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We're doing something a little bit different today.
You know our series, Pros vs. Ams? Well today it's LIVE!
Shaun Webb & Mike Granato will be discussing how you can keep yourself open at impact to get that perfect golf swing EVERY TIME.
This might have been the most helpful video I’ve ever watched. Definitely helped me!!!! Show more like this in the future please.
Cool stuff. Let's get Mike strapped up next. Would love to see the numbers the big guy gets into.
You think that suit would fit on me?😂
I love this channel. Wonderful interaction between the two instructors. This lesson was informational for sure. I would like to see a lesson/explanation on how the swing with the trail foot moved back away from the target line. It helps make a better turn away from the target increasing force on the hit. Any advice making a swing that way? Thanks.
That can definitely help with backswing rotation, but that does not guarantee a better impact. Have you been doing this in your swing? How have the results been?
Amazing video. Love the technology and the numbers. I kept opening my shoulders 10-15%. Now I understand why I was pulling the ball.
Thank you
Gentlemen, that was gold! It has never occurred to me that the chest can rotate to some degree independent of the where the shoulder/arms appear to be. Working your drill was a revelation, which led to a (for me anyway) a feel of leaving the shoulders square while rotating everything else underneath into the lead side wall. (I wonder if that was what is what the old time adage to hit with a firm lead side meant?) Bye bye spinning shoulders, hello cleaned up impact. Did I mention that was gold? Heck that was platinum! Cleared up a what had been mystery for me, thanks a ton!
Some of your finest work. I’m always working on impact and watching this realized my shoulders are way too open at impact. Time to book a lesson!
Glad it helped, Arthur, thanks for watching!
Hey guys, thanks again for your insightful research! Can you talk about how this would blend with your current video about starting the hands faster, quicker, and in the proper direction? I have been working with both! Thanks, Ron
Ps: on the downswing!
This really helped with the angles connecting to the visuals of the body.
Awesome🙏
Content and value of these types of videos are off the chart !!!!
I'm going back down the rabbit hole and revisiting your impact videos. Had an AHA moment at work that I've been stopping my rotation between delivery position and impact and not realizing it. Think that is what is leading to bad contact and unpredictable ball flight. Thanks.
Man I wish you guys were in my area. I would love to get on the setup and get some real hard data about my own swing. Excellent!!!
I feel the most important thing is the angle of your shoulder and your hip separation at impact.
So cool to see the actual suit up. This makes so much more sense than the one I saw before where they use straps and probably limit the golfers movements. 👍🏻👍🏻😃
No question, Winston, no one felt comfortable with all those wires everywhere.
Pretty amazing stuff. Very very helpful. Appreciate you guys making this content!
Thank you for the detailed information about the golf swing ...I’m already swinging much better, more athletic swing, that’s because of the gears machine and showing how the pressure switches. Very enlightening!
In some other videos by AMG I took the “chest and hips open at same time” a bit too literally I think. I’ve been struggling coming in at the correct angle when I open hips/chest seemingly well. What is crucial that I haven’t considered is the shoulders themself need to stay more closed a bit longer coming down. It feels like I need to actively sort of make sure my shoulder line stays closed to square’ish up until impact. Then I can let it all go.
So the feeling shown here of hips and chest/ribs getting open while shoulder stay square is really a key thing for me. If I don’t focus on that, I have no separation and I have poor shot quality.
Good stuff guys!!! I have the worst problem with lifting my head as i swing down to impact. High right shots and toe impact on club. Have u made a video on that problem???
That's most always an indication of poor sequencing and a club that's out of position coming down. Check out any of our plane videos👍
Great info. Thanks
Good posture, ball position and grip are good starts to hitting these positions.
Those never go out of style!
