I blame the media more than himself. Players can say whatever they want about themselves (Embiid said he’s the best player in the league 😂) but media narratives are what drive mass opinions.
The mainstream media have a big role in turning them into idiots. The media see leidiot as a cash cow so they keep on pushing narrative and excuses. In my opinion, they should have promoted the up and coming athletes to boost ratings/ viewership not this toxic lechoke.
It's simply hilarious how tubby players like Jokic and Doncic who barely rely on athleticism dominate in this era when other era's supposedly were 'worse' due to a supposed lack of athleticism.
Isn't it ironic? That's the main argument they use to discredit MJ, even though it's not true, but you have LBJ getting dominated by guys who really aren't athletic. Dirk in 2011, Jokic in recent years, that Golden State squad.
yeah this is the 3pt era. you're on crack and so is op. in the super athlete era dudes barely 6 ft and some below were banging rims like no tomorrow. that doesn't exist now. there are no spudd webbs and kevin johnsons. its all bombs away, step backs and half court shots. no athleticism required.
@@yezzir8929 I'm looking at athletics and pretty much every track record has been broken since then. Of course doping kind of muddies the waters, but i don't think there has been a clean 100m champ since the start of the Olympic in 1905.
True.., they invested so much money in LeBron, that they have to push the narrative out cause they would kot make the profits they expected, remember Nike's billboard "We are all witness" ? They did that cause new basketball fans that witness Jordan's last part of his glory were desperate to have their own version of greatness, no one was around, Kobe was just being accused with that legal issue so they could not use him, so they put all their eggs in one basket and chose LeBron..., but when they saw thay he was just a dissapointment, they had to push narratives cause his accomplishments were not enough..., meanwhile, the next best thing has been around for a couple of years, but they are doing their best to hide it cause is not what they call super athlete and is not american. But those who really knows basketball, knows that Jokic is the best we have seen since Jordan.
@@NostalgikOne I'd also add the Orlando Magic juggernaut superteam that beat the MVP's 66-win Cavs, but most Lebron fans weren't born yet when that happened, so that one gets conveniently ignored as well
Haters of one particular team/athlete and people who are just plain jealous will say anything to minimize the accomplishments of others - because their favorites have never achieved it, and probably never will. The hate or jealousy increases if the successful team/athlete repeats that success in consecutive years, etc. Just my observation from being a fan of many different sports.
If Bronny plays next year for the Nuggets or the Lakers, it'll be the first time in Sports history a Father, Son, and a grandson played on the court together.
They say Lakers lost because Davis injury, but Nuggets had 3 players playing injured Jokic, KCP and Murry, they just didn't want to miss important game.. 👍
I wouldn't say he had a really bad one lol. Definitely turned it over too much but he still dropped a 25-20-9 stat line. He was also fouled like CRAZY the entire game and wasn't given a single free throw lol
Jokic has done it the old fashioned way. Been with Denver almost a decade, started with 3 straight non-playoff seasons, then had several playoff disappointments (lost G7 at home, got swept, lost in all 3 rounds) before finally getting to the top. There's nothing to criticize with this guy.
He also stuck with Jamal Murray even though Murray was out for 2 full seasons due to injury and one where half of his team was injured for that whole season too. He won the right way.
was alive during the late 90s/2000s, and yes basketball now is hot garbage. Basketball? Where? its nonexistent in today's game, it's a bunch of pg/sgs chucking up 3s, curry ruined the game of basketball.....
Yeah. Before the series started, I was super hyped to watch clippers v mavs But then I actually had to watch James harden and luka carry, travel and palm the ball for 48 minutes and noped out. Disgusting basketball.
I'm 31 too and I've always preferred the older footage which includes the 2000's. Everything was just more competitive despite the pace being slower in the 90's and 00's
Tune in to Euroleague. They still play real basketball in Europe. If they get more viewership it will be able to retain talent too. All the best players now are Europeans anyway
This is true- Jokic dominates because of his size, superior skill & superior basketball IQ. He would dominate in any era. I fail to see how Jokic dominating correlates to players not* being more athletic today than in the 90's.
If he were Black and more so if he were an American, more people would sing praises about his pure fundamentals, including the paid shills that call him one of the worst MVP choices to ever win the trophy.
Sorry but making a promise to bring a championship to your home team after a 52 year drought on the brink of elimination being down 3-1 having the 2 best players combine 82 points in 1 game and then the best player score 41 points to force a game 7, LeBron made the greatest block and Kyrie hit one of the greatest shots against a 73-9 team. The nuggets championship no where near that
Im so glad this era is over ...maybe ill start watching again.. this lebron super team era literally drove away fans for the first time in 30+ years...
Yet if AD and lebron had mpj and Aaron Gordon they would of won the series aswell. Jokic with the same exact Stat line in a losing effort absolutely no one would be talking about him. Funny how having a far superior supporting cast makes things look.
@@G82Watts lol what superior supporting cast (no all-stars), if you switch joker and lebum, joker would do miracles with AD and the crew. and no jamal Murray is not an all-star! nor gordon nor mpj
He's a bit passive this year. He still is a great and willing passer, but the magic is somewhat missing. Plus jamal Murray and the shooters except mpj have been sub par this year. The defense kept them alive against the Lakers, but the timberwolves will be the favourites if the nuggets don't fire with all their cylinders.
@@MarkLaw13 We also know that if Jamal shot at his usual efficiency that he wouldn't need to hit those 2 clutch shots. Being good in the 4th quarter is important but being consistent in the first 3 is also important.
@@orangeprimate2633 Jamal is the one who shoots Lakers in the heart. Even when he averaged 32ppg on 50/40/90 last postseason against the team. People said it was all Jokic. When there was no Jamal, Jokic was being bounced in the first round. Jokic needs Jamal as much as Jamal needs him. Jamal is the guy taking the biggest of shots in the series.
Lebron reminds me of Dolph Lundgrens character in Rocky IV Ivan Drako. All the tech, all the drugs, and Rocky beat that man on sheer will and training in the cold with scraps. Sounds like Nikola to me.
@@MrSuckeragicasuals think that. Lebron and AD where the clear best players on the lakers. Bron has averaged 27.8 points, 8.8 assists and 6.8 rebounds, name even just one player in nba history that could’ve done it in his 21st season, I’ll wait.
