The Problem With Commander Mechanics In Modern Legal Sets
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- Here's my issue with these sets that are direct to Modern but designed for Commander....
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You're telling me Assassin's Creed was a modern set to begin with? I must have missed that at some point, because I would have NEVER guessed based off of the spoilers. I just thought it was another Fallout.
Regardless. I'm skipping the set if we don't get Bullfrog. Which is uh... Likely that he won't be in the set. But I can hope.
First I heard about it being modern legal
Well even in the presentation someone of them called it Comander Horizons 3 so... It doesn't suprise anybody here XD Sad but true... :S
That was a simple mistake made after the presenter watched losers spam "Commander Horizons 3!!!" In the Twitch chat. They just implanted the thought into his mind.
I miss the days when commander sets were only able to shake up legacy, god I’m getting old 😢
One nitpick, I think the Dr. Who, Fallout, & Warhammer precons all sold well, but as Gordon Gecko infamously said, "greed is good."
Sadly, Modern is becoming the new Legacy format. Reserved List cards have become a barrier to get new players into Legacy. So Wizards decided to turn Modern into the Legacy and funnel supplemental sets into it and created Pioneer to be the new Modern, and have started trickling old Modern staples like Liliana of the Veil, Ugin, etc, and possibly Jace, Mind Sculptor into Pioneer.
To be honest, the issue is a bit more systemic. It’s not just game design but the fact that modern isn’t a thing in many LGSs anymore. In a lot of cases if you want to play magic, it’s either a limited format, or commander
I'm with you in that Freerunning including Commanders is pretty egregious. However I don't think that the presence of so many Legendary creatures in the set has to do with Commander necessarily (obviously legendary creatures matter to commander though). Assassin's Creed as an IP has such focus on important historical figures and the named characters of the games that I think (at least from a flavour point of view) I would expect the majority of all creatures in the set to be legends. Doubly so given the small size of the set
This right here
[[That's what I'm saying!]]
Thank you for saving me some words
1:19 - THEY'RE PLAYESTING SETS NOW????? shocking news to me and everyone who has faced Nadu in the last week.
They'll playtest for Commander, but it's still valid to be skeptical about their playtesting for Modern and Standard, lol.
@@jasonkorf7700 I don't even know how you "playtest for commander" What does that playgroup look like? that sounds absolutely insane to be honest. And things like Hullbreacher kind of make me side eye that idea as well...
@@ReyaadawnMTG Wotc apparently has a Casual Play Design team that's in charge of designing for Commander. So they don't print another Hullbreacher or repeat some other mistakes that came from previous Commander products like the Partner mechanic. They also do playtesting for Commander, like the video mentions.
I figure it's play a bunch of games of Commander and seeing what they like and what they don't and going from there.
Edit: This team was created because of the issues with Commander Legends, especially Hullbreacher.
@jasonkorf7700, but still nadu made it thru. And those error will keep happening as long as they are undermanned. Remember, before they had a card design contest, they're no longer picking ppl form the playerbase to design. Only some pros make it thru.
@@W4llh4k I want to know who they need “outside consultants” Why can’t the company pay its own fulltime people to playtest and know the cards to design. Why would they need others, unless they’re cheaper of course….oh….
I love how - well actually it's quite depressing - all kinds of different formats players (modern, pauper, commander, it doesnt matter). all dont want their format to be catered to
It says something that for a while I had no idea this was a modern legal set, I was looking at spoilers with the Freerunning mentioning “commander” and the lack of any obvious high-power pushed cards I thought it was a weird direct-to-eternal undraftable set
Hot Take: Freerunning is not good, combat damage is unreliable and holding an overcosted card in your hand that depends on you dealing combat damage with your commander to be efficient is a liability.
I mean..
Thats a cold take
thats easy to comply with any commander that cost 3 or less.
since you will be casting the commander on turn 2~3, attack an slow player on turn 3~4 and cast the freerunning card on post combat main
Time of legends was technically standard legal during throne of eldraine, but IIRC you couldn’t pull it from packs. The only way to get it was from the brawl precons, which according to the rules for brawl had to be standard legal cards only. Arcane signet and command tower are staples in formats that use the commander rule, so they were printed into the precons which made them standard legal in order to be used as intended but weren’t a true part of the eldraine set. The “standard” cards that referenced commander were just printed as tools for brawl because they were still trying to make that happen.