Hey guys, great video again with a lot of good info! Actually I am struggeling with a very open hip at impact. When looking at videos it seems its even more than 45°. Meanwhile I think this is one of my key issues why I am struggeling to hit the ball solid. I am facing a lot of scooping the ball, with hands being flippy. I would like to get more compression to the ball, lower ball flights as well. Thats why I am having often fat shots and a ballflight to the left. Also I am seeing my right foot coming a lot of the ground before impact, propably because of my "fast" hip.
So its kind of the opposit what you just explained but can you maybe give some tips for this issue? Think also a lot of very young players are facing the same issue.
THX love your content!!!!
Thanks for the drills guys great stuff . I have to watch the rotation drill a few times to get it straight. I've had 5 spine surgeries myself. 2 lower and c2- c5 are fused with metal rods.
wow, two?!😖Accident?
Industrial accident when I was 39, I'm 66 now, had to learn to walk again. Still have never damage and pain , but at 64 I decided to play golf. Doctors are amazed.
@@randymahony8157 I've got all the respect in the world for you to be out there playing and improving!
Hi Mike and Shaun, Can you comment and Rory's body angles when his club is parallel to the ground so we can understand the final movements prior to impact.
Anything in particular you're wondering about?
Shoulder, chest, and hip angles. For example, are his hips at 45 degrees when the club is parallel so that he is turning his chest and shoulders more from that position in order to reach the impact position. How much rotation is needed to get from club parallel in the downswing to the impact position. Thanks!
@@davidenck8090 gotcha... at last parallel, hips are open 35ish, chest square, shoulders closed 15ish.
Great video unfortunately I must be loose hipped! even at 60! so I have to feel that my left leg is so solid at impact or my left foot spins with my hip.I have improved my striking and distance by working on my chest/shoulder blade region. I feel like Im doing a martial art punching drill! a bit like you demonstrate early in the video i think calling it retraction. its working great Im now down to 4.9! I think i get my pecs/shoulders working fractionally b4 my arms move which fits in with your get everything done early advice so Ive moved an inch and got behind the shaft.
Awesome vid again...now where do I get me a ‘gears’ 😂
For me this is a superb video. There is so much stuff out there about rotation in the golf swing but there are very few videos that present the real data. The single number that really struck me was the 5 deg shoulder rotation.
That's a big one, John. The swing is still typically taught as if both the shoulders and chest/torso are doing the same things. The reality is they're quite different.
@@AthleticMotionGolf Well, I think that is the point. I've been trying to get a handle on how open the shoulders should be at impact, and basically they are not open at all - except perhaps to a tiny degree. Thanks again.
I ALMOST feel guilty getting to watch this for free. So good.
What’s the advantage of being more open over less open? Such as 45 versus 40 with the hips? Speed?
Great video guys.🏌️♂️
Thanks, Matthew🙏
There is one measurement that I feel is important that is seldom talked about, the angle between the left arm and golf shaft at impact. The only golfers I’ve seen that maintain this angle at impact are Ben Hogan and Moe Norman.
Was messing around with this today and I noticed a couple things. I was hitting a draw and was hitting the ball almost 20 yards farther with my driver. I found I had to move the ball a little bit farther away from my body and I noticed I was finding myself hitting the ball fat more often which makes me think I may have been externally rotating my shoulder and getting the club caught behind me
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This is a great video guys! Thanks!
Could you guys do a video that focuses on shoulder position relative to the chest or rib cage? I like to feel a stretch in the back swing but I think that gets my shoulders too closed relative to the chest. and slows down my rotation. I know everyone has different body geometry but a pros vs ams video could at least show trends among the best golfers
Cool breakdown! I wonder where I can get suited up to practice this!
Where are you located, Bruce?
@@AthleticMotionGolf Calgary, Alberta Canada
@@BruceBusby I'm not aware of anyone in your neck of the woods, but Atlanta is just a short drive😊
@@AthleticMotionGolf if you consider 3000 miles a short drive! Lol I may consider flying though
Cool video Mike...any chance you could do a live gears video on lead arm adduction angle??
