STAR TREK: The Motion Picture (1979) Retrospective / Review (RE-UPLOAD)

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  • Originally published in December 2014. Had to re-edit and re-upload the review to remove a copyright claim. I've adjusted a few images and had to remove the end montage trailer.
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  • @OliverHarper
    @OliverHarper  Před 2 lety +75

    Originally published in December 2014. Had to re-edit and re-upload the review to remove a copyright claim. I've adjusted a few images and had to remove the end montage trailer.

    • @leocmen
      @leocmen Před 2 lety +11

      Perhaps the only Star Trek that honestly portrays the soul of the original series. Perfectly connected to the lore at that moment. In my humble view, a very underrated movie.
      Some execution/production flaws of course, but has all my respect.
      As for Enterprise presentation, what people don't get it is that, unlike any other ship, *Enterprise is a character* and it is hard to explain. Perhaps only Navy members will understand it fully...
      This is a movie that isn't afraid to put older adults in command of a ship, as it has to be _( Not Bevelry Hills 90210 in space)_

    • @theguardianoftruth3533
      @theguardianoftruth3533 Před 2 lety +7

      Oliver, I'd highly recommend you upload your videos to other video sharing sites like Bitchute, Brighteon, Daily Motion, as well as Rumble. That way you'll have other options in case CZcams or any third party entities keep giving you grief about any "copyright issues."
      Wow! A copyright issue comes up after 7 years. The "Fair Use" law from 1976 should protect you and anyone else from these things.

    • @mabusestestament
      @mabusestestament Před 2 lety +4

      My favorite Star Trek movie. An underrated gem.

    • @darknessviking
      @darknessviking Před 2 lety +1

      lol the weirdo crewmember who turned out to like young people

    • @danielwilliamson6180
      @danielwilliamson6180 Před 2 lety

      I've sent you a FB request.

  • @martincoyle8804
    @martincoyle8804 Před 2 lety +124

    I get why people dislike it, but I really think it’s very underrated. Star Trek was always open to some intelligent sci-fi and is more than just the generic space action of the Abrams era.

    • @capitalcitygoofball1987
      @capitalcitygoofball1987 Před 2 lety +4

      I agree about the Abrams era, but I wish TMP could have had the pacing of maybe ST3. It had big ideas, but how many times have you chapter skipped over the Enterprise flyby and the endless staring out viewscreens?

    • @MajorVanBloodnok
      @MajorVanBloodnok Před 2 lety +20

      @@capitalcitygoofball1987 that’s part of it’s greatness. Goldsmith’s majestic score, and the beautiful model is like a poem to the enterprise and the romance of humanity’s progress in the future. More a work of art than a traditional movie.

    • @spoonhanz
      @spoonhanz Před 2 lety +5

      My second favourite tos movie

    • @trekkiedave7910
      @trekkiedave7910 Před 2 lety +5

      @@spoonhanz
      Same! This film stands out - more cinematic than television - the only Star Trek film creator Gene Roddenberry had creative control of - directed by a Hollywood legend - scored by a Hollywood legend - special effects by 2 Hollywood legends
      A film more like 2001 in tone and thematic scope than Star Wars
      This is an Epic true science fiction Star Trek tale the likes of which we will never see again
      For me, my 2nd favourite Star Trek film behind only Wrath
      The practical 70’s special effects more than stand up today - it’s a classic!

    • @capitalcitygoofball1987
      @capitalcitygoofball1987 Před 2 lety +2

      @@MajorVanBloodnok I get what you're saying, and it's not that I disagree but it still boils down to a really boring movie with pacing issues that would give most editors a stroke. And yeah, Trekkies loved the model flyby but my parents were falling asleep by that point. I'll take it any day over the Bad Reboot crap though. Out there somewhere is a perfect ST movie made on a reasonable budget. A movie that explores big ideas, has great character moments, has nice action set pieces without it being "a dude in a big ship out for revenge for reasons". Picard and STD show that big production sets and great FX are possible to to almost any degree. They also show Hollywood can't write for shit anymore. Picard sucked me in with great production values, and by the end I'd given up on Star Trek.

  • @snappycattimesten
    @snappycattimesten Před 2 lety +31

    A copyright claim 6 years later? Good of you to re-edit rather than remove. Thanks!

  • @MasterJediDude
    @MasterJediDude Před 2 lety +23

    I highly recommend watching the Director’s Cut, because it does fix some of the problems with the film and looks gorgeous. Many of the audio issues are corrected, plus they replace the computer voices and background bridge sounds. It’s one of my guilty pleasures and I just love the Klingon sequence and music. We just needed more battle scenes and fewer “staring/reaction” scenes from the crew. I love this film and often put it in late at night when I’m painting or relaxing. Great stuff!

    • @PMelling2293
      @PMelling2293 Před 2 lety +2

      The 4K remaster of the Director’s Edition (made by the original team) is now on Paramount+ !

  • @eugenemorrisiv5171
    @eugenemorrisiv5171 Před 2 lety +29

    I will always have a soft spot in my heart for this film

  • @patrickthomas8890
    @patrickthomas8890 Před 2 lety +27

    Oddly my absolute favorite Star Trek. The more cerebral tone/problem solving to face a very puzzling threat really captured what I loved about TOS for me. It’s relaxing to watch

    • @jonathanclarke4529
      @jonathanclarke4529 Před 2 lety +7

      All the other ST films are a bit of a letdown to me after this. I just don't get it. WOK is good but not as magnificent as this

    • @AlanCanon2222
      @AlanCanon2222 Před 2 lety +5

      Agreed. I never got to see whole episodes of TOS in reruns because we were always in church during the Sunday morning timeslot, so TMP was the first time I got to see a full Star Trek story. At the same time I was reading Arthur C. Clarke.... I love TMP in all its slow-burn grandeur.