@@lymphomasurvive dude, wilt was averaging 13pts in his last season. And he played 14 seasons compared to lebron’s 21. If he couldn’t average more than 13 pts the last season he played, there’s no reason to think that when he was even older he could’ve done better.
Destroys the "Super Athlete" era, because team sports never *has* been, and never *will* be about how athletic a player is. Skill and game smarts trumps raw athleticism every day of the week. Jokic is just another example of that... The fact that the American media has managed to sell their public the idea that you have to be athletically gifted to not only compete on the highest level, but absolutely dominate, is baffling to me to me as a European. Growing up playing sports for us was never about how fast a dude could run - it was about how technical & skilful he was. How athletic a guy was wasn't even so much as a thought to gauge how good a player was... It's sad because you think of how many skilled players we may have never got to see just because they didn't jump as high as the next guy...
And that's how it is across sports in general. IQ of the game trumps athleticism every time. For example, I watch boxing as well and you watch Floyd vs Canelo. Canela definitely had the physical advantage but Floyd was able to outclass him due to his boxing IQ.
It’s because that they misinterpret that being flashy and athletic = good while it’s proven it’s clearly not the case. We can see the decline in skillset and what would’ve been easy buckets in the 90s-00s being missed so much.
I hope that Jokic wins, not only because I am a Nuggets fan, but because it will destroy the "lack of help" narrative that the cult of clutch has been trying to paint in defense of queen James. It would also be an amazing poke in the eye to the media because I do believe most of the media roots against Jokic because of the color of his skin and they would not be able to deny him his flowers with wining a back to back especially with against a stacked West and against a historically great Boston team.
You are a victim. Your team are victims huh Most of the media roots for him because his skin color. Its the fans that root against him. Also thia boston team has 1 star, they arent historically great. 2008 celtics would destroy them. Again, you are being woke with your white victimization. You hypocrite. You listen to anti black right wingers i can tell . Oh nugget will never again win a title. You
@@kaybigg?? Bro what? What’s your point? Comment said people are mad Jokic and Luka are mvp level, and dude said that no one is saying that on media platforms. Stop trying to be an edge lord when you typed your comment on CZcams , a social media app itself
Fr, if Jokic wins this year championship, he better start getting his well deserves respect. These xenophobic that talk basketball hates the fact european plumbers run the league now.
this makes total sense, Jokic is winning against injured teams filled with tiktokers and 10-day contract players. you guys idolize that ring like it's some special achievement. Not when butler didn't had hero and Adebayo playing.
Finally a competent content creator, I've been saying this for over a decade! Basketball is a game of SKILL, NOT ATHLETICISM!! This is why MJ was indeed the GOAT, he had the perfect blend of supreme skill and freakish athleticism...
@issacforman5069 didn't lebron get all that rings by jumping ships and teamed up with Allstars after all stars? Jokic just won a championship with a squad that had 1 time all star and washed up in DeAndre jordan. Jokic would definitely threepeat if he joined luka and Kyrie which he wont
Well yes Pippen was an all-star in 1990 before not making the selection in 1991 when MJ won the chip. But his 1990 selection was only cause Bird was injured. The next season Pippen was right back to not making the selection.
Jokic is the most dominant offensive player since ever, even beating out Michael Jordan in player efficiency. He would be the best player ever if his defense was better.
AD had an argument for best player between both teams in this series. Media won't admit that though. But can't deny that this series pitted LeBron's IQ and system against Jokic's, and the Serbian proved his better. Also glad to see the league going back to building strong teams with IQ and depth. Superteam era is officially dead now that LeBron and KD are out of the playoffs.
Ad and lebron with mpj and Aaron Gordon in place of rui huichmira and terrain prince then the lakers win the series. Also keep in mind we are years past lebrons prime he is 39
@@G82Watts Jokic doesn't have a current All-Star or All-NBA teammate, yet you're going to take some of his best role players and join them with 2 existing All-Stars/All-NBA players (AD & LeBron) on the Lakers? And then LeBron will win, you say?
@@jordanjenkins1671 the nuggets could barely win against the lakers, they played good basketball but you media merchants & nugget fanboys don't say otherwise. Lakers kept the nuggets series competitive, and it would be a completely different story if the nuggets won every game by 15 or more points.
@@G82Wattsthe facts are LA led for 71% of the series, they looked like the better team majority of the series, but two Top 75 players couldn’t hold double-digit leads in 4/5 games and LeBron isn’t a closer…but instead, the excuse list comes out… ✅ not enough help ✅ past his prime ✅ bad coach ✅ replay center 😂 ✅ AD got hurt
If u watched the game and listened to the announcers u would know that the nuggets had the far superior supporting cast on offense and DEFENSE. lebron and AD had to do everything.
He played in the leastern conference his whole career and managed a bubble title and in season tournaments banner in the west. LeFraud, King of Stat Padding
LeBron wasn't even the best player on his Hand Picked team in this last playoff series and he went home in 5 against a Nuggets team that didn't even play all that Great, LOL.
Euro basketball applied the BEST lessons they can learn from the 1992 USA Olympic Dream Team and ran with it! Thirty years later, you see the results in players like Jokic! 🤣🤣🤣
All star doesnt mean being talented.. Means belonging to top 4 or 5 in your position.. Jamaal Murray is not top 4 and Denver doesn't have top 4 guys besides Jokic
I believe if Lebron never begged for men to call him the GOAT and he never left Cleveland, I really believe people would favorably view him and really consider him as one of the greatest of all time. Now he viewed as a man who needs a geography cure
As a Cleveland fan…I respect LeBron’s talent in his prime, but he’s cheated the game ever since he bailed to Miami and has taken the easiest path he could find since.
@@NostalgikOne It’s sad to watch. I do believe he could have easily gotten talent to Cleveland. Dan Gilbert would have paid the money. Instead he had too much entitlement and yes men around him to make a sound choice. Now he has to do more and it looks pathetic.
FACTS! When all is said and done, people will consider LeBron's 2016 ring to be the REAL one decades from now! If LeBron stayed in Ohio, he may only get one or two rings all-in-all BUT he will be infinitely more respected today...