Don't make me tap the sign
*There are non assassin commanders in the set that can free run in the games*
Haytham Kenway and Shay Cormac, so in that sense it keeps the flavor
There needs to be more separation of commander from the rest of the sets in magic. Yes, it is the most popular format, but when is enough enough? WOTC needs to stop printing cards for commander specific reasons in sets like this. That is why commander specific releases are a thing, like MH3 having commander stuff (which, don't get me started on, but it at least had it). This is why commander precons are a thing. This is getting ludicrous.
One of the things that bothers me most is, the color of creatures used to matter. What the characters philosophy was, what their motivations etc all factored into their color. And it was a big deal when characters added or changed colors (Kamahl is a notable example) and now because Commander has such a hunger for every combination of colors for creatures you see two, three, four color versions of characters with no lore reason.
I'd venture a guess it's not something they even think about anymore.
i love edh but they really need to chill with catering everything for edh players. edh players can do without every single product being pushed for them.
Every year i miss more that the commander product was a yearly released instead of every set
What does commander homogenization have to do with "commander cards in Modern bad"? They're kind of two different problems
I think the problem becomes if a set is primarily designed for multiplayer, without playtesting for 1v1, cards that seem fair in a four player game can actually be busted in 1v1 formats.
A perfect example would be Initiative in Pauper and Legacy. It was a balanced mechanic when playing with 3 other players, but broke both of those formats to the point bannings were required to fix them.
Arcane Signet and Command Tower are already modern legal fwiw
Why?! Neither does anything outside of commander.
@@ianfraser2572 It's from the original brawl decks, they needed to be standard legal to be brawl legal
bring back the format Elder Dragon Highlander, where the rules are the same as commander, but instead of being called "your commander", it's called "your general"; that way, anything that references "your commander" does nothing, since it isn't your commander, it's your general.
What's been a growing problem for years is how every set, every format is now in direct competition with Commander
Tome of Legends, like Arcane Signet and even Command Tower, were legal in standard because they were specifically printed into the brawl formst that had to be standard only. Thats why Korvold was in standard as well, for the new commander spin off format, brawl.
I could see freerunning working with some other tribes, like possibly Ninjas. Maybe pirates if they wanna go the route of the varying types of assassins we've had through the games. But applying it to commander is both so lazy but also too allencompassing at the same time. We can have Eldrazi freerunning now?
"Prowl" is almost exactly what you want. Instant and sorceries have to be kindred though.
Freerunning is prowl minus kindred, plus commander (which I agree makes no sense)
Tome of Legends was not printed in a standard set. It was printed in one of the brawl decks which were standard legal cards. But you could not open that card in a throne of eldraine booster pack. It still is annoying that a product designed to be used with standard was not a standard playable card though. Just like Arcane Signet and command Tower being in those decks they were technically standard legal but not standard playable.
Hello, with the Black pip thing for "no reason," I feel like it fits because death touch is a black mechanic primarily. Now I don't know much about Assassin's creed so it might also be their for flavor, but having black fits, for me at least.
Now the freerunning, I can see it both ways. Yes it should be an assassin thing but not all commanders want to swing and it would allow for some tricky swings in those non attack commanders and value for those that do.
I agree, if a card is going to reference commander specific rules and terms, it should only be printed for commander. If it’s not going to be printed commander exclusive (aside from eternal formats that allow any cards regardless of set), then don’t reference commander specific terms
I do understand what you are saying, and i dont even know why Assassin Creed should be a modern set and not a commander set. But freerunning working with commanders i think it was made for make it working with non assassin commanders from assassin creed.
This is literally the reason moved to cube and battle box because wizards just exists to extract money from the player base. You just need to look at the number of sets printed in the last year compared to 5 years ago.
I have product fatigue
Bro…. They literally made Commander decks for MH3. Didn’t see any Modern Energy Precons or anything like that for new Modern players. I’m very tired of Commander everything.
So you should give fetches and modern staples in the precons? And the price of the precons what would it be?
@@vittoriosavian9964 yeah sure… why not? I’m sure WoTC could figure out a price. You could easily put together Tron, Burn, and a few other tier 2 decks as affordable modern precons.
I get that Arcane Signet and Tome of Legends were technically standard legal, but being that you couldn't get them in packs and only in the Brawl decks, would it be fair to say these were printed into standard? I mean, literally yes, but like you would have had to go out of your way to pick up a supplementary product to get them right? Nitpicks aside, WoTC really are losing the forest for the trees here.