    • @patrickthomas8890
      @patrickthomas8890 Před 2 lety +2

      @@jonathanclarke4529 Totally agree. I so wish they kept going this route

  • @JohnBigboot
    @JohnBigboot Před 2 lety +19

    It does have the most sci-fi story of the movies though, beautifully linked to Spock's own search for his own place and meaning. After this, most ST stories were just revenge or time travel, over and over again. The Motion Picture was easily the boldest in almost every way.

  • @bradleyconrad678
    @bradleyconrad678 Před rokem +7

    The long fly-by sequence often gets derided as “effects porn” and “filler”; but deriding it that way ignores its narrative importance. The sequence establishes the Enterprise as large and grand - the pinnacle of human technological achievement. This has to be set up in order to emphasize the Enterprise’s dealing in the face of V’Ger’s size and technology. The “awe inducing” fly-by is not trivial, but rather integral to the scope of the story.
    I love this film and think it rather tightly reflects the more “hard” sci-fi that the original series at least hinted at, if not achieved. Plus I saw it in the theatre as a kid (age 9) and was transfixed by it, already being a Star Trek fan.

  • @sloancostella2772
    @sloancostella2772 Před 2 lety +19

    I love this movie! And I think those who call THIS movie "boring" or "slow" are just drongos who can't get enough guns, car chases and explosions

    • @rgerber
      @rgerber Před rokem +1

      The movie is more like an Opera or a Stage Play. Everything is big and BIGGER. I absolutely love it and i love the slow pace.... it's so suspenseful. Probably the best ST movie for me (i also love ST-V ...hmm)

    • @IanFindly-iv1nl
      @IanFindly-iv1nl Před 5 měsíci

      LOL! THERE ya go! Just tell it like it is! In fact, such "drongos" are the reasons we have all these big, dumb, action "blockbusters" with goons like Vin Diesel and The Rock and Schwarzenegar and so on.

  • @Eraser18574
    @Eraser18574 Před 2 lety +10

    I always loved this movie! It’s so trippy and moody. I think it has one of the best atmospheres of a Star Trek film.

    • @joe9739
      @joe9739 Před rokem

      Easily. Most Trek movies are more Action/Adventure, but TMP is like 'High Concept Sci-Fi' and in a league of its own.

  • @pheonix5597
    @pheonix5597 Před 2 lety +8

    "Booring"? .. . depends WHAT you consider EXCITING in the first place. Now personally I happen to find ohhhh guns, stunts, car chases, crashes, and explosions pretty dull myself, so I don't miss THAT shit one bit when watching THIS film.

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 Před 2 lety +61

    I still get a kick put of Dr. McCoy's disco civilian outfit.

    • @trhansen3244
      @trhansen3244 Před 2 lety +1

      Disco? I was a Disco King and no one dressed like that. Except a few Democrats. And he was no Democrat.

    • @bigneon_glitter
      @bigneon_glitter Před 2 lety +6

      McCoy's medallion! Even the 23rd century had a Disco decade.

    • @EyeInTheSky982
      @EyeInTheSky982 Před 2 lety +4

      The missing Bee Gee??? 🤔🤔🤔😂😂😂😂😂

    • @guydavies1342
      @guydavies1342 Před 2 lety +6

      Spock spending his time purging his emotions, Kirk deflated and listless as an Admiral and McCoy just chugging Romulan Ale and busting moves on the dance floor. He should have kept the beard though.

    • @KEVMAN7987
      @KEVMAN7987 Před 2 lety +3

      It *is* the 70s after all (the 2270s, but still).

  • @jayhawks4life354
    @jayhawks4life354 Před 2 lety +39

    Surprised you didn't mention "Ilia's Theme" when talking about the soundtrack. I think it's a beautiful love theme that has stood the test of time.

    • @jimd385
      @jimd385 Před 2 lety +1

      One of my very favourite tunes, I often listen to it.

    • @henrik5804
      @henrik5804 Před 2 lety +2

      Agree! I hold Jerry Goldsmith to one of the most profound composers.

    • @charly03090309
      @charly03090309 Před 2 lety +2

      Thats why he pretty much adapted it for the Star Trek Voyager theme

    • @Wolvie181
      @Wolvie181 Před 2 lety +2

      I love it as well.

    • @andytol1976
      @andytol1976 Před 2 lety +3

      Always liked that piece, mainly because of a bit of personal intellectual gymnastics.
      The music represents at least in part, the probe V'ger sends to help communicate; a physical connection to the Enterprise and its crew. Ilia's Theme is the sound of wanting to touch the face of "God". Like Decker alludes to in the climax. That and the flying starfield effect to top it off...

  • @SewerRatie
    @SewerRatie Před 2 lety +30

    A very timely re-upload as it was just announced the 'directors edition' is getting remastered in 4K.

    • @mabusestestament
      @mabusestestament Před 2 lety +3

      I prefer the theatrical cut.

    • @pennygadget7328
      @pennygadget7328 Před 2 lety +3

      @@mabusestestament ... congrats?

    • @michiganjack1337
      @michiganjack1337 Před 2 lety +1

      Oh it is?! I had not heard. 🖖🗽

    • @bonghunezhou5051
      @bonghunezhou5051 Před 2 lety

      Hm, the "4K" version is to be the theatrical version (lamented by Robert Wise as a "rough cut") ?