Already been shot😉
Really interesting stuff gents! Demystifying the holy grail of "open at impact"
Great video. I can easily get into the Rory ranges but I cannot get there and also have enough corresponding right side bend
Good stuff gentlemen!
OMG....AMG...superb stuff thanks
Hi Lads, during the part of set-up, when side tilt is -10 (right side down) and that the rib cage opens up 10 10 deg is this not due to the fryette law?
Awesome loved this
Athletic Motion Golf, Have you seen a GEARS on Cameron Champ's swing? I would be really interested in the numbers of his impact position. Thanks
We haven't. We need to get Sean and him in the warehouse for a capture.
you lucky bastards and your sweet tech.. i would never leave that room.
The left leg appears straight at impact. Correct?
Great video! Would these metrics be the same for driver impact without the shift?
thanks guys, shoulder to chest line is new, will work on. Again though, this style puts heavy, heavy stress into the left knee after the drift move...how many left knee surgeries did tiger have and other pros? maybe discuss in an episode common golf inuries, ie wrist back knee..identify what is causing these injuries and how to alleviate some of the " pressure or force buildups"? two, you can shoot under par with a reverse weight shift front to back swipe across...when i swing like this method, my miss is a weak push fade from late drive and head drive...push fades are xxxxxxxxxxx
That's becasue every time you make a reverse weight shift swipe across swing, you're forcing yourself to have a face that open to the path. Then when you make a non-reverse shift, non-swiped path the face is still open to the path. What exactly puts heavy heavy stress on the left knee?
@@AthleticMotionGolf yep a pull fade miss is better than a push fade...well it would be the "drift move".. the bump.. mcclroy has a vid where he shows his move from the top. i'm forty one with a mush knee cause i copied tigers. i'm just saying the only thing that matters is a "playable club path"..open face one out in one.... square face in out one....maybe theres two's and three's and different combos. my in out paths "feel better" but my misses are more severe the out in paths dont feel as great but produce better misses...35 years of golf and i'm still trying to figure out which one is better...lol thx guys also guys i wish there was a stickwall thingy where you could feel the exact impact angle of the shaft WHEN YOU STRIKE THE BALL..with motion added mind you...something you smack up against that gives you the feedback of shaft angle, the angle of the hands, and the feeling of the face angle....all 3333333333333333 impact bag doesnt work because you can bow or flex your wrist...twist the face...etc..get what the rock is cooking?
@@chadschulze1735 gotcha, I see where you're coming from now. I've had my left knee cut on and that "snapping" move gives me the cold sweats lol. If you can come up with a device that does that, you will make a LOT of 💵😊
@@AthleticMotionGolf no money needed, just like to help. sorry about your knee.. pain is a great motivator to change current thinking models...i got some kool ideas i'm trying to make cheap devices for anyone to use maybe when i'm ready i'll make a trip to visit and we can experiment with alternative ways to store and deliver force. great jobs guys love the vids and thanks for responding.
@@AthleticMotionGolf food for thought...two topics i always fight...i am a hovering club wabbaler. golf club is always fighting neutral and i can never "find the face". understand? all clubs are like this. all clubs are designed wrong. this is going to take outside the box thinking to enhance. sorry its all i got right now...your studs aren't you? topic two...which applies to topic one...grip vs shaft angle at the start...i'm wabbaling more open and hands back and shoving my left elbow and arm down and in makes more of a cupped UP feeling. the other wabble my hands are way forward and up on the plane line at the start they move flatter and out and around....i'm always fucking with the wabble, the grip to shaft angle, and the angle and feeling of my hands at the top of the swing. theres a hundred different feeling combos. not thinking about this would be nice. lol good luck on this one boyz, this is big boy thinkn
Still the very best!
The difficulty of swinging like a tour player is quite humbling. These exhibitions are proof that golfing at a high level requires serious athleticism. Thanks again fellas!
Thanks for watching bud. The good news is, we don't have to function in that range to play good golf.
