Improved 2024 Audi Q4 E-tron revealed with more power & range
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Had the Model Y. Its aggressive unadjustable regen launched me into a snowy ditch full of boulders.
Now have the Q4 e-tron with Quattro. Got it for the same price as MY. WORLD of difference. It safe, there’s buttons, luxurious, Sonos speakers, a damn sunroof 😂, not scared the steering wheel will come off etc.
Audi has been an auto maker for a while. Tesla? Should’ve asked myself that to begin with
It makes no sense to want to sit inside a cheap, dull cabin produced by cost accountants like Tesla when you can sit inside an Audi
I love audi But the q4 is so overpriced and feels so cheap inside.
@@plastiquemaraj8839 Yes there are some hard materials but the solidness of everything is the key.
I hope you’re being sarcastic😂😂
@@plastiquemaraj8839It looks better inside than any other EV
@@Dr.WhetFarts it really doesn’t. But sure
We leased a Q4 today. My wife has a some permanent neck issues that make her more sensitive to road feel than the average bear. The Tesla Y was a complete non-starter. The Hyundai head rest did not work well enough for her to do a test drive. VW ID 4 was a solid no. Volvo was a yes. The 2024 Q4 and 2022 Etron were a yeeesssss. We went with the Q4 for a number of reasons. Suspension. Seat design. Seat materials. These things all mattered. It doesn't matter how great the battery etc. are if I can't get her to buy it.
That is just your opinion, but you really don’t know what you’re talking about. This is a high-end car for a reasonable price and all the features are second to none
What it has that the Model Y and Ioniq 5 don't is traditional styling and traditional luxury. It will appeal to a segment of the market that those other cars don't appeal to.
& Suspension 😂
EV's that make noise when driving are mandatory in Europe. It's a pedestrian safety measure. If you can hear it coming you are less likely to walk out in front of it when crossing the road.
IF they hear it, the pedestrians don't even hear buses, trams or trains as they keep walking into them... It could at least sound like a "normal" car.
I've got to say, Sam, that I don't follow some of your comparisons between vehicles. A Tesla Model 3 or Y is not as high-end of a car as an Audi, so you'd expect there to be a price difference between them. You wouldn't compare two ICE vehicles based upon their range as the most important criteria. Tesla's engineering and their ability to quickly drive down costs of EVs is nothing short of amazing, but that doesn't mean buyers don't want more than their vehicles offer.
For people interested in long-distance driving with their EV, the supercharger network is what's most compelling about a Tesla. Hassle-free compared to the third-party charging companies.
Sam, you can't compare Q4 etron to bmw iX, it's more comparable to BMW iX1
No it is more comparable to the iX3
Nah the Q6 E-Tron is comparable to the IX3, the Q4 E-Tron is comparable to the IX1.
Not everyone likes Teslas. Audi has a very loyal customer base, and this will sell well in Europe.
I won't pay over 50k € for a car with rear drum brakes. And I say this as an Audi A5 owner which was genuinely interested in the etron Q4 until I saw reviews of the first version showcasing that and other problems.
@@Buran01 Lots of EVs have rear drum brakes deliberately as they are better suited to the car. The brakes do not get much use due to the regen and discs would corrode and seize, seems wrong ,but there is a reason.
@@johndoyle4723 That seems right for a Dacia, but at some price tags things that won't cut. The thing is that everyone knowns that the Golf 8 had massive quality cuts (in things like hard plastic, bad seats, tactile haptic buttons instead of mechanical ones... ) despite a rise in price, and the Q4 is built in the same platform as the ID3/ID4 which share similar cost cuts.
Agreed Tesla build quality is a nightmare
This video is a bit out of date already in the sense that (in Germany at least) you often find top speced Q4 etron at the same price (or lower!) Than à MY LR. We're talking second hand, ex company cars. There's quite a bit of those now.
I might still go MY but a lot of them don't have USS anymore which is a big no no. Especially before a MY refresh. Don't want to be stuck with the worst MY generation.
So I might actually go for one of these top Q4 40.
The battery protection is simply a function within the software that automatically will limit the charging to 80% which is the recommendation for all pre lfp battery EV’s to extend battery life unless the owner switches it off.