    • @mabusestestament
      @mabusestestament Před 2 lety +3

      @Penny Gadget
      Thanks Penny. You wouldn't know that, but it actually happens to be my birthday (not kidding) 👍

  • @markknight7780
    @markknight7780 Před 2 lety +17

    I’m sorry to nitpick, but Decker was not demoted twice. He was told by Kirk he’d have to “double as science officer,” after the Vulcan science officer died in the transporter. He gladly gave up the post to Spock, but was still technically the Executive Officer.

    • @bonghunezhou5051
      @bonghunezhou5051 Před 2 lety +2

      So true! In the relevant part of the film, it is made clear that Spock was re-instated as "science officer" - not as it and first officer ("XO"). Thus, Will Decker was, for this mission/film, the undisputed 'second in command' to an overambitious Admiral Kirk.

  • @keiththorpe9571
    @keiththorpe9571 Před 2 lety +40

    The Klingons fire upon the cloud of energy because...Klingons.

    • @RideAcrossTheRiver
      @RideAcrossTheRiver Před 2 lety +5

      "Would you pleeeease ... _SIT DOWN."_

    • @TensileStrength
      @TensileStrength Před 2 lety +4

      Klingon to his captain: "I've got good news and bad news. The bad news is that the cloud is technology so advanced that fighting it will be certain death. The good news is that the cloud is technology so advanced that fighting it will be certain death."

    • @redpillnibbler4423
      @redpillnibbler4423 Před 2 lety +1

      They died with honour and dumbassery intact.

    • @redpillnibbler4423
      @redpillnibbler4423 Před 2 lety +2

      @@TensileStrength
      FIRE !!!

    • @arfanmedni7294
      @arfanmedni7294 Před 2 lety +2

      @@redpillnibbler4423 kapla!

  • @corvus1970
    @corvus1970 Před 2 lety +13

    Re: It's a shame Stephen Collins didn't stick around for future TREK films.
    Yeahhhhh. About that...

    • @zacharyjochumsen9677
      @zacharyjochumsen9677 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeh Stephen got in trouble about molesting kids yes he jesus

    • @WhiteChocolate74
      @WhiteChocolate74 Před 2 lety +1

      What? We could've had a Seventh Heaven/Star Trek crossover

  • @ricardocantoral7672
    @ricardocantoral7672 Před 2 lety +26

    The surrealism, the slowness, the conclusion that leaves certain questions unanswered, delightful qualities that are alien to cut and dry, contemporary blockbusters. The atmosphere of TMP is far more intriguing than the other films that feel more like feature length TV episodes by comparison.

    • @markdodson6453
      @markdodson6453 Před 2 lety +3

      One hundred percent agree.

    • @bas6628
      @bas6628 Před 2 lety +3

      You feel like you're going on a epic adventure watching this.

    • @lancebaylis3169
      @lancebaylis3169 Před 2 lety +6

      And yet, at its heart, this also feels so much like Star Trek in a way. Our heroes pondering deep questions about the nature of life. The Enterprise never fires her phasers and only launches one torpedo, at a meteor no less. But that lack of action should not be mistaken for a lack of incident, and the philosophical questions explored here are very much in keeping with what went before and what would come after. Who am I? Where do I belong? Despite what people say I feel like this movie is very in keeping with the spirit of TOS. We don't need to see Admiral Kirk grappling with an alien lizard and getting his tunic torn open for this to feel very much like Star Trek.

    • @markdodson6453
      @markdodson6453 Před 2 lety +5

      @@lancebaylis3169 Again, completely agree. It just goes to show how The Wrath of Khan was both the best and worst thing to happen to Star Trek. The best because it kept the franchise alive. But the worst, because it made the movies almost and evermore exclusively about the THE BAD SEEKING REVENGE!!!! When that happened, we pretty much lost the introspective, big-idea Trek.

    • @ricardocantoral7672
      @ricardocantoral7672 Před 2 lety +2

      @@markdodson6453 After Star Trek V bombed, Paramount stopped gambling on any Trek stories that didn't involve punching a vengeance crazed villain in the face. Of course I don't mean that Star Trek VI was a dumb action film but it has WoK tropes that the succeeding films clung onto, Starfleet as a military organization and the big bad villain. Also, Wrath of Khan, to date, is still the most profitable Star Trek film ever made. Again, I say profitable. I didn't say it has the highest gross.

  • @chaddelk3605
    @chaddelk3605 Před 2 lety +6

    I find that the new scenes added to Star Trek: The Motion Picture in the director's cut make the film more enjoyable for me. The visual of the nacelle in Kirk's quarters and the new CGI version of Kirk, Spock, McCoy, and Decker exiting the saucer section of the Enterprise while inside V'Ger.

  • @UberBman
    @UberBman Před 2 lety +4

    You nailed my thoughts to this film. I’ve always found it relaxing and calming. And the score along with the visual effects are amazing.

  • @leocmen
    @leocmen Před 2 lety +31

    Perhaps the only Star Trek that honestly portrays the soul of the original series. Perfectly connected to the lore at that moment. In my humble view, a very underrated movie.
    Some execution/production flaws, of course, but has all my respect.
    As for Enterprise presentation, what people don't get it is that, unlike any other ship, *Enterprise is a character* and it is hard to explain... Perhaps only the Navy members will understand it completely...
    a movie that isn't afraid to put older adults in command of a ship, as it has to be.

    • @tonywilliams6428
      @tonywilliams6428 Před 2 lety +4

      I agree w/you %110 that no other film in the entire theatrical saga plays and feels more like the original series. Where it fails IMO is that the characters don't feel right; particularly Kirk. But in total I think it's the most underrated film in the original series.

  • @KEVMAN7987
    @KEVMAN7987 Před 2 lety +41

    The Enterprise reveal isn't nearly long enough.