Another Nuggets chip would be more impressive than Hakeem's given Jordan was playing baseball during the rockets run. Jokic ran right through the Scottie and Jordan of this era in the Lakers (Not that I believe they are, but those that do would have to concede that accomplishment for Nikola)
I think the trope about Jokic being "unathletic" is a bit overdone. Dude is 6'10" and runs up and down the court pretty much the whole game. Just because he doesn't look ripped like Bruce Lee or something doesn't mean he isn't strong and athletic as hell. Just like a lot of farmboys: big husky dudes look like they might be out of shape but they basically work all day and are strong AF with functional strength.
It's a joke. He has to be at an outstanding fitness level to compete against "athletes." In tennis, Djokovic and Medvedev don't "look" like typical athletes either. Same with Justine Henin. Also, guys who look ripped are not necessarily good at cardio and don't necessarily have endurance either.
@@dronesclubhighjinks Even Patrick Mahomes isn't exactly an Adonis as far as physique is concerned but he still gets the job done! Three Super Bowl Rings (and most likely still counting)... 🤣🤣🤣
I keep telling people... - on an individual level---skill, bball IQ, fundamentals and drive are more important than being more athletic, bigger, stronger, faster, etc. - on a team level---team chemistry is more important than just throwing some big name stars together. Some people just don't listen.
Jokic is an exquisite player - a brilliant playmaker, superb passer and an inspiring leader. Even his "bad games" are good. We need more athletes like him.
One correction, the 1991 champion Bulls only had 1 all-star in Jordan, and 1 other player who had played in 1 all-star game, that being Scottie Pippen who was an all-star in 1990 but not 1991.
This is going to be an exciting series. I want to see if ant can keep this up against Jokic. I'm not all timing jokic yet, but he is definitely 1 or 2 in today's game. I love the way they play over there. It's fitting that 2 teams who run actual plays are meeting up right now. Gonna be good for basketball. As always, great vid, my guy.
I remember when a prime Kobe got swept with two All Stars, a 6th man of the year and the greatest coach of all time but his fanboys said it didn't matter cause it wasn't in the Finals but all of a sudden it matters when it happens to a near 40 yr old in his 21st season?!?! 😂😂😂
He did indeed get swept, but was also the back to back champion at that point. Meanwhile, LeBron himself lost 4-2 to the same opponents in the same season, also with two All-Stars but with eight points in a Finals game...and he wasn't nearly 40 then either
@@owendavis2003 How wasn't he nearly 40 when he was 38 and 39 when he lost to Denver? Kobe was actually in his prime when he got swept with that team. LeBron wasn't in his prime last year or even this yr
Facts 💯 He replaced Bird in 1990 because of injury and didn’t make an AS team in 1991 when they won that 1st title…I appreciate people who know NBA history!
In 1991 MJ one upped what Olajuwon did in 1994 by winning the championship with no other current all star teammates but one that only had one previous all star selection. He was the scoring champion that season and Pippen was only a 1990 All Star at that point.
It’s mind boggling to me that the so-called “experts” posing as pretend journalists hate Nikola Jokic so much that it clouds their judgement in assessing his game. Their unwarranted hate is prohibiting them from not only doing their jobs (jobs that pay them millions of dollars) to the best of their ability, it’s robbing them from taking advantage of their front row seat in witnessing one of the most unique athletes in the history of major professional sports. Like you mentioned in this video, Skap, Jokic has revolutionized the center position. We are witnessing greatness on a level that has never seen before at the center position. He is truly a once in a generation talent, and I’m grateful that I get to watch this guy play. As fans of the game of basketball, we should all appreciate and celebrate his talent. He won’t be around forever, and once he’s gone, that’s it. We may never see another player like him again in our lifetime
As much as I love my Joker, you gotta give a lot of credit to his squad. It's honestly a crime that Murray hasn't made an All-Star Team yet, and Aaron Gordon & Michael Porter Jr. are worth their weight in gold when it comes to clutch plays.
Jokic IS athletic, and I would die on this hill. He has the most active motor than any center in the league, fast as hell in a straight line, strong enough to push around just about anyone, has the stamina of a (heh) horse, and he has the best hand-eye coordination possibly ever in the NBA. Yeah, his vertical isn't great, and he isn't very agile, but there are more facets of athleticism that we constantly fail to consider.
Denver is showing the league how the game is played. They're balanced and all in. Everyone plays defense and all are committed to the team concept. The NBA hasn't seen this in a while and it's definitely a nice change compared to the selfish showboating that is killing the league.
Jokic should be called NikoLA because of how he handles against LeBron's Lakers, similar to how Pascal Siakam handled against the Lakers and was called Pascalifornia. 😂😂😂
Keep this in mind about those Rockets title runs - Hakeem was the 1st(and currently ONLY) player to win back-to-back titles while being the ONLY All-Star those seasons.
A couple of years ago there was talk about the "Death" of the center position in the NBA yet Jokic has shown that a center can dominate the game even when Jokic isn't super athletic or physically imposing as Shaq was.
Also if Jokic can pull off a championship this year. He's definitely in the 15 hell you make a case for top 10. Cause he's been that damn good. But we'll have to wait and see
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Lebron's greatest trick was the ability to fool people into thinking he was the goat.
I blame the media more than himself. Players can say whatever they want about themselves (Embiid said he’s the best player in the league 😂) but media narratives are what drive mass opinions.
It wasn’t a trick, he just has a huge cheque book to pay for the narrative
@@user-sk4ny7lc4o Well, it's the same because Lebron is paying people in the media to carry out that narrative.
Didn't fool me lol
lebron’s charade… it’s a complete crap
Lebron is the only player in the NBA history who turned his fan base into idiots
Lebum's fanbase were probably idiots from the beginning to think he'll ever surpass Michael Jordan. He needs to worry about surpassing Tim Duncan. 😈🤣
Kobe fans were acting this same way around 2008-10.
🤣😂😂
Unfortunately you are right 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The mainstream media have a big role in turning them into idiots. The media see leidiot as a cash cow so they keep on pushing narrative and excuses. In my opinion, they should have promoted the up and coming athletes to boost ratings/ viewership not this toxic lechoke.
