and is probably immortal given that the Dragon balls kind of need him to be alive to function
This would create a reason Zeno did what Zeno did to figure this out awesome theory. For it's up to the writers but diffently would make a great story line.
My guess is that Toriyama didn’t think that far ahead.
He could also be too powerful for Zeno to just blip away
Nerds speculating on what they think is going on in a fictional show , arguing and debating about it, when the writers haven’t even created the lore yet is so….damn…..fun lol. Y’all thought I was bout to hate 😂