    • @23bobjr
      @23bobjr Před 2 lety

      it was planned to be longer. It was designed that way to showcase just how far special effects had come by the end of the 70's

    • @Reelglad
      @Reelglad Před 2 lety

      @@23bobjr Well, dude did say it took so long due to the director needing a boatload of camera lenses and set ups to be able to get close enough to the model as it was supposed to be larger!

    • @leonardpriestley6822
      @leonardpriestley6822 Před 2 lety +1

      When it finally cuts back to Kirk and Scotty, Kirk almost seems amused at how long the sequence went on for.

    • @rgerber
      @rgerber Před rokem +1

      @@leonardpriestley6822 I think the whole scene feels set up flying around the Enterprise for 5 minutes to just end up with Kirk saying "Thank you Mr Scott" "Aye Sir".
      I always laugh at it but it LOVE the whole flyover it's just the best you can have about Star Trek. It's the f* Enterprise man. Give her some praise!!!

  • @lancebaylis3169
    @lancebaylis3169 Před 2 lety +2

    I think what I love about it is (channeling Richard Donner) its verisimilitude.
    Star Trek: The Motion Picture takes our heroes and setting from the TV show, but as the first post-moon landing piece of Trek it takes more cues from what had been learned in the decade since the series went off the air. Space feels big in this movie, travel times are long even with faster-than-light travel, the space walk sequences feel real in a way I don't reckon the original Star Trek could have done, and of course NASA is mentioned and the antagonist is literally a piece of America's old space program. One never feels here like they are cutting corners or doing anything fantastical, because it's all shot with a context of reality surrounding every moment and concept, from the infamous shuttle ride to the Enterprise all the way through, everything is completely believable.
    Good timing on the upload too, with the 4k edition only recently announced.

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 Před 2 lety +9

    3:25, the man who won 2 Oscars for his work on West Side Story and The Sound Of Music gave us Star Trek The Motion Picture.

    • @AlanCanon2222
      @AlanCanon2222 Před 2 lety +2

      After making The Day the Earth Stood Still and The Andromeda Strain, too, two of the most sincere efforts in science fiction of their respective eras. Robert Wise never got the worship that people like Kubrick did. He just kept cranking out solid movies one after the other. The Haunting, Run Silent, Run Deep, The Set-Up, The Body Snatcher, he rarely missed.

    • @ricardocantoral7672
      @ricardocantoral7672 Před 2 lety

      @@AlanCanon2222 Wise really wasn't in Kubrick's league. He was a great craftsman like John Frankenheimer or Raoul Walsh.

  • @RetrofanFilms
    @RetrofanFilms Před 2 lety +5

    At the time I'm writing this, both versions of this are still up and running. I played them both simultaneously to see what was added/removed. I can see why you did the re-upload of this.
    It's still a great retrospective. I hope you'll get to doing one for Star Trek IV soon.

  • @lukeskywalker6809
    @lukeskywalker6809 Před 2 lety +2

    My favorite Star Trek film, and one of the greatest scores of all time.

  • @jeenkzk5919
    @jeenkzk5919 Před 2 lety +4

    One of my favorite Trek films! I grabbed what I thought was TMP laserdisc. When I saw it was the soundtrack on LP, I snatched it up!

  • @4drewk
    @4drewk Před 2 lety +10

    we need a first contact retrospective

    • @redpillnibbler4423
      @redpillnibbler4423 Před 2 lety +1

      I loved First Contact,it’s strangely overlooked,it’s a GREAT film - Equal favourite with TMP and Khan.

    • @WhiteChocolate74
      @WhiteChocolate74 Před 2 lety

      I saw it on TV about a year ago and really enjoyed it. Because of Red Letter Media the TNG films are overhated

  • @deadscenedotcom
    @deadscenedotcom Před 2 lety +3

    Loved this as a kid and still love it.

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 Před 2 lety +4

    5:28, RIP, Persis Khambata.

  • @joseph7988
    @joseph7988 Před 2 lety +7

    That 3 CD soundtrack is no longer available, and now fetches much more than $35 on ebay.

  • @Ennisburger
    @Ennisburger Před měsícem +1

    Great film. I always watch it when i want to chill out and get cozy. Great hangover movie.

  • @RaikenXion
    @RaikenXion Před 2 lety +27

    This was a really good Star Trek Film, sure there wasn't really any action but instead alot of standing around talking and looking out of view-screens; but i think TMP was trying to be abit more 2001: Space Odyssey. The overall idea of Vger i found very intriguing, very much "Science Fiction" it's a shame alot of Trekkies right this movie off.

    • @redpillnibbler4423
      @redpillnibbler4423 Před 2 lety +3

      Definitely took its cue from 2001.

    • @RaikenXion
      @RaikenXion Před 2 lety +3

      @@redpillnibbler4423 It did you can tell it was going for that kind of style and the overall idea is pure science fiction, which has always been a huge element of "Star Trek". This is why i don't get why Trekkies don't give this movie any credit.
      Trekkies owe alot to TMP, TNG takes it theme music from this Film. The refit Enterprise was first introduced in this Film. The familiar Klingon designs with the long hair, head crest and armor was first introduced in this Film.
      I would have said the Borg too but that never became the case in the end, which is a shame really because Vger being the origin for the Borg assimilating "carbon-based lifeforms" fits perfectly.