I'll take the hardworking Plumber Jokic over the Beyonce Diva James.
Joker is a horse type guy, not a plumber
Jokic the horse janitor
@@thefunguy5069 I guess you can say he whipped LeBalco.🤣
Definitely. Kobe too. I remember when Kobe quit on his team in a game 7. I can't imagine Jokic ever doing that.
@@sameenergy9414and lebum quit on the cavs 😂 came back because they had kyrie and then quit again😂
Taking one game from the defending champions...
*"That one right there made me the greatest player of all time."* - LeChoke
He let them win shows how great he is. Come on, man, no joke.
This has major "Chris Paul's huge 3 to cut down the lead to 42" vibes
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It's simply hilarious how tubby players like Jokic and Doncic who barely rely on athleticism dominate in this era when other era's supposedly were 'worse' due to a supposed lack of athleticism.
80s had the best athletes anyways, just look at athletics
Isn't it ironic? That's the main argument they use to discredit MJ, even though it's not true, but you have LBJ getting dominated by guys who really aren't athletic. Dirk in 2011, Jokic in recent years, that Golden State squad.
yeah this is the 3pt era. you're on crack and so is op. in the super athlete era dudes barely 6 ft and some below were banging rims like no tomorrow. that doesn't exist now. there are no spudd webbs and kevin johnsons. its all bombs away, step backs and half court shots. no athleticism required.
Curry is not that atletic either. it looks like sport is more skill base, like usual.
@@yezzir8929 I'm looking at athletics and pretty much every track record has been broken since then. Of course doping kind of muddies the waters, but i don't think there has been a clean 100m champ since the start of the Olympic in 1905.
We are watching a historically great player at their peak in real time and the media wont stop glazing lebron which is sad
It always miffs me how everyone says "wemby is the future"
He's gonna be good. I get it. But Nikola Jokic wears the crown until someone takes it
Mike Malone is a Pop disciple, and Jokic is his Tim Duncan. Low maintenance and makes his teammates better while dominating.
True.., they invested so much money in LeBron, that they have to push the narrative out cause they would kot make the profits they expected, remember Nike's billboard "We are all witness" ? They did that cause new basketball fans that witness Jordan's last part of his glory were desperate to have their own version of greatness, no one was around, Kobe was just being accused with that legal issue so they could not use him, so they put all their eggs in one basket and chose LeBron..., but when they saw thay he was just a dissapointment, they had to push narratives cause his accomplishments were not enough..., meanwhile, the next best thing has been around for a couple of years, but they are doing their best to hide it cause is not what they call super athlete and is not american.
But those who really knows basketball, knows that Jokic is the best we have seen since Jordan.
Jokic by the end of his career will be there with jordan
Gilbert can’t handle the fact that Jokic would dominate him.
He’s mad Jokic has more rings than him
Gilbert Arenas plays zero defense which is why he has that jersey number. Jokic would average 30 pts , 20 rebs, and 15 asts against No Skill Gil. 😂😂😂
Him and Rashad are delusional 😂
@@Chris-bw9bq Gilbum Arenas logic: 26pts, 12 rebs, and 9 assist on 58% shooting, #1 in PER = worst mvp in the last 40 years. 🤡🤡🤡🥴😂🤣😭😭🤣
Image what jokic would look like year 21 at 39 years old and the most playoff games ever
LeBron's cheerleaders will say that this Nuggets team is a super team because LeBron couldn't possibly lose to any team other than a super team.
Except 2011…they can’t argue that one, so they just ignore it.
The 2015-2016 Warriors were not a superteam they only became a superteam when KD joined. LeBron could barely beat them without KD
@@NostalgikOne I'd also add the Orlando Magic juggernaut superteam that beat the MVP's 66-win Cavs, but most Lebron fans weren't born yet when that happened, so that one gets conveniently ignored as well
@@yunopepper76 they were 1-1 without KD.
hahahaha,, they already saying Lebron lost to 4 future hall of famers...lol
I hate when people say Jokic’s ring last year had an easy path despite picking the suns and the lakers to beat them…
Haters of one particular team/athlete and people who are just plain jealous will say anything to minimize the accomplishments of others - because their favorites have never achieved it, and probably never will.
The hate or jealousy increases if the successful team/athlete repeats that success in consecutive years, etc.
Just my observation from being a fan of many different sports.
Haters just always gotta hate. Most of them are Lakers fans
That's what I found baffling.
The same shlubs who said it was an easy run, made the Nuggets underdogs in every series except Miami. Can't have it both ways
Stop caring so much about other peoples’ opinions
If they are Super Athletes, why they can't win a Single Ring, Without 2 Super Stars On The Roster.
Cant even do a threepeat
If Bronny plays next year for the Nuggets or the Lakers, it'll be the first time in Sports history a Father, Son, and a grandson played on the court together.
Jesus Christ 😂
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Jokic to Lebron: "WHO'S YOUR DADDY?"😂😂
lol I love this shit 😂
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lebum fans: jordan played against plumbers
2024 playoffs: lebum loses to a plumber named jokic
Joker? Isn’t a plumber tho
@@thefunguy5069 Neither were those other guys .
@@donaldcummings8407 of course not big dawg
@@thefunguy5069He does raise horses though... so Lebron lowkey out here losing to a farmer/rancher
Those plumbers paved the way for these new age soft clown players to not have to be plumbers
Shout out to Denver for playing team basketball, And that's coming from a long time Laker fan..👍
Also laker fan. They deserve to win over our entitled, frontrunner team. Even with the refs putting the fix in. They're just too damn good.
We all feel for you during this LeBronze era :(
They say Lakers lost because Davis injury, but Nuggets had 3 players playing injured Jokic, KCP and Murry, they just didn't want to miss important game.. 👍
Jokic had a really bad game 5 and yet he nearly gets another triple double. Jokic is a disciplined player who gets results
I wonder how much his injury is affecting his play
I wouldn't say he had a really bad one lol. Definitely turned it over too much but he still dropped a 25-20-9 stat line.
He was also fouled like CRAZY the entire game and wasn't given a single free throw lol
BRING BACK "IT'S A COMPLETE CRAP" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL Don't worry, it WILL return.