But this is not new. We had the merrying of Warriors with Samurais, Ninjas and Rogues and the batching of modified from Kamigawa Neon Dinasty; and that is not a real problem really. This case with AC it is maybe too much, but the batching and avoiding parasitic mechanics is good.
This line was crossed when partners got introduced
There is no going back now
With throne of eldraine, we also had command tower legal in standard because the brawl/commander decks were standard legal. That also gave us korvold, which saw play until it rotated. I love the idea of new cards for commander, but when you have primarily commander players testing modern sets it becomes a problem IMHO. pauper won't be affected by AC with zero commons in the set.
Ever since the printing of arcane signet and paper brawl huge failure they've noticed that comander is what really sells; as this video points out that's going to mean more people want this cards but also make the format stale and boring to brew, They've been on this track for a while and made me stop caring about products. lately I've been selling staples (r-study, great henge, dockside, free spells, tutors, and son on) and this made me realize deck building is suddenly fun again and winning games is more rewarding.
Tbh I didn't think anyone was excited or expecting Assassin's creed to be a set with modern in mind.
I always expected the UB sets to have commander as the priority since that's the most casual and best selling format, the modern legality is just to open the set up to other players anks sell more packs. Hell even WotC was like "yeah we kinda tested it with modern but it's mostly for commander." They probably only made a smaller set because Ubisoft could pay enough to get precons or enough cards for it.
Free running definitely should have been only assassin's. Its purely to sell more packs adding commanders to free running and to try and get people that dont play assassin's to buy product. Especially since they are doing the shitty 7 card boosters, I think they are DESPERATE to make this product more desirable
They will keep printing cards for commander until morale improves.....or they need to milk the fan base 😅
We made this format. We let them destroy it
Why were there no AC commander precon decks when they made this set fully for the commander format?
I didn't even know it was legal in Modern, I'm used to Universes just being Commander specific
I think the Lord of the rings set sales made them want to do that for Assassins creed. I am hoping this doesn't sell well, I feel like this set isn't needed, should have waited a bit, released MH3 and then just burnwillow or whatever it's called.
Makes about as much sense as a commander player getting mad about all the draft chaff diluting sealed product - all Universes Beyond is fanservice for EDH even if it impacts other eternal formats - they're just trying to push overpriced bling to closet EDH players hiding in other formats
I would love a modern set with reprints. There’s so many modern cards from old sets I need and don’t really feel like hunting them down over various sites.
is it festivus already?
One thing i love about decks like lifegain or etb decks is a lot of the cards you want to play are the older cards because they have supported them so long before the everything mtg.
it should have been like prowl, but for assassins instead of rogues
Where did this meme that master sets failed? they were 24/7 sold out everywhere.
I agree on the point of Freerunning did NOT need to include 'commander' it could have just be an 'Assassin tribal' mechanic and been just fine.
Cocks said that MTG Fallout Commander set is “probably the best performing Commander set ever” and was even highlighted as such in the quarterly earnings. Mind you this followed after the 40k decks which wasn't hailed as a great seller and wasn't received well either. but then the LOTR set came along and that was hailed as 'the biggest selling set' per the quarterly earnings report.
They are just using the same footprint as they did the LOTR set. it was probably their biggest seller without the limitations of making it just commander product (being released so soon after Fallout that is)
i love how people were saying this will happen years ago and everyone said no your crazy i saw it coming
Tome of legends was made for brawl not standard but they made it standard legal along with command tower, but the reason they did so was excused because they said it was to get brawl onto arena
I believe it is because Commander is the most popular format. And this will continue to happen as players leave other formats to play Commander.
And when Hasbro and Wotc fucks over the Commander crowd bye bye Mtg. "Don't put all your eggs in one basket."
You used to be able to find a few cards that weren't good for standard/extended to play in commander...
Now you'll rarely find cards that work better when you can play 4 (as in not great for commander)
From: standard is the default, build around a card for commander
To: commander is the default, build around cards for standard (and pioneer, modern, etc.)
Did you ever thought about a Podcast? I like listening to your voice and Argumentation :)
They do it because it's how they make more money. Commander is way more popular as a format and if they have a set that doesn't cater to those players, it's like leaving money on the table. Don't blame Wizards, Don't blame commander players, blame the fucking share holders that need their quarterly reports to have bigger numbers because they need that 20th super yacht.