    • @thunderwarrior1759
      @thunderwarrior1759 Před 2 lety +2

      @@redpillnibbler4423 it’s the only thinking man’s Star Trek movie to date,especially as now we get double J’s efforts. This is in my opinion just a couple of steps behind 2001. At the moment i can’t think of many more,interstellar being one

    • @redpillnibbler4423
      @redpillnibbler4423 Před 2 lety

      @@RaikenXion
      It seems to have gained a lot more respect over the years especially as these kind of conceptual movies have largely been pushed aside for more fast paced action style sci fi (JJ Abrams hint hint)
      I see what you mean about the Borg,but Vgers intent was to find its creator while the Borgs intent is quite different.
      The story of course is taken from the original series episode ‘The changeling’.Basically Vger is a reimagining of Nomad.

    • @redpillnibbler4423
      @redpillnibbler4423 Před 2 lety +4

      @@thunderwarrior1759
      Film makers have missed a trick by not making another conceptual Star Trek movie.
      There are a few sci fi movies with a similar tone to The Motion Picture,I’d even put Alien in the same vein - even though the premise is different both films tap heavily into the intrigue aspect and slow build-up rather than relying on action which (in my opinion) is what makes for great science fiction. Just off the top of my head Sunshine is another example.
      What do you think?

  • @happiaxxident
    @happiaxxident Před 5 měsíci +1

    I adore this movie. One of my favorite ways to experience it, is with my eyes closed and let my imagination wander and craft visuals to the soundtrack and dialogue.

  • @magicknight8412
    @magicknight8412 Před 2 lety +2

    I have always enjoyed it, mainly due to the music and look of it. Funnily enough i have watched it on a Sunday afternoon more than any other time :)

  • @xanchoq7755
    @xanchoq7755 Před 2 lety +6

    Don't care what ya say, I saw this when I was a kid, and mind was blown, sure it was slow, but suspense is Trek 1 , and can't be rushed... its more a afternoon monster movie then a trek film though to be fair.

  • @williamjackson6705
    @williamjackson6705 Před 2 lety +1

    Could not agree more with your critique. And Persis Khambatta was a true beauty.

  • @UntitledShowwithBobandPat

    I didn't like this Star Trak movie as a kid, but now as an adult it's one of my favorites.

  • @theoldenfield4106
    @theoldenfield4106 Před rokem +3

    Just a heads-up:
    A few months ago, Paramount released a new 4K-remaster of this film along with a new version of The Director's Cut, with the new shots in that version redone again.

  • @officespace7777
    @officespace7777 Před 2 lety +4

    I loved the motion picture.💕
    As a kid I was really into the visuals.
    I could feel the discomfort of the crew as they were entering the cloud.
    And when the tractor beam pulled them into the ship, and the enterprise was trapped. I was like "what are they gonna do? They can't phaser or torpedo their way out."
    I also felt a sense of terror when all they had was a probe of a dead crew member to talk to.
    I dunno. These are the feelings of an 11 year old kid.
    But I thought the motion picture had a great psychological story to it.

  • @SaturnCanuck
    @SaturnCanuck Před 2 lety +1

    Opened December 7, 1979. I know, it was my birthday.
    The issue with the ballooning budget was not only the failed effects that had to be reshot but, Paramount added the cost of the development of Star Trek Phase II into the movie's budget. As the two premier of the show -- "In Thy Image" -- became TMP, the funds had to be allocated somewhere.
    I agree it does look good.

  • @JohnAnderson-jy2js
    @JohnAnderson-jy2js Před rokem +1

    Decker and Captain Kirk's conflict with Decker feeling resentful over his temporarily demotion was a subplot that Robert Wise took from his movie run silent Run Deep a movie that starred Clark Gable and Burt Lancaster

  • @ukmediawarrior
    @ukmediawarrior Před 2 lety +12

    Decker wasn't demoted twice, lol. Kirk tells him he is taking command and Decker has been demoted temporarily to XO and as the science officer died in the transporter he needs to do double duty as the ships Science Chief too. When Spock comes aboard Decker gives up the science officer gig, probably with a huge sigh of relief, but is still the ships XO and second in command.

    • @scottessery100
      @scottessery100 Před 2 lety

      Sort of demoted though and shouldn’t Someone get in trouble for killing the science officer

    • @ukmediawarrior
      @ukmediawarrior Před 2 lety

      @@scottessery100 Oh I am sure someone got into trouble for killing two Starfleet officers. Enquires etc, etc, the same way as we do things when, for example, a military helicopter crashes. And no, not really demoted at all, or at least not twice as Oliver suggests. I mean, lets say you were the XO of a navy ship and the helmsman phones in sick and you don't have another helmsman available until you get to port to pick one up, so you have to steer the ship and be the second in command. Then, out of nowhere, another helmsman is found in the crew and he takes over steering .... does that demote you?

    • @kommissar.murphy
      @kommissar.murphy Před 2 lety

      on paper it might not be a demotion, but how does it look getting shoved aside by a second swinging dick from the old Enterprise?

    • @ricardocantoral7672
      @ricardocantoral7672 Před 2 lety +2

      @@kommissar.murphy He was demoted once from Captain to Commander. After that, he doubled as Commander and Science Officer. When Spock arrived, he was relieved of his Science Officer duty. That is not a second demotion.

    • @daverobson3084
      @daverobson3084 Před 2 lety +2

      He was also still kind of a whiny bitch. I get he was miffed at being bumped ( temporarily ) as captain of the Enterprise, but, he should have swallowed his pride and been the best XO he could be, instead of pushing back on Kirk at pretty much every turn. Sure, Kirk wasn't being great, but neither was Decker. He was acting alike a petulant child who had his favorite toy taken away before a family trip, and was determined to make the rest of the family as miserable as he was throughout the journey. Except, in this instance, the lives of billions relied on the success of the family trip.