This is only a function which can be switched off as charging to 100% will on occasion be required. It is not a detrimental function it is merely an extra function available on VWG MEB platform cars.
Q4 is not a conpetitor of the iX. For this you would consider the Q8 e-tron.
All EVs today should have LFP batteries that you can charge to 100% without degradation and haul significantly less weight around compared to lithium ion where you're only supposed to charge to 80-90%.
You'll get a bit less range, but 90% of the people will still have plenty of range.
You must have failed easy maths at school. LFP batteries are less energy dense by a significant margin compared to Li NCA or Li NMC (38-47%). Energy non availability in Li NCA and Li NMC batteries is 90/10 or 80/10 depending on the manufacturers recommendations. Therefore the LFP batteries can NEVER save battery mass. Energy availability wrt battery mass, range and charge time is ALWAYS an issue with BEV and the main reason why ppl who move large amounts of goods/passengers or travel long distances will never go EV until its as good as diesel.
The reason you need to charge LFP to 100% is that otherwise the BMS has a hard time to calculate the real energy stored, due to lower cell voltage.If you do not charge to 100% regularl, you could run empty at 10% for example. You will see about the same battery degradation as NMC … lets wait for the real LFP data, degradation will be just a little better than NMC, but not by much. Why, calendar aging is the main degradation part … so yes it can handle more charges before charge degradation kicks in, but int the end there is not much difference.
In Denmark it comes with the Sonos audio without paying a premium, and that is a big difference from the other EV’s.
10 speakers and a subwoofer
Nearly bought one in 2021 in UK. Problem was they were quoting 6 months delivery and it kept moving back and back so cancelled. Nice car but it’s a bit bland and still expensive.
You should be comparing the regular Audi E-tron (or Audi Q8 E-Tron) for closest comparable sizes to the Model Y.
Hi, I have seen loads of videos about q4 & most people speak very high about the audi q4, and these models 45 & 55 are most improved. Have you seen how much you people have lost in deprecation of those cars you recommended, I feel you have something against Audi. You are very informative & and I felt you weren't very neutral. Audi all the way, never been disappointed from audi cars 5th Audi owned from new, The best car manufacturer.
By the way, adaptive cruises countrol is standard. I'm not sure if it is the same in the US.
I have nothing against your video & respect your views. KEEP IT UP. THANK YOU 😊
it is std in US with thr newer models from 2024. the chip shortage had a role to play in this feature being absent in many of earlier Audi models , including the ICE cars.
I'd like to know where you got the details from of what packages Audi will offer in Australia, even the dealers don't know yet, almost certainly my next car.
It's an Audi, what did we expect? :)
Audi is a luxury car brand so you expect them to be expensive. Their ICE cars are more expensive than other ICE cars. I can’t afford one, but if people want it and can afford it then go for it. I would rather people drove EVs than ICE cars.
Ordered on for delivery next year. (After much research into other EV’s)
Great review. I own the 2021 etron and my Audi dealer called me to make an offer to buy my etron. I wondered why they want to buy my car. Probably to get me to buy the new q4 etron. That’s not going to happen. In short, I love my etron. There are a few things I don’t like, but I’m satisfied. I purchased used also.
Improved yes but still disappointing relative to the value you get from Tesla. Slow charging, slightly less range and way less acceleration. Just goes to show how far out in front Tesla really is
Latest research suggest charging only from 10-36% to get maximum battery life (about 18 years).
This or the BMW ix3?
Optimized thermal management on the motor should mean less heat energy is produced in the motor for the same amount of electricity fed to it, which should kick back to range improvements
Only sound I wanna hear when I’m drivin my 2040 ev is Godsmack CHECKMATE CHECKMATE
Audi etron 2019 you can get for under $40,000 have over $10,000.27,000 miles on it with the prestige package US
I looked at this car a year ago when it first came to the states. I was all excited until I saw it in person and drove it.
This car is Unfinished - look under the bonnet. There is no storage its just a mess of wires and hvac tubes lines (@6:00 same shite). And they cheaped out and didn't even install a pair of $30 struts to hold up the bonnet. Its a prop rod. WTH?
No Qi wireless charging, still has buttons ALL OVER for various things. I mean all of the audio playing/tuning is on the screen but to turn the volume up you have to reach across the shifter to the center console to turn it up. Really?