Darko + "IT'S GARBAGE!" make it happen skap
BRING BACK THE CRAP....BRING BACK THE CRAP...😂😂😂
I KNEW something was missing!
@@skap_attackwe need it SKAP 😂
Jokic has done it the old fashioned way. Been with Denver almost a decade, started with 3 straight non-playoff seasons, then had several playoff disappointments (lost G7 at home, got swept, lost in all 3 rounds) before finally getting to the top. There's nothing to criticize with this guy.
He also stuck with Jamal Murray even though Murray was out for 2 full seasons due to injury and one where half of his team was injured for that whole season too. He won the right way.
@@gambitacio The Fraud King would have traded Jamal Murray or requested a trade in that situation.
Luka and Joker destroyed the 80s-00s cant compete with these super athletes.
Bird stock has risen.
Hell Austin reeves
Agreed, but Larry Legend has never gone below number 2, though he's GOAT 1b
I’m 31. I never though I’d be more interested in watching blurry 50s-80s games than the high definition dumpster fire of today
was alive during the late 90s/2000s, and yes basketball now is hot garbage. Basketball? Where? its nonexistent in today's game, it's a bunch of pg/sgs chucking up 3s, curry ruined the game of basketball.....
Yeah. Before the series started, I was super hyped to watch clippers v mavs
But then I actually had to watch James harden and luka carry, travel and palm the ball for 48 minutes and noped out. Disgusting basketball.
I'm 31 too and I've always preferred the older footage which includes the 2000's. Everything was just more competitive despite the pace being slower in the 90's and 00's
Hear, hear.
Tune in to Euroleague. They still play real basketball in Europe. If they get more viewership it will be able to retain talent too. All the best players now are Europeans anyway
Plumbers rule the league yet again!
Joker?
A Serbian horse jockey averaged 28 pts, 16 rebs, and 9 asts on 59% shooting and 92% from the free throw line on Lebum. 🐎🐎🐎🤣🤣🤣
@@thefunguy5069 I’m being facetious.
@@projectaletheia8707 I know
Jokic actually makes his teammates better
I can laugh all day at lebum😂he never fails to amaze me😂
Lebum laughing to the bank
"Getting swept then gentlemens swept by a horse farmer in back to back years, that one made me the greatest player of all time."
- The Choken One
Jokic is being his most Jordanesque. Trying to once again lead role players to the chip
Lol Murray and porter are a big 3
Congrats on Jokic and the Nuggets for upsetting the In Season Tournament champs!!
Jokic beat Lebum, the In Season mvp. I guess he's the GOAT now. 🥴😂🤣
Jokic is is playing top shelf basketball with fundamentals and skill
This is true- Jokic dominates because of his size, superior skill & superior basketball IQ. He would dominate in any era. I fail to see how Jokic dominating correlates to players not* being more athletic today than in the 90's.
If he were Black and more so if he were an American, more people would sing praises about his pure fundamentals, including the paid shills that call him one of the worst MVP choices to ever win the trophy.
Nick Wrong: "Lakers in 6"
Jokic: "yo, don't bet against the fat boy"
"We will never see someone like Bron again." Oh how well that phrase aged cuz all his stats look like they'll get broken with no defense.
I dont think the nba can survive another lebron.
I'm glad jokic and wemby are humble.
Someone needs to tell them that's not a bad thing. The guy damn near killed competition in the game.
Yes, I love that everything morons use to discredit past generations is exactly what's going to happen to Lebron in the coming years
@@manz7860 We got the humble ones on pace to break all of his "records" easily.
@@perfectibilist I think it is dead.
It's Blue Collar Team Era Now. Jokic will get the credit for retiring LeJoke.
Nikolas 1 ring has more meaning than LeSuperTeams 4
Sorry but making a promise to bring a championship to your home team after a 52 year drought on the brink of elimination being down 3-1 having the 2 best players combine 82 points in 1 game and then the best player score 41 points to force a game 7, LeBron made the greatest block and Kyrie hit one of the greatest shots against a 73-9 team. The nuggets championship no where near that
Nikola is like if lebron never ran to daddy wade and stayed in cleveland through adversity.
Nikola actually makes his team mates better 🤷♂️
The Choking one just gets better team mates. Like kyrie or Ray Allen to bail him out.
@@thefunguy5069get off your knees lil man and get in the gym
@@thefunguy5069 Waaahh..
Im so glad this era is over ...maybe ill start watching again.. this lebron super team era literally drove away fans for the first time in 30+ years...
The games have been way better post All-Star. Still a lot of complaining but way more defense and less fouls.
You should honesty basketball is kinda in a good competitive place again finally not warriors vs cavs 600
Thank you for giving jokic his flowers while still playing. This channel is awesome
Man I love when you have the disdain cranked to 11. You can really hear it in your voice. Well done.
Nikola Jokic is the best player in the game
Wrong! He's the best player in the world
Yet if AD and lebron had mpj and Aaron Gordon they would of won the series aswell. Jokic with the same exact Stat line in a losing effort absolutely no one would be talking about him. Funny how having a far superior supporting cast makes things look.
@@OddJaxx900world?
@@G82Watts lol what superior supporting cast (no all-stars), if you switch joker and lebum, joker would do miracles with AD and the crew. and no jamal Murray is not an all-star! nor gordon nor mpj
@@Djoga100 You put Anthony Davis on Denver with Jokic they 4 peat. 😅🤣
Only criticism of jokic is the game five turnovers otherwise he’s sublime
The dude took some chances, sometimes that happens
He's a bit passive this year. He still is a great and willing passer, but the magic is somewhat missing. Plus jamal Murray and the shooters except mpj have been sub par this year. The defense kept them alive against the Lakers, but the timberwolves will be the favourites if the nuggets don't fire with all their cylinders.
He's still on cruise control
Skill > athleticism.
Clutch > stat padding.
Plumbers > pampered babies.
Nikola Jokic has taught LeBuminator on how to be a son and Jamal Murray taught LeBuminator on how to be Nikola's responsible son.
He doesn't give Jamal Murray credit.
We all know if there was no Jamal, that series isn't gonna be won.
@@MarkLaw13 We also know that if Jamal shot at his usual efficiency that he wouldn't need to hit those 2 clutch shots. Being good in the 4th quarter is important but being consistent in the first 3 is also important.