  • @josephde-haan1074
    @josephde-haan1074 Před 2 lety +9

    I really like this film. I guess it suits a Pink Flyd, Tangerine Dream fan.

  • @thegood9
    @thegood9 Před 2 lety +1

    Saw this live in the theater the first weekend of its release. Seeing NCC-1701 as the crew takes the shuttle to board/inspect it for the very first time is one of the most majestic sequences, along with Goldsmith's fantastic score during it, of cinematic history. It was an emotional moment given everything that meant to all those on the screen and to all the viewers and fans.
    The transporter malfunction scene was one of the most talked about and memorable scenes, as well.

  • @Night360
    @Night360 Před měsícem +1

    I love this movie and the 4K Director's Cut release coupled with a good home theater system is nothing short of amazing! Its looks and sounds better than it ever has.

  • @chrisgorton4577
    @chrisgorton4577 Před měsícem +1

    One of my favorite episodes is The Cormbomite Maneuver. Look at the ending of that episode. It builds in intensity throughout, and at the end......then? It is a very satisfying episode. Need I say more?

  • @scrappyny7432
    @scrappyny7432 Před 2 lety +2

    I was probably about 5 or 6 when this came out on cable. Loved the movie then and still do. Even though many dont like it there is something about it that draws me to it.

  • @paulicke3483
    @paulicke3483 Před 2 lety +3

    What I like about the motion picture is that the villain is totally different instead of having a mad man all the time apart from voyage home

  • @daverobson3084
    @daverobson3084 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Decker was not " demoted again" when Spock arrived.
    He had been pulling double duty as the ships executive officer AND the ships chief science officer.
    When Spock arrived he was able to stop performing the chief science officer role and concentrate on being the executive officer.

  • @trutwijd
    @trutwijd Před 2 lety

    Ah my first VHS tape that was "mine". Watched over and over and over. The music is its own character in this movie. Love this trek, all the original cast movies are gems (ok maybe not 5 so much) and I have very fond memories of my dad taking me to see each one in theater. Thanks for the re-upload, bummer it was striked.

  • @Hibernicus1968
    @Hibernicus1968 Před 2 lety +1

    One correction: when Spock returns, Decker is not really demoted, he merely stops performing double duty as executive officer _and_ science officer. Spock takes over as science officer, but Decker remains as XO. If anyone is getting demoted here, it's Spock. After all, during the series Spock was second in command as well as science officer, and whenever Kirk was unable to command for whatever reason, Spock was in charge. But in this movie, Decker, not Spock is in the executive officer postion, and if Kirk were incapacitated, Spock would then find himself serving under this comparatively inexperienced officer, instead of stepping into the command role the way he would had done during Kirk's original five-year mission.

  • @grid212
    @grid212 Před 2 lety +1

    I think this is one of my favourite Star Trek movies. It feels otherworldly and interesting to learn the parallels with 2001 as I always relate it to that movie. It’s a great watch when you want some sci-if that isn’t over burdened with the rest of the franchise. Also it always feels like an indulgence to watch a film this long, so generally only gets an outing at Christmas. Another great review.

  • @dustinparker9456
    @dustinparker9456 Před 2 lety +8

    I like this movie. I actually prefer the directors cut because we actually see the vger ship. The beauty shots of the enterprise. Decker and Ilea are early versions of Riley and Troi.

    • @bas6628
      @bas6628 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes the director's cut is better. The new effects are added seamlessly and visually makes more sense of the scale of v'ger. They didn't overdo it like they did with the starwars special editions

    • @rgerber
      @rgerber Před 2 lety

      Lt. Ilia/ V'ger was to become the ships counselor instead of Deanna Troi.
      That would have been way more interesting (in TNG)

  • @markequinox
    @markequinox Před měsícem +2

    Whatever you think of this movie, it has the most unbelievable score.

  • @erictuxen
    @erictuxen Před 2 lety +1

    The defocused split plane issue you mention is not a mistake but a creative choice using a split diopter. It is a lens filter that allows for both a deep and shallow focus in the frame. The giveaway is the blurry space in between. It’s definitely a major a distraction that screams mistake but in this case it was a deliberate creative choice.

    • @MrPornoforpandas
      @MrPornoforpandas Před 2 lety

      Precisely. I used one back in the 90s to frame for extreme depth in foreground and background but it looks very artificial. The only popular director who used it frequently from the 80s onwards was Brian de Palma.

  • @Calculon1712
    @Calculon1712 Před 2 lety +3

    I read the Directors Edition is getting a 4K version which will air on Paramount+ next year and hopefully get a disc release. The standard version of the film is been released on 4K blu ray in September

  • @teigannyman196
    @teigannyman196 Před 2 lety +9

    The Voyage Home retrospective, please!

  • @willdecker4630
    @willdecker4630 Před 2 lety +2

    This is the only Star Trek film that i would call "Proper Space" sci fi flim of all the Trek films & thats why it my fev.

  • @blazerocker1734
    @blazerocker1734 Před 2 lety +1

    I caught the tail end of the extended cut on ABC in 1983. Being 5 years old at the time the visuals just about blew me away but they weren't enough to make me a trekkie/trekker at the time. That would happen a few years later with the TV airing of Wrath of Khan and finally the Next Gen series.

  • @cmkwan59
    @cmkwan59 Před 2 lety +1

    I will happily pay for the ticket if can see this great movie in big screen cinema, again and again.

  • @DANRYX
    @DANRYX Před 2 lety +1

    The most alien and sci fi sounding soundtrack, the most cerebral and most unique film in the franchise. The theme as well of showing no matter how powerful you may be, understanding yourself and your purpose is more important than anything else.