As to power its slow. You have to hit a "overboost" mode to tap into the full power and it only lasts 30 seconds.
My 2016 BMW i3 Rex is 5X better and its based on 12YO technology.
For Audi - HUGE Skip. Just no...
Looks ID.4 system and batt with new clothes, w/350KW , you can get 80% in 28min. and a lot of new trim. They have to improve ion weight efficiencies. The motors got a significant boost, who makes to the front motor (Magna) ? Would someone knows ? Kodos on range.
Its identical to id4 and skoda, but get used to that , as all 14 Stellantis brands will be identical too
@@jamesnicholl8016 woohoo .. innovation 😕
You mentioned the Q4 range improved to 349 miles per charge. You also mentioned that Audi limits the charging to 80%. Does that mean you get 349 miles at 80% SOC? Thank you
I’d be worried that it’s the VW EV stable which has various issues such as range and charging.
So crazily inefficient compared to any Tesla, why use twice the electricity & twice the charging time?
The French meaning of etron is turd. Well named.
I love the way the car looks and the new upgrades are great. WHY is there such a huge difference in charging speed between the lower model and the rest? This makes no sense. The charging speed should be 175kw across all versions.
They're trying to justify the price difference. Marketing guys at work...but it doesn't really matter because the 10-80% charging time is actually identical thanks to a flater profile on the 135kW version...again just marketing tricks.
A larger battery can be charged quicker. Just physics (or chemistry?)…
Only the AWD versions got new battery chemistry and updated controlllers. Same thing across all cars built on the MEB platform.
Hyundai is supposed to buy back my Ioniq 5 and I’m searching for what to get as a replacement. Q4 etron is compelling as it’s similar in some ways but with potentially better reliability and dealership experience. At least in the US Hyundai dealers are… mostly garbage.
I spoke to an Audi E tron specialist and he said range will begin at $100k in Australia
There are two Q4 models. The one car wow video was the one with the coupe style roof and smaller boot. The standard one is better looking and has a larger boot.
Afternoon mate
Being an EX bmw mechanic of 20+ yrs I wouldn’t believe the hype, they use smoke and mirrors and build cars the average guy would struggle to repair, built in obsolescence! 😮
How is the BMW ix3 in terms of reliability?
It’s just a re badged MGzx but double the price 😮
Charges in 20 minutes on a 350 electrify America charger and I do 60 miles a day and I only charge up to 90% as it will keep going at 1:44 then 87% it starts to drop and slow down that is a 2019
I wouldn't buy an EV with battery that has restricted charging. It's a half ready product.
If 80% is new 100% Audi needs 25% bigger battery 😅
I’ve been several times in a Tesla and I feel inside like everything is a toy, it looks like it was designed by wish or Temu 😉
@The Electric Viking, have you even driven this car to say "absolutely not" in your recommendation?
80% battery protect feature was already on the old model! All to does is reset to max 80% charge if you opt to push it to 100% (after that charging cycle). You can turn it off in the car settings if you don't like it.
No, this is NOT correct
Good review your paying for the name which is Vw
How fast their software department and platform department copy from SAIC.
Sam nice Review, I am twitching between Q4etron and Volvo XC40 I was a little concerned about the 80% charge restriction there was something similar on the Volvo at 90% and when the charge is at 10% the Volvo max output is 40 mph! Interesting that the 80% restriction can be turned off. I am sorry Tesla really?!! (not giving Elon Musk one dollar!) Not feeling the Ionic 5 strange looks? like it wants too be stealth car with all those strange angles! Audi and Volvo just look far better 🙂
A review without having tested the NEW car....serious?
And there are a few missunderstanding here.
After 20 months of waiting my new “Q4 etron 45 quattro” should arrive next week. I’m wondering if I will get the newly improved 2024 version or the “old” version written in the order almost 2 years ago.
Nobody seems to know at Audi
go for the new q 4 55 2024 etron. its quatrro that comes with same range as q4 45.
Audi blows. I own an A7. Nothing but issues. My MX I’ve owned since 2016 is mind numbingly good. No a single issue in nearly 8 years. I have never owned a car this long and my wife still loves it!
Shows how little can go wrong and break down or need replacement on an EV.