Greed of the elite is going to drive the entire company into the ground and then it's Tencent here we come
Mh3 should be called commander legends 2
As a cammander player 😅 I'm glad that it's the focused format
I'm the opposite, the format has changed in a way I don't like.
Good for you right? You got your's so fuck everyone else right?
@user-rw5zw9wi2q I mean the player base has been shifting to commander for a while.
I do a LGS rotation around my city. These are about 20 LGS around. Most are smaller like 3 tables. Some are quite a bit larger. I alway inquire about the playgroups. I've not found a single shop that had the modern clientele to merit organized play. Most shops I visit are even reticent to buy my expensive modern staples, for a percentage, in store credit. I completely get it. Losing just 1-2 games on turn 0 to scam is enough to remove you from most prize pools. 30% of tier one modern decks are built around scam. Do the math...
i'd like to introduce you to PDH :)
Prowl is literally freerunning before wizards went mad
I think free running should have worked like how ninjas did in neon. Anything that references an assassin says “assassin or rogue”, giving it that small boost in flexibility, but I agree I don’t like commander.
I love you man, and I get what you are saying, but don't you also play pauper where we sometimes have some really weird text in our cards referencing commanders (I think we have some).. that says if it's modern legal with that being the selling point then that should be what it's tested on.
When the card says "target opponent"
This is where the Universes Beyond discussion comes into play again.
I remember you saying "sucks to suck" when you are automatically against UB". However Universes Beyond is specifically designed for people who don't play Magic to pull them in with recognizable IP. Enfranchised players rather buy singles than mass-rip boosters, or like amazon calls it, they show less "customer obsession". It's like a food delivery service giving you -20% on your order if you are a newcomer specifically. This plus additional online outrage like with black Aragorn while having white Eastlings. Nobody gives two sh*** about race when we don't care for one another in the first place. It draws eyes, thats all that counts.
It's a standard marketing scheme and the enfranchised customer ("player" in MtG) is on the losing end. Thats what Universes beyond is and that's why it eventually will be the downfall of the game when everything literally becomes everything, except it legally can't be reprinted.
@8:39 says it all
I agree with most of your points but the magic boomer in me can't help but chuckle a bit, remembering a time when there was really only 1 format.
Considering if there's just better card games out there
I’m buying a box not because I like assassin’s creed but because I’m building the new etrata and I wanna summon vecna in a edh game with the Templar knights
Well have new companions soon 😊.
idk all the cards seem kinda bad so it seems pretty ignorable but yea its bad out here
Ok, but saying tome of legends was "printed into standard" is a bit of a stretch,
It was printed into the brawl decks that were companion piece
A bigger issue with those decks was korvold
This is an interesting take!
I wonder how much of an influence and talent of those laid off by WOTC. Such a shame to see them go even when MTG is making profits, and they should've just kept them as invaluable assets
you're telling me that commander products are playtested for commander but NOT legacy and it's going straight to legacy whaaaaaa??? it's those sorta vibes
Every set released now will be a commander set. It’s their biggest cash cow.
It's the bleeding effect 😬
Commander players cry over spilled milk.
Mark my words in a year there will be a new rule that in every format “commander” is a way to refer to any legendary creature on the battlefield. Any abilities that reference commander mean any legendary creature.
Also let’s be honest whenever players play a format competitively as a way to lower the skill cap in deckbuilding people will come up with heuristics in order to make it easier to build new decks. This is especially true when you have a casual format where players are not as good at deckbuilding and could need a bit of help in order to build a better deck and have a better experience.
Also, at what point has commander cannibalized 60 card play that in. order to get these players back into a format you put in a card in the set that to put them in a standard legal set you hope that they will play the 60 card format. That the card for commander will make them interested or aware of different ways of playing.
a couple cards in modern for commander isnt hurting you or commander players
I think the reason why WotC is catering Commander players is because one table playing commander has four players while any other format has only two.
Hot Take: Universes Beyond sets should probably not be (non-commander) constructed legal.
This is like if you let Call of Duty players playtest the Elden Ring DLC
Modern is fucked anyways who cares? Shits like a turn 2-3 format now you may as well just play Legacy.
We gonna act like Freerunning isn’t just a retooled Prowl lol. It’s not that big a deal. Modern is an eternal format at this point. I think people are taking this too seriously. If people are mad about wizards and their business practices. Stop playing magic. That’s the only way to send a message.