  • @StorytellerStudios
    @StorytellerStudios Před 2 lety

    Another great review. Oliver nails it every time!

  • @JeffreyDeCristofaro
    @JeffreyDeCristofaro Před 2 lety +1

    I was actually shocked to rewatch this film and see that it's better than it was during its initial release. I've seen both versions and, well, while this film ain't WRATH OF KAHN, THE VOYAGE HOME or FIRST CONTACT, it's still a lot better than the J.J. Abrams alternate universe prequels. And I absolutely LOVE that music - Jerry Goldsmith is one of the greats!!!

  • @iancano
    @iancano Před 2 lety

    I love the line at 12:55. "I love the look of the Enterprise going to warp speed. The added effect looks like the ship has gone to a dimension dominated by disco!"

    • @DrQuagmire1
      @DrQuagmire1 Před 2 lety +1

      and this is before Industrial Light-&-Magic (ILM) designed the visual effects for the later sequels. But then again, since the legendary John Dykstra (who i'm a huge fan of) is one of the original founders of ILM, one could argue that ILM worked on the film that started it all.

  • @whitleybayman123
    @whitleybayman123 Před 2 lety

    As I said last upload, thankyou Oliver for giving my all time favourite Trek movie a fair Retro. The truest to Genes vision and with Superman The movie, my two movies I love. The directors cut is getting an HD upgrade by the internet chatter....hope thats true, which is the best version. But when I saw this movie after growing up after watching the series with my dad in the 70s in re runs, seeing the refitted Enterprise on screen for the first time like Kirk.....wow. We shared his experience. The score also... My dad and I had a massive smile on our faces drving back home, talking about the movie and never did we mention it was slow, we just loved it. A great memory between my dad and I. Still the best warp effects of all of the movies. The scene with Spock and Kirk in sick bay where Spock grabs his friends hand and talks about the human feeling and connection is what Trek is all about Keep up your great work Oliver.

  • @AlanCanon2222
    @AlanCanon2222 Před 2 lety +1

    Always nice to see TMP get some love.

  • @andrewcampbell394
    @andrewcampbell394 Před rokem +1

    The shots you think are out of focus are intentional split diopter lens shots. using a special lens where the camera can focus on different things in the foreground and background.

  • @PhilBesch
    @PhilBesch Před 11 měsíci +2

    I had a little downtime so I decided to rewatch this review. It's a great review however, now I realize he was off on a few crucial details. One, Kirk wasn't in command of Enterprise in 2 years, not 5. Decker wasn't demoted to science officer, but to commander and taken on the responsibilities of the science officer. And third at the time of this review, the movie was more than 40 years old, not 35.

  • @Hewylewis
    @Hewylewis Před 2 lety +3

    Still keeping my fingers crossed for King Kong '76.

    • @trhansen3244
      @trhansen3244 Před 2 lety

      I have the Shout Factory blu ray of that. I have to admit I was a little disappointed. It was fun but of all the Kong movies I've seen so far that is my least favorite.

    • @Hewylewis
      @Hewylewis Před 2 lety

      @@trhansen3244 King Kong Lives is worse, trust me.

  • @DonDonP1
    @DonDonP1 Před 2 lety

    Hello, Oli. Great re-editing! I'm looking forward to the 4K "Director's Edition" of "Star Trek: The Motion Picture." Can't wait till next year on Paramount+! Thank you for sharing. Live long and prosper, my friend.

  • @dragondaveltd1992
    @dragondaveltd1992 Před rokem +1

    There is the newly improved Director's Editon of Star Trek: The Motion Picture has recently released last year on Blu-Ray and 4K Ultra with newly remastered film in HD and new CG effects

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 Před 2 lety +2

    13:40, I liked the opening! It was reused for the TV series, The Next Generation.

  • @hugoponders
    @hugoponders Před 2 lety +2

    I've always enjoyed this film. It was perhaps my first encounter with the franchise, and so I didn't expect anything in particular of it, and certainly never thought it needed a faster pace. Later installments mostly seemed to devolve into extended television episodes. And I also quite like the retro-futurism of the sets and costumes; it isn't as though modern aesthetics are the end-game - they're just another data point. There's a certain maturity to the movie that I think often gets misunderstood. It's probably the most timeless of all of them.

  • @_Too_Late
    @_Too_Late Před 2 lety +1

    To be enjoyed at 2AM stoned

  • @leannerose6181
    @leannerose6181 Před 2 lety +2

    Could you please do a retrospective of Young Sherlock Holmes? It's one of my favorite movies,and one not a lot of people talk about,or know that Chris Colombus wrote

  • @kellinwinslow1988
    @kellinwinslow1988 Před 2 lety +1

    The Critical Drinker and Rob Myer Burnet did a great stream about this film awhile ago. For all it's flaws, it's still far better than anything that Bad Robot or that chowder head Kurtzman has done in the last 12 years. Just thinking about the new garbage makes me feel like Rich Evans from Redlettermedia when Mike makes him watch the new stuff.
    Here's a true story people might find interesting. My 15 year old cousin,Drew,had only ever seen the new Trek and wanted to see the older stuff to compare. We started with original episodes that tied into the first six films. Stuff like The Doomsday Machine, Journey to Bable, Space Seed, ECT. Then we started with the first film,the Directors Cut of course. I thought he would be bored and want to skip it but he actually liked it. Yes it was slow,but he loved the Enterprise redesign and he thought the music,by Goldsmith,was great. He also liked the sense of exploring and the fact that there wasn't really a bad guy,unlike the Bad Robot junk where every story is just a revenge plot. The characters were interesting and little bits with Kirk and Spock really made him like it more. After we finished Wrath Of Kahn he wondered why the new Trek,STD and Pucard especially,were so poorly written and thought out.
    The Motion Picture at least tried something that felt like good Trek used to be. Now it's just action shlock. Poorly done shlock at that.