@@MarkLaw13true that. But Jokic averaged 28 16 10. Without him the nuggets are out
@@MarkLaw13murray underperformed of anything. Outside of late game heroics, he played below average for his numbers.
@@orangeprimate2633 Jamal is the one who shoots Lakers in the heart. Even when he averaged 32ppg on 50/40/90 last postseason against the team. People said it was all Jokic.
When there was no Jamal, Jokic was being bounced in the first round.
Jokic needs Jamal as much as Jamal needs him.
Jamal is the guy taking the biggest of shots in the series.
being a super athlete (lebron) doesn't make you a super player. and being a super player (joker) doesn't mean you have to be a super athlete.
Lebron reminds me of Dolph Lundgrens character in Rocky IV Ivan Drako. All the tech, all the drugs, and Rocky beat that man on sheer will and training in the cold with scraps. Sounds like Nikola to me.
Looks like AD doesn't have enough help.
help? LeFlop is the opposite of help, who else thinks the LAKERS WOULD BE BETTER WITH LEBUM OFF THE TEAM?
@@MrSuckeragicasuals think that. Lebron and AD where the clear best players on the lakers. Bron has averaged 27.8 points, 8.8 assists and 6.8 rebounds, name even just one player in nba history that could’ve done it in his 21st season, I’ll wait.
@@Robss_Wilt. Larry Brown tried to get him to play for the Nets when he was 50.
@@lymphomasurvive dude, wilt was averaging 13pts in his last season. And he played 14 seasons compared to lebron’s 21. If he couldn’t average more than 13 pts the last season he played, there’s no reason to think that when he was even older he could’ve done better.
@@Robss_ Injuries.
The “He was Hurt” Narrative Last Season Proves Lakers we’re Just No Match Bc No Hurt Leg and they only Win 1 Game
Destroys the "Super Athlete" era, because team sports never *has* been, and never *will* be about how athletic a player is.
Skill and game smarts trumps raw athleticism every day of the week.
Jokic is just another example of that...
The fact that the American media has managed to sell their public the idea that you have to be athletically gifted to not only compete on the highest level, but absolutely dominate, is baffling to me to me as a European.
Growing up playing sports for us was never about how fast a dude could run - it was about how technical & skilful he was.
How athletic a guy was wasn't even so much as a thought to gauge how good a player was...
It's sad because you think of how many skilled players we may have never got to see just because they didn't jump as high as the next guy...
And that's how it is across sports in general. IQ of the game trumps athleticism every time. For example, I watch boxing as well and you watch Floyd vs Canelo. Canela definitely had the physical advantage but Floyd was able to outclass him due to his boxing IQ.
The best example is Messi 😊
@@user-kz9td3wi7u Its funny because watching Messi in his prime isn't too unlike watching Jokic now. Both feel like magicians when they have the ball
It’s because that they misinterpret that being flashy and athletic = good while it’s proven it’s clearly not the case. We can see the decline in skillset and what would’ve been easy buckets in the 90s-00s being missed so much.
@@perfectibilistIQ will always trump in the critical moments when the game is on the line. And most Europeans are leagues ahead in fundamentals now.
I hope that Jokic wins, not only because I am a Nuggets fan, but because it will destroy the "lack of help" narrative that the cult of clutch has been trying to paint in defense of queen James. It would also be an amazing poke in the eye to the media because I do believe most of the media roots against Jokic because of the color of his skin and they would not be able to deny him his flowers with wining a back to back especially with against a stacked West and against a historically great Boston team.
You are a victim. Your team are victims huh
Most of the media roots for him because his skin color. Its the fans that root against him.
Also thia boston team has 1 star, they arent historically great. 2008 celtics would destroy them.
Again, you are being woke with your white victimization.
You hypocrite. You listen to anti black right wingers i can tell .
Oh nugget will never again win a title.
You
I’m beginning to think, Nikola Jokic will soon be seen as having a better career than LePalestine
Im confused isnt LeBron jewish ?
LeChina
@@FatalEther12Kyrie probably thinks so with his whacky beliefs.
Are you an Isreal shill and a LeFlop hater?
😂Can y’all go back to calling him Leblaco or Lebum instead y’all confusing some people with nicknames like Lechina, Lepastine.
The MVP Nikola got fouled constantly. He shot zero free throws in game 5. 😮
I love how lots of people get really mad at Jokic/Luka when they are the top MVPs and having an incredible season. I wonder why? LMAO
muh merica I guess, idk I'm not american
What? Everyone on social media is saying that the MVP should be either Luka or Jokic, nobody’s getting mad 💀
Racism as Perk wonderfully revealed. They're not american and not black at the same time.
@@Robss_ You get your talking points from social media?? Makes sense why the nba ratings are in the sewers
@@kaybigg?? Bro what? What’s your point? Comment said people are mad Jokic and Luka are mvp level, and dude said that no one is saying that on media platforms. Stop trying to be an edge lord when you typed your comment on CZcams , a social media app itself
Fr, if Jokic wins this year championship, he better start getting his well deserves respect. These xenophobic that talk basketball hates the fact european plumbers run the league now.
They idolize Wembanyama though 🤔
when the NBA is SHIT, the league needs PLUMBERS to fix it!
this makes total sense, Jokic is winning against injured teams filled with tiktokers and 10-day contract players. you guys idolize that ring like it's some special achievement. Not when butler didn't had hero and Adebayo playing.
You mean European horse jockeys! 🤣🤣🤣
Finally a competent content creator, I've been saying this for over a decade! Basketball is a game of SKILL, NOT ATHLETICISM!! This is why MJ was indeed the GOAT, he had the perfect blend of supreme skill and freakish athleticism...
Jokic has already passed LeBron. He has a good chance of passing Steph. Kobe, we will see.