As someone who has played exclusively Commander for over a decade, Commander (and Magic in general) was far healthier when Wizards filtered everything through Standard.
You dont want to see the salt score on edhrec
Welcome to the club, modern was ruined for me back when modern horizons released. I played commander happily until Ikoria released then universes beyond destroyed mtgs need for developing more lore and story. The powercreep in the last 5 years alone made a CEDH deck powered down all the way to a 7 from a 9.
Commanders been ruined as well now
Where is the actual problem when cards reffere "commander"??
For many years there where no cards specifically made for commander or modern.
Then there where special sets for those formats and people hated that.
And now they are angry, that cards are not just exclusive for their format????
Seriously?
Commander is 90% of the player base? Where is the logic that cards cannot work in both?
Did commander players whine so much, when good cards are expensive because of modern?
TBH, modern players should just shut up and be happy that their niche format still gets that kind of support.
Modern has become the new legacy.
"NICHE" 🤣
I hear commander players complaining about card prices due to 60 card formats constantly...
As someone that started playing magic back in like 2003, it bugs me because edh was a deck building challenge using whatever you could find and make something cool and unique. Now it's just a mainstream cash grab that actively hurts every other format because wizards keeps commander in mind with every single set as opposed to just making cool sets that happen to have cards you could use to upgrade your edh deck.
Not to mention it went from a format that was just a fun way to use bad cards you loved between matches at an event to a hyper competitive money pit with 100 card decks that share 30-60% of its list with every other deck in those colors.
Also, modern is nowhere close to legacy. Commander is closer to legacy than modern is now.
The big problem is the balance going into all the formats. Over the last few years even commons that are showing to not be tested in constructed 60 card base formats that are made to interact in a multi-player setting is forcing mass power spikes to the formats. Commander was suppose to be pure casual. The more focus of commander the game goes to it destroys the rest of the game.
1. Telling the players of the format to sit down and shut up about advertised product for their format being falsely advertised is probably one of the worst takes to have. These official formats are the only ones getting sanctioned events and are gathering far more players than commander events ever get. There isn't an issue with cards being able to work in both formats. The problem is cards designed for commander that due well, over perform in other formats and end up banned.
2. Comparing modern to legacy is just wrong. The sheer difference in cost to entry and of the best decks plus the difference in available cards to the format is too massive to compare. If legacy was as accessible as modern was, it would see actual official tournaments.
3. Commander designed and tested cards printing into non-commander formats are destroying these formats faster than the actual designed modern cards are. Don't get me wrong FIRE design is killing the game as a whole, but commander cards designed this way are warping commander let alone legacy and modern.
4. Cards were designed for standard with older formats in mind for decades. The health of older official formats was always a thought until FIRE design took over back when the first Eldraine set was printed.
5. Commander players are not 90% of the player base. It is a growing format, but there are plenty more playing official formats either in paper, arena, or MTGO.
6. The modern format does not dictate cards being expensive or not. You can thank legacy and vintage for that. If modern only cards were not allowed in these formats, card prices for the format would likely decrease significantly.
7. Modern is not a niche format. It is one of the largest official formats that is played to date. Commander is not an official format. Per WotC Kitchen table 60 card is still the most played way of the game casually with commander creeping up on it.
@@Goggles1975 do you mean for example monarch in Pauper oder Legacy? Those are format, where cards are not tested for and banned if needed.
All standard sets and modern sets are tested for 60 1v1.
"The more focus of commander the game goes to it destroys the rest of the game." This is just nonesense. What do you mean "destroy"? All sets in the last 10 years have "Commander cards".
The "power spikes" haven't come for commander specific cards. The elementals from MH2, Oko, the Ring weren't commander cards.
Because Commander is the only thing that matters anymore. You either play Commander or you get fucked 💁
Hot take: games are made to cater to the greatest number of people. Secondly, games shouldn't have balance teams, it makes the game unfun.
Bro whining like modern wasn’t designed to contain all “modern legal cards” sounds like coping to me 😂
It’s not about modern cards, it’s about that the set designs are so focused on several vectors at the same time and it’s annoying and ruining the previously catered experience that previous sets had.
Someone said Commander Horizons for MH1, MH3, and every set.
Let me know why ya think Modern is the premier format that should be the protected baby of WOTC? Because that ain't the case for like a decade friend. They want to change it.
Not trying to hate on Modern or the commentary but why do we assume that over 50% of the player isn't just Commander/Limited players?