@@gregp.7148 bingo. Before owning this MX I never expected to own it this long and certainly thought it was going to be expensive to fix. I thought, well… if I can afford to have a BMW worked on by the dealership a Tesla should be on par with maintenance. Boy was I wrong. I will always own a tesla and when my boys are old enough they I will be putting them in the safest cars in the world. Protect my investment, my family.
I’ve owned a Q5 for ten years, not a single issue in all that time…
needs free autopilot like Tesla otherwise stone knives and bear skins
What is free?
why do you think the IX1 is better?
Tesla model y is an ugly car ;-)
@@harmony3138 yes and poor body fittings as well
It's so ugly! Awful from every angle 😂
Comparable to model Y long range in price??? Really? On what planet?
AUDI WORTH THE PRICE ALL THE WAY. YOU GET GOT QUALITY WELL BUILD CAR FOR YOU MONEY. TESLA DO NOT WORTH IT FOR THE MONEY.
it’s just so expensive, makes a Tesla Model Y look like a bargain
Why all these legacy autos EVs only remind me a BlackBerry ?
No ioniq 5 or EV6 can charge at 350kw, 240 is the max. But they are very good due to the charging curve. Which Tesla sucks at. In any case this Audi is far over my price range and for most of the normal people.
There are lots of people reporting real world charge times 10 to 80% in under 20 minutes. But believe what you want.
EV's have been around longer than gas powered ICE vehicles. Whats changed? Not much really. Battery, electric motors, wheel at each corner and one to steer the vehicle.
Comparing Q4 and iX is apples and pears, right?
Yes. More like the IX1
Looks like a BYD atto 3 ? Probably 80% Chinese 😊
This guy almost always hates VW Group cars, likes Tesla and loves BYD. I don’t know for what reason but this is not nice.
There is far to little space in the trunk compared to Model Y.
But it has suspension not the shoddy setup of the Y 😂
Before, I owned an Audi and a Mercedes. Now, I own a Tesla. Now I think only idiots want to buy an Audi or a Mercedes.
Steel underpowered, 0 to 60 times still too slow? Interior doesn't have vented seats or massage seats for a luxury car need those items. Needs faster charging rate
The so-called big three European premium car makers really needs to rethink their strategy and forget about the baggage that came with petrol cars. Look, they competing with electric car makers now, then please compete, don’t bring out specs and prices that compared to Old petrol cars, I mean would you compare an iPhone With a Nokia? These are different products in different eras. Their so-called premium brand is tarnished, as a 30 year European car buyer, I’m losing my patience, and I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one. It’s only a matter of a few years until I (and many buyers I’m sure ) need to change to an EV, and if by that time they don’t wake up? I’m buying a Tesla or BYD.
Comparable car to bmw ix? I don’t think so. IX is far above
I have had the Q4 for a year and 25K miles. SUV shape not sportback. I am looking at replacing next year. It has outperformed its WLTP specs and from a ride and driving perspective is a great car. Cold weather charging is useless and the Audi software crashes on a regular basis so I won’t be buying Audi next year. The model Y is attractive but the ride is not good enough and the boot a big compromise. So not getting that either
"the boot a big compromise." How is the TMY boot a problem?
@@southparklion it’s a great size but a smaller size and better shape makes the space more useable. A squarer shape is necessary for our purposes. I have two large dogs (plus wheelchair) to transport. The Y is a great car, but unfortunately there are better (albeit not as efficient) cars for my needs.
@@andrewlarner6190 what RU buying
@@southparklion not decided yet. I like the look of the EV5 best, looks really good, the next generation of ID4 / Enyaq with battery preconditioning also on my list, particularly the L&K version. I have a reservation on an EV9 and a Ford Explorer, hoping to drive them both in November.
6.7 seconds is slow. All Tesla vehicles go faster than that.
Lots of people don't care about super fast acceleration. It's a feature they never use.
@dansanger5340 it's good to have a decent speed so you don't have to buy the more powerful model. That's in the miata territory.
Who cares?
The only decent EVs from the VW group are from Porsche (the Taycan and the upcoming Macan) and from Skoda (the Eniaq). Nothing else. All the rest is either too expensive in its segment, or crap... or both.