Thanks to these proven concepts I’ve made drastic improvements after years struggling with consistency
@@josephpolk6834 That's awesome! Great job putting these concepts to work👊
How did you get Rory's gears swing data ? Is this available online?
First class video
where do you get these capture motion suits and gear?
Have any teachers you recommend in the Seattle area??
From the camera angle, it was hard to determine where the shoulders were pointing compared to the target line. Are they still pointing down the target line at impact?
Very close to it👍
thanks for the video. Im able to set my perfect impact position, but when its time to hit the ball Im raising my head and standing up early right before impact!! i have watched every video of the AMG academy but cant make it work full speed! Please any advice?
Watching any video won’t allow you to make a change a full speed. The process to the change you want is to take the info from the video (one at a time) and make enough slow speed swings until you can’t do wrong, then add the next piece, and so on. There is a ton of reps that must be made between video and seeing it a full speed. If you aren’t seeing it at full speed it just means you haven’t ingrained the necessary movements.
If power come from "slingshotting" the the left arm off the chest , how is the chest more open than the shoulders ? That would create a small angle between the left arm and chest where slingshotting the arm off the chest would be a larger angle between left angle and the chest
Keep in mind that the shoulders are not attached to the chest and have a large range of motion independent of the chest.
Thanks for the response ! If the sternum/chest is more open than the shoulders at impact, wouldn't that mean the left arm would be pinned against the chest more than it was at address ? I thought the left arm moving away from the chest created clubhead speed, or is that process just starting to happen at impact ?
@@tpbriplahey7384 Just the opposite actually. Remember lead shoulder is protracted forward. The lead arm is moving (should be moving) away from the trail shoulder the entire downswing. It's a 3D movement, so it's moving out and down.
U guys are like the gooses laying golden egg after golden egg.
Shaun or Shawn? Your website is Shaun and this video is Shawn 🤷♂️
Belly Fat (NAFL) reduction would make it easier guys?
I always thought Greg Norman had very little rotation at impact, in videos his hips are open a fraction, and shoulders slighty closed
If he flares his right foot more open towards the target a la Hogan he will hit Rory's number easier.
Absolutely IMPOSSIBLE without that forward lateral shift. Should be extremely eye-opening. You can’t complete the “circle” if you’re not deep into the front leg.
Nice to see gears in live action. Must admit not that flattering on the look though!
Rory is nowhere near as rotated as Dustin Johnson would you agree?
Just the opposite actually😉
Just to confirm the rotation is a tilted rotation.
Down through impact, yes. There's a spine tilt number above the goflers head on the screen that shows how it moves with the rotation👍
Id do anything to have this in my house lol. And I would 100% get fired for no show. Id brang it under the bridge wimme.
The more you open the more you got to be lower. Right ?
Can you explain what you mean by that, Paul?
Athletic Motion Golf with more shaft lean from being more open looks like you have to lower to reach ball . That would be more flexing of lower body in transition. That what I’m asking is that true ? Looks like his head is lower when he’s getting in that impact position.
@@BamaPaul gotcha... the net at impact is that both the upper and lower are moving up a small amount. That's from the centers. The trailside is lower, the lead side higher. Is that answering your question?
Athletic Motion Golf well from address position you look like you are lower at impact position. I’m looking at top of head.
@@BamaPaul yeah think of the head as like a magician's misdirection, lol. The head isn't a good indicator of what the body is doing because of the range of motion at the neck. The head is often moving down as the body is going up.
Wow... I’m surprised you haven’t talked about the third vertebrate tension feeding off the medial collateral ligament. 😬 this is exactly what is wrong with golf instruction. 👎
Bullshit stuff, wasting peoples energy.
This is too complicated guys probably not flexible enough to do this
Which part, Terry, maybe we can help clear it up?
good info guys..thanks
Thanks for watching🙏
How did you get Rory's gears swing data ? Is this available online?