  • @Supreme_Knowledge.
    @Supreme_Knowledge. Před rokem +1

    It’s great movie,Moviegoers expected it to be like Star Wars. It’s Star Trek and it fit what what the original series was. The only thing that brings it down was the drab outfits.

  • @davidmarsh6656
    @davidmarsh6656 Před 2 lety +1

    When I was 10 I watch my first Star Trek movie, Wrath of Khan. And loved it. I then watched this and found it hard going. I can appreciate it more now as an adult but my initial watch still colours my view of the movie.

  • @paulpouliot9355
    @paulpouliot9355 Před rokem

    I truly loved The Motion Picture when it came out in 1979. My mom saw it with me and also liked it; she wasn't even a trekkie. I'm probably one of few people who actually liked the uniforms the cast wore.

  • @philipreid2542
    @philipreid2542 Před 2 lety +1

    The costume design in 'The Matrix' would have looked like this if the characters weren't able to choose other clothes in the Matrix.

  • @thunderwarrior1759
    @thunderwarrior1759 Před 2 lety +2

    I love the Enterprise porn scene that has the fantastic fly by with that gorgeous theme that builds to a perfect climax

  • @jacobturnerart
    @jacobturnerart Před 2 lety

    Really must watch this again. I vaguely remember this from being onTV or VHS in the early 80s, but I was only about 7. I do remember being fascinated but bored after seeing Star Wars, Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon. I still grew up to love Trek, though.

  • @jonathanclarke4529
    @jonathanclarke4529 Před 2 lety +1

    Ratio of my love for this film to most others is 10:1

  • @cdfreester
    @cdfreester Před 2 lety

    Star Trek: TMP is basically a compiliation of 4 TOS episodes: The Changeling, The Immunity Syndrome, Doomsday Machine, and Metamorphosis.

  • @Dlmc85
    @Dlmc85 Před 2 lety +2

    Will you make an update for the newly released Director's edition?

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 Před 2 lety

    Welcome aboard the Star Harper with Captain Oliver.

  • @Panzer4F2
    @Panzer4F2 Před 2 lety +2

    Klingon ships looked great on the big screen

    • @AlanCanon2222
      @AlanCanon2222 Před 2 lety

      They certainly did. There's a fan CGI redux of that opening sequence out there on CZcams and it looks gorgeous. Dude went the distance building the Klingon ships, animating the camera on that dizzying somersault around the bridge, recreating V'Ger, etc. It's damned near perfect.

  • @TF80s
    @TF80s Před 2 lety +1

    This is my favourite Star Trek movie.

  • @markeidemiller3105
    @markeidemiller3105 Před 2 lety

    WHEN OUR LOCAL THEATER HAD THE PREMIER SHOWING OF STAR TREK THE MOTION PICTURE, WE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF HAVING A BOMB SCARE INTERRUPT THE SHOWING. IT CAME RIGHT AFTER SPOCK WAS BROUGHT BACK INTO THE ENTERPRISE. I LOST A LOT OF FRIENDS BECAUSE OF THAT MOVIE, BECAUSE I SOLD THEM TICKETS IN ADVANCE OF THE SHOWING. SEVERAL OF THEM FELL ASLEEP DURING THE CLOUD SEQUENCE.

  • @irreview
    @irreview Před 2 lety

    Great video. Worth watching a second time

  • @anakinchosen
    @anakinchosen Před rokem

    I liked how v’ger comes across as a dangerous threat villain then by the end its a redeemable friendly entity.

  • @ethanhunt202
    @ethanhunt202 Před 2 lety

    It's getting a 4k restoration of the The Director's Edition next year. Was announced at the beginning of the month, but is going to take about 6 to 8 months to do

  • @laranaarana
    @laranaarana Před 2 lety

    I remember watching this movie when I was 17 in Jan. 1980 (I did not want to wait in line) and I felt that it dragged on. I liked the special effects!

  • @georgeharris9873
    @georgeharris9873 Před rokem

    I just pre-ordered ''THE COMPLETE ADVENTURE'' box set containing all 3 versions. Theatrical version,, the 12 minute longer theatrical version and director's edition.

  • @jamespeters2859
    @jamespeters2859 Před 2 lety

    Such a good movie. Wish stuff like this was made these days.
    Love the way the sexy android says ‘’Kirk unit!”

  • @SaigonBrit
    @SaigonBrit Před měsícem

    Correction: Decker is temporarily demoted to Executive Officer with temporary reduction in rank to Commander. When Commander Sonak (Science Officer) is killed by the transporter Kirk says Decker will have to double up as science officer.

  • @DCMarvelMultiverse
    @DCMarvelMultiverse Před 2 lety

    I laughed when I saw the longer version's image. I love this film. Besides the visuals, the best part is McKoy's outfit when he arrives on the ship.

  • @BlackAce-zr2ms
    @BlackAce-zr2ms Před rokem +1

    This film is one that can actually help you relax or is that just me? I still think it's the most beautiful effects wise... I do understand though why it's mostly avoided and ST:II takes the first movie placement. 🖖

  • @TheAdArchive
    @TheAdArchive Před 2 lety +1

    I love this film. I think it’s the best Star Trek film after Wrath of Khan and both couldn’t be more different. The V’ger concept is genius and the ending is faultless. I don’t care it has no action set pieces… it approaches the situation with maturity and I’ve watched it multiple times. A gem of a film that’s unfairly maligned.