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I cant get over that etron means trud in English... check it out for yourself
Cheers Sam I agree
Thanks, but why no one talking about level 2 charger 22kw ?
249 volt 100 amp max dryer circuit note …. Can’t use dryer whe Chargin ev
Until they get NACS it’s a no Bueno…
Sure.. Then why is Tesla using the European CCS Combo 2 connector in Europe instead of trying to push NACS?
Not sure, perhaps Europe has its own issues…
@@jpmackin yes Europe has 230 Volts instead of 110 V. So why bother with NACS? It offers no superior properties in the developed world...
The interior is waaaay too complicated…yikes.
For the price it’s pretty crap
They suck l have a 2022 and don’t have a long enough range @ 200 miles @ 80 percent 🤬
Not impressed. Its not just about the car. Its about the whole process from buying to servicing, to upgrading if desired. As a whole this is just a bad buy when there is a clear alternative that is just better. Sorry not sorry.
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@@gooldii1 LoL
Range range range. We're still at peak range with EV's. There seems to be little to no progress and the years are ticking. To top it off there's also peak battery and no alternative sources to find production materials. This may very well be the downfall of the EV - yet again. William Morrison, who developed the very first EV back in in 1890-91, must be smirking in his grave. EV's have come and gone for well over 100 years now, we always return to fossil fuel.
I don't see Audi as a luxury brand, I had a A3 and it was basic to say the least and no better than a cheaper ford
LOL, an A3 is not a good representation of the brand.
Sam, don‘t compare cars just on paper - that is useless
I still don’t know why Audi exists in VWs portfolio. Low end/mainstream= VW. High end = Porsche. Where does Audi sit? They’re literally for VW customers who aren’t smart buyers. There isn’t a car they make that beats or equals their competition. Would you buy a gussied up Audi over a BMW or Benz that doesn’t come from a VW Tiguan. At least u don’t get a cheap platform upsold by $10k+. They should be more compared to Acura and Infiniti and Volvo.
Tesla doesn’t even have blended brake pedal. Cheap junk
This is what’s wrong with Tesla competitors. They charge a lot more for nothing and just relying on their name. They got a long way to catch up to Tesla.
It is a joke to compare the inside of a Tesla with the inside of my Mercedes. I would not have that Tesla cabin in my garden shed . Cheap and nasty
Yep, but I would prefer to have that luxury seat also move. YMMV
I used to think that too, but while Tesla used to be years ahead of the competition, they just gave that away. Its taken way too much time and they are still stuck with just 4 models. Just 4 models without much evolution. European car makers already lost that competition, but now, a few years later, the classic German brands are just making better cars, nicer looks, better interior, more refined driving and with similar tech as a Tesla. Tesla will not survive if they can only compete by lowering prices. They have to come up with something new quickly. Volkswagen, the company that is supposed to be in a real crisis, is actually fixing the problems they had (mostly software) and the press that was so negative about every new MEB model is now praising these upgraded models. Volkswagen already knows how to build cars. If they also get grip on the software part it will be very difficult for Tesla to compete, at least in Europe.
Phew …automatic overtaking & lane change ability !! Because all the motorways / freeways are clogged by cars with owners that don’t know how to overtake 🙄.
Yet another electric 2030 solution hunting for a problem 🤣🤣🤣
have you ever heard of get to the point and stop waffling
Audi is a cheater Company!😊
True
I don't know if their product holds up good or not
@@icosthop9998 their Product?
I am German, i can asure you, its Crap!
@@gooldii1 OK L😂L
@@icosthop9998 yes, Lol!
@@icosthop9998 yes, Lol
I am not a fan of Audi. The irony is they are developing new ICE engines by Skoda.
I own a Q3 and SQ5 and a 3P. Never will I buy an Audi again. Parts from VAG are dear as poison and you need a good Euro servicer. The Q series handle well however the front end will need to be replaced one day. Eg control arms , ball joints and sway bays.
Those Audi dealers were arrogant entities when Covid was on and have the nerve to charge $7000 dealer delivery. Now they are ringing prior customers with the leading line “my dealer principal asked me to call you to offer a special offer” - as if. The dealer principal wouldn’t know me from a bar of soap.
Q4 etron = id4 more expensive
It is not worth. Better id4 , ceaper, same car