He's already passed Kobe in my book. Kobe quit on his team in a game 7. I can't imagine Jokic ever doing something like that
Joker still needs 3 rings 3 fmvps and 1 more MVP to be tied with LeBron
@issacforman5069 didn't lebron get all that rings by jumping ships and teamed up with Allstars after all stars? Jokic just won a championship with a squad that had 1 time all star and washed up in DeAndre jordan. Jokic would definitely threepeat if he joined luka and Kyrie which he wont
@@GARIONN1 Jokic/Dirk/Rick Barry all single title runs more impressive than all of Lebron's combined
You’re wrong
Well yes Pippen was an all-star in 1990 before not making the selection in 1991 when MJ won the chip. But his 1990 selection was only cause Bird was injured. The next season Pippen was right back to not making the selection.
Stop with the facts, LeBron fans believe Pippen was a #1 overall pick and came into the league playing like an MVP 😂
And he was only in the Dream Team coz Nique, far superior athlete and player than Pip, was injured
Jokic is the most dominant offensive player since ever, even beating out Michael Jordan in player efficiency. He would be the best player ever if his defense was better.
If Jokic wins this title, he is surpassing flop king in all time players. He will be close to top 10.
AD had an argument for best player between both teams in this series. Media won't admit that though. But can't deny that this series pitted LeBron's IQ and system against Jokic's, and the Serbian proved his better. Also glad to see the league going back to building strong teams with IQ and depth. Superteam era is officially dead now that LeBron and KD are out of the playoffs.
Ad and lebron with mpj and Aaron Gordon in place of rui huichmira and terrain prince then the lakers win the series. Also keep in mind we are years past lebrons prime he is 39
@@G82Watts Jokic doesn't have a current All-Star or All-NBA teammate, yet you're going to take some of his best role players and join them with 2 existing All-Stars/All-NBA players (AD & LeBron) on the Lakers? And then LeBron will win, you say?
@@jordanjenkins1671 the nuggets could barely win against the lakers, they played good basketball but you media merchants & nugget fanboys don't say otherwise. Lakers kept the nuggets series competitive, and it would be a completely different story if the nuggets won every game by 15 or more points.
@@G82Wattsthe facts are LA led for 71% of the series, they looked like the better team majority of the series, but two Top 75 players couldn’t hold double-digit leads in 4/5 games and LeBron isn’t a closer…but instead, the excuse list comes out…
✅ not enough help
✅ past his prime
✅ bad coach
✅ replay center 😂
✅ AD got hurt
If u watched the game and listened to the announcers u would know that the nuggets had the far superior supporting cast on offense and DEFENSE. lebron and AD had to do everything.
If Jokic wins 3 more FMVPs and another MVP, we gonna have to stop worrying about Bron in the GOAT debate and start talking about Jokic and MJ.
He played in the leastern conference his whole career and managed a bubble title and in season tournaments banner in the west. LeFraud, King of Stat Padding
But LeChoke will NEVER own the West the way he did the East! 🤣🤣🤣
Kat getting 50 in the ASG is nothing, but the T-wolves are stacked. If the nuggests win, than this could be the hardest chip ever.
Commissioner pxnishead is breathing a sign of relief that you're applying that pressure to LeBron instead of him.
LeBron wasn't even the best player on his Hand Picked team in this last playoff series and he went home in 5 against a Nuggets team that didn't even play all that Great, LOL.
Jokic is a great athlete and i can’t stand when media pretends he isn’t
They can't stand the fact that he treats it like a job.
It’s because he’s white.
I hope Jokic get the back to back championship. Great work as always Skap 💪🏾
People who keep saying 80’s-90’s players “they cannot compete with today’s super athletes” should watch this 😂
Euro basketball applied the BEST lessons they can learn from the 1992 USA Olympic Dream Team and ran with it! Thirty years later, you see the results in players like Jokic! 🤣🤣🤣
Love your content. But let’s be real, Jamal Murray has all-star talent, only reason he wasn’t selected is because his position is stacked.
All star doesnt mean being talented.. Means belonging to top 4 or 5 in your position.. Jamaal Murray is not top 4 and Denver doesn't have top 4 guys besides Jokic
And people still think that Larry Bird wouldnt dominate today. Even when a Larry Bird 2.0 dominates today aka Jokic.
Larry Bird himself is a Jokic fan as well!
@@mrconfusion87 doesnt surprise me and rightly so.
Man Skap, your killing it man! Great work as always.
I believe if Lebron never begged for men to call him the GOAT and he never left Cleveland, I really believe people would favorably view him and really consider him as one of the greatest of all time. Now he viewed as a man who needs a geography cure
As a Cleveland fan…I respect LeBron’s talent in his prime, but he’s cheated the game ever since he bailed to Miami and has taken the easiest path he could find since.
@@NostalgikOne It’s sad to watch. I do believe he could have easily gotten talent to Cleveland. Dan Gilbert would have paid the money. Instead he had too much entitlement and yes men around him to make a sound choice. Now he has to do more and it looks pathetic.
FACTS! When all is said and done, people will consider LeBron's 2016 ring to be the REAL one decades from now! If LeBron stayed in Ohio, he may only get one or two rings all-in-all BUT he will be infinitely more respected today...
@mrconfusion87 It gets even worse when we found out Lebron tried to get Spo fired because he didn’t like him. He’s gotta go
Jokic really ended LeBrons career😂😂😂😂😂
Finally someone who points out the fact that this team is very close to the Hakeem's lead team of the mid 90s!!!
Great video thanks
Another Nuggets chip would be more impressive than Hakeem's given Jordan was playing baseball during the rockets run. Jokic ran right through the Scottie and Jordan of this era in the Lakers (Not that I believe they are, but those that do would have to concede that accomplishment for Nikola)
I think the trope about Jokic being "unathletic" is a bit overdone. Dude is 6'10" and runs up and down the court pretty much the whole game. Just because he doesn't look ripped like Bruce Lee or something doesn't mean he isn't strong and athletic as hell. Just like a lot of farmboys: big husky dudes look like they might be out of shape but they basically work all day and are strong AF with functional strength.
It's a joke. He has to be at an outstanding fitness level to compete against "athletes." In tennis, Djokovic and Medvedev don't "look" like typical athletes either. Same with Justine Henin.
Also, guys who look ripped are not necessarily good at cardio and don't necessarily have endurance either.
@@dronesclubhighjinks Even Patrick Mahomes isn't exactly an Adonis as far as physique is concerned but he still gets the job done! Three Super Bowl Rings (and most likely still counting)... 🤣🤣🤣
@@mrconfusion87 yes, he is another great example!