The AC set is basically a Secret Lair Set. Nothing crazy mang.
@@DerronOfCairon 90% of the players are kitchen table, they don't set foot in any sanctioned event, whenever it's a commander league, draft or anything else.
commander is a constructed format
Crying about free running with nitjitsu and dashing exists is crazy lol
So what I got so far is that your mad that they made freerunning playable outside of only a specific set making it so that I don’t have to throw them all out the second I don’t feel like playing assassins. Your mad that they change the wording of cards to allow them to be playable in more than just your format. Your mad that the universes beyond sets have a bunch of legends when their entire point is to represent the characters which you love in magic, these characters which naturally are legendary. Basically your mad that we get more then just your leftovers. Also the reason you call MH3 a commander set is because 1: it didn’t shatter your format into a million pieces with insane power creep. 2: it gave you more products then the old MH sets. Also I do t think the somewhat underpowered and oddball nature of MH3 is bad, for example due to it I managed to make a decently competitive modern turbofog deck, yes turbofog, using things like Tamiyo and six
Becauze money. Edh usta be cool. Neckbeards weirdos and just all around nerds. The least defined meta game type. The omg sol ring turn one platform. The old feeling of trying your damnedest to assemble a win con in 100 card singleton format. Its been ruined by wotc, hasbro, and the massive new influx of players, making wotc look at them like money bags, and lets be honest, yes, its always been the edh players. That and i swear the demographics has changed, away from dads and moms hanging out friday and people that just put in 60 hour work weeks blowing off steam to college kids that think socialism cool.... while they play a capitalism card game about murdering fantasy creatures... well fuck it usta be fantasy. Idk might just be me but, it does feel like its changed alot, and not in a good stable productive way
Oh no, yeah we commander players don’t like it either.
Commander as a format is at its best when Wizards of the Coast ignore our existence
and if they did, I would never have dipped my toes into it, I got interested because of these UB cards
@@Zakharon there are many reasons why making sets designed for commander is a bad idea.
1. Commander is a nonrotating format, meaning that the cards that were legal in the beginning of the games will still be legal when the game is dead. My edh deck that I built 12 years ago can be played today, I will never have to buy another card ever.
2. Commander is a singleton format, meaning that you will only ever need one copy of a card. Meaning that wizards are losing money by catering to commander players
3. Commander was invented by people who had way too many cards and didn’t want to buy into modern sets
4. Commander’s strength is variety. Designing auto include cards that break commander encourages everyone to you the same cards, killing that variety
@@El_Chico_des_Galos apart from point 1 and 3.
2) they are not losing money at all from commander. You can update your list, break apart a deck and create a new one etc...
4) creating or not staples happens even without commander sets. Cyclonic rift, demonic tutor, rhystic study... they didnt came from a commander set. Staples in another format like set might become staples in commander too.
You really don't speak for everyone. I personally want commander to be the new standard so we can have a better ban list and tournaments.
@@MaraStruckMiko you’re a fool. Commander is a non-rotating format. Meaning that the only way for WOTC to ensure that cards for commander sell is to go harder on power creep, until eventually your deck is unplayable unless you buy $300 worth of cards from every new set.
I find it rather confusing that WOTC wants to market and sell to commander players primarily, but cannot just sell commander sets?
Why don't commander sets sell but modern sets do sell?
Are we paying for them to design proxies for commander decks?
Modern players are such babies lmao. Oh no there are good and interesting new cards in your rediculously priced format.
I totally agree that Commander is killing Magic. And Commander is basically all I have cards in paper for, that and basic collection. That's why I'm actually designing my own card game: something to play with my family instead of fighting the ever-increasing greed of WotC.
I mean, you can play commander and not upgrading your list. You dont need to give wotc your money if you dont want to
@@vittoriosavian9964 I have been.
Maybe stop taking the "straight to modern" term as modern focused. Modern is an almost eternal setting and its just a way of saying "non standard legel"
This was coming sooner or later. Overly catering to the casuals of the game breaks my heart being a sole 75 card player. My largest frustration is the incompetence of WotC licensing issues and bringing these cool U.B. products, but for us digital players we will never get to enjoy them.
Commander has made the game worse in my opinion
What aspect do you think has been negativly impacted?
@@flaminmunchkin2435 **gestures broadly**
Them designing cards that scale with multiple players is OK. They are not doing that. They seem to design cards that are effective regardless of the number of players.
🥱 why upsetie the game is fun