Notice how the last 3 champs weren’t super teams but great TEAMS built around one transcendent, unselfish star: Giannis, Steph and Jokic.
I keep telling people...
- on an individual level---skill, bball IQ, fundamentals and drive are more important than being more athletic, bigger, stronger, faster, etc.
- on a team level---team chemistry is more important than just throwing some big name stars together.
Some people just don't listen.
King Jokic 👑 dethroned Queen James 👸
2:04 These stats WITHOUT many FT'S, mind you.
Jokic is an exquisite player - a brilliant playmaker, superb passer and an inspiring leader. Even his "bad games" are good.
We need more athletes like him.
Awesome vids as always 🎉
Go ahead Skap break em off somethin!!
😉🙏
BRONNY JAMES JR., YOU ARE A DETROIT PISTON
The kids a lemon. He shouldn’t be anywhere near the nba.
Wizards would like to trade for that pick
I actually heard someone on ESPN radio say whoever has the first pick should take Bronny so LeBron will join them. 😂😂
No disrespect but Bronny is Los Angeles D - Fender at best. 😅😂
One correction, the 1991 champion Bulls only had 1 all-star in Jordan, and 1 other player who had played in 1 all-star game, that being Scottie Pippen who was an all-star in 1990 but not 1991.
This is going to be an exciting series. I want to see if ant can keep this up against Jokic. I'm not all timing jokic yet, but he is definitely 1 or 2 in today's game. I love the way they play over there. It's fitting that 2 teams who run actual plays are meeting up right now. Gonna be good for basketball.
As always, great vid, my guy.
I remember when a prime Kobe got swept with two All Stars, a 6th man of the year and the greatest coach of all time but his fanboys said it didn't matter cause it wasn't in the Finals but all of a sudden it matters when it happens to a near 40 yr old in his 21st season?!?! 😂😂😂
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He did indeed get swept, but was also the back to back champion at that point. Meanwhile, LeBron himself lost 4-2 to the same opponents in the same season, also with two All-Stars but with eight points in a Finals game...and he wasn't nearly 40 then either
@@owendavis2003 How wasn't he nearly 40 when he was 38 and 39 when he lost to Denver?
Kobe was actually in his prime when he got swept with that team. LeBron wasn't in his prime last year or even this yr
@@stonecold316339as in, he wasn't nearly 40 when he lost to the Mavs in 2011 (who swept the Lakers, I assume that's the series you mean?)
@@owendavis2003 are we talking about the same team that swept Kobe in his prime?
1991 Bulls won the title with only Jordan making the All Star game. Pippen didn't make it in 1991, and was only an injury replacement in 1990.
Facts 💯
He replaced Bird in 1990 because of injury and didn’t make an AS team in 1991 when they won that 1st title…I appreciate people who know NBA history!
In 1991 MJ one upped what Olajuwon did in 1994 by winning the championship with no other current all star teammates but one that only had one previous all star selection. He was the scoring champion that season and Pippen was only a 1990 All Star at that point.
If Joker wins this Ring this year. I tink its up there as one of the greatest championship runs. No BS
It’s mind boggling to me that the so-called “experts” posing as pretend journalists hate Nikola Jokic so much that it clouds their judgement in assessing his game. Their unwarranted hate is prohibiting them from not only doing their jobs (jobs that pay them millions of dollars) to the best of their ability, it’s robbing them from taking advantage of their front row seat in witnessing one of the most unique athletes in the history of major professional sports. Like you mentioned in this video, Skap, Jokic has revolutionized the center position. We are witnessing greatness on a level that has never seen before at the center position. He is truly a once in a generation talent, and I’m grateful that I get to watch this guy play. As fans of the game of basketball, we should all appreciate and celebrate his talent. He won’t be around forever, and once he’s gone, that’s it. We may never see another player like him again in our lifetime
The one year Otis Thorpe was an All-Star, Hakeem missed 12 games due to injury, and the Rockets went 2-10 without him.
As much as I love my Joker, you gotta give a lot of credit to his squad. It's honestly a crime that Murray hasn't made an All-Star Team yet, and Aaron Gordon & Michael Porter Jr. are worth their weight in gold when it comes to clutch plays.
It is a symbiotic relationship!
Jokic IS athletic, and I would die on this hill. He has the most active motor than any center in the league, fast as hell in a straight line, strong enough to push around just about anyone, has the stamina of a (heh) horse, and he has the best hand-eye coordination possibly ever in the NBA. Yeah, his vertical isn't great, and he isn't very agile, but there are more facets of athleticism that we constantly fail to consider.
Denver is showing the league how the game is played. They're balanced and all in. Everyone plays defense and all are committed to the team concept. The NBA hasn't seen this in a while and it's definitely a nice change compared to the selfish showboating that is killing the league.
A Jokic vs Giannis showdown in the NBA Finals would be nice - and GREAT for basketball! Hopefully it happens within the next five years...
This Jokic is like Hakeem and Dirk. He don't need a stars to play with me but just the right role players. Eat that lebron!
Fact: If Jokic wins this Championship, he will surpass LeBron on the All Time list.
Jokić book title"how i love horses and low key saved NBA"
Jokic should be called NikoLA because of how he handles against LeBron's Lakers, similar to how Pascal Siakam handled against the Lakers and was called Pascalifornia. 😂😂😂
If Jokic didn’t play for the nuggets, they’d be a 30 win team at best
Love me some Jokic appreciation video!!!
Joker is the ultimate nba player💪 He dominates the game 👏👏👏
Misread the title… thought I saw “super DIVA” and clicked it. 😂😂😂 we can only be so lucky….
Keep this in mind about those Rockets title runs - Hakeem was the 1st(and currently ONLY) player to win back-to-back titles while being the ONLY All-Star those seasons.
A couple of years ago there was talk about the "Death" of the center position in the NBA yet Jokic has shown that a center can dominate the game even when Jokic isn't super athletic or physically imposing as Shaq was.
Jokic made me interested in basketball again. Love skillful fundamentals.
Also if Jokic can pull off a championship this year.
He's definitely in the 15 hell you make a case for top 10. Cause he's been that damn good.
But we'll have